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    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 4 18:04:20 2024
    Elon Musks America PAC for Trump is under CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION by
    the Michigan AG for potentially defrauding voters.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/04/elon-musk-pac-investigated-michigan.html

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Mon Aug 5 00:50:03 2024
    On 2024-08-04, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:
    Elon Musks America PAC for Trump is under CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION by
    the Michigan AG for potentially defrauding voters.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/04/elon-musk-pac-investigated-michigan.html

    From the article:

    "To be sure, legal experts could not point to any state laws that may
    have been broken by the PAC."

    Looks like the usual combination of theatrical politics, billionaire shitposting, and a ravenous media eager for clicks.

    This country sucks.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 4 20:38:54 2024
    On 05 Aug 2024 00:50:03 GMT, Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid>
    wrote:

    Looks like the usual combination of theatrical politics, billionaire >shitposting, and a ravenous media eager for clicks.

    Michigan Attorney General is a lesbian woman, but her track record
    suggests she supports the public interest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_Nessel

    But, she is not involved, Michigan's secretary of state's office is
    suggesting law violations might be possible.

    "To be sure, legal experts could not point to any state laws
    that may have been broken by the PAC."

    We don't know if they saw what the AG saw.

    Key point - The Musk-backed America PAC has been acquiring detailed
    voter information from those living in Michigan and other states after
    people have submitted their personal data through a section on the
    PAC's website that says "register to vote," CNBC reported earlier. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-backed-pac-under-investigation-potential-violations-michigan-laws-2024-08-04/

    "register to vote,"

    Why Musk is involved, is beyond me.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 5 19:56:56 2024
    On 05 Aug 2024 00:50:03 GMT, Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid>
    wrote:

    Looks like

    Crucially, the PAC's voter registration page didn't work properly and
    still doesn't work. No one using it would be registered to vote. The
    concern here is that residents of Michigan, a contested battleground
    state, as well as people in other swing states, might think they've
    registered to vote via this website, only to discover too late that
    they're not.

    The purported voter registration page invited people to enter their
    personal information. "It takes less than two minutes to register!"
    the page reads.

    After submitting an email address and ZIP code on that page, the site
    loads an additional form that asks for your name, email (pre-filled
    from the prior form), cell phone, address, city, state, and postal
    code (pre-filled from the prior form).

    Clicking on the "Proceed" button then loads a message referencing the
    state associated with the provided ZIP code. For example: "Thank you
    for taking the first step to register to vote in MICHIGAN. Please
    complete the form below and we will help you complete your
    registration."

    Except there's no form loaded below this message. And no voter
    registration took place.

    https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/05/michigan_election_officials_probe_website/

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 5 21:10:53 2024
    On 05 Aug 2024 00:50:03 GMT, Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid>
    wrote:

    Looks like

    North Carolina election board investigates Elon Musk's pro-Trump PAC
    after voter data complaint
    ...
    The North Carolina Attorney General's Office said Monday that it is
    eyeing a political action committee created by billionaire Elon Musk
    following a complaint to the state election board over the PAC's
    collection of personal data while failing to help users register to
    vote as promised
    ...
    "North Carolina law makes it a crime for someone to fail to submit a
    voter's registration form if that person has told a voter that they
    would be submitting the voter's registration form," the board's
    spokesman, Patrick Gannon, told CNBC.

    https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/business/money-report/north-carolina-ag-office-eyes-elon-musks-pro-trump-pac-after-voter-data-complaint/3479540/

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Aug 7 02:08:02 2024
    On 2024-08-06, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:
    The North Carolina Attorney General's Office said Monday that it is
    eyeing a political action committee created by billionaire Elon Musk following a complaint to the state election board over the PAC's
    collection of personal data while failing to help users register to
    vote as promised

    That idiot should've stuck to designing cars and kept his fat trap shut,
    and he would've gone down in history as a genius and savant. Instead he couldn't resist politics and will now go down in history as a recidivist shitposter and narcissistic windbag conspiracy peddler.

    Also a whiny, hateful bitch.

    PS Teslas suck as cars. Tell your friends.

