• Is coffee good for your heart health?

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 1 21:13:30 2024
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    Is coffee good for your heart health? 3 studies offer insights

    Studies on caffeine's effects on heart health have gained interest
    in recent years. One crucial question remains: How much caffeine is
    too much?

    In this roundup of the latest studies exploring the effects of
    caffeine on cardiovascular health, Medical News Today compiles the
    most recent evidence to highlight key findings and takeaways.

    Some studies suggest that consuming caffeine may help boost
    vascular health and lower the risk of type 2 diabetes, while others
    indicate that consuming too much may increase the risk of stroke.
    ...
    ...
    In a nutshell:

    According to a study published in September in the Endocrine Society's
    Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism, consuming coffee and
    caffeine in moderation on a regular basis could help prevent
    conditions like type 2 diabetes, coronary heart disease, and stroke.
    The amount the researchers found that had the most protective effects
    was around 200-300 mg daily, or roughly 2-3 cups of coffee.

    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/caffeine-coffee-heart-health-cardiovascular-benefits-studies

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Auric Hellman on Mon Dec 2 10:23:14 2024
    On Mon, 2 Dec 2024, Auric Hellman wrote:

    On 12/1/2024 10:13 PM, JAB wrote:
    Is coffee good for your heart health? 3 studies offer insights

    Studies on caffeine's effects on heart health have gained interest
    in recent years. One crucial question remains: How much caffeine is
    too much?

    In this roundup of the latest studies exploring the effects of
    caffeine on cardiovascular health, Medical News Today compiles the
    most recent evidence to highlight key findings and takeaways.

    Some studies suggest that consuming caffeine may help boost
    vascular health and lower the risk of type 2 diabetes, while others
    indicate that consuming too much may increase the risk of stroke.
    ...
    ...
    In a nutshell:

    According to a study published in September in the Endocrine Society's
    Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism, consuming coffee and
    caffeine in moderation on a regular basis could help prevent
    conditions like type 2 diabetes, coronary heart disease, and stroke.
    The amount the researchers found that had the most protective effects
    was around 200-300 mg daily, or roughly 2-3 cups of coffee.

    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/caffeine-coffee-heart-health-cardiovascular-benefits-studies



    Healthy or not, I can't imagine starting my day without at least 2 cups of coffee. For me it's a necessity. Something is going to kill me eventually; why not coffee?

    This is an error modern medicine frequently does. It assumes life is about quantity and completely forget about quality.

    A doctor recently said my father was naughty and proposed a more
    vegetarian diet due to cholesterol concerns. My father rightly responded
    "never gonna happen" and that his focus is on quality over quantity. The
    doctor sighed, and prescribed a bit of cholesterol medicine. Both happy
    campers in the end! ;)

    I drink about 0.5 to 0.8 liters of medium strong coffee per day.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Mon Dec 2 06:41:24 2024
    On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 10:23:14 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    A doctor...proposed a...vegetarian diet...prescribed ...cholesterol medicine.

    I believe med students are taught to speak the above in that same
    sequence.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Mon Dec 2 15:09:11 2024
    On Mon, 2 Dec 2024, JAB wrote:

    On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 10:23:14 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    A doctor...proposed a...vegetarian diet...prescribed ...cholesterol medicine.

    I believe med students are taught to speak the above in that same
    sequence.


    That's racist! If my father had blue skin color they would never dare to
    do that!

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Auric Hellman on Mon Dec 2 14:15:18 2024
    Auric Hellman wrote:

    On 12/1/2024 10:13 PM, JAB wrote:
    ...
    In a nutshell:

    According to a study published in September in the Endocrine
    Society's Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism,
    consuming coffee and caffeine in moderation on a regular
    basis could help prevent conditions like type 2 diabetes,
    coronary heart disease, and stroke. The amount the
    researchers found that had the most protective effects was
    around 200-300 mg daily, or roughly 2-3 cups of coffee.

    Healthy or not, I can't imagine starting my day without at
    least 2 cups of coffee. For me it's a necessity. Something is
    going to kill me eventually; why not coffee?

