Trump injured in shooting at Pennsylvania rally that left at least 1
dead
...
Trump was injured in the shooting. He dropped to the ground and was
swarmed by Secret Service agents after shots rang out while he spoke
onstage, and he had blood on his face as he was rushed away.

The Secret Service said Trump is safe and under protective measures. A spokesperson said Trump is "fine" after the "heinous act."

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/election-biden-trump-07-13-24/index.html

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On Sat, 13 Jul 2024 19:20:54 -0500, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

The Secret Service said Trump is safe and under protective measures. A >spokesperson said Trump is "fine" after the "heinous act."

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/election-biden-trump-07-13-24/index.html

12 sec vid

Donald Trump pumps his fist as blood covers his face after 'pops' ring
out.

https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1812250962297548849

Republicans say we need more guns.....

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On 2024-07-14, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

Trump injured in shooting at Pennsylvania rally that left at least 1
dead

Hard to believe. Yet, this is America in 2024.

Very soon we'll learn Melania did it. "Tired of that windbag!" she
pouts, clutching a $900 handbag.

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On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 01:35:35 -0000 (UTC), Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:

Hard to believe. Yet, this is America in 2024.

Videos seen suggest superficial skin scrape....unknown if a bullet or
glass caused the injury.

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On 2024-07-14, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 01:35:35 -0000 (UTC), Retrograde
<fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:

Hard to believe. Yet, this is America in 2024.

Videos seen suggest superficial skin scrape....unknown if a bullet or
glass caused the injury.

Known. It was a shooter, now killed.

I suggested Melania earlier. But no, I think it was: Rudy Giuliani.
Let's review the facts:

* RG has been sued into oblivion for the "work" he did defending Trump.
* He tried to claim bankruptcy; it was just denied this week meaning the
lawsuits and asset seizure can continue. He'll probably lose
everything.
* He's been disbarred from practicing law
* His other source of income, like radio shows, also now gone because he
insists on continuing to talk about the 2020 election lies

* Lastly, his personal ruin was for the cause of Trump ... who ...
STIFFED HIM FOR $2M in legal fees! Bwa ha ha ha

Ha, what a joker. Took a bad job. Committed atrocities on behalf of
his boss. Got treated like a schmuck publicly. Meanwhile, Teflon Don
is headed toward the presidency, and RG is headed toward ... living
under a bridge with a bunch of meth heads, sucking cock for cash.

Who better to try to shoot the orange faced clown?! I rest my case.

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Retrograde wrote:

On 2024-07-14, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 01:35:35 -0000 (UTC), Retrograde
<fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:

Hard to believe. Yet, this is America in 2024.

Videos seen suggest superficial skin scrape....unknown if a
bullet or glass caused the injury.

Known. It was a shooter, now killed.

[Snip]

Who better to try to shoot the orange faced clown?! I rest my
case.

Knowing how they love conspiracy theories in America it won't be
too long before some people claim it was all a set-up so Donald
Trump could get the sympathy vote in November...

Of course, two inches to the right and it'd be a different sort
of sympathy he'd be getting.

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JAB wrote:

Trump injured in shooting at Pennsylvania rally that left at
least 1 dead

Well done America... Donald Trump as President again in
November, CONFIRMED.

Democracy in action!

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On Sun, 14 Jul 2024, Blueshirt wrote:

JAB wrote:

Trump injured in shooting at Pennsylvania rally that left at
least 1 dead

Well done America... Donald Trump as President again in
November, CONFIRMED.

Democracy in action!

Yep, our leader just won the election! =) Looking forward to the US
leaving all stupid climate treaties!

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On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 09:29:25 +0100, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

it won't be
too long before some people claim it was all a set-up so Donald
Trump could get the sympathy vote in November...

He already did a live photo shoot for the sympathy card....



12 sec vid -Donald Trump pumps his fist as blood covers his face after
'pops' ring out.

https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1812250962297548849

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On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 11:48:20 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Looking forward to the US
leaving all stupid climate treaties!

The Rs have taken the position that "our viewpoints" are righteous,
and fuck you science.

But behind the scenes, they are supporting polluting industries, who
are providing funding for their elections.

