When the mask mandate was lifted from Mass General Brigham in May '23, hospital transmission of resp virus went up. When the mandate was re-instituted in Jan '24, infection rates went down.
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20240523/Study-confirms-face-masks-effectiveness-in-reducing-disease-transmission-calls-for-improved-public-understanding.aspx
https://bsky.app/profile/casinoshiftmd.bsky.social/post/3lbzsyrynwk2r
Yet... sweden has the lowest excess mortality when it comes to corona, in
all of the EU, without mask mandates, proving that masks did not make any >difference at all. =)
On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 10:47:56 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
Yet... sweden has the lowest excess mortality when it comes to corona, in
all of the EU, without mask mandates, proving that masks did not make any
difference at all. =)
Mortality in Norway and Sweden during the COVID-19 pandemic 2020-22: A comparative study
Norway and Sweden picked two different ways to mitigate the
dissemination of the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Norway introduced the strictest lockdown in Europe with strict border controls and intense virus
tracking of all local outbreaks while Sweden did not. That resulted in
477 COVID-19 deaths (Norway) and 9737 (Sweden) in 2020, respectively.
Results
There were 17521 COVID-19 deaths in Sweden and 4272 in Norway in the
study period.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1876034123003714
Not talking mortality
Results
There were 17521 COVID-19 deaths in Sweden and 4272 in Norway in the
study period.
On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 22:40:31 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
Not talking mortality
Genetics and immunity has to be evaluated, for instances
Japanese researchers identify genetic quirk linked to severe COVID-19
- Despite intensive research since the pandemic began, much remains
unknown about COVID-19, particularly why it can be so severe in some
cases and relatively mild in others. Now, researchers from Japan have identified a genetic quirk that could make some patients more likely
to experience severer forms of COVID-19. https://www.news-medical.net/news/20230725/Japanese-researchers-identify-genetic-quirk-linked-to-severe-COVID-19.aspx
"When European colonists arrived in the Americas, they brought
diseases like smallpox, which devastated Native American populations
due to their lack of immunity, leading to massive death tolls and significantly impacting the demographics of the continent; this is
considered one of the primary factors in the decline of Native
American populations during colonization."
================
Picking a data point and generalizing from it is not being
scientific...
Also, there are four ignored coronaviruses that circulate in humans,
and it was suggested those who had a cold coronavirus within previous
year may have a better immune response with Covid-19.
Your hypothesis lacks rigor...considering lots of people with "bad
germs" visit Sweden, then some portion of Sweden's population may have
a better immune response for this/that virus..
Regardless, wearing a mask can make a difference
Results
There were 17521 COVID-19 deaths in Sweden and 4272 in Norway in the
study period.
A mask can reduce the "mother load" expelled towards a person. If a
person with a working immune system was going to get "hit" with
Covid-19, it's much better to get a small dose than a big dose of it.
