• "Definition of left and right"

    From Blog Reposts@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 4 00:16:58 2024
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    https://blog.reaction.la/politics/definition-of-left-and-right/

    Definition of left and right
    September 2nd, 2024

    Leftism

    starts with envy and covetousness. Covetousness is that someone wants to
    knock over the apple cart to grab some apples. Envy is he just want to knock over the apple cart because he does not have one.

    And, given that there are people who want to knock over the applecart,
    easier and safer to knock it over as part of a gang. So, priests: Someone
    comes up with a clever rationalisation why knocking over the applecart is
    wise, virtuous, and beneficial. Then, from priests, to a priesthood: Leftism gives rise to the left as an organised entity with a hierarchy and an
    official, though frequently changing, belief system.

    What defines the belief system is not the beliefs, which are ever changing, (socialism, redistribution, global warming, sexism, Covidianity, diversity, inclusion, whatever) but that regardless of the what the beliefs supposedly consist of, someone else's applecart is in the sights.

    Leftism is the belief system that supplies rationales for knocking over whichever applecart is currently in the sights of the covetous and envious,
    it is the priests of that belief system, and
    the left

    is the priesthood of that belief system.

    That the brownshirts were leftists is obvious. Hitler was considerably less left. But what made him still a leftist was National Socialism, and
    socialism manifested, as always, in shortages.

    Price control plus money printing, resulted in food shortages in Germany
    almost immediately. He then attempted to transfer food from outgroups to ingroups by the command economy. Which meant not only not feeding the Jews
    but also not feeding the Greeks (who were national socialists) and not
    feeding the Dutch, who were a remarkable food production powerhouse, not to mention more Aryan than Germans. Which of course shut down food production
    in Greece, France, and the rest.

    Socialism, command economy -> food shortage. So the party winds up making decisions to let people starve. Including the Dutch, who were more Aryan
    than the Germans and had very impressive food production.

    Hitler's problem, like that of King Louis the sixteenth, and like that of Napoleon, was food. The moral of all these stories and many others is that
    the state should not mess with the market in food production and
    distribution, and that if that market is failing, it needs to look after the property rights and personal safety of producers and distributors. The food desert problem in the big blue megalopoli could easily be fixed by shooting
    a few shoplifters. Public hangings followed by quartering the corpses and leaving the pieces of the bodies outside the shopping centers would also
    help.

    If leftism's ever changing beliefs are impossible to pin down,

    rightism

    has no beliefs. Rightism should be the party of order, or at least the party
    of existing order, but it is the party of applecart owners and people with
    an emotional attachment to Chesterton's fence. Its existence is provoked by
    the party of the left. As a result, conservatives conserve yesterday's leftism. The party of the left is a priesthood. The party of the right is
    not a priesthood, nor does it have a priesthood in its pocket. It does not actually have any beliefs to believe in, so it tends to wind up in the
    pocket of the priesthood of the left, which tends to give rise to the
    dynamics of the uniparty with an inner party wing, the official party of the left that is always in power even when the outer party happens to have a
    merely elected majority, and an outer party wing, which is always out of
    power because even when it is a majority of the merely elected government,
    it is a small and unpopular minority within the permanent and unelected government, and even if it was not, it would still lack intellectual sovereignty, worshipping at the shrines of the enemy priesthood. The
    uniparty is in substantial part the result of centralised conspiracy run
    from Harvard with tentacles in every satrapy of the global American empire,
    but that conspiracy is working with the natural and spontaneous grain of politics.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Sep 4 06:48:03 2024
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    Governor Swill wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

    On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 00:16:58 -0400, Blog Reposts <blog@repost.everywhere> wrote:

    https://blog.reaction.la/politics/definition-of-left-and-right/

    Bullshit, right wing propaganda. There is so much wrong with this, it would take more time than I'm willing to spend just to refute its bogus points. For
    starters, the author doesn't know his/her/its left from right. If you're going
    to write about politics, that's essential.

    "right"/"left"
    "conservative"/"liberal"
    "fascist"/"communist"
    "Republican"/"Democrat"

    Words often misused. For example, "conservative". "The conservative Republican Trump", the news will say.

    Trump is neither conservative nor Republican, though he has changed (with the help of millions of people who scared the shit out of Republican Congressmen) the Republican party by greatly accelerating its descent into madness.