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On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 09:29:25 +0100, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

conspiracy theories

Andrei V Kozyrev @andreivkozyrev

Exploiting terrorist acts for blaming and then "revenging" political
opponents is by the book of Bolshevism/Putinism. Tradition goes from
an attempt on Lenin a century ago to the recent massacre in a Moscow
shopping mole. (+1)


The Kremlin TV is blaming Democrats' created "atmosphere around Trump"
for an outrageous attempt on him. As usual, domestic propaganda will
be translated to poison the political atmosphere in America through
cyberspace.

https://x.com/andreivkozyrev/status/1812479248449294744

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On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 01:35:35 -0000 (UTC), Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:

Hard to believe. Yet, this is America in 2024.

Here is Elon, not knowing Jack Shit, expressing his ignorance. Local
law enforcement has their hand in this matter.



Elon Musk @elonmusk
Extreme incompetence or it was deliberate. Either way, the SS
leadership must resign.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1812296672510111853

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JAB wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 01:35:35 -0000 (UTC), Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:

Hard to believe. Yet, this is America in 2024.

Here is Elon, not knowing Jack Shit, expressing his ignorance.
Local law enforcement has their hand in this matter.

Elon Musk @elonmusk
Extreme incompetence or it was deliberate. Either way, the SS
leadership must resign.

I'm not on Twitter and I don't care much for Elon Musk either
BUT on reflection, how is it that the Secret Service didn't spot
a man with a rifle on a roof? Surely they are positioned on
other roofs surveying the area around where the ex-President was
speaking?

Taking the shooter out after the event is one thing but he
didn't just appear on the roof from thin air did he? Did nobody
see him climb up to or move along the roof to his shooting
position? If not, then what exactly were they looking at?!

I'm not advocating a conspiracy, as human negligence is more
likely the answer, but you'd like to think the Secret Service
personnel on duty would spot a man with a rifle on a roof!

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On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 19:47:08 +0100, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

BUT on reflection, how is it that the Secret Service didn't spot
a man with a rifle on a roof?

Tim McMillan @LtTimMcMillan
Retired LEO

Having personally worked several Presidential and Vice Presidential
security details, here's some of my thoughts based on the available
info of the assassination attempt on Trump.

1. The Secret Service employ a multi-tiered defense in depth approach
to protective missions. An inner tier offer close protection support,
these being the agents you see rushing in and surrounding Trump after
the initial shots go off.

2. A second middle tier is tasked with identifying and defending
against mid-range threats, i.g. the crowd, etc. This tier is largely
comprised of local and state law enforcement temporarily attached to
the security detail. This is the area that I worked on prior details.

3. Finally, you have an extend tier, which covers long distance
threats. This can include counter sniper details and cyber/SIGINT
support and CBRN defense.

4. People have wondered how could the counter snipers in the videos
not have seen the would be assassin prior to him getting off a shot.
This is because the area of responsibility for those counter snipers
on the roof behind Trump was very likely in the extend tier

5. Essentially they were scanning for threats a great distances well
beyond the roughly 150 meters the threat appeared.
This is evidenced by the fact that the elevated counter sniper has to dramatically drop his line of sight to respond to the shooter.

6. Secret Service advanced teams would have absolutely pre-scouted the
location and identified the building the shooter used as a vulnerable
spot in the defense.
Which begs the question, how was this guy still able to climb on the
roof and get off a shot?

7. Based on limited details at this point, IMO, the security breakdown
occurred in the middle tier, which would likely include law
enforcement who were supposed to be assigned to the area near the
outbuildings.

8. How that significant of a breakdown could occur is up for
speculation. However, like I said this tier is largely dependent on
local law enforcement and not the Secret Service. So speculatively,
the local LEOs who were supposed to be in the area and make sure no
one with a

9. gun climbed up on the roof, f*cked up.

People have said that witnesses saw the guy with the gun on the roof,
told police, but that they failed to respond and prevent the
assassination attempt.
So how does that happen?

10, Well, there's typically limited lines communication between the
Secret Service and the local LEOs working the middle tier.
You usually have one or two local LEO liaisons who have direct
communication with the Secret Service, which means communications on
the ground

11. between the local LEOs being told about the shooter are being
routed through dispatch, to local liaisons, then to Secret Service.

Compounding the difficulty to rapidly respond is the fact that there's
always some confusion and inefficiency when multiple different LEO

12. agencies come together to work a detail. Most of these agencies
aren't used to working with each other and aren't given much
information beyond a few pre-event briefings.

