• Trump supporters require "deprogramming"

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 20 19:37:32 2024
    Journalist Katie Couric says Trump supporters require "deprogramming"
    and calls them cult members.

    https://x.com/_wake_up_USA/status/1792565625014874309

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue May 21 20:18:06 2024
    On Mon, 20 May 2024, JAB wrote:

    Journalist Katie Couric says Trump supporters require "deprogramming"
    and calls them cult members.

    https://x.com/_wake_up_USA/status/1792565625014874309


    Do you think I would need that? I think this is a very naughty and
    polarizing post! ;)

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  • From Mike Spencer@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Tue May 21 17:59:35 2024
    D <nospam@example.net> writes:

    On Mon, 20 May 2024, JAB wrote:

    Journalist Katie Couric says Trump supporters require "deprogramming"
    and calls them cult members.

    https://x.com/_wake_up_USA/status/1792565625014874309


    Do you think I would need that?

    Yes. Unless you are merely a smug and self-superior troll.

    You appear to be, from some of your posts, a reasonably intelligent
    and well-educated person. Your declared opinion that it would be a
    good thing for TFG to be the US president suggests a critical lacuna
    or disconnect in that intelligence. Even rabid support for some brand
    of libertarianism should not be enough to make stable reasoning
    support a reign in the US by an obviously demented person and a
    congeries of varously gullible, maliciously devious or similarly
    demented followers.

    I think this is a very naughty and polarizing post! ;)

    The smiley suggests that you are a smug and self-superior troll. Hard
    to say for sure.

    --
    Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Tue May 21 15:33:00 2024
    On Tue, 21 May 2024 20:18:06 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Do you think I would need that?

    Many supporters lack the skills to RTFM, and understand what's
    happening.

    Hey, many children like candy, but when taught about health
    consequences, they act differently.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Tue May 21 19:55:15 2024
    On Tue, 21 May 2024 20:18:06 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Do you think I would need that?

    A good video that many of his supporters could not dissect

    15:18 min
    Jon Stewart on Butker, Conservative "Outrage" & The Real Cancel
    Culture | The Daily Show

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwyyttqvE04

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  • From Danart@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 22 05:31:00 2024
    JAB wrote:
    Journalist Katie Couric says Trump supporters require
    "deprogramming"
    and calls them cult members.

    https://x.com/_wake_up_USA/status/1792565625014874309

    I will
    admit I voted for DT because Rodham literally attacked freedom of
    expression during her first run. It affected the creation of the Wii,
    and the V-chip in television sets. The second time around I stood by
    that oath and as a Reggie
    ( I mean Bernie ) fan. I was hooked on Bernie but then he decided to
    stay quiet in NY and fly to see the Pope ( AKA The Emperor from
    "SWars" ) and those lost voters. After an entire lifetime of
    being traumatized from a little kid due to selfish feminist women
    marketing. I could careless who is running.

    Recently we had a female candidate for Democratic. All she did was
    ramble on about the abortion law. Rather then talk about actual
    problems. The candidates that we have clearly is about "Do we
    want to continue Ukraine funding" and nobody is talking about the
    Genocidal Zionist Israeli issue. It is going to be democratic because
    you have to be insane to vote in a person who failed at the simplist
    thing to keep a virus threat out.

    Trump voters only care about the following.

    1) Taxes
    2) Deporting people
    3) Zionist hiding behind the guise of religion in favor of supremacy
    via the murder of innocent Palestinians, Arabic, and Muslims.

    My dad say he is republican but he does not vote. He literally begged
    an officer not to give him a ticket. That is your typical Republican.
    All talk and no vote.

    It is like when Bush II was voted in. Him winning is what caused 9/11
    to occur. No way it would have been so. Even before that Bill ( Hill
    was the real pants ) did nothing to protect the Twin Towers the first
    time. Just sat that and let the press talk Monica


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=665716651#665716651

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Danart on Wed May 22 06:45:51 2024
    On Wed, 22 May 2024 05:31:00 +0000,
    danmin@danminart-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Danart) wrote:

    Rodham literally attacked freedom of expression during
    her first run. It affected the creation of the Wii,
    and the V-chip in television sets.

    Any cites?

    Republicans have traditionally supported Big Brother policies.

    They want to know "who are you."

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Wed May 22 11:51:22 2024
    On Tue, 21 May 2024 20:18:06 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Do you think I would need that?

    What many blue collar supporters have missed is his beliefs, similar
    to Pol Pot's

    Pol Pot: Leader of the Cambodian revolutionary group Khmer Rogue, Pol
    Pot was a communist totalitarian dictator who ordered mass genocide on
    his own people. His regime imprisoned, tortured and destroyed those
    who opposed it.

    https://x.com/timecaptales/status/1793069279526461840

    Look at countries like Iran, China, or Russia...similar behavior is
    present in last thirty years...and before.

    "Can the President Claim Immunity if He Shoots Someone on Fifth
    Avenue?"

    Well Trump has argued he has that "right"

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  • From Danart@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 24 04:51:12 2024


    Any cites?

    They want to know "who are you."
    JAB wrote:


    I am not going to back log into the bs she said during the Obama v.
    Hillary elections. But the flat fact it was all the rage to censor
    media and "Videogames" was on the top of that list. Which
    made a big back-lash against voters. I would not vote on her and made
    that pledge.