    Coffee? Nah, that's Yuk. Stick to tea, folks... preferably a
    nice cup of Earl Grey. Hot.

    You know it makes sense!

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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Mon Dec 2 16:22:06 2024
    On Mon, 02 Dec 2024 14:15:18 GMT
    "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Auric Hellman wrote:

    On 12/1/2024 10:13 PM, JAB wrote:
    ...
    In a nutshell:

    According to a study published in September in the Endocrine
    Society's Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism,
    consuming coffee and caffeine in moderation on a regular
    basis could help prevent conditions like type 2 diabetes,
    coronary heart disease, and stroke. The amount the
    researchers found that had the most protective effects was
    around 200-300 mg daily, or roughly 2-3 cups of coffee.

    Healthy or not, I can't imagine starting my day without at
    least 2 cups of coffee. For me it's a necessity. Something is
    going to kill me eventually; why not coffee?

    Coffee? Nah, that's Yuk. Stick to tea, folks... preferably a
    nice cup of Earl Grey. Hot.

    You know it makes sense!

    Quite so.

    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 2 11:23:42 2024
    On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 16:22:06 +0000, "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1>
    wrote:

    Coffee? Nah, that's Yuk. Stick to tea, folks... preferably a
    nice cup of Earl Grey. Hot.

    You know it makes sense!

    Quite so.

    A Brit drinking a Chinese tea...my, my !

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  • From D@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 2 21:44:19 2024
    On Mon, 2 Dec 2024, Sn!pe wrote:

    JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

    On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 16:22:06 +0000, "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1>
    wrote:

    Coffee? Nah, that's Yuk. Stick to tea, folks... preferably a
    nice cup of Earl Grey. Hot.

    You know it makes sense!

    Quite so.

    A Brit drinking a Chinese tea...my, my !

    My Granny said of Earl Grey: "water bewitched, tea begrudged."
    It's not my cup of tea, I like a good, strong Assam.

    Ok, when there is no Lapsang, I can go for Assam. That is a good second
    option. Hojicha is also good. Actually, I'd say Lapsang first, Hojicha
    second, and Assam third.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Mon Dec 2 21:43:09 2024
    On Mon, 2 Dec 2024, Blueshirt wrote:

    Auric Hellman wrote:

    On 12/1/2024 10:13 PM, JAB wrote:
    ...
    In a nutshell:

    According to a study published in September in the Endocrine
    Society's Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism,
    consuming coffee and caffeine in moderation on a regular
    basis could help prevent conditions like type 2 diabetes,
    coronary heart disease, and stroke. The amount the
    researchers found that had the most protective effects was
    around 200-300 mg daily, or roughly 2-3 cups of coffee.

    Healthy or not, I can't imagine starting my day without at
    least 2 cups of coffee. For me it's a necessity. Something is
    going to kill me eventually; why not coffee?

    Coffee? Nah, that's Yuk. Stick to tea, folks... preferably a
    nice cup of Earl Grey. Hot.

    You know it makes sense!


    What!? Coffee is the Donald Trump of beverages! Tea is soooo Xiden! Jokes aside, try buying good quality coffee, it makes a huge difference.

    In terms of tea, my standard go to is lapsang. Churchills favourite! I do
    not like the bergamot in Earl grey, too flowery for my taste.

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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@21:1/5 to snipeco.2@gmail.com on Mon Dec 2 21:18:07 2024
    On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 18:27:59 +0000
    snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

    JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

    On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 16:22:06 +0000, "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:

    Coffee? Nah, that's Yuk. Stick to tea, folks... preferably a
    nice cup of Earl Grey. Hot.

    You know it makes sense!

    Quite so.

    A Brit drinking a Chinese tea...my, my !

    My Granny said of Earl Grey: "water bewitched, tea begrudged."
    It's not my cup of tea, I like a good, strong Assam.

    Then you'll be wanting a revival of Professor Elemental's Cup of Brown Joyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eELH0ivexKA

    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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  • From Mike Spencer@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Mon Dec 2 18:23:32 2024
    "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> writes:

    Coffee? Nah, that's Yuk. Stick to tea, folks... preferably a
    nice cup of Earl Grey. Hot.

