• Putin demands more land

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 14 19:25:29 2024
    Putin demands more land to end Ukraine war, terms Kyiv rejects as
    'complete sham'
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    Appeasement will not end Russia's long term goals.

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  • From Mike Spencer@21:1/5 to JAB on Sat Jun 15 01:55:40 2024
    JAB <here@is.invalid> writes:

    Putin demands more land to end Ukraine war...

    Old joke: ...and give him a couple of acres.



    ...terms Kyiv rejects as 'complete sham'
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    Appeasement will not end Russia's long term goals.

    --
    Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Sat Jun 15 14:49:59 2024
    On Fri, 14 Jun 2024, JAB wrote:

    Putin demands more land to end Ukraine war, terms Kyiv rejects as
    'complete sham'
    ============================

    Appeasement will not end Russia's long term goals.


    Of course not. Any high school student of WW2 history knows that if Putin
    gets what he wants, his war will have been justified and he'll start again after reloading the batteries for a few years.

    It is imperative that he loses and is humiliated in front of his enemies
    in russia, so they lose all respect for him and kill him.

    The challenge will be for a orderly hand over to someone who is more west oriented. I think the wests intelligence services will have their plates
    full with that job for a few years keeping the lessons learned from
    Yeltsin in mind.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Sat Jun 15 19:09:15 2024
    On Sat, 15 Jun 2024 14:49:59 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:


    It is imperative that he loses and is humiliated in front of his enemies
    in russia, so they lose all respect for him and kill him.

    Well, he just lost 50 billion....

    Ukraine gets $50 billion from Russian assets and a US security deal at
    the G7 summit

    From Russia, with interest. The Group of Seven (G7) leaders announced
    Thursday that they had agreed on a plan to send fifty billion dollars
    to Ukraine in the coming months by pulling forward interest income on
    Russian assets that had been immobilized in Western countries since
    February 2022 (a novel idea that Atlantic Council research helped
    shape). Combined with the announcement of a bilateral security deal
    with the United States, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy took
    home significant wins from joining the summit of the world's
    democratic economic heavyweights along Italy's Adriatic coast. Below,
    our experts dig into the details on how these agreements came together
    and how they might reshape the conflict.

    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/experts-react-ukraine-gets-50-billion-from-russian-assets-and-a-us-security-deal-at-the-g7-summit/

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