Kevin Roberts, architect of Project 2025, has close ties to radical
Catholic group Opus Dei

Heritage Foundation leader has long received spiritual guidance from
group and his policy goals align with its teachings

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/26/kevin-roberts-project-2025-opus-dei

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On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 07:21:49 -0500, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

Kevin Roberts, architect of Project 2025, has close ties to radical
Catholic group Opus Dei

Heritage Foundation leader has long received spiritual guidance from
group and his policy goals align with its teachings

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/26/kevin-roberts-project-2025-opus-dei

Let's see, Roe v. Wade was eliminated with bullshit rhetoric via
Supreme Court members, who are Catholic.

In previous days,
"Catholics were the most vocal opponents of Sanger's movement to
liberalize birth control in the 1920s...."
and
"For decades, religious conservatives have wanted to overturn Roe and
return abortion laws to state legislatures."

And interestingly,

"Their efforts were unceremoniously rebuffed by Justice Harry A.
Blackmun, author of the majority opinion in Roe, who argued that fetal personhood was nowhere to be found in the Constitution and that, in
any case, the Court had no authority to rule on a matter that was
unresolved among religious scholars and biologists. Crucially,
however, Blackmun acknowledged that if the concept of "person" could
somehow be construed to apply to the unborn, then no one could
legitimately deny due process and equal protection rights to
fetuses--and the case for abortion rights would "collapse."

https://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/the-anti-abortion-movement-and-the-ghost-of-margaret-sanger/

Hence, SCOTUS has introduced a Catholic belief

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Project 2025 leader resigns from conservative think tank

The director of Project 2025 - a controversial policy blueprint for
the next Republican administration - has stepped down from his role at
the conservative Heritage Foundation think tank.

Project 2025, a 900-plus-page proposal, featured sweeping governmental
reforms including expanding the powers of the US president and
eliminating thousands of civil servants.
...
...
Trump has repeatedly disavowed Project 2025, though critics point out
it is led by his former administration officials.
...
...
Among its proposals are dismantling the Department of Education and
the Department of Homeland Security; bringing the entire federal
bureaucracy under direct presidential control; slashing federal money
for research and investment in renewable energy; halting sales of the
abortion pill, and sweeping tax cuts

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpe3kx3vgd1o

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On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 15:08:16 -0500, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

Project 2025
Among its proposals are dismantling the Department of Education

Is this a Catholic wish, or conservatives wanting to give a bigger
tax break for the wealthy/corporations?

"K-12 schools nationwide receive $119.1 billion total or $2,400 per
pupil from the federal government.," so the states would have to foot
the total bill for their educational system. And state taxpayers
would have to make up the difference.

https://educationdata.org/public-education-spending-statistics

Project 2025
and sweeping tax cuts

At the federal level...states would have to increase their tax rates.

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On Wed, 31 Jul 2024 10:54:50 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

If all schools are privatized, they will become more efficient, and be
able to deliver more for less.

In US, there are privatized prisons



Are Private Prisons More Cost-Effective Than Public Prisons? A
Meta-Analysis of Evaluation Research Studies
...
...
The results revealed that private prisons were no more cost-effective
than public prisons, and that other institutional
characteristics--such as the facility's economy of scale, age, and
security level--were the strongest predictors of a prison's daily per
diem cost.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0011128799045003004

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On Tue, 30 Jul 2024, JAB wrote:

On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 15:08:16 -0500, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

Project 2025
Among its proposals are dismantling the Department of Education

Is this a Catholic wish, or conservatives wanting to give a bigger
tax break for the wealthy/corporations?

"K-12 schools nationwide receive $119.1 billion total or $2,400 per
pupil from the federal government.," so the states would have to foot
the total bill for their educational system. And state taxpayers
would have to make up the difference.

https://educationdata.org/public-education-spending-statistics

Project 2025
and sweeping tax cuts

At the federal level...states would have to increase their tax rates.

Remember that those 2400 would go back to the people, so they can then
choose to pay that for schooling.

If all schools are privatized, they will become more efficient, and be
able to deliver more for less.

I work in private education, and I can say that public and private schools receive the same amount of money per student where I work. The public
schools often run at a loss, but the private ones, not only deliver better
with higher quality, they also manage to deliver a profit.

This is the power of the market!

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On Wed, 31 Jul 2024, JAB wrote:

On Wed, 31 Jul 2024 10:54:50 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

If all schools are privatized, they will become more efficient, and be
able to deliver more for less.