Due to the inexact definition of covid death
On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 12:12:49 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
Due to the inexact definition of covid death
Excess mortality in Denmark, Finland, Norway and Sweden during the
COVID-19 pandemic 2020–2022
In Sweden, restrictions primarily relied on voluntary measures and recommendations, alongside limitations on the size of public
gatherings, prohibition of visits to the elderly and the
implementation of distance learning for individuals aged 17 years and older.21 Denmark, Finland and Norway, in contrast, opted for more
stringent lockdown measures with closing of schools, kindergartens,
work places and many other services.18–20 All the Nordic countries experienced relatively low excess mortality during the COVID-19
pandemic compared with most other countries in the world.22,23 This
has been explained by effective public health measures, high trust in
public institutions, well-functioning health-care systems and high
vaccine uptake.23,24 However, mortality patterns varied between
countries, with high excess mortality in Sweden in 2020 relative to
the pre-pandemic period (2010–2019), but low excess mortality in 2021, compared with its neighbours.10,11 Yet, the COVID-19 pandemic, marked
by atypical mortality waves, likely led to variations in the size and duration of mortality peaks within individual years. Previous studies
that compared excess mortality across Denmark, Finland, Norway and
Sweden and adjusted for demographic change have utilized yearly data,
making corresponding analyses of within-year mortality variations unavailable.10,11 However, a precise evaluation of the impact of the
pandemic on mortality requires not only adjustment for demographic
changes, but also the use of high-frequency data and methodology that considers changes in both long-term and seasonal trends in mortality
over time.25
https://academic.oup.com/eurpub/article/34/4/737/7675929
As I was trying to point out here: March 6, 2023
On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 21:52:45 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
As I was trying to point out here: March 6, 2023
I cited a later dated article, 17 May 2024, which noted
"However, mortality patterns varied between countries, with high
excess mortality in Sweden in 2020 relative to the pre-pandemic period (2010-2019), but low excess mortality in 2021, compared with its neighbours.10,11"
Oh, so the Swedes realized this Covid-19 virus could kill them, so
they practiced the government speak:
"In Sweden, restrictions primarily relied on voluntary measures and recommendations, alongside limitations on the size of public
gatherings, prohibition of visits to the elderly and the
implementation of distance learning for individuals aged 17 years and older.21"
Your not wearing a mask hypothesis failed in 2020: "with high excess mortality in Sweden in 2020 "
You stated, "... proving that masks did not make any
difference at all. =)"
and clearly sweden came out on top proving
Some regard COVID-19 as the "Geriatric Culling Virus".
From a societal standpoint, whether or not that is a
good thing is reduced to a matter of policy.
Some regard COVID-19 as the "Geriatric Culling Virus".
From a societal standpoint, whether or not that is a
good thing is reduced to a matter of policy.
On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 11:12:27 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
and clearly sweden came out on top proving
Behavioral "isolation" guidelines can reduce total infections when
practiced.
In US, the Republican party did not take Covid seriously, and the
majority of deaths happened for those 50 and older.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/
The mask request was required in places like hospitals. Nursing homes
took a big death hit: "Long-Term Care Facility Residents and Staff
Account for More Than 201,000 COVID-19 Deaths, and At Least 23% of All COVID-19 Deaths in the U.S., As of 1/30/2022." https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/over-200000-residents-and-staff-in-long-term-care-facilities-have-died-from-covid-19/
In US, the Republican party did not take Covid seriously, and the
majority of deaths happened for those 50 and older.
Sadly we don't know that. The only thing we know is that doctors reported
it, but there were incentives in place to ensure massive over estimation.
On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 18:27:29 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
In US, the Republican party did not take Covid seriously, and the
majority of deaths happened for those 50 and older.
Sadly we don't know that. The only thing we know is that doctors reported
it, but there were incentives in place to ensure massive over estimation.
But, your claim was "we must look at excess mortality over time," and
now its being suggested "incentives in place to ensure massive over estimation."
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How are COVID-19 deaths counted, and what does this mean?
...
...
In slightly more than 2 years, authorities have recorded 5.75 million COVID-19 deaths worldwide. Some people believe that this is an
overestimate of the actual mortality from the disease. Others think
COVID-19 has caused many more deaths than the official figures show.
...
...
Whether the man died of COVID-19 or with COVID-19 is open to
interpretation. And this is why some dispute the official figures.
Died of or with COVID-19?
The World Health Organization (WHO) defines a death from COVID-19 as
"a death resulting from a clinically compatible illness in a probable
or confirmed COVID-19 case, unless there is a clear alternative cause
of death that cannot be related to COVID-19 disease, e.g., trauma."
The U.S. attributes death to COVID-19 where this disease, or the
coronavirus that causes it, appears as a cause or contributing cause
of death on the death certificate.
The U.K. records any death that occurs within 28 days of a positive
PCR test for SARS-CoV-2 as a COVID-19 death. The official U.K.
COVID-19 death toll is now about 159,000.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/how-are-covid-19-deaths-counted-and-what-does-this-mean#Official-figures
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