13. I actually saw what can go wrong in these scenarios first-hand
when President Bush's Secret Service detail almost engaged a local
police SWAT/counter sniper team during the 2004 G8 summit. No one had
properly communicated the local SWAT team's position so all the

14. Secret Service saw was heavily armed individuals with a line of
sight on the President.
The whole thing was seconds away from being a tragic incident.

In this same vein, there was likely some delay and confusion with the
initial reports of a person with a gun on the roof

15. as local cops and Secret Service agents would all be trying to
confirm the shooter didn't belong to one of the security support
teams.

16. So in summary, when looking for blame in this massive security
failure, if I was a betting man, I'd say the answer rests with
whatever detail (likely local LEOs) were assigned to the area near the outbuildings.

17. I'll also add that I worked 5 Presidential details as a local LEO attachment. Even though I was in close proximity for each detail, in
only 2 of them did I actually ever see the President or Vice
President. That was Bush, while he was in the limo driving away. And
Chaney

18. but that was because I was on an inner position, feet away from
him.
You're explicitly trained that your eyes are always on the crowd,
surroundings and potential threats.
Never on the President themselves.
For obvious reasons...

19. Now my experience is entirely limited to official presidential
visits, which are planned at least months and in some cases a year in
advance.
It's likely that some of the breakdowns or issues I mentioned can be exponentially increased when it comes to campaign trips

20. as these stops can come up or change on very short notice.

https://x.com/LtTimMcMillan/status/1812383798740324380

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On Sun, 14 Jul 2024, JAB wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 11:48:20 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Looking forward to the US
leaving all stupid climate treaties!

The Rs have taken the position that "our viewpoints" are righteous,
and fuck you science.

But behind the scenes, they are supporting polluting industries, who
are providing funding for their elections.

No, they are supporting industries who provide jobs to people. That is
very important. Eco-fascism will result in a world collapse and return to medieval living conditions.

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On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 00:14:07 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Eco-fascism will result in a world collapse and return to
medieval living conditions.

What's wrong with that...isn't that what those bible thumpers want?

Eco-fascism will result in a world collapse

I believe China has created new jobs via enviromental based policies.

June 2024

Environmental regulation and employment: Evidence from China's new Environmental Protection Law

Realizing environmental protection and employment stability when
facing strict environmental regulations is an essential issue of
concern for many developing countries, including China.
...
...
The Chinese government has implemented stringent environmental
regulation policies, significantly improving environmental problems.
...
...
We found that at the macro level, the new EPL can promote the flow of
labor from polluting industries to cleaner industries; through the
spontaneous flow of labor, it realizes the reconfiguration of the
labor structure between industries and promotes the transformation and upgrading of the industrial structure. This government-led
environmental regulation ultimately realizes spontaneous labor
mobility under market dominance, which may eliminate some
backward-capacity enterprises in the long run and force some polluting enterprises to realize enterprise transformation and upgrading through innovation, similar to the supply-side structural reform policy that
China is currently vigorously promoting.


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0313592624000742

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On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 00:14:41 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Amazing! That's a true leader!

Still confusing Hollywood actors with real life characters?

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On 2024-07-14, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Amazing! That's a true leader!

I'm enjoying the sycophancy. Carry on, it's entertaining.

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On 2024-07-14, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Yep, our leader just won the election! =) Looking forward to the US
leaving all stupid climate treaties!

Do tell: I'm interested in knowing why you would like to leave stupid
climate treaties. What's your position? If we do so, what will we/you
lose or gain?

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On 2024-07-14, Auric Hellman <adhellman1@gmail.com> wrote:

On 7/14/2024 4:37 AM, Blueshirt wrote:

JAB wrote:

things could change. Nothing is guaranteed in politics.

Well, unprecedented amounts of stultifying horse shit, that's one thing
that's guaranteed. Trump invites a full-on insurrection and has
peckerwood rednecks climbing the walls of Congress trying to hang Mike
Pence. Republicans go totally silent. "It was just a misunderstanding.
They were on a tour trip."

After this tragic event, Republicans are loudly outraged that Biden
incited violence.

Good fucking Lord, the hypocricy, mendacity, and bare-faced crassness is outrageous. We need a better political class. The one we've got is
wholly overrun with the garbage of the universe.

