• 1/4 mile of one inch wrought iron

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 21 20:00:09 2024
  • From Mike Spencer@21:1/5 to JAB on Thu Aug 22 17:56:52 2024
    JAB <here@is.invalid> writes:

    Jan 30, 2020

    Family duo takes wrought iron VW bug on famous Route 66

    https://windsorstar.com/news/local-news/family-duo-takes-wrought-iron-vw-bug-on-famous-route-66

    Pic https://smartcdn.gprod.postmedia.digital/windsorstar/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/beetle.jpg

    Oh dear. I love the eccentricity and stubborn persistence despite
    rain and road spatter. (Open-work fenders are problematic.) I'm a
    former VW mechanic and this is the weirdest VW I ever saw.

    But as an artist blacksmith, I find it kinda annoying.

    + It's all cold-bent, arc-welded steel rod. There's no forged
    ironwork at all. The scrolls are all the same with no interesting
    terminals. Great job matching the classic VW shape but boring
    metalwork.

    + And they (or the journalist) perpetrate the popular mistake of
    calling anything made from bent ferrous metal "wrought
    iron". Wrought iron is a particular form of iron, no longer an
    article of commerce and made in a now completely obsolete process.

    --
    Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere on Thu Aug 22 18:46:58 2024
    On 22 Aug 2024 17:56:52 -0300, Mike Spencer
    <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:

    wrought iron


    Wrought is the archaic form of "worked," the more commonly used past
    tense and past participle of work.

    Wrought iron, iron with a very low carbon content that has been
    wrought (hammered) by hand.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrought

    I'm a former VW mechanic

    As a summer high school job, I'm a former 'wash person' who took the
    wax off of those new VWs:-)

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  • From Mike Spencer@21:1/5 to JAB on Sat Aug 24 03:20:05 2024
    JAB <here@is.invalid> writes:

    On 22 Aug 2024 17:56:52 -0300, Mike Spencer
    <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:

    wrought iron


    Wrought is the archaic form of "worked," the more commonly used past
    tense and past participle of work.

    Wrought iron, iron with a very low carbon content that has been
    wrought (hammered) by hand.

    ...in the process of converting what comes out of the blast furnace into merchant bar. Both hand (heavy sledge) hammers and power hammers were
    used. In the US, the Saugus Ironworks was operational 30 years after
    the Mayflower landed at Plymouth. Used bog ore for the iron, hauled
    limestone from a distance for flux, had an infinite supply of trees
    for charcoal to fire the furnace and forges. Huge power hammer ran on
    water, used to beat the big,barely manageable lumps of iron into bar
    shape afted two or more rounds of belaboring it with sledge hammers.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrought

    I'm a former VW mechanic

    As a summer high school job, I'm a former 'wash person' who took the
    wax off of those new VWs:-)

    --
    Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere on Sat Aug 24 07:09:49 2024
    On 24 Aug 2024 03:20:05 -0300, Mike Spencer
    <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:

    Wrought is the archaic form of "worked," the more commonly used past
    tense and past participle of work.

    Wrought iron, iron with a very low carbon content that has been
    wrought (hammered) by hand.

    ...in the process of converting what comes out of the blast furnace into >merchant bar.

    When shaping one inch iron, I assume heat was used. If so, then
    another definition (redux) of wrought iron.

    OED says "There is one meaning in OED's entry for the noun wrought
    iron...OED's earliest evidence for wrought iron is from 1556. https://www.oed.com/dictionary/wrought-iron_n

    But, OED wants $100.00/yr for a subscription, so I don't know OED's defintion:-)

    Ngram Viewer (https://books.google.com/ngrams/ ) suggests "wrought
    iron" has been used mostly from 1800-2022

    Example - Comparing wrought iron with cast iron

    The Scots Magazine ... - Volumes 79-80 - Page 24
    1817
    ... wrought iron perfect through- out , and you trust at last to
    rivets in joining them , but cast iron boilers can be ... wrought iron
    you can only have of a certain thickness . " Mr William Brunton . "
    What in- jury do you think is ...

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to JAB on Sat Aug 24 14:37:39 2024
    JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:
    On 24 Aug 2024 03:20:05 -0300, Mike Spencer
    <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:

    Wrought is the archaic form of "worked," the more commonly used past
    tense and past participle of work.

    Wrought iron, iron with a very low carbon content that has been
    wrought (hammered) by hand.

    ...in the process of converting what comes out of the blast furnace into >merchant bar.

    When shaping one inch iron, I assume heat was used. If so, then
    another definition (redux) of wrought iron.

    OED says "There is one meaning in OED's entry for the noun wrought iron...OED's earliest evidence for wrought iron is from 1556. https://www.oed.com/dictionary/wrought-iron_n

    But, OED wants $100.00/yr for a subscription, so I don't know OED's defintion:-)

    Your library may have a subscription you can access. Anyway:


    "Originally: iron made in a forge or a puddling furnace, as opposed to being cast; iron of this nature in the form of a finished product. In later use: spec. iron made by melting pig iron so as to produce a metal containing
    little carbon and a small proportion of slag, which gives it a
    characteristic fibrous structure, used esp. for ornamental ironwork, often
    in a style characterized by scrollwork. Contrasted with cast iron.