    Another big thing is when morons would not STFU about "She is
    going to win" even before the Hill v. Bernie v. Trump came into
    light. Too much trauma growing up. No minor ( or any student ) should
    have to hear any marketing or let alone sign a contract when they are
    14 years old. Further more in college we had to read about nothing but abortion, abortion, abortion, and vajayjay abuse. No wonder why ladies
    took our harassment cases on their family members when they all went
    back home from college.

    Republicans did not start the anti-privacy it was Hill and Bill in
    office. With Bush ( who was automatically bad news )
    and "Afghanistan and Iraq" signing the horrid
    "Patriot Act" which violated rights.

    The right to privacy is a conservative right because these acts
    being passed forces government spending on jobs that was not there
    before nore is needed. How much money did Hill+Bill and Bush burnt on
    violating peoples privacy using fear as a means to ends?



    Republicans have traditionally supported Big Brother policies.



    Republicans falls into many categories and spying is not one of them.

    That was started during the Regan era via "Star Wars" and
    then the Hill and Bill era.

    Republican is just the central-banking party with ideas from the Whig
    party using the name "Republican" in order to brainwash
    people into thinking it has anything to do with Democrat.

    The original party was called Democrat Republic. However they dropped
    the name. Later on when the Whig party failed they decided to use the
    term Republic in order to win over people. Later on "Carpet
    Baggers" brought in the "Southern Democrats" into the
    Party.

    Republicans hide behind Religion and Not spending money. But that just
    means paying bills and discrimination.


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=665716651#665716651

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Danart on Fri May 24 06:10:38 2024
    On Fri, 24 May 2024 04:51:12 +0000,
    danmin@danminart-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Danart) wrote:

    The right to privacy is a conservative right

    AT&T Helped U.S. Spy on Internet on a Vast Scale
    ...
    ...
    The N.S.A.'s top-secret budget in 2013 for the AT&T partnership was
    more than twice that of the next-largest such program, according to
    the documents. The company installed surveillance equipment in at
    least 17 of its Internet hubs on American soil, far more than its
    similarly sized competitor, Verizon. And its engineers were the first
    to try out new surveillance technologies invented by the eavesdropping
    agency.
    ...
    ...
    After The Times disclosed the Bush administration's warrantless
    wiretapping program in December 2005, plaintiffs began trying to sue
    AT&T and the N.S.A. In a 2006 lawsuit, a retired AT&T technician named
    Mark Klein claimed that three years earlier, he had seen a secret room
    in a company building in San Francisco where the N.S.A. had installed equipment.
    ...
    ...
    After Congress passed a 2008 law legalizing the Bush program and
    immunizing the telecom companies for their cooperation with it, that
    lawsuit was thrown out. But the newly disclosed documents show that
    AT&T has provided access to peering traffic from other companies'
    networks.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/16/us/politics/att-helped-nsa-spy-on-an-array-of-internet-traffic.html

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Mike Spencer on Fri May 24 15:17:47 2024
    On Tue, 21 May 2024, Mike Spencer wrote:


    D <nospam@example.net> writes:

    On Mon, 20 May 2024, JAB wrote:

    Journalist Katie Couric says Trump supporters require "deprogramming"
    and calls them cult members.

    https://x.com/_wake_up_USA/status/1792565625014874309


    Do you think I would need that?

    Yes. Unless you are merely a smug and self-superior troll.

    You appear to be, from some of your posts, a reasonably intelligent
    and well-educated person. Your declared opinion that it would be a
    good thing for TFG to be the US president suggests a critical lacuna
    or disconnect in that intelligence. Even rabid support for some brand
    of libertarianism should not be enough to make stable reasoning
    support a reign in the US by an obviously demented person and a
    congeries of varously gullible, maliciously devious or similarly
    demented followers.

    I think this is a very naughty and polarizing post! ;)

    The smiley suggests that you are a smug and self-superior troll. Hard
    to say for sure.

    I'd say it depends on the time of the day. Half-self-superior troll
    perhaps! ;)

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Fri May 24 15:16:55 2024
    On Tue, 21 May 2024, JAB wrote:

    On Tue, 21 May 2024 20:18:06 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Do you think I would need that?

    Many supporters lack the skills to RTFM, and understand what's
    happening.

    Hey, many children like candy, but when taught about health
    consequences, they act differently.


    That is true. The truth shall set you free... isn't that what we're told?
    ;)

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Fri May 24 15:41:35 2024
    On Fri, 24 May 2024 15:16:55 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Hey, many children like candy, but when taught about health
    consequences, they act differently.


    That is true.

    And Trump is feeding candy to the suckers/losers, who would get lower
    wages and no SS/Medicare in time under his thumb.

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  • From Trump's Willing Helicopter Pilot@21:1/5 to Mike Spencer on Fri May 24 22:07:34 2024
    Mike Spencer wrote:
    D <nospam@example.net> writes:

    On Mon, 20 May 2024, JAB wrote:

    Journalist Katie Couric says Trump supporters require "deprogramming"
    and calls them cult members.

    https://x.com/_wake_up_USA/status/1792565625014874309


    Do you think I would need that?

    Yes. Unless you are merely a smug and self-superior troll.

    You appear to be, from some of your posts, a reasonably intelligent
    and well-educated person. Your declared opinion that it would be a
    good thing for TFG to be the US president suggests a critical lacuna
    or disconnect in that intelligence. Even rabid support for some brand
    of libertarianism should not be enough to make stable reasoning
    support a reign in the US by an obviously demented person and a
    congeries of varously gullible, maliciously devious or similarly
    demented followers.

