• Trump's plan to dismantle the U.S. indoctrination system (college)

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 11 19:30:21 2024
    Notice the incoherency below...."protecting free speech" while
    eliminating "Marxist" speech. Highly unlikely he wrote the comments
    below.



    Trump's plan to dismantle the U.S. indoctrination system (college) by
    seizing funds from schools that refuse to comply with his
    accreditation system.

    1. "Our secret weapon will be the college accreditation system."

    2. "Fire the radical left accreditors that have allowed our colleges
    to become dominated by Marxist maniacs and lunatics."

    3. "We will then accept applications for new accreditors who will
    impose real standards on colleges once again."

    "These standards will include defending the American tradition and
    Western civilization, protecting free speech, and eliminating wasteful administrative positions that drive up costs."

    https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1856028383622087086

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Nov 12 10:57:19 2024
    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024, JAB wrote:

    Notice the incoherency below...."protecting free speech" while
    eliminating "Marxist" speech. Highly unlikely he wrote the comments
    below.

    This is called the paradox of tolerance.

    The paradox of tolerance is a philosophical concept suggesting that if a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling
    the eventual dominance of intolerance, thereby undermining the very
    principle of tolerance. This paradox was articulated by philosopher Karl
    Popper in The Open Society and Its Enemies (1945), where he argued that a
    truly tolerant society must not tolerate those who promote intolerance.[2] Popper posited that if intolerant ideologies are allowed unchecked
    expression, they could exploit open society values to erode or destroy tolerance itself through authoritarian or oppressive practices.



    Trump's plan to dismantle the U.S. indoctrination system (college) by
    seizing funds from schools that refuse to comply with his
    accreditation system.

    1. "Our secret weapon will be the college accreditation system."

    2. "Fire the radical left accreditors that have allowed our colleges
    to become dominated by Marxist maniacs and lunatics."

    3. "We will then accept applications for new accreditors who will
    impose real standards on colleges once again."

    "These standards will include defending the American tradition and
    Western civilization, protecting free speech, and eliminating wasteful administrative positions that drive up costs."

    https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1856028383622087086


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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Tue Nov 12 11:50:03 2024
    On 2024-11-12, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    "These standards will include ...
    and eliminating wasteful administrative positions that drive up costs."

    bwa ha ha. So, how did that one work out again, eliminating those
    wasteful admin positions that drive up college cost? Big success,
    right? Made college affordable for everyone, did they?

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to fungus@amongus.com.invalid on Tue Nov 12 06:21:25 2024
    On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 11:50:03 -0000 (UTC), Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:

    "These standards will include ...
    and eliminating wasteful administrative positions that drive up costs."

    bwa ha ha. So, how did that one work out again,...

    Hogwash....SEE: Percentage distribution of core expenses for
    degree-granting postsecondary institutions, by level and control of
    institution and expense category: Fiscal year 2020-21

    https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=75

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Tue Nov 12 06:26:28 2024
    On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 10:57:19 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Popper posited that if intolerant ideologies are allowed unchecked >expression, they could exploit open society values to erode or destroy >tolerance itself through authoritarian or oppressive practices.

    Currently, this refers to Trump and party....

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Nov 12 17:29:35 2024
    On 2024-11-12, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 11:50:03 -0000 (UTC), Retrograde
    <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:

    "These standards will include ...
    and eliminating wasteful administrative positions that drive up costs."

    bwa ha ha. So, how did that one work out again,...