In US, there are privatized prisons

Are Private Prisons More Cost-Effective Than Public Prisons? A
Meta-Analysis of Evaluation Research Studies
...
...
The results revealed that private prisons were no more cost-effective
than public prisons, and that other institutional
characteristics--such as the facility's economy of scale, age, and
security level--were the strongest predictors of a prison's daily per
diem cost.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0011128799045003004

Well, what's missing here is a private market, obviously.

https://mises.org/mises-wire/dont-confuse-private-prisons-free-market-prisons
.

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On Wed, 31 Jul 2024, JAB wrote:

On Wed, 31 Jul 2024 10:54:50 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

If all schools are privatized, they will become more efficient, and be
able to deliver more for less.

In US, there are privatized prisons

Are Private Prisons More Cost-Effective Than Public Prisons? A
Meta-Analysis of Evaluation Research Studies
...
...
The results revealed that private prisons were no more cost-effective
than public prisons, and that other institutional
characteristics--such as the facility's economy of scale, age, and
security level--were the strongest predictors of a prison's daily per
diem cost.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0011128799045003004

Found this:

"A 2016 article by Anastasia Glushko (a former worker in the private
prison sector[4]) argues in favor of privately owned prisons in Australia. According to Glushko, private prisons in Australia have decreased the
costs of holding prisoners and increased positive relationships between
inmates and correctional workers. Outsourcing prison services to private companies has allowed for costs to be cut in half. Compared with $270 a
day in a government-run West Australian jail, each prisoner in the
privately operated Acacia Prison near Perth costs the taxpayer $182.
Glushko also says positive prisoner treatment was observed during
privatisation in Australia by including more respectful attitudes to
prisoners and mentoring schemes, increased out-of-cell time and more
purposeful activities.[5]".

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On Wed, 31 Jul 2024 21:58:10 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Well, what's missing here is a private market, obviously.

Upshot of any business getting into private school/prison is pay the
workers less, so CEOs/shareholders/etc feast on those dollars.

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On Wed, 31 Jul 2024 22:00:21 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Found this:

"A 2016 article by Anastasia Glushko (a former worker in the private
prison sector[4]) argues

She is also a social climber...."a former worker".....here she is now,
making her bread/butter

https://www.whynotyouproject.com/about

She said, "Privately-operated prisons are more accountable,..." https://www.cis.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/32-1-glushko-anastasia.pdf


Evidence suggests that lower staffing levels and training at private
facilities may lead to increases in the incidence of violence and
escapes. A nationwide study found that assaults on guards by inmates
were 49 percent more frequent in private prisons than in
government-run prisons. The same study revealed that assaults on
fellow inmates were 65 percent more frequent in private prisons.[117]


A study by the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics found that the
cost-savings promised by private prisons "have simply not
materialized"


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_prison

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JAB wrote:
Kevin Roberts, architect of Project 2025, has close ties to radical
Catholic group Opus Dei

Heritage Foundation leader has long received spiritual guidance

from

group and his policy goals align with its teachings

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/26/kevin-roberts-project-2025-opus-dei

The
problem with Catholicism many people still believe it is Christianity
101. Because of the Crusades and even sad, the obvious association
with White-Supremacy. With many people who quote these things as part
of their upbringing. The reality the corruption of the Catholic Church
is ignore entirely.

Instead we are left with nutjob family members. As in "Bad Boy
Bubby" where you see a traditional Catholic family values.
As with Judaism, "If a child was to commit wrong, then that
family member ruins it for there parents". Which is insane within
itself. The idea your child should affect your ability to move on to
the after-life, is insane. This is why many Catholic families will
disown there children.

A bigger problem is that people within Christianity does not even
understand the entirety of there own faith. Because while we might
have parents who was raised in religious families, they themselves do
not take it a step further or have little or no understanding of their
own religion at all. It does not mean your not a Christian, it just
means your head of household is that child who went to church but
never read and or just was bored with the whole thing. A perfect
breeding ground for LGBT and especially Lesbians.

When Christians are targets of other religions ( Especially J-u-e-s )
because without any understanding these people on purposely will
sabotage your life. They will make your life hard just because your
not apart of there flock. Within the ranks of Catholicism are nutjobs
who are predators. They make life miserable for Christians who are not Catholic. By that the ability to be educated and ability to gain
income. Thus the confusion with discrimination itself.

Queen Mary ( Bloody Mary ) literally believed she was Mary from the
story of Baby Jesus. Because of this mentality in her mind, she
brought back the Catholic Church to England, due to the twisted idea
the "Universal Church" was the apex and origin of
Christianity in terms of Peter, and Paul. That is the mistake of
Catholicism.

Catholicism is literally an extension of the Roman Empire, corrupted
by Pagans, while it might have carried the Christian word with it for
many years, the corruption is what formed various congregations. Real Christianity was when Christ was on Earth to the death of Paul. What
happen afterwards was a very damaged variant of Christianity forward
by the "Little-Ice-age" and the "Black Plague".
The insanity of these leftover people and "abuse of the
word" is what kept anything resembling Christianity going. Of
course corruption from J-u-e's and Arabic leaders slowly integrating
into European shores.