    Agreed, Biden really IS that bad.

    I think this is a very naughty and polarizing post! ;)

    The smiley suggests that you are a smug and self-superior troll. Hard
    to say for sure.


    When we take power, you and JAB are going to be killed for the good
    of humanity.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Sat May 25 14:49:10 2024
    On Fri, 24 May 2024, JAB wrote:

    On Fri, 24 May 2024 15:16:55 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Hey, many children like candy, but when taught about health
    consequences, they act differently.


    That is true.

    And Trump is feeding candy to the suckers/losers, who would get lower
    wages and no SS/Medicare in time under his thumb.

    But they would get lower taxes and earn more and only have to pay for what
    they use, so on the balance, they will be better off! =)

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Sat May 25 17:50:11 2024
    On Sat, 25 May 2024 14:49:10 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    But they would get lower taxes and earn more and only have to pay for what >they use, so on the balance, they will be better off! =)

    Well yeah, lower taxes because they earn less and less.

    Do recall Trump hired illegal's to do work on his (bankers) golf
    clubs.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to kill_spammers@albastardani.killthem on Sat May 25 18:52:05 2024
    On Fri, 24 May 2024 22:07:34 -0400, Trump's Willing Helicopter Pilot <kill_spammers@albastardani.killthem> wrote:

    When we take power, you and JAB are going to be killed for the good
    of humanity.

    "What we've got here is failure to communicate"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=452XjnaHr1A

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  • From Anonymous@21:1/5 to JAB on Sun May 26 00:08:51 2024
    JAB wrote:
    On Tue, 21 May 2024 20:18:06 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Do you think I would need that?

    What many blue collar supporters have missed is his beliefs, similar
    to Pol Pot's

    You're the one who advocates for "deprogramming" Trump supporters.

    Pol Pot was a Marxist. He's one of YOURS.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Sun May 26 12:16:05 2024
    On Sat, 25 May 2024, JAB wrote:

    On Sat, 25 May 2024 14:49:10 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    But they would get lower taxes and earn more and only have to pay for what >> they use, so on the balance, they will be better off! =)

    Well yeah, lower taxes because they earn less and less.

    Do recall Trump hired illegal's to do work on his (bankers) golf
    clubs.

    The fact that they were/are illegal is not the point. The point is that
    they freely choose to perform the work, given their circumstances, and
    Trump offered it, so both were better off as a result of the transaction.
    A win/win such as only the market can produce, and never the government.

    Also, with lowered taxes follows a growing economy so the worst off will
    get higher salaries as well and more work opportunities! =)

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Sun May 26 06:11:18 2024
    On Sun, 26 May 2024 12:16:05 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Trump offered it,

    Breaking US/State laws do not make a person a saint.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Anonymous on Sun May 26 12:17:35 2024
    On Sun, 26 May 2024, Anonymous wrote:

    JAB wrote:
    On Tue, 21 May 2024 20:18:06 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Do you think I would need that?

    What many blue collar supporters have missed is his beliefs, similar
    to Pol Pot's

    You're the one who advocates for "deprogramming" Trump supporters.

    Pol Pot was a Marxist. He's one of YOURS.


    You do have a point. I find it very hard to believe that Trump is a
    marxist.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Anonymous on Sun May 26 06:19:55 2024
    On Sun, 26 May 2024 00:08:51 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

    Pol Pot was a Marxist. He's one of YOURS.

    Your logic is flawed...a dictator is a dictator.

    Jorge Rafael Videla: the dictator who died in jail

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Sun May 26 12:06:48 2024
    On Sun, 26 May 2024 12:17:35 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    I find it very hard to believe that Trump is a
    marxist.

    Trump wants to be like Jorge Rafael Videla



    At his various trials, Videla "sought to take full responsibility for kidnappings, tortures, deaths and disappearances," according to The
    Associated Press.

    "He said he knew about everything that happened under his rule because
    'I was on top of everyone.' "

    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/05/17/184812767/former-argentine-dictator-who-oversaw-death-squads-dies-at-87

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Sun May 26 20:42:51 2024
    On Sun, 26 May 2024, JAB wrote:

    On Sun, 26 May 2024 12:16:05 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Trump offered it,

    Breaking US/State laws do not make a person a saint.

    Depends on what you think of the law. I do not recognize laws banning
    people from working, and paying people tax free/under the table is saintly
    in my book.

    So if Trump did that, he increases in respect for me, since he does not
    follow unjust laws. I of course do not follow these laws either if I can
    get away with it, which is why my tax rate is between 9% and 14% or so. =)

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Sun May 26 15:16:21 2024
    On Sun, 26 May 2024 20:42:51 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Depends on what you think of the law. I do not recognize laws..

    "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities..."
    (Romans 13:1)

    "As Trump infuses his campaign with Christian imagery, his support is
    strong among evangelicals and conservative Christians."

    "I now consider myself to be a non-denominational Christian," Trump
    said

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  • From Anonymous@21:1/5 to JAB on Sun May 26 23:04:41 2024
    JAB wrote:
    On Sun, 26 May 2024 00:08:51 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

    Pol Pot was a Marxist. He's one of YOURS.

    Your logic is flawed...a dictator is a dictator.

    Jorge Rafael Videla: the dictator who died in jail

    Right-wing dictators typically kill between 1/10th and 1/1000th the
    number of people left-wing dictators kill.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Anonymous on Sun May 26 22:43:12 2024
    On Sun, 26 May 2024 23:04:41 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

    Jorge Rafael Videla: the dictator who died in jail

    Right-wing dictators typically kill between 1/10th and 1/1000th the
    number of people left-wing dictators kill.