    --
    Just once, I wish we would encounter an alien menace that wasn't
    immune to bullets.
    -- The Brigadier, "Dr. Who"

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 4 07:34:22 2024
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    In article <lumgdjdvi42cs366vtgbp21cmk377u66jb@4ax.com>, governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 06:48:03 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    Governor Swill wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

    On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 00:16:58 -0400, Blog Reposts <blog@repost.everywhere> wrote:

    https://blog.reaction.la/politics/definition-of-left-and-right/

    Bullshit, right wing propaganda. There is so much wrong with this, it would
    take more time than I'm willing to spend just to refute its bogus points. For
    starters, the author doesn't know his/her/its left from right. If you're going
    to write about politics, that's essential.

    "right"/"left"
    "conservative"/"liberal"
    "fascist"/"communist"
    "Republican"/"Democrat"

    Words often misused. For example, "conservative". "The conservative Republican
    Trump", the news will say.

    Trump is neither conservative nor Republican, though he has changed (with the
    help of millions of people who scared the shit out of Republican Congressmen)
    the Republican party by greatly accelerating its descent into madness.

    The nevertrump movement in the Republican Party is as much about rebuilding a post Trump GOP than about stopping Trump from taking power again. These Republicans do NOT want their party associated with the far right, with neo Nazis, Christian Nationalists and the KKK going forward. They want to reinforce
    themselves as true conservatives, the Party of Lincoln. Win or lose, they want
    to dissociate "Trump" from "Republican Party" at all costs.

    Nope. But you can dream.

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  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Sep 4 07:27:13 2024
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    On 9/4/2024 1:31 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 00:16:58 -0400, Blog Reposts <blog@repost.everywhere> wrote:

    https://blog.reaction.la/politics/definition-of-left-and-right/

    Bullshit, right wing propaganda.

    Yes, it is. It is simple-minded right-wingnut propaganda. Start with the first lines of his definitions of "leftism" and "rightism":

    leftism — starts with envy and covetousness
    rightism — has no beliefs

    Two nuggets of bullshit, two lies and there's no way to improve on them.

    There is so much wrong with this, it would
    take more time than I'm willing to spend just to refute its bogus points. For
    starters, the author doesn't know his/her/its left from right. If you're going
    to write about politics, that's essential.


    --
    #NEVERtrump

    --
    Every Republiscum/QAnon accusation is, in fact, a confession

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  • From George Crabtree@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 4 16:12:45 2024
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    https://blog.reaction.la/politics/definition-of-left-and-right/


    Many Christian Conservatives are now saying that Trump is leftist because he doesn't demand a total end to birth control and abortion.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 4 10:16:41 2024
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    In article <vba0tt$3t77v$2@dont-email.me>, X@Y.com says...

    https://blog.reaction.la/politics/definition-of-left-and-right/


    Many Christian Conservatives are now saying that Trump is leftist because he doesn't demand a total end to birth control and abortion.

    Only the ones the fake news tells you to listen to.

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  • From Anonymous@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Sep 4 20:28:35 2024
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    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 06:48:03 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    Governor Swill wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

    On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 00:16:58 -0400, Blog Reposts <blog@repost.everywhere> wrote:

    https://blog.reaction.la/politics/definition-of-left-and-right/

    Bullshit, right wing propaganda. There is so much wrong with this, it would
    take more time than I'm willing to spend just to refute its bogus points. For
    starters, the author doesn't know his/her/its left from right. If you're going
    to write about politics, that's essential.

    "right"/"left"
    "conservative"/"liberal"
    "fascist"/"communist"
    "Republican"/"Democrat"

    Words often misused. For example, "conservative". "The conservative Republican
    Trump", the news will say.

    Trump is neither conservative nor Republican, though he has changed (with the
    help of millions of people who scared the shit out of Republican Congressmen)
    the Republican party by greatly accelerating its descent into madness.

    The nevertrump movement in the Republican Party is as much about rebuilding a post Trump GOP than about stopping Trump from taking power again. These Republicans do NOT want their party associated with the far right,

    Trump is about as "far right" as a 1980s Democrat, Governor Shill.

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  • From Anonymous@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Sep 4 20:27:24 2024
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    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 00:16:58 -0400, Blog Reposts <blog@repost.everywhere> wrote:

    https://blog.reaction.la/politics/definition-of-left-and-right/

    Bullshit, right wing propaganda. There is so much wrong with this, it would take more time than I'm willing to spend just to refute its bogus points. For
    starters, the author doesn't know his/her/its left from right. If you're going
    to write about politics, that's essential.

