• Elon Musk Could Have US Citizenship Revoked

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 2 21:13:04 2024
    Elon Musk Could Have US Citizenship Revoked If He Lied on Immigration
    Forms

    Elon Musk could have his United States citizenship revoked and be
    exposed to criminal prosecution if he lied to the government as part
    of the immigration process, according to legal experts.

    Musk, who was born and raised in South Africa and later emigrated to
    Canada before eventually settling in the US and becoming a citizen,
    has spent more than $100 million to support Donald Trump and his
    nativist presidential campaign, and has personally demonized
    immigrants. A recent Bloomberg analysis found, for example, that Musk
    has posted around 1,300 times on X this year about immigration and
    voter fraud. Many of those posts promote the "great replacement"
    conspiracy theory, which falsely holds that Democrats seek to replace
    white voters with unauthorized immigrants whose votes they control,
    and depicts immigrants as dangerous lawbreakers.

    https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-citizenship-revoked-denaturalized/

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to snipeco.2@gmail.com on Sat Nov 2 21:53:49 2024
    On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 02:21:05 +0000, snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

    wonders which authority has determined that the
    ""great replacement" conspiracy theory" is false.

    Years ago, the thinking was that US's Latino citizens would reproduce
    like rabbits, and then have the political clout.

    Congress could have reduced this population growth, but US businesses
    wanted cheap labor.

    I believe industrial nations have allowed immigration for business
    wants/needs.

    Democrats seek to replace
    white voters with unauthorized immigrants

    This is false....Democrats and Republicans in Congress did not address
    this issue. Money talks, and BS walks, so the business sector got
    cheap labor. Even Trump hired them...

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Sun Nov 3 11:38:21 2024
    On Sat, 2 Nov 2024, JAB wrote:

    Elon Musk Could Have US Citizenship Revoked If He Lied on Immigration
    Forms

    Elon Musk could have his United States citizenship revoked and be
    exposed to criminal prosecution if he lied to the government as part
    of the immigration process, according to legal experts.

    Musk, who was born and raised in South Africa and later emigrated to
    Canada before eventually settling in the US and becoming a citizen,
    has spent more than $100 million to support Donald Trump and his
    nativist presidential campaign, and has personally demonized
    immigrants. A recent Bloomberg analysis found, for example, that Musk
    has posted around 1,300 times on X this year about immigration and
    voter fraud. Many of those posts promote the "great replacement"
    conspiracy theory, which falsely holds that Democrats seek to replace
    white voters with unauthorized immigrants whose votes they control,
    and depicts immigrants as dangerous lawbreakers.

    https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-citizenship-revoked-denaturalized/

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    No worries... when Trump is king, all sins will be forgiven! =)

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Sun Nov 3 11:40:10 2024
    On Sat, 2 Nov 2024, JAB wrote:

    On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 02:21:05 +0000, snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

    wonders which authority has determined that the
    ""great replacement" conspiracy theory" is false.

    Years ago, the thinking was that US's Latino citizens would reproduce
    like rabbits, and then have the political clout.

    Congress could have reduced this population growth, but US businesses
    wanted cheap labor.

    I believe industrial nations have allowed immigration for business wants/needs.

    Democrats seek to replace
    white voters with unauthorized immigrants

    This is false....Democrats and Republicans in Congress did not address
    this issue. Money talks, and BS walks, so the business sector got
    cheap labor. Even Trump hired them...


    This is the truth and it will happen. Swedens politicians have a policy of replacing ethnic swedes, and in 2050 according to the staitistics, ethnic swedes will be a minority in their own country. I would suspect that in
    2080 or so, sweden will be a moslem country.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to snipeco.2@gmail.com on Sun Nov 3 11:26:46 2024
    On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 03:12:26 +0000, snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

    I make no comment on your obviously firmly held opinion,
    expressed above by your as yet unsupported assertion.

    unsupported assertion

    Fully supported....in the news, and even a book or two.

    1. Wet back labor is old news
    2. Eisenhower admin attempted to eradicate this labor pool
    3. After Eisenhower, future Ds/Rs did not fully address this issue.
    4. When businesses need labor, but few to none available, they get
    ticked off. It was businesses that used slave and wet back labor. ============================

    Which authority has determined that the ""great replacement"
    conspiracy theory" is false?

    How the 'replacement' theory went mainstream on ...
    NPR.
    May 17, 2022 --"Replacement" theory began in white supremacist
    circles, but has since moved more mainstream on the political right in
    this country and among many Republicans, explicitly or implicitly.
    ...
    ...
    That mainstreaming of the theory has been building for a long time
    politically.

    It can be seen by implication, for example, at least as far back as
    the "White Hands" ad that late North Carolina Sen. Jesse Helms ran
    during his 1990 reelection campaign. https://www.npr.org/2022/05/17/1099223012/how-the-replacement-theory-went-mainstream-on-the-political-right
    ==============

    This below is false...Ds/Rs have failed to act in Congress when
    compared to Eisenhower's admin.