    "The problem, however, is categorising whether a dictator is left or
    right - in Panama's experience, for instance, our dictators switched
    sides"

    Hey, Trump has switch sides....and he wants to win by "straw votes"

    It's about behavior, not left or right viewpoints.


    What are the three 3 types of authoritarian governments?

    Monarchy: This is a system where the power is concentrated in one
    person, typically a king or queen.

    Dictatorship/autocracy: All power is in one person who ascended to
    the position either through a straw vote or a coup d'etat. ...

    Oligarchy: The rule by a few.

    https://homework.study.com/explanation/what-are-three-main-types-of-authoritarian-governments.html

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Anonymous on Mon May 27 11:22:44 2024
    On Sun, 26 May 2024, Anonymous wrote:

    JAB wrote:
    On Sun, 26 May 2024 00:08:51 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

    Pol Pot was a Marxist. He's one of YOURS.

    Your logic is flawed...a dictator is a dictator.

    Jorge Rafael Videla: the dictator who died in jail

    Right-wing dictators typically kill between 1/10th and 1/1000th the
    number of people left-wing dictators kill.


    This is true. The classic leftist trio is Hitler, Stalin and Mao. They basically crush it, when it comes to leftist political masskillings.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Mon May 27 09:22:32 2024
    On Mon, 27 May 2024 11:22:44 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Right-wing dictators typically kill between 1/10th and 1/1000th the
    number of people left-wing dictators kill.


    This is true. The classic leftist trio is Hitler, Stalin and Mao. They >basically crush it, when it comes to leftist political masskillings.

    What is true is these individuals are "control freaks," and their
    wraths are not related to their political viewpoints.

    Apr 30, 2024 - Trump is a control freak..."

    "Wrath is great anger that expresses itself in a desire to punish
    someone:"

    How many times has Trump lashed out on social media about others who
    are not in step with him?

    If he became an authoritarian, then those not in his cult are game for punishment. Do his supporters want to wear his "Mao suit"?

    Suckers/losers don't understand consequences...a person can't have
    their cake and eat it under Trump's thumb. Businesses are rewarded,
    and workers are second class.

    The classic leftist trio is Hitler

    Which history book did you read?

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Mon May 27 19:12:09 2024
    On Mon, 27 May 2024, JAB wrote:

    On Mon, 27 May 2024 11:22:44 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Right-wing dictators typically kill between 1/10th and 1/1000th the
    number of people left-wing dictators kill.


    This is true. The classic leftist trio is Hitler, Stalin and Mao. They
    basically crush it, when it comes to leftist political masskillings.

    What is true is these individuals are "control freaks," and their
    wraths are not related to their political viewpoints.

    I disagree. These individuals are socialists and communists and that is
    the danger here. For control freaks, all you need to do is to find your
    closest local politicians, those are dime a dozen.

    Apr 30, 2024 - Trump is a control freak..."

    No, he is the immortal leader of the white race. Did you know Trump has a sixpack?

    "Wrath is great anger that expresses itself in a desire to punish
    someone:"

    How many times has Trump lashed out on social media about others who
    are not in step with him?

    Who cares?

    If he became an authoritarian, then those not in his cult are game for punishment. Do his supporters want to wear his "Mao suit"?

    Suckers/losers don't understand consequences...a person can't have
    their cake and eat it under Trump's thumb. Businesses are rewarded,
    and workers are second class.

    The classic leftist trio is Hitler

    Which history book did you read?

    Regular history... the clue is in the name. Nazi as in... national
    _socialist_.

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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Mon May 27 21:54:15 2024
    On Mon, 27 May 2024 19:12:09 +0200
    D <nospam@example.net> wrote:



    On Mon, 27 May 2024, JAB wrote:

    On Mon, 27 May 2024 11:22:44 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Right-wing dictators typically kill between 1/10th and 1/1000th the
    number of people left-wing dictators kill.


    This is true. The classic leftist trio is Hitler, Stalin and Mao. They
    basically crush it, when it comes to leftist political masskillings.

    What is true is these individuals are "control freaks," and their
    wraths are not related to their political viewpoints.

    I disagree. These individuals are socialists and communists and that is
    the danger here. For control freaks, all you need to do is to find your closest local politicians, those are dime a dozen.

    Apr 30, 2024 - Trump is a control freak..."

    No, he is the immortal leader of the white race. Did you know Trump has a sixpack?

    "Wrath is great anger that expresses itself in a desire to punish
    someone:"

    How many times has Trump lashed out on social media about others who
    are not in step with him?

    Who cares?

    If he became an authoritarian, then those not in his cult are game for punishment. Do his supporters want to wear his "Mao suit"?

    Suckers/losers don't understand consequences...a person can't have
    their cake and eat it under Trump's thumb. Businesses are rewarded,
    and workers are second class.

    The classic leftist trio is Hitler

    Which history book did you read?

    Regular history... the clue is in the name. Nazi as in... national _socialist_.

    Troll Report:
    very old skool attempt
    3/10 See Me.

    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Mon May 27 17:52:10 2024
    On Mon, 27 May 2024 19:12:09 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    The classic leftist trio is Hitler

    Which history book did you read?

    Regular history... the clue is in the name. Nazi as in... national >_socialist_.