    Wrought iron is noted for being malleable, ductile, and resistant to
    corrosion, but has been largely superseded by mild steel; the term is now sometimes used to denote mild steel when it is used for the type of
    metalwork regarded as characteristic of wrought iron (see, for example,
    quots. 1978, 1986 at Compounds C.1).

    1556
    Twa pund of wrocht irne.
    in R. Adam, Edinburgh Rec. (1899) vol. I. 196

    1615
    All kind of furres and wrought iron, do here sell to much profit.
    G. Sandys, Relation of Journey i. 86

    1693
    Why else should he [sc. Aristotle] tell us that Wrought Iron it self may be made Liquid, so as to harden again.., if it was not to explain to us the manner of making of Steel.
    Philosophical Transactions (Royal Society) vol. 17 869

    ..."

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  • From Mike Spencer@21:1/5 to JAB on Sat Aug 24 16:50:34 2024
    JAB <here@is.invalid> writes:

    On 24 Aug 2024 03:20:05 -0300, Mike Spencer
    <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:

    Wrought is the archaic form of "worked," the more commonly used past
    tense and past participle of work.

    Wrought iron, iron with a very low carbon content that has been
    wrought (hammered) by hand.

    ...in the process of converting what comes out of the blast furnace into >>merchant bar.

    When shaping one inch iron, I assume heat was used. If so, then
    another definition (redux) of wrought iron.

    Well, I was being "grumpy old man" enough without added critique but I
    don't think that VW openwork is 1" (one inch) diameter rod. I doesn't
    look it to my eye. If you compare the number of pixels in the
    width/diameter of the yellow rod with the pixels of the lettering on
    the license plate, it looks like the metalwork is 1/2" diameter or
    less. As well, 1/4 mile of 1" steel rod would weigh more than a
    complete stock VW Beetle -- floor pan, power plant, running gear and
    coachwork combined.

    1" round bar weighs four times (per foot) the weight of 1/2" round bar.

    --
    Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere on Sat Aug 24 15:58:42 2024
    On 24 Aug 2024 16:50:34 -0300, Mike Spencer
    <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:

    1" round bar weighs four times (per foot)
    the weight of 1/2" round bar.

    IIRC, that's what Brian's daughter said.."rod inch iron"....Brian
    Mentley, a mechanic from Windsor, Ontario, rebuilt the 1967 VW Beetle.

    On another note,
    "According to vintage VW blogger Old Bug. Rafael Esparza Prieto, a
    Mexican blacksmith, built the original iron Beetle using a real car as
    a mould, shaping intricate iron patterns."

    PIC https://rmsothebys.com/media/Blog/2019/09%20-%20September/Sept4_TG19MildtoWild/115544/1970-volkswagen-beetle-casa-linda-lace-by-rafael-esparza-prieto_4.jpg


    1956 Volkswagen Beetle Outlaw https://rmsothebys.com/media/Blog/2019/09%20-%20September/Sept4_TG19MildtoWild/115550/1956-volkswagen-beetle-outlaw-death-by-franz-muhr_4.jpg

    Once an abandoned turquoise 1956 Baja Bug project, Franz Muhr of
    Muhr's Kustom Coach Werks spent 3,000 hours chopping, channeling,
    sectioning, and stretching the humble Beetle body and floor pans to
    craft the ominous 36-inch-tall creation dubbed "Death." The front
    windshield is a mere four inches tall, a result of chopping a full
    eight inches from the roof at the B-pillars and an additional inch at
    the windshield and rear window. At just barely two inches off the
    ground, its builder cites its inclination to bottom out, joking to Hot
    Rod magazine that adding power helps it out of perilous situations.
    Its engine and transaxle were raised to avoid excessive camber, and
    the steering was moved to the right side. The editors at Hot Rod
    called it "the most outrageous thing we saw the entire year" and
    nominated it as one of their top 10 customs in 2008.

    https://rmsothebys.com/all-stories-videos/from-mild-to-wild-the-diverse-volkswagens-of-taj-ma-garaj/

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  • From Mike Spencer@21:1/5 to JAB on Sat Aug 24 20:46:28 2024
    JAB <here@is.invalid> writes:

    On another note, "According to vintage VW blogger Old Bug. Rafael
    Esparza Prieto, a Mexican blacksmith, built the original iron Beetle
    using a real car as a mould, shaping intricate iron patterns."

    PIC https://rmsothebys.com/media/Blog/2019/09%20-%20September/Sept4_TG19MildtoWild/115544/1970-volkswagen-beetle-casa-linda-lace-by-rafael-esparza-prieto_4.jpg

    This one is better:

    https://vrbanus.com/

    Scrolls are tapered and/or have forged terminals. Some joints are arc welded but many use traditional banding. There's an interesting take on
    leafwork, not traditional Baroque but effective.


    --
    Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere on Sat Aug 24 19:21:53 2024
    On 24 Aug 2024 20:46:28 -0300, Mike Spencer
    <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:

    This one

    Sidebar: A local person where I lived once

    He came from Germany penniless in 1955, and his first job as a dishwasher....then driving a truck...then he started building iron
    porch railings for people in his spare time after work...and this
    business boomed...he ended up creating a business with 225 employees
    when he sold it

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