    Hogwash....SEE: Percentage distribution of core expenses for
    degree-granting postsecondary institutions, by level and control of institution and expense category: Fiscal year 2020-21

    https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=75

    Wow, great link. And some pretty outrageous statistics:

    Percent spent on Instruction:
    Private for-profit: 27%
    Private non-profit: 39%
    Public: 34%

    Percent spent on Academic support, student services, institutional
    support (aka general admin):
    Private for-profit: 68%
    Private non-profit: 40%
    Public: 28%

    Seems like the public can demand a better deal if they push. A lot of
    casual admins living off tuition payments.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to fungus@amongus.com.invalid on Tue Nov 12 11:43:12 2024
    On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 17:29:35 -0000 (UTC), Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:

    Percent spent on Instruction:
    Private for-profit: 27%
    Private non-profit: 39%
    Public: 34%

    But, "AI Overview...A private for-profit university is a privately-run institution that focuses on earning revenue through
    tuition....For-profit universities often have fast-track
    career-preparation programs, but they can have low graduation rates,
    high student debt and default rates, and low rates of preparing
    students for gainful employment."

    And this is pure bullshit

    "These standards will include defending the American tradition and
    Western civilization, protecting free speech, and eliminating wasteful >administrative positions that drive up costs."

    Highly unlikely Trump wrote this....

    defending the American tradition and
    Western civilization,

    Excuse me, but coursework would only be taught to a limited number of
    students.

    protecting free speech

    Right, by eliminating other points of view....

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Tue Nov 12 11:53:13 2024
    On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:42:26 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Yes! They must be strict with the

    If this came to be, Trump would not have been elected, due to a lack
    of suckers/losers.

    "Eugenic programs included both positive measures, such as encouraging individuals deemed particularly "fit" to reproduce, and negative
    measures, such as marriage prohibitions and forced sterilization of
    people deemed unfit for reproduction"

    But, now these intolerant Rs have their "Eugenic Program" of their
    design, and like the Eugenicists, it will fail.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Nov 12 18:42:26 2024
    On Tue, 12 Nov 2024, JAB wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 10:57:19 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Popper posited that if intolerant ideologies are allowed unchecked
    expression, they could exploit open society values to erode or destroy
    tolerance itself through authoritarian or oppressive practices.

    Currently, this refers to Trump and party....


    Yes! They must be strict with the socialist democrats, if not, they will dismantle US society and turn it into a dictatorship. But Trump will do
    well. He is a good man and has god on his side! =)

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Nov 12 21:39:31 2024
    On Tue, 12 Nov 2024, JAB wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:42:26 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Yes! They must be strict with the

    If this came to be, Trump would not have been elected, due to a lack
    of suckers/losers.

    "Eugenic programs included both positive measures, such as encouraging individuals deemed particularly "fit" to reproduce, and negative
    measures, such as marriage prohibitions and forced sterilization of
    people deemed unfit for reproduction"

    But, now these intolerant Rs have their "Eugenic Program" of their
    design, and like the Eugenicists, it will fail.


    Why?

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Tue Nov 12 18:40:29 2024
    On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 21:39:31 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Why?

    People who get caught up in a movement, like Eugenics, Nazism, and now Trumpism, tend to ignore reality, and live in a "greatness" fictional
    world. "We are the best/etc" is what swells their brains.

    In Trumpism/Rs 'master plan' for workers is to depress wages and eliminate/reduce earned social benefits. These folks are shortsighted
    because as wages are decreased with inflation, they will resort to
    buying second hand clothing/etc., whenever possible; so when they are
    kept poorer, they buy less new stuff, and businesses suffer.

    In Eugenics, they knew nothing about genetics then, but had this
    movement gained world-wide traction, fewer blue-collar people would
    exist today. Suckers and losers would have to be weeded out.

    Btw, I hope you can see thru this bullshit

    2. "Fire the radical left accreditors that have allowed our colleges
    to become dominated by Marxist maniacs and lunatics."

    Marxist maniacs and lunatics

    That's 1950s rhetoric...where's the beef today? His/Rs speech writer
    is just tossing words out there, with no relevance to reality today.

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  • From Anonymous@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Nov 12 22:52:46 2024
    JAB wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 21:39:31 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Why?

    People who get caught up in a movement, like Eugenics, Nazism, and now Trumpism, tend to ignore reality,

    "Men can get pregnant too!"

    Stop with the projection, you faggot.

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