    You're not unwilling to, you're UNABLE to, Governor Shill. You couldn't
    even pick ONE item and argue with it.

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  • From Anonymous@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Wed Sep 4 20:32:24 2024
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    Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 9/4/2024 1:31 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 00:16:58 -0400, Blog Reposts <blog@repost.everywhere> wrote:

    https://blog.reaction.la/politics/definition-of-left-and-right/

    Bullshit, right wing propaganda.

    Yes, it is. It is simple-minded right-wingnut propaganda. Start with the first
    lines of his definitions of "leftism" and "rightism":

       leftism — starts with envy and covetousness
       rightism — has no beliefs

    Two nuggets of bullshit, two lies and there's no way to improve on them.

    Then what is 'left' and what is 'right' according to you, dwarf?

    Like Governor Shill, you either didn't read the blog post, didn't understand the blog post, or both.

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  • From wayne@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 5 03:20:18 2024
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    On 04 Sep 2024, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> posted some news:vbattc$1ip3$1@news.mixmin.net:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 00:16:58 -0400, Blog Reposts
    <blog@repost.everywhere> wrote:

    https://blog.reaction.la/politics/definition-of-left-and-right/

    Bullshit, right wing propaganda. There is so much wrong with this,
    it would take more time than I'm willing to spend just to refute its
    bogus points. For starters, the author doesn't know his/her/its left
    from right. If you're going to write about politics, that's
    essential.

    You're not unwilling to, you're UNABLE to, Governor Shill. You
    couldn't even pick ONE item and argue with it.

    Ha! Ha! You got him there.

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  • From Kim@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 6 03:03:35 2024
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    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 03:20:18 +0200 (CEST), wayne <none@invalid.org>
    wrote:

    On 04 Sep 2024, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> posted some
    news:vbattc$1ip3$1@news.mixmin.net:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 00:16:58 -0400, Blog Reposts
    <blog@repost.everywhere> wrote:

    https://blog.reaction.la/politics/definition-of-left-and-right/

    Bullshit, right wing propaganda. There is so much wrong with this,
    it would take more time than I'm willing to spend just to refute its >>>>> bogus points. For starters, the author doesn't know his/her/its
    left from right. If you're going to write about politics, that's
    essential.

    You're not unwilling to, you're UNABLE to, Governor Shill. You
    couldn't even pick ONE item and argue with it.

    Ha! Ha! You got him there.

    "That the brownshirts were leftists is obvious. Hitler was considerably
    less left. But what made him still a leftist was National Socialism,
    and socialism manifested, as always, in shortages."

    National Socialism, like today's neo Nazis, was a far right party.

    Not by the standards of the 1930s.

    The Nazis and Communists were bitter enemies. This is why Germany
    attacked Russia.

    Communists are the biggest killers of other communists.

    Rightists are fond of labeling all lefties as commies.

    "No enemies to the left, no friends to the right."

    Therefore, by your own
    admission, fascists of all types are right wingers.

    No they aren't.

    Why?

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  • From Anonymous@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Thu Sep 5 22:42:50 2024
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    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 03:20:18 +0200 (CEST), wayne <none@invalid.org> wrote:

    On 04 Sep 2024, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> posted some
    news:vbattc$1ip3$1@news.mixmin.net:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 00:16:58 -0400, Blog Reposts
    <blog@repost.everywhere> wrote:

    https://blog.reaction.la/politics/definition-of-left-and-right/

    Bullshit, right wing propaganda. There is so much wrong with this,
    it would take more time than I'm willing to spend just to refute its
    bogus points. For starters, the author doesn't know his/her/its left
    from right. If you're going to write about politics, that's
    essential.

    You're not unwilling to, you're UNABLE to, Governor Shill. You
    couldn't even pick ONE item and argue with it.

    Ha! Ha! You got him there.

    "That the brownshirts were leftists is obvious. Hitler was considerably less left. But what made him still a leftist was National Socialism, and socialism manifested, as always, in shortages."

    National Socialism, like today's neo Nazis, was a far right party.

    Not by the standards of the 1930s.

    The Nazis and Communists were bitter enemies. This is why Germany attacked Russia.

    Communists are the biggest killers of other communists.

    Rightists are fond of labeling all lefties as commies.

    "No enemies to the left, no friends to the right."

    Therefore, by your own
    admission, fascists of all types are right wingers.

    No they aren't.

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