• How film stars faded - and pop stars took over

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 27 11:34:04 2024
    How film stars faded - and pop stars took over

    ...
    But while the public can't seem to get enough of seeing their
    favourite pop stars on stadium tours, their favourite actors aren't
    drawing them to cinemas in the same way.

    While casting a big star used to guarantee some level of success at
    the box office, the adulation which was once reserved for movie stars
    now seems to be directed at pop stars.


    There are all kinds of factors at play - including the move towards
    streaming, the impact of the pandemic, and the film industry's
    over-reliance on franchises, sequels and superheroes.

    But the trend is also arguably a reflection of how audience habits are evolving. Today's fans crave authenticity - something you get with pop
    stars who write their own music, but not so much with actors who are
    by definition always portraying somebody else.

    "I think our expectations of celebrities are changing in general," The Hollywood Reporter's Lily Ford tells BBC News.

    "Music is extremely personal, the world's most famous and glamorous
    people are pouring their heart out, and, for the length of the song,
    we feel as close to an artist as we would our best friend."
    ...
    ...
    None of this is to say there aren't successful movies anymore. There
    are. But what links them is generally not the bankable box office
    star, but the intellectual property (IP) attached to the film.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3gglv8y39vo

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  • From Danart@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 30 05:55:49 2024
    JAB wrote:
    How film stars faded - and pop stars took over

    ....
    But while the public can't seem to get enough of seeing their
    favourite pop stars on stadium tours, their favourite actors aren't
    drawing them to cinemas in the same way.

    While casting a big star used to guarantee some level of success at
    the box office, the adulation which was once reserved for movie
    stars
    now seems to be directed at pop stars.


    There are all kinds of factors at play - including the move towards streaming, the impact of the pandemic, and the film industry's
    over-reliance on franchises, sequels and superheroes.

    But the trend is also arguably a reflection of how audience habits
    are
    evolving. Today's fans crave authenticity - something you get with
    pop
    stars who write their own music, but not so much with actors who
    are
    by definition always portraying somebody else.

    "I think our expectations of celebrities are changing in
    general," The
    Hollywood Reporter's Lily Ford tells BBC News.

    "Music is extremely personal, the world's most famous and
    glamorous
    people are pouring their heart out, and, for the length of the
    song,
    we feel as close to an artist as we would our best friend."
    ....
    ....
    None of this is to say there aren't successful movies anymore.
    There
    are. But what links them is generally not the bankable box office
    star, but the intellectual property (IP) attached to the film.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3gglv8y39vo

    1. Hollywood
    was a man-made creation. It stayed that way until the 1970's in which
    women gain more power. Afterwards it became about "Three is
    Company" and that was the beginning of the end. The final stab in
    the corpse was 9/11. It was a distraction.

    2. People need people to play at event spaces. All you need to do is
    market yourself cheap or even do gigs for free. From when they are
    young their parents ( who might have been in the industry ) would hold
    concerts and events. This way as time goes by these people would grow
    up and take the place of the last person. Just like how Kid-Rock was a
    big deal with JC but in his later-years he reverted to country. You
    want to be a rock star? Then your going to be that band working on a
    cruise ship, playing music they want along with some hits if any.


    I have learned this and this alone, women lose the ability to give
    birth but not men. Men needs to watch there health. However stupid men
    who honestly believes there money. While there are women who give
    birth into the fifties most of these women have had children from when
    they were teenagers themselves. The Roman Calendar that was used most
    likely adopted from other cultures ( pagan/various ) calendars rotate
    around the lunar-cycle indicating when women are most fertile. All for slave-production. Not every womb is made equal.

    ........................

    Every generation starting with radio. Needs something different on the
    radio to listen to. The image needs to be promoted as well. That is
    the same with all industries. It is called the "Three Ring
    Circus". The idea is to keep inside the circus as long as
    possible. By having three shows on going the person is distracted and
    waits all day or returns to the circus to see the next show, and show
    after that.

    ........................

    Imagine if we had no media. Children would all get educated and
    parents would actually start forming communities.
    Everybody would be wealthy and functional. Nobody would live in fear
    or doubt.


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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to adhellman1@gmail.com on Thu May 30 15:27:41 2024
    On Wed, 29 May 2024 15:39:34 -0400, Auric Hellman
    <adhellman1@gmail.com> wrote:


    In addition to the aforementioned, computer-generated special effects
    play a big part in many box-office hits, limiting the amount of actual >acting. Their star doesn't shine as bright anymore.

    Themes come and go, along with how presented. Audiences' mindsets can
    affect what Hollywood supports. Hollywood's 'thinkers' rejected Kevin Costner's Dances with Wolves, but it did quite well.

    Decent quality computer-generated special effects have been around
    since later 1970s, but I still believe some actors will be 'desired.'

    Newness - "Kids lose their enthusiasm for things when the sense of
    newness wears off."

    Newness can be effective....and various rock bands, etc., attempt to invent/reinvent their acts.

    I'd say computer-generated special effects has a market place, but
    this too can get old. As BB King said, The Thrill Is Gone

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgXSomPE_FY

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to adhellman1@gmail.com on Thu May 30 20:19:23 2024
    On Wed, 29 May 2024 15:39:34 -0400, Auric Hellman
    <adhellman1@gmail.com> wrote:

    computer-generated special effects

    Here's an example....newness

    https://x.com/ThebestFigen/status/1796162585777086643

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  • From Danart@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 1 16:00:26 2024
    JAB wrote:
    How film stars faded - and pop stars took over

    ....
    But while the public can't seem to get enough of seeing their
    favourite pop stars on stadium tours, their favourite actors aren't
    drawing them to cinemas in the same way.

    While casting a big star used to guarantee some level of success at
    the box office, the adulation which was once reserved for movie
    stars
    now seems to be directed at pop stars.


    There are all kinds of factors at play - including the move towards streaming, the impact of the pandemic, and the film industry's
    over-reliance on franchises, sequels and superheroes.

    But the trend is also arguably a reflection of how audience habits
    are
    evolving. Today's fans crave authenticity - something you get with
    pop
    stars who write their own music, but not so much with actors who
    are
    by definition always portraying somebody else.

    "I think our expectations of celebrities are changing in
    general," The
    Hollywood Reporter's Lily Ford tells BBC News.

    "Music is extremely personal, the world's most famous and
    glamorous
    people are pouring their heart out, and, for the length of the
    song,
    we feel as close to an artist as we would our best friend."
    ....
    ....
    None of this is to say there aren't successful movies anymore.
    There
    are. But what links them is generally not the bankable box office
    star, but the intellectual property (IP) attached to the film.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3gglv8y39vo

    Nothing is
    new, nothing is original and even if they did make anything it is
    overshadowed by the apex of society.
    Sadly Smith from Matrix was correct.


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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Danart on Sat Jun 1 14:17:53 2024
    On Sat, 01 Jun 2024 16:00:26 +0000,
    danmin@danminart-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Danart) wrote:

    Nothing is
    new, nothing is original and even if they did make anything it is >overshadowed by the apex of society.
    Sadly Smith from Matrix was correct.

    "The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which
    is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under
    the sun."

    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/nothing-new-under-the-sun

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to adhellman1@gmail.com on Sat Jun 1 19:27:53 2024
    On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 19:54:14 -0400, Auric Hellman
    <adhellman1@gmail.com> wrote:

    What are the odds of that I'm listening to BB King as I'm reading your
    post?

    Garsh, Sha-zam, Gall-lee)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSpBwt4hFN8

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