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Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> writes:

Trump invites a full-on insurrection and has peckerwood rednecks
climbing the walls of Congress trying to hang Mike Pence.
Republicans go totally silent. "It was just a misunderstanding.
They were on a tour trip."

After this tragic event, Republicans are loudly outraged that Biden
incited violence.

Good fucking Lord, the hypocricy, mendacity, and bare-faced crassness is outrageous. We need a better political class. The one we've got is
wholly overrun with the garbage of the universe.

Not all po' white trash is po'.

--
Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

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On Sun, 14 Jul 2024, JAB wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 00:14:07 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Eco-fascism will result in a world collapse and return to
medieval living conditions.

What's wrong with that...isn't that what those bible thumpers want?

I do not believe so.

Eco-fascism will result in a world collapse

I believe China has created new jobs via enviromental based policies.

China is the world biggest emmiter of CO2 and user of coal power, so yeah,
you are probably right. The CO2 restrictions is a european lie which turd
world countries are using to damage western values, and the US has bought
the lie.

Trump wil rectify that however, and then growth and prosperity will come
back. =)

June 2024

Environmental regulation and employment: Evidence from China's new Environmental Protection Law

Realizing environmental protection and employment stability when
facing strict environmental regulations is an essential issue of
concern for many developing countries, including China.
...
...
The Chinese government has implemented stringent environmental
regulation policies, significantly improving environmental problems.
...
...
We found that at the macro level, the new EPL can promote the flow of
labor from polluting industries to cleaner industries; through the spontaneous flow of labor, it realizes the reconfiguration of the
labor structure between industries and promotes the transformation and upgrading of the industrial structure. This government-led
environmental regulation ultimately realizes spontaneous labor
mobility under market dominance, which may eliminate some
backward-capacity enterprises in the long run and force some polluting enterprises to realize enterprise transformation and upgrading through innovation, similar to the supply-side structural reform policy that
China is currently vigorously promoting.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0313592624000742

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On Mon, 15 Jul 2024, Retrograde wrote:

On 2024-07-14, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Yep, our leader just won the election! =) Looking forward to the US
leaving all stupid climate treaties!

Do tell: I'm interested in knowing why you would like to leave stupid
climate treaties. What's your position? If we do so, what will we/you
lose or gain?

I will gain due to increased industry and prosperity which will increase
the value of my investments.

I will also gain freedom. In my part of the world, politicians want voters
to live like serfs in medieval conditions, while they are allowed to fly private jet around the world.

If US where to leave all stupid climate treaties, more countries will
leave, and then we can usher in a new era of wealth creation and
prosperity, and it will be proven that climate change was nothing but a
hoax created to give all power to politicians.

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On Mon, 15 Jul 2024, Retrograde wrote:

On 2024-07-14, Auric Hellman <adhellman1@gmail.com> wrote:

On 7/14/2024 4:37 AM, Blueshirt wrote:

JAB wrote:

things could change. Nothing is guaranteed in politics.

Well, unprecedented amounts of stultifying horse shit, that's one thing that's guaranteed. Trump invites a full-on insurrection and has
peckerwood rednecks climbing the walls of Congress trying to hang Mike
Pence. Republicans go totally silent. "It was just a misunderstanding.
They were on a tour trip."

After this tragic event, Republicans are loudly outraged that Biden
incited violence.

Good fucking Lord, the hypocricy, mendacity, and bare-faced crassness is outrageous. We need a better political class. The one we've got is
wholly overrun with the garbage of the universe.

Agree! That's why we have Trump to clean up and drain the swamp! =)

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On Mon, 15 Jul 2024, Retrograde wrote:

On 2024-07-14, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Amazing! That's a true leader!

I'm enjoying the sycophancy. Carry on, it's entertaining.

He is your leader too! Wake up and seek his forgiveness before it is too
late!

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On Sun, 14 Jul 2024, JAB wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 00:14:41 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Amazing! That's a true leader!

Still confusing Hollywood actors with real life characters?

No, Trump is a real person! Ask your neighbour he will confirm! =) And if
you repent, he will forgive you too when he moves into the white house.

For his enemies however, justice will be swift and powerful.

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On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:27:27 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Do tell: I'm interested in knowing why you would like to leave stupid
climate treaties. What's your position? If we do so, what will we/you
lose or gain?

I will gain due to increased industry and prosperity which will increase
the value of my investments.