    I didn't realize US's Fox was in Europe...



    Hitler, Nazis, Socialism, and Rightwing Propaganda

    David Klein
    January 2011

    For several years, the right wing has been equating nazism, the left,
    and socialism. This is standard propaganda for Fox News and the Tea
    Party which both denounce Obama as a socialist and at the same time
    portray him visually with a Hitler mustache. Conservatives have also
    argued that Jared Loughner --- the shooter of U.S. Representative
    Gabrielle Giffords --- was influenced by leftwing ideology because his
    reading list included both Das Kapital by Karl Marx and Hitler's Mein
    Kampf (without mentioning another book on his list, We the Living, by
    Ayn Rand).
    ...
    ...
    Hitler and the Nazis outlawed socialism, and executed socialists and
    communists en masse, even before they started rounding up Jews

    https://www.csun.edu/~vcmth00m/NazismSocialism.html

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  • From Anonymous@21:1/5 to JAB on Mon May 27 23:30:58 2024
    JAB wrote:
    On Sun, 26 May 2024 23:04:41 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

    Jorge Rafael Videla: the dictator who died in jail

    Right-wing dictators typically kill between 1/10th and 1/1000th the
    number of people left-wing dictators kill.

    "The problem, however, is categorising whether a dictator is left or
    right - in Panama's experience, for instance, our dictators switched
    sides"

    Hey, Trump has switch sides....and he wants to win by "straw votes"

    It's about behavior, not left or right viewpoints.


    What are the three 3 types of authoritarian governments?

    Monarchy: This is a system where the power is concentrated in one person, typically a king or queen.

    Dictatorship/autocracy: All power is in one person who ascended to
    the position either through a straw vote or a coup d'etat. ...

    Oligarchy: The rule by a few.

    https://homework.study.com/explanation/what-are-three-main-types-of-authoritarian-governments.html

    The British were far more free under "authoritarian" monarchy than
    they are today under democracy.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Anonymous on Mon May 27 22:34:46 2024
    On Mon, 27 May 2024 23:28:37 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

    So what? Communists killed other communists en masse all the time.

    Human behavior....politics is not related...

    Idi Amin - was a Ugandan military officer and politician who served as
    the third president of Uganda from 1971 to 1979. He ruled as a
    military dictator and is considered one of the most brutal despots in
    modern world history.[2]
    ...
    ...
    The killings, motivated by ethnic, political, and financial factors,
    continued throughout Amin's eight years in control

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idi_Amin

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Anonymous on Mon May 27 22:38:18 2024
    On Mon, 27 May 2024 23:30:58 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

    The British were far more free under "authoritarian" monarchy than
    they are today under democracy.

    Henry VIII

    Henry brought radical changes to the Constitution of England,
    expanding royal power and ushering in the theory of the divine right
    of kings in opposition to papal supremacy. He frequently used charges
    of treason and heresy to quell dissent, and those accused were often
    executed without a formal trial using bills of attainder. He achieved
    many of his political aims through his chief ministers, some of whom
    were banished or executed when they fell out of his favour. Thomas
    Wolsey, Thomas More, Thomas Cromwell, and Thomas Cranmer all figured prominently in his administration.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_VIII

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  • From Anonymous@21:1/5 to JAB on Mon May 27 23:28:37 2024
    JAB wrote:
    On Mon, 27 May 2024 19:12:09 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    The classic leftist trio is Hitler

    Which history book did you read?

    Regular history... the clue is in the name. Nazi as in... national
    _socialist_.

    I didn't realize US's Fox was in Europe...



    Hitler, Nazis, Socialism, and Rightwing Propaganda

    David Klein

    Jewish pig. Hitler was a more "moderate" revolutionary leftist by 1930s standards. Just because the Overton Window has shifted so much further
    left doesn't make Hitler a rightist.

    January 2011

    For several years, the right wing has been equating nazism, the left,
    and socialism. This is standard propaganda for Fox News and the Tea
    Party which both denounce Obama as a socialist and at the same time
    portray him visually with a Hitler mustache. Conservatives have also
    argued that Jared Loughner --- the shooter of U.S. Representative
    Gabrielle Giffords --- was influenced by leftwing ideology because his reading list included both Das Kapital by Karl Marx and Hitler's Mein
    Kampf (without mentioning another book on his list, We the Living, by
    Ayn Rand).
    ...
    ...
    Hitler and the Nazis outlawed socialism, and executed socialists and communists en masse, even before they started rounding up Jews

    https://www.csun.edu/~vcmth00m/NazismSocialism.html

    So what? Communists killed other communists en masse all the time.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue May 28 13:11:19 2024
    Haha, nice try. Nazis... let me spell that out again for you... national "socialism". ;)

    But of course the left wants to wipe its bloody hands and off load their
    own history and their own results to the right.

    Next up...

    Chairman Mao was actually a capitalist pig and Trump supporter. ;)

    On Mon, 27 May 2024, JAB wrote:

    On Mon, 27 May 2024 19:12:09 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    The classic leftist trio is Hitler

    Which history book did you read?

    Regular history... the clue is in the name. Nazi as in... national
    _socialist_.

    I didn't realize US's Fox was in Europe...