Christianity is a form of Judaism that was rejected. Stephen was
stoned by the council due them fearing losing there positions of
power. The hate towards Christians was more or less a disruption of
Judaism power structure being deconstructed. The fear losing there
power and positions over "the word"


This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=670800672#670800672

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On Wed, 31 Jul 2024, JAB wrote:

On Wed, 31 Jul 2024 21:58:10 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Well, what's missing here is a private market, obviously.

Upshot of any business getting into private school/prison is pay the
workers less, so CEOs/shareholders/etc feast on those dollars.

This is incorrect. Yoy pay them market rates or you will discover that
there is no one to hire.

Say, you have never run your own company right? ;)

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On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 10:52:27 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Upshot of any business getting into private school/prison is pay the
workers less, so CEOs/shareholders/etc feast on those dollars.

This is incorrect. Yoy pay them market rates or you will discover that
there is no one to hire.

In these parts, hourly pay is not directly related to benefits (health
policy, retirement program, etc). Sure, a company might pay more per
hour, but have "cheaper" benefits. Years ago, a Kodak plant in
Colorado paid lower wages, but their benefits were quite good.

I might add when shareholders are involved, they increase the business
cost forever. For instance, when a government builds a building, its
paid for via taxpayers or bonds, but with shareholders' money, the
building never gets paid off.

Market rate tends to be associated with goods or services, btw

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On Thu, 1 Aug 2024, JAB wrote:

On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 10:52:27 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Upshot of any business getting into private school/prison is pay the
workers less, so CEOs/shareholders/etc feast on those dollars.

This is incorrect. Yoy pay them market rates or you will discover that
there is no one to hire.

In these parts, hourly pay is not directly related to benefits (health policy, retirement program, etc). Sure, a company might pay more per
hour, but have "cheaper" benefits. Years ago, a Kodak plant in
Colorado paid lower wages, but their benefits were quite good.

I might add when shareholders are involved, they increase the business
cost forever. For instance, when a government builds a building, its
paid for via taxpayers or bonds, but with shareholders' money, the
building never gets paid off.

Market rate tends to be associated with goods or services, btw

Yes?

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On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 22:08:11 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Yes?

Private sector can work just fine in select endeavors, and where
multiple vendors exist to keep pricing in check.

Too many capitalists like to think like Don Quixote, "no limits but
the sky" and screw the consumers/etc.
===================


Private water utilities charge families 59% more on their water bills
than public utilities, on average. In some areas, it's even worse.

Food & Water Watch did a survey of 500 municipal water systems -- the
largest survey of its kind -- and found that public utilities charge
an average of $315.56 per year for a typical household. Private water
utilities averaged $500.96 --- an increase of 59%. https://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/2016/02/16/privatized-water-costs-more-than-public-water/

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On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 22:08:11 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Yes?

Shareholders need to be removed from this paradigm since in time it
represents a welfare system for mostly the affluent/etc.

It's better to pay off bonds than pay over/over shareholders.

Shareholders are like Leeches, so to speak...Leeches wanting a free
lunch, year after year.

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On Fri, 2 Aug 2024, JAB wrote:

On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 22:08:11 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Yes?

Private sector can work just fine in select endeavors, and where
multiple vendors exist to keep pricing in check.

Too many capitalists like to think like Don Quixote, "no limits but
the sky" and screw the consumers/etc.
===================

Private water utilities charge families 59% more on their water bills
than public utilities, on average. In some areas, it's even worse.

Food & Water Watch did a survey of 500 municipal water systems -- the
largest survey of its kind -- and found that public utilities charge
an average of $315.56 per year for a typical household. Private water utilities averaged $500.96 --- an increase of 59%. https://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/2016/02/16/privatized-water-costs-more-than-public-water/

We need not fear monopolies! Just have a look at this:

https://fee.org/articles/how-the-free-market-handles-monopoly/ ! =)

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On Fri, 2 Aug 2024, JAB wrote:

On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 22:08:11 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Yes?

Shareholders need to be removed from this paradigm since in time it represents a welfare system for mostly the affluent/etc.

It's better to pay off bonds than pay over/over shareholders.

Shareholders are like Leeches, so to speak...Leeches wanting a free
lunch, year after year.

Incorrect. They supply the capital in return for ownership and potential returns on their investments. They also, ultimately bear the risk. They
are the unsung heroes of the world best governance system! =)

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On Sat, 3 Aug 2024 14:11:21 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Shareholders are like Leeches, so to speak...Leeches wanting a free
lunch, year after year.