Speculation, as more Eco-shit hits the fan, there will be more massive
losses. Insurance companies have been increasing rates, or leaving a
state, due to an increase in environmental disasters.

Consult with insurance industry, they have the stats where eco-shit
hits/pours.

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On 2024-07-15, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jul 2024, Retrograde wrote:

On 2024-07-14, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Amazing! That's a true leader!

I'm enjoying the sycophancy. Carry on, it's entertaining.

He is your leader too! Wake up and seek his forgiveness before it is too late!

No, sorry. He's just a real estate dude with two impeachments, a bunch
of felonies, and a lot of bad debt.

I'm a little worried about you using the phrase "seek his forgiveness"
though. I'm going to assume you're just yanking my chain. Although
QAnon must be around here someplace, statistically speaking.

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On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 19:10:02 -0000 (UTC), Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:

He's just a real estate dude with two impeachments, a bunch
of felonies, and a lot of bad debt.

Amen - used to express solemn ratification (as of an expression of
faith) or hearty approval (as of an assertion).

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On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:27:27 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

I will gain due to increased industry and prosperity which will increase
the value of my investments.

What is being overlooked by those supporting the "good ole boy"
industries who support conservative politicians is the cost to society
as these devastating weather events happen more/more. ============================================================

May 17, 2024 - Deadly Houston windstorm estimated to have caused $5B
to $7B in damage, AccuWeather tells ABC13

Hurricane Beryl caused over $2.5 billion in wind damage...
FOX Weather

AccuWeather estimates Beryl will ultimately lead to $28-32 billion in
economic losses in the US https://abc13.com/post/hurricane-beryl-damage-cost-accuweather-estimates-economic-loss/15048656/
=============================================================

Republicans have not factored in the cost to society....egocentric
reasoning on their part.

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On Mon, 15 Jul 2024, JAB wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:27:27 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Do tell: I'm interested in knowing why you would like to leave stupid
climate treaties. What's your position? If we do so, what will we/you
lose or gain?

I will gain due to increased industry and prosperity which will increase
the value of my investments.

Speculation, as more Eco-shit hits the fan, there will be more massive losses. Insurance companies have been increasing rates, or leaving a
state, due to an increase in environmental disasters.

Consult with insurance industry, they have the stats where eco-shit hits/pours.

No, fact. You don't think traditional industries would gain if all
penalties and eco-taxes on them are removed? Basic economic science tells
us they will earn greatly.

As for the insurance industry, it's very little money, and if you happen
to live in a bad place, move. There's no unalienable right that you should
be allowed to live where you live without any changes for the rest of your natural life.

In my case, insurance premiums have probably increased in line with
inflation, and I thank our eco-fascist politicians for the excessive
inflation I've experienced.

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On Mon, 15 Jul 2024, Retrograde wrote:

On 2024-07-15, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jul 2024, Retrograde wrote:

On 2024-07-14, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Amazing! That's a true leader!

I'm enjoying the sycophancy. Carry on, it's entertaining.

He is your leader too! Wake up and seek his forgiveness before it is too
late!

No, sorry. He's just a real estate dude with two impeachments, a bunch
of felonies, and a lot of bad debt.

I'm a little worried about you using the phrase "seek his forgiveness" though. I'm going to assume you're just yanking my chain. Although
QAnon must be around here someplace, statistically speaking.

Yes, there could be a small amount of chain janking, but the fact that you detect it does make it less fun to yank it. ;)

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On Mon, 15 Jul 2024, JAB wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:27:27 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

I will gain due to increased industry and prosperity which will increase
the value of my investments.

What is being overlooked by those supporting the "good ole boy"
industries who support conservative politicians is the cost to society
as these devastating weather events happen more/more. ============================================================

May 17, 2024 - Deadly Houston windstorm estimated to have caused $5B
to $7B in damage, AccuWeather tells ABC13

Hurricane Beryl caused over $2.5 billion in wind damage...
FOX Weather

AccuWeather estimates Beryl will ultimately lead to $28-32 billion in economic losses in the US https://abc13.com/post/hurricane-beryl-damage-cost-accuweather-estimates-economic-loss/15048656/
=============================================================

Republicans have not factored in the cost to society....egocentric
reasoning on their part.