    Hitler, Nazis, Socialism, and Rightwing Propaganda

    David Klein
    January 2011

    For several years, the right wing has been equating nazism, the left,
    and socialism. This is standard propaganda for Fox News and the Tea
    Party which both denounce Obama as a socialist and at the same time
    portray him visually with a Hitler mustache. Conservatives have also
    argued that Jared Loughner --- the shooter of U.S. Representative
    Gabrielle Giffords --- was influenced by leftwing ideology because his reading list included both Das Kapital by Karl Marx and Hitler's Mein
    Kampf (without mentioning another book on his list, We the Living, by
    Ayn Rand).
    ...
    ...
    Hitler and the Nazis outlawed socialism, and executed socialists and communists en masse, even before they started rounding up Jews

    https://www.csun.edu/~vcmth00m/NazismSocialism.html


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  • From D@21:1/5 to John on Tue May 28 13:10:04 2024
    On Mon, 27 May 2024, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:

    On Mon, 27 May 2024 19:12:09 +0200
    D <nospam@example.net> wrote:



    On Mon, 27 May 2024, JAB wrote:

    On Mon, 27 May 2024 11:22:44 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Right-wing dictators typically kill between 1/10th and 1/1000th the
    number of people left-wing dictators kill.


    This is true. The classic leftist trio is Hitler, Stalin and Mao. They >>>> basically crush it, when it comes to leftist political masskillings.

    What is true is these individuals are "control freaks," and their
    wraths are not related to their political viewpoints.

    I disagree. These individuals are socialists and communists and that is
    the danger here. For control freaks, all you need to do is to find your
    closest local politicians, those are dime a dozen.

    Apr 30, 2024 - Trump is a control freak..."

    No, he is the immortal leader of the white race. Did you know Trump has a
    sixpack?

    "Wrath is great anger that expresses itself in a desire to punish
    someone:"

    How many times has Trump lashed out on social media about others who
    are not in step with him?

    Who cares?

    If he became an authoritarian, then those not in his cult are game for
    punishment. Do his supporters want to wear his "Mao suit"?

    Suckers/losers don't understand consequences...a person can't have
    their cake and eat it under Trump's thumb. Businesses are rewarded,
    and workers are second class.

    The classic leftist trio is Hitler

    Which history book did you read?

    Regular history... the clue is in the name. Nazi as in... national
    _socialist_.

    Troll Report:
    very old skool attempt
    3/10 See Me.

    Thank you John, always a pleasure!

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Anonymous on Tue May 28 13:12:27 2024
    On Mon, 27 May 2024, Anonymous wrote:

    JAB wrote:
    On Mon, 27 May 2024 19:12:09 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    The classic leftist trio is Hitler

    Which history book did you read?

    Regular history... the clue is in the name. Nazi as in... national
    _socialist_.

    I didn't realize US's Fox was in Europe...



    Hitler, Nazis, Socialism, and Rightwing Propaganda

    David Klein

    Jewish pig. Hitler was a more "moderate" revolutionary leftist by 1930s standards. Just because the Overton Window has shifted so much further
    left doesn't make Hitler a rightist.

    January 2011

    For several years, the right wing has been equating nazism, the left,
    and socialism. This is standard propaganda for Fox News and the Tea
    Party which both denounce Obama as a socialist and at the same time
    portray him visually with a Hitler mustache. Conservatives have also
    argued that Jared Loughner --- the shooter of U.S. Representative
    Gabrielle Giffords --- was influenced by leftwing ideology because his
    reading list included both Das Kapital by Karl Marx and Hitler's Mein
    Kampf (without mentioning another book on his list, We the Living, by
    Ayn Rand).
    ...
    ...
    Hitler and the Nazis outlawed socialism, and executed socialists and
    communists en masse, even before they started rounding up Jews

    https://www.csun.edu/~vcmth00m/NazismSocialism.html

    So what? Communists killed other communists en masse all the time.


    Also note that Hitler did not outlaw socialism, he outlawed other
    socialist parties with russian connections. He was a nationa socialist
    himself, so outlawing himself would make no sense.

    Only a leftist could believe the nonsense in the email above.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Anonymous on Tue May 28 13:13:34 2024
    On Mon, 27 May 2024, Anonymous wrote:

    JAB wrote:
    On Sun, 26 May 2024 23:04:41 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

    Jorge Rafael Videla: the dictator who died in jail

    Right-wing dictators typically kill between 1/10th and 1/1000th the
    number of people left-wing dictators kill.

    "The problem, however, is categorising whether a dictator is left or
    right - in Panama's experience, for instance, our dictators switched
    sides"

    Hey, Trump has switch sides....and he wants to win by "straw votes"

    It's about behavior, not left or right viewpoints.


    What are the three 3 types of authoritarian governments?

    Monarchy: This is a system where the power is concentrated in one
    person, typically a king or queen.

    Dictatorship/autocracy: All power is in one person who ascended to
    the position either through a straw vote or a coup d'etat. ...

    Oligarchy: The rule by a few.

    https://homework.study.com/explanation/what-are-three-main-types-of-authoritarian-governments.html

    The British were far more free under "authoritarian" monarchy than
    they are today under democracy.


    Depends on what you measure. On some measurements I completely agree with
    you. Also worth asking... is what we have today democracy? Or is it
    perhaps closer to oligarchy where the most prominent political jobs are inherited either by the politicians own family or the political class?

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue May 28 13:14:26 2024
    On Mon, 27 May 2024, JAB wrote:

    On Mon, 27 May 2024 23:28:37 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

    So what? Communists killed other communists en masse all the time.

    Human behavior....politics is not related...