Incorrect. n return for ownership and potential
returns on their investments.

Corrected - "They supply the initial capital..."

After some point in time, they become leeches whose shares should have
been bought back by the company.

Google, for instance, could have done it years ago.

Google's IPO day, 2004 - 1.7 Billion https://x.com/historyinmemes/status/1818199853341589855

Alphabet Shares Outstanding 2010-2024

Alphabet shares outstanding for the quarter ending March 31, 2024
were 13.396B, a 2.26% decline year-over-year.

Alphabet 2023 shares outstanding were 13.599B, a 3.18% decline
from 2022.
Alphabet 2022 shares outstanding were 14.046B, a 2.88% decline
from 2021.
Alphabet 2021 shares outstanding were 14.462B, a 1.38% decline
from 2020.

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/GOOGL/alphabet/shares-outstanding

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On Sat, 3 Aug 2024 14:10:27 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

We need not fear monopolies! Just have a look at this:

My previous unspoken point was shareholders' dividends increase the
cost of doing business. So when a private sector company with
shareholders operates a school/prison, they can't compete with a
government based school/prison. Additionally, a private sector
company must pay taxes, generally, unless federal/state exemptions
exist. .

We need not fear monopolies!

Currently, just those internet based computer programmers who are
basing a price on this/that factor. For instance, a regular customer
may pay more or less for a product, depending upon the program.

monopolies!

In most/all US states, power companies, land based telephone
companies, etc., are regulated.

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On Sat, 3 Aug 2024, JAB wrote:

On Sat, 3 Aug 2024 14:11:21 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Shareholders are like Leeches, so to speak...Leeches wanting a free
lunch, year after year.

Incorrect. n return for ownership and potential
returns on their investments.

Corrected - "They supply the initial capital..."

No, you can choose to take in additional capital, but usually that's a
danger sign.

After some point in time, they become leeches whose shares should have
been bought back by the company.

Incorrect. They are the owners of the company. I think you must study to
learn about private property and economics. You seem to have very weird
ideas about the modern economy that stray into marxist territory. Marxism
has been disproven many, many times, and is seen as something similar to alchemy or astrology.

Google, for instance, could have done it years ago.

It is up to the owners to decide in an unregulated economy. If you
disagree, buy shares and state your case. If it makes business sense, and
if you are good enough at persuation, you'll be golden.

Google's IPO day, 2004 - 1.7 Billion https://x.com/historyinmemes/status/1818199853341589855

Alphabet Shares Outstanding 2010-2024

Alphabet shares outstanding for the quarter ending March 31, 2024
were 13.396B, a 2.26% decline year-over-year.

Alphabet 2023 shares outstanding were 13.599B, a 3.18% decline
from 2022.
Alphabet 2022 shares outstanding were 14.046B, a 2.88% decline
from 2021.
Alphabet 2021 shares outstanding were 14.462B, a 1.38% decline
from 2020.

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/GOOGL/alphabet/shares-outstanding

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On Sat, 3 Aug 2024, JAB wrote:

On Sat, 3 Aug 2024 14:10:27 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

We need not fear monopolies! Just have a look at this:

My previous unspoken point was shareholders' dividends increase the
cost of doing business. So when a private sector company with
shareholders operates a school/prison, they can't compete with a
government based school/prison. Additionally, a private sector
company must pay taxes, generally, unless federal/state exemptions
exist. .

We need not fear monopolies!

Currently, just those internet based computer programmers who are
basing a price on this/that factor. For instance, a regular customer
may pay more or less for a product, depending upon the program.

monopolies!

In most/all US states, power companies, land based telephone
companies, etc., are regulated.

Ok, I'll revise. We only need to fear one monopoly and that is the
government with a monopoly on violence.

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On Sun, 4 Aug 2024 11:10:58 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

If it makes business sense,

Shareholders in time are a liability...wasting assets.

Now, back to schools/prisons.....Business sense wise (bean counters)
for a given infrastructure, input costs will be similar, but employee
total benefits will be less when run by a private sector company.

What's that old saying, pay a CEO more in good and bad times. When
government run, no such nonsense reasoning..

Entrepreneurs wanting to take over government based employees in schools/prisons are like a big bull taking milk from his mother, and
need a ring in their nose. They are suppose to go out and create
their own business model, not raid the chicken coop for golden eggs.

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On Sun, 4 Aug 2024 11:10:58 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Incorrect. They are the owners of the company.

Hawaiian Electric agrees to pay about half of $4 billion Maui wildfire settlement

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/hawaiian-electric-others-agree-4-bln-maui-wildfire-settlement-2024-08-03/

Where is this money going to come from...not the shareholders'
pockets.

Owners you say.....get real.

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