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  • Presidential Medal of Freedom

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 19 10:56:42 2024
    Q: Can you clarify your comments where you said the Presidential Medal
    of Freedom is much better than the Congressional Medal of Honor? Many
    veterans are upset about that

    Trump: I would rather get it. People who get the Congressional Medal
    of Honor are often horribly wounded or dead. They're often dead. When
    you get the Presidential Medal of Freedom it is usually for other
    things, like you have achieved great success...

    https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1825538529700487456

    Trump's reasoning is off the charts....

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to adhellman1@gmail.com on Mon Aug 19 21:37:23 2024
    On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 13:23:48 -0400, Auric Hellman
    <adhellman1@gmail.com> wrote:

    things, like you have achieved great success...

    https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1825538529700487456

    Trump's reasoning is off the charts...

    Strange as it may sound, he has a point. However, I doubt highly that is
    what he meant when he first said it.

    Success may have been reached with a pinch or more of serendipity. And
    the inverse is as Dr. John might say, "Right Place, Wrong Time"

    Heroism or being successful both require motivation, and both require
    relevant skill sets. But acting beyond the call of duty for assisting
    others is generally absent in successful persons.

    For instance, Drew Dennis Dix
    https://www.cmohs.org/recipients/drew-d-dix

    There are the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly successful persons, and more
    than a few have offended others/etc., on their way up.

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Aug 21 12:23:11 2024
    On 2024-08-19, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:
    Trump: I would rather get it. People who get the Congressional Medal
    of Honor are often horribly wounded or dead. They're often dead. When
    you get the Presidential Medal of Freedom it is usually for other
    things, like you have achieved great success...

    Trump's reasoning is off the charts....

    Hey give the sadsack a break. When it was time for him to serve his
    country back in the Vietnam War era, he was currently suffering extreme menstrual cramps and possibly bone spurs, which were very ouchy and
    sometimes made him cry. And that's why he was exempted from war.

    I heard he was given a YUGE medal for participation, as did everyone on
    his short little bus. The Presidential Medal of Pansy.

    To be fair though and in all seriousness, he's got a point that getting
    a medal in exchange for being killed is a poor trade.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 21 12:14:43 2024
    On 21 Aug 2024 12:23:11 GMT, Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid>
    wrote:

    things, like you have achieved great success...
    To be fair though..

    If a person has achieved great success, why do they need a medal?
    More icing on the cake?

    BTW, I believe Trump's reasoning was flawed...

    Presidential Medal of Freedom - to individuals who have made
    exceptional contributions to the security or national interests of
    America, to world peace, or to cultural or other significant public or
    private endeavors

    Trump stated - "When you get the Presidential Medal of Freedom it is
    usually for other things, like you have achieved great success."

    I don't believe Trump's idea of "great success" is related to the
    Presidential Medal of Freedom. "Great success" tends to be associated
    with an individual's achievement(s)...I'm not aware of Andrew Carnegie
    getting the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

    Note the "Freedom" word

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