    Idi Amin - was a Ugandan military officer and politician who served as
    the third president of Uganda from 1971 to 1979. He ruled as a
    military dictator and is considered one of the most brutal despots in
    modern world history.[2]
    ...
    ...
    The killings, motivated by ethnic, political, and financial factors, continued throughout Amin's eight years in control

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idi_Amin

    It is actually very related. Politics is about values and how to handle
    scarce resources. Values influences your behaviour, ergo, politics and
    values shape each other, which gives rise to certain behaviour. Q.E.D.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Tue May 28 06:20:57 2024
    On Tue, 28 May 2024 13:12:27 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Hitler...He was a

    Asshole...KISS

    And if his objectives were accomplished, businesses are rewarded, and
    we the people are second class. The old Master/Slave relationship.

    That's right, the masters do not take out the trash, the slaves work
    for them.

    Get real, suckers/losers....masters want cheap labor, so they have
    more toys.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Auric Hellman on Tue May 28 19:01:39 2024
    This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text,
    while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.

    On Tue, 28 May 2024, Auric Hellman wrote:

    On 5/28/2024 7:13 AM, D wrote:


    On Mon, 27 May 2024, Anonymous wrote:

    JAB wrote:
    On Sun, 26 May 2024 23:04:41 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

    Jorge Rafael Videla: the dictator who died in jail

    Right-wing dictators typically kill between 1/10th and 1/1000th the
    number of people left-wing dictators kill.

    "The problem, however, is categorising whether a dictator is left or
    right - in Panama's experience, for instance, our dictators switched
    sides"

    Hey, Trump has switch sides....and he wants to win by "straw votes"

    It's about behavior, not left or right viewpoints.


    What are the three 3 types of authoritarian governments?

         Monarchy: This is a system where the power is concentrated in one >>>> person, typically a king or queen.

         Dictatorship/autocracy: All power is in one person who ascended to
    the position either through a straw vote or a coup d'etat. ...

         Oligarchy: The rule by a few.

    https://homework.study.com/explanation/what-are-three-main-types-of-authoritarian-governments.html

    The British were far more free under "authoritarian" monarchy than
    they are today under democracy.


    Depends on what you measure. On some measurements I completely agree with
    you. Also worth asking... is what we have today democracy? Or is it perhaps >> closer to oligarchy where the most prominent political jobs are inherited
    either by the politicians own family or the political class?


    My connections in Washington have faded over time, but I do remember years past. Whether Democrat or Republican, liberal or conservative, after debating each other in Congress. these representatives would socialize together, vacation together, marry into each other's family. Jobs would change hands but only to members of the social circle. Every four years, the money behind these representatives would decide which 2 candidates the public would vote for President. Democracy, even representative democracy, is an ideal, not a reality.

    I am leaning towards this view as well. The best "democracy" I lived in
    was switzerland, but that was many, many years ago, so I am convinced that switzerland probably has been sliding as well.

    It seems to me that there is literally no innovation in democracy or even attempts (I mean real attempts) to make current "democracy" more
    democratic, and that is why I feel as if we are sliding into something
    more authoritarian with an established political class, with special rules
    and laws for themselves, just like the nobility of old.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to adhellman1@gmail.com on Tue May 28 11:26:13 2024
    On Tue, 28 May 2024 10:41:04 -0400, Auric Hellman
    <adhellman1@gmail.com> wrote:

    Whether Democrat or Republican, liberal or conservative,
    after debating each other in Congress. these representatives would
    socialize together, vacation together, marry into each other's family.
    Jobs would change hands but only to members of the social circle.

    Typical behavior in a social circle, etc....University graduates may
    have their social connections...and even in blue collar places, the
    workers may decide on who gets hired.

    Years ago, a hospital CEO came onboard, and brought in his university
    'friends' for key positions.
    =================================

    After 'whites only' job posting, tech staffing firm settles with DOJ

    A Virginia-based tech company will pay thousands of dollars in fines
    for a job posting that requested "whites only" to apply.

    The Justice and Labor departments have fined minority-owned federal
    contractor Arthur Grand Technologies Inc. a civil penalty of $7,500.
    The departments also ordered the federal contractor to pay $31,000
    overall to 31 people who complained about the posting.

    https://thehill.com/business/4688856-whites-only-job-posting-tech-staffing-firm-settles-doj/

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Tue May 28 19:24:11 2024
    On Tue, 28 May 2024 19:01:39 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    It seems to me that there is literally no innovation in democracy

    Spock says, "Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many
    outweigh the needs of the few."

    But, Trump supporters want more restrictions..

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  • From Danart@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 29 01:41:00 2024
    JAB wrote:
    Journalist Katie Couric says Trump supporters require
    "deprogramming"
    and calls them cult members.


    https://x.com/_wake_up_USA/status/1792565625014874309

    Nationalism
    = for yourself. Which means you only care about your own people. Japan
    is literally about this. They might be marketed today as Conservative
    but that is far from the truth. The only reason you do not see who
    they really are is because the majority of people are unable to truly
    enjoy there culture. However it is legal for them to denounce
    service,
    and even for a time banned Chinese but allowed other foreigners in
    there parks.

    China / Mainland Asia currently have this stigma. When covid hit they
    were serving anybody who look western bowls...like a dog. Police
    officers ( even now ) harass people who stick out as well. To even
    illegally ceasing of travel-pass/passports.

    Socialism = when you find a problem via communications by working
    together.. EXAMPLE: People are getting sick, you keep asking and
    looking at cases. You find people are getting sick from a specific
    item. You find the specific item is using water from an old-well. The
    well is sealed and a proper water source is installed. Thus people
    stop getting sick. That is what socialism is.