    "Many of those posts promote the "great replacement" conspiracy
    theory, which falsely holds that Democrats seek to replace white
    voters with unauthorized immigrants whose votes they control, and
    depicts immigrants as dangerous lawbreakers."

    conspiracy theory

    Bullshit, aimed as political rhetoric for shifting a person's
    perspective. Congress failed to address this issue.

    Which authority has determined that the ""great replacement"
    conspiracy theory" is false?

    A nonsense question....it shows the person does not understand the
    topic.

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  • From Mike Spencer@21:1/5 to snipeco.2@gmail.com on Sun Nov 3 15:35:28 2024
    snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) writes:

    You have not so far answered my question:

    Which authority has determined that the ""great replacement"
    conspiracy theory" is false?

    You're asking a black-swan question. Who has proven that black swans
    don't exist? Intrinsically counter-rational.

    In addition, it's probable that nearly *all* the weird thing that
    conspiracists hypothesize *exist* somewhere. There are undoubtedly
    (or at least arguably) some people somewhere who ardently believe that
    doing whatever they find themselves able to do will make the American electorate non-white or non-European or something and "they" can take
    over. But the conspiracy theory alleges that such a project is the
    work of the Democratic Party or at least a secret consortium of
    liberal elites with access to the power to bring about the dread brown democalypse. Those deranged conspiracists aren't talking about Bubba
    and his sister-in-law who are meeting with neighbors over Jack Daniels
    in Salt Hole, Utah, on Saturday nights.

    So you might throw up the latter as an existence proof, as silly as
    that might be.

    Cokie's Law is the axiom that says the press can pass judgement
    about anything once it's "out there" regardless of whether or
    not what's "out there" is true. This allows them to skip doing
    boring rebuttals of the facts at hand and instead hold forth at
    length about how it bears on the subject's "judgement" and the
    "appearance" of wrongdoing without ever proving that what they
    did was wrong. -- Digby

    I will admit, the people who drove the digital revolution,
    including myself, really thought that the world would get more
    rational....There were a lot of them out there. They were just
    not finding each other. And now, with digital tools, say: 'Oh
    you think that crazy thing? Me too! Let's get together and
    have a critical mass of crazy people. Let's, you know, call
    ourselves QAnon.' -- Bill Gates

    The Web brings people together because no matter what kind of a
    twisted sexual mutant you happen to be, you've got millions of
    pals out there. Type in "Find people that have sex with goats
    that are on fire" and the computer will ask, "Specify type of
    goat." -- Rich Jeni

    It's not getting any smarter out there. You have to come to
    terms with stupidity and make it work for you. -- Frank Zappa


    --
    Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to snipeco.2@gmail.com on Sun Nov 3 18:50:49 2024
    On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 20:01:31 +0000, snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

    unsupported assertion that the "great
    replacement" conspiracy theory"

    KISS: In Trump's first two years as POTUS, with the 115th United
    States Congress in Republican control, Trump failed to enact
    legislation that would greatly penalize businesses who hire them.

    Rs and Ds have had control of Congress since Eisenhower's admin, and
    both parties have failed to take firm action on this issue.

    If the cat is away, the mice will play. Without employment, they will
    not come.

    Ds have wanted to address this issue in Congress, but Trump behind the
    scenes has told Rs not to pass legislation.

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to snipeco.2@gmail.com on Mon Nov 4 01:21:14 2024
    On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 03:12:26 +0000, snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote in <1r2fewc.1s3hwtopd54f8N%snipeco.2@gmail.com>:

    JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

    On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 02:21:05 +0000, snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

    [some silent edits restored for clarity]

    [This non-partisan British seeker after truth] wonders which
    authority has determined that the ""great replacement" conspiracy
    theory" is false.


    Years ago, the thinking was that US's Latino citizens would reproduce
    like rabbits, and then have the political clout.

    Congress could have reduced this population growth, but US businesses
    wanted cheap labor.

    I believe industrial nations have allowed immigration for business
    wants/needs.

    Democrats seek to replace white voters with unauthorized immigrants

    This is false....Democrats and Republicans in Congress did not address
    this issue. Money talks, and BS walks, so the business sector got
    cheap labor. Even Trump hired them...


    I make no comment on your obviously firmly held opinion, expressed above
    by your as yet unsupported assertion.

    You have not so far answered my question:

    Which authority has determined that the ""great replacement"
    conspiracy theory" is false?

    That would be the "null hypothesis".

    I humbly suggest that the question to ask would be:

    "Which authority has determined that the '"great replacement"
    conspiracy theory' is true?"

    --
    -v

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 3 19:49:14 2024
    On Mon, 4 Nov 2024 01:21:14 -0000 (UTC), vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
    wrote:

    That would be the "null hypothesis"

    Technically, it's political non-sense directed at the Rs suckers and
    losers who can't sort the chaff from the wheat.

    As she said, "Where's the beef"

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to snipeco.2@gmail.com on Sun Nov 3 22:48:35 2024
    On Mon, 4 Nov 2024 02:50:26 +0000, snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

    Whatever, we appear to be at an impasse

    Trump has hired wet back laborers...as POTUS, would he want tough
    legislation to kick his butt?

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