    PPS his lawsuit against companies for refusing to advertise on his
    garbage website is doomed from day one. Whine more, bitch.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 7 11:37:40 2024
    On 07 Aug 2024 02:08:02 GMT, Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid>
    wrote:

    idiot

    He is a flawed person with a behavioral problem. He is like a bull in
    a china shop....and previously, did not listen to others.

    September 15, 2023

    Walter Isaacson's new biography 'Elon Musk' chronicles the
    billionaire's power struggle with the 'PayPal Mafia'
    ...
    ...
    Musk, who became CEO of PayPal when the new brand was formed after his
    online bank X.com merged with Confinity, was wearing out his welcome
    with colleagues in the summer of 2000 due to disputes about the
    direction of the company following the merger...
    ...
    ...
    Things came to a head when Musk's frustrated colleagues went behind
    his back to pull together a study that showed PayPal's brand was more
    valuable than X.com's, which drove a livid Musk to try to remove
    PayPal's branding from their website, Isaacson wrote.

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/elon-musk-dethroned-peter-thiel-coup-led-paypal-mafia

    X.com

    So, he was having a temper tantrum over X vs PayPal nomenclature, and
    not listening.

    "What's in a name?" So he buys Twitter and calls it X, without a
    rational reason for doing so.

    It's like this person is stuck in his teenage years, or younger,
    mentally.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 8 19:57:21 2024
    On 07 Aug 2024 02:08:02 GMT, Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid>
    wrote:

    That idiot

    He is fully aware of laws/regulations affecting his vehicle/rocket
    businesses, but he steps into social media world and is belligerent.

    Does he think X.com's R-rhetoric will have an election payoff?

    I suspect most voters are commited to a given canidate. I believe the independents are less influenced by social media, and listen to the news/issues.

    Before Biden stepped down:

    That landscape points to a very close presidential election, one that
    will likely be decided by very small margins in a handful of swing
    states. A primary task for both the Biden and Trump campaigns will be
    to mobilize their bases and maximize turnout among their most ardent supporters. But those bases will probably not be enough to ensure
    victory for either candidate. Both candidates will seek to convince
    voters who are still "in play" - namely, independent voters.

    https://theconversation.com/independent-voters-are-few-in-number-influential-in-close-elections-and-hard-for-campaigns-to-reach-231567

    I doubt Musk's efforts will affect this coming election

    Wiki - An independent is variously defined as a voter who votes for
    candidates on issues rather than on the basis of a political ideology
    or partisanship; a voter who does not have long-standing loyalty to,
    or identification with, a political party; a voter who does not
    usually vote for the same political party from election

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to kyonshi on Wed Aug 14 11:07:17 2024
    On 2024-08-09, kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
    the problem is that every time he touches Tesla cars directly with his "genius" he makes them worse. The whole Cybertruck debacle is mostly
    because he made engineers design a car of the future like he would have
    seen in some old movie, fit for the reality of post-apocalyptic America.
    Only there's a reason why those old cars in science fiction movies looked like that (budget limits) and there's a reason why most other cars don't
    look like it (practicality, legality, aesthetics...)

    Don't forget sound engineering, cost effectiveness, and reliable design.

    The cybertruck is one of the worst vehicles ever conjured up. Future generations are going to laugh about what a joke it was.

    $80,000 or more. Insane.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 14 11:23:05 2024
    On 14 Aug 2024 11:07:17 GMT, Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid>
    wrote:

    cybertruck...

    $80,000 or more. Insane.

    Cybertruck price hike: has Tesla abandoned affordability?

    While Elon Musk lists build quality and affordability as chief
    concerns, the still-flawed Cybertruck grows in both volume and price.

    On 10 August 2024, Tesla stopped selling the US$60,990 base edition of
    its Cybertruck pickup. The electric vehicle (EV) maker also confirmed
    via its website that its mid-range Cybertruck variant, the AWD, would
    see a US$20,000 price increase, taking it to US$99,900. In effect, the
    entry price for the Cybertruck series rose by US$39,000. The
    high-performance Cyberbeast, a tri-motor variant with boosted range,
    improved torque, and a higher top speed has also been raised by
    US$20,000 to US$119,990.

    https://www.automotiveworld.com/articles/cybertruck-price-hike-has-tesla-abandoned-affordability/

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