    The problem is that socialism is often mistaken for nations that calls themselves socialist but are practicing communism.
    Like Sputnik-day ( potato day ) where the citizens are forced to peel
    potatoes in a line. Or when people are forced by gun-point to clean
    trash.

    Capitalism = you perform a task you gain pay. Your taxed on that task
    for government services rendered. People of a higher-income moves in,
    the taxes climb. People of a lower-income moves in taxes fall.

    Democracy = You vote and those votes are pitted against other votes in
    which a decision is made. The President can veto the vote, and the
    judiciary branch can also veto the

    Democratic Republican ( Democratic ) = you give a man food, educate
    him, and give him a reason to be. He will be thankful and give back
    "Ask not what your nation can do for but what you can do for your
    nation".

    Whig + Central Banking Party ( Republican ) = Everybody can do for
    themselves without any assistance or government
    association. Basically no public-school, no college education, no CVS,
    no Hospital insurance, no proper housing for
    "The-Negro" ( or anybody having a hard time in life ). No
    proper-health-care. No support for Veterans. No support for families
    affected by divorce or separation. No women-rights to anything. No
    programs at all. You go to get a simple job where they have to train
    you, you can not get one because your lacking experience in that
    specific work. Just a bunch of "Southern Democratic Party"
    cowards ( Racists ) hiding behind religion and making the excuse
    "Taxes too high, me go to the grave soon...sad"


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=665716651#665716651

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed May 29 11:47:29 2024
    On Tue, 28 May 2024, JAB wrote:

    On Tue, 28 May 2024 19:01:39 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    It seems to me that there is literally no innovation in democracy

    Spock says, "Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many
    outweigh the needs of the few."

    But, Trump supporters want more restrictions..


    Depends on your philosophical underpinnings. I subscribe to the notion
    that individuals have inalienable and eternal rights and therefore that a majority can never rule a minority in an ethical way.

    If, however, you are a utilitarian or socialist, then yes, there is a
    case for 51% making slaves out of 49% and that would be entirely ethical
    and a worthy goal.

    So based on my view as the individual as the ultimate and final unit of
    society and "value carrier" the only ethical government is one based on consent. If people do not consent, and yet have to subject themselves,
    that is just another name for authoritarianism and dictatorship.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Wed May 29 06:55:48 2024
    On Wed, 29 May 2024 11:47:29 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Depends on your philosophical underpinnings. I subscribe to the notion
    that individuals have inalienable and eternal rights and therefore that a >majority can never rule a minority in an ethical way.

    IIRC, religious ones are behaviorally limited....also in US, within
    your living quarters, I believe SCOTUS has ruled you can toot your
    horn, provided no harm to others.

    In public spaces, there are behavioral restrictions...with some
    countries being more 'liberal' than others.

    authoritarianism and dictatorship

    In US's history, its been the conservatives who lean towards the
    above.

    Smedley Butler - In November 1934, Butler told the committee that one
    Gerald P. MacGuire told him that a group of businessmen, supposedly
    backed by a private army of 500,000 ex-soldiers and others, intended
    to establish a fascist dictatorship
    ...
    In its report to the House, the committee stated that, while "no
    evidence was presented... to show a connection... with any fascist
    activity of any European country... [t]here was no question that these
    attempts were discussed, were planned, and might have been placed in execution..." and that "your committee was able to verify all the
    pertinent statements made by General Butler, with the exception of the
    direct statement about the creation of the organization. This,
    however, was corroborated in the correspondence of MacGuire with his
    principal, Robert Sterling Clark...."[68] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler

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  • From Anonymous@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed May 29 21:05:11 2024
    JAB wrote:
    On Mon, 27 May 2024 23:30:58 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

    The British were far more free under "authoritarian" monarchy than
    they are today under democracy.

    Henry VIII

    Henry brought radical changes to the Constitution of England,
    expanding royal power and ushering in the theory of the divine right
    of kings in opposition to papal supremacy. He frequently used charges
    of treason and heresy to quell dissent, and those accused were often
    executed without a formal trial using bills of attainder. He achieved
    many of his political aims through his chief ministers, some of whom
    were banished or executed when they fell out of his favour. Thomas
    Wolsey, Thomas More, Thomas Cromwell, and Thomas Cranmer all figured prominently in his administration.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_VIII

    And the average Briton back then was STILL freer than their decedents
    are now.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Anonymous on Wed May 29 21:54:40 2024
    On Wed, 29 May 2024 21:05:11 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

    And the average Briton back then was STILL freer than their decedents
    are now.

    Daily Life - Work in 1500's England

    Working conditions during the 1500's were very harsh and not ideal.
    Long hours were put in every single day, no matter the weather
    conditions.

    Working Conditions

    Shakespear's Work Life

    There is little evidence of Shakespeare's London career. Between 1592
    and 1594 the theaters were frequently closed because of the plague, so
    many of his plays could not be performed at that time.

    The Economy

    One effect of increase of population during the 16th century was price increase. Prices rose fivefold. Inflation was a large problem in the
    16th and 17th centuries.

    Children's Work

    Children began to do serious work once they reached puberty, at around
    ages 12-14. Sometimes this was done at home, assisting agriculture
    work or a craft, but it was commom to send children away from home at
    the age of puberty to be servants to other people. This was reckoned
    to train and discipline them.



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