No, there's no proof of climate being affected by that. It's solar cycles
and natural phenomena. Should there be any effects, we're well equipped to handle that where it is needed. Completely unnecessary to lock down the
entire planet, reducing everyones quality of life to medieval times.

Much better to focus on a few hotspots, and let people move where they
will.

The idea that the climate should be static and that people should live
exactly where they are living now, forever, is deeply flawed and not at a single point in history, have people not moved around. Moving around to
where the weather is best at the moment, is natural and it is how we solve problems with changing living areas.

As for beryl, sure, but there were costs historically too, and that's a
great incentive to move away, or reinforce your home if you insist on
staying in hurricane territory.

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Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

I'm not on Twitter and I don't care much for Elon Musk either
BUT on reflection, how is it that the Secret Service didn't spot
a man with a rifle on a roof? Surely they are positioned on
other roofs surveying the area around where the ex-President was
speaking?

They saw him 1/2 hour before he started shooting. He was obviously allowed
to take his shots. Trump could get us into WWIII with Russia, so obviously
the good people in government like Obama and Hillary had to do SOMETHING.

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Oregonian Haruspex wrote:

Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

I'm not on Twitter and I don't care much for Elon Musk either
BUT on reflection, how is it that the Secret Service didn't
spot a man with a rifle on a roof? Surely they are
positioned on other roofs surveying the area around where
the ex-President was speaking?

They saw him 1/2 hour before he started shooting. He was
obviously allowed to take his shots. Trump could get us into
WWIII with Russia, so obviously the good people in government
like Obama and Hillary had to do SOMETHING.

Well, they should have found a better excuse than "putting a man
on the roof was a health and safety risk as the roof was sloped"
then!

Conspiracies are a serious business and they need to be taken
very seriously. If you're going to do a cover-up try not to come
up with an excuse for your 'mistakes' [nudge-nudge,
wink-wink] that's just gonna have everyone pissing their pants
with laughter!

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Trump campaign releases letter on his injury, treatment after last
week's assassination attempt
....
...
The memo, from Texas Rep. Ronny Jackson, a staunch supporter who
served as Trump's White House physician
...
...
According to Jackson....2 cm wide wound that extended down to the
cartilaginous surface of the ear.
....
....
Trump was initially treated by medical staff at Butler Memorial
Hospital.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-ronny-jackson-shooting-medical-report-e95a2888cd5eeb64820d6fa789b03463
====================

I want the hospital's findings, not Ronny Jackson's

2cm = 0.79"

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On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 10:39:50 -0500, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

According to Jackson....2 cm wide wound that extended down to the >cartilaginous surface of the ear.

Jackson was not the treating physician. Jackson no longer has a
medical license. This is absurd. https://x.com/juliettekayyem/status/1814776860309623091

Jackson's letter: pic
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GS9DPoma4AAGr0c.jpg

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On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 18:48:06 -0400, Auric Hellman
<adhellman1@gmail.com> wrote:

As it stands today, yes. Election day is till almost 4 months away; much
can happen in 4 months. If some disaster occurs between now and then >(terrorist attack?, natural disaster?) and Biden handles it with aplomb, >things could change. Nothing is guaranteed in politics.

If some disaster occurs

"Vice President Kamala Harris is now the most likely replacement for
President Joe Biden after he dropped out of the 2024 race Sunday and
endorsed her---triggering a rushed competition among the Democratic
Party's rising stars to become her running mate."

Trump has to watch his speech now unless he wants to piss off female
voters. His worse nightmare...

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On 2024-07-21, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

If some disaster occurs

"Vice President Kamala Harris is now the most likely replacement for President Joe Biden after he dropped out of the 2024 race Sunday and
endorsed her---triggering a rushed competition among the Democratic
Party's rising stars to become her running mate."

Trump has to watch his speech now unless he wants to piss off female
voters. His worse nightmare...

Any female voter who chooses that orange haired clown over a competent
female contender deserves ... well, bad things for sure. White
Christian Nationalist bitches, smarten up and vote right, ya
self-righteous c*nts.

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On 2024-07-21, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 10:39:50 -0500, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

According to Jackson....2 cm wide wound that extended down to the >>cartilaginous surface of the ear.

That's not what I heard. I heard he got shot right in the pussy.

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On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 02:07:55 -0000 (UTC), Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:

Any female voter who chooses that orange haired clown

Is clueless....

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