    If you drink tea as served at American lunch counters -- a cup of
    hottish water with a teabag on the side -- you may be good to go.
    Same if you just sprinkle a very few tea leaved on the surface of
    your cup of hot water to generate the bouquet.

    If you drink properly steeped tea, you may be getting as much or more
    caffein than from French press coffee.

    Never mind rural Nova Scotia tea where the pot with resident teabags
    is left on the balk of the stove, more water and tea bags added and
    brought to a boil when another cup is wanted.


    --
    Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 3 10:06:31 2024
    Sn!pe wrote:

    JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

    On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 16:22:06 +0000, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
    <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:

    Coffee? Nah, that's Yuk. Stick to tea, folks...
    preferably a nice cup of Earl Grey. Hot.

    You know it makes sense!

    Quite so.

    A Brit drinking a Chinese tea...my, my !

    My Granny said of Earl Grey: "water bewitched, tea begrudged."
    It's not my cup of tea, I like a good, strong Assam.

    The best Earl Grey uses Assam!

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  • From D@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 3 21:15:34 2024
    On Tue, 3 Dec 2024, Sn!pe wrote:

    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Sn!pe wrote:

    JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

    On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 16:22:06 +0000, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
    <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:

    Coffee? Nah, that's Yuk. Stick to tea, folks...
    preferably a nice cup of Earl Grey. Hot.

    You know it makes sense!

    Quite so.

    A Brit drinking a Chinese tea...my, my !

    My Granny said of Earl Grey: "water bewitched, tea begrudged."
    It's not my cup of tea, I like a good, strong Assam.

    The best Earl Grey uses Assam!

    Mrs Sn!pe's Earl Grey brew is nothing like my industrial strength
    "builders'" Assam though. Hers barely has the strength to crawl
    out of the teapot but a teaspoon can stand up vertically in mine.

    This is the way! I discovered that one key is to not to use tea spoons for
    your tea, but regular spoons instead. Then the strength starts to become
    very masculine!

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 4 09:43:55 2024
    D wrote:


    On Tue, 3 Dec 2024, Sn!pe wrote:

    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    The best Earl Grey uses Assam!

    Mrs Sn!pe's Earl Grey brew is nothing like my industrial
    strength "builders'" Assam though. Hers barely has the
    strength to crawl out of the teapot but a teaspoon can stand
    up vertically in mine.

    This is the way! I discovered that one key is to not to use
    tea spoons for your tea, but regular spoons instead. Then the
    strength starts to become very masculine!

    Use proper spoons for tea you heathen! They are called "tea
    spoons" for a reason!!!

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 4 05:58:55 2024
    On Wed, 04 Dec 2024 09:43:55 GMT, "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news>
    wrote:

    They are called "tea spoons" for a reason!!!

    Marketing

    The teaspoon is first mentioned in an advertisement in a 1686 edition
    of the London Gazettel. Wiki

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Dec 4 12:25:54 2024
    JAB wrote:

    On Wed, 04 Dec 2024 09:43:55 GMT, "Blueshirt"
    <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    They are called "tea spoons" for a reason!!!

    Marketing

    The teaspoon is first mentioned in an advertisement in a 1686
    edition of the London Gazettel. Wiki

    Or they are the perfect size for a scoop of loose leaf tea...
    not too weak, not too strong. So, tea spoon! :-)

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to snipeco.2@gmail.com on Wed Dec 4 06:48:41 2024
    On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 12:28:12 +0000, snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

    There's a teaspoon wiki? Wow, ain't the Internet wonderful!

    AI Overview

    It's spelled "teaspoons":

    Teaspoon: A unit of measurement that's equal to 1/3 of a
    tablespoon, 1/6 of a fluid ounce, or 5 milliliters. It's also a small
    spoon used for stirring tea or coffee.

    Abbreviation: The abbreviation for teaspoon is "tsp.".

    Use: Teaspoons are used in cooking and baking to measure ingredients
    like spices, oils, and vanilla extract. They're also used to dose
    medicine.

    Measuring spoons: Teaspoons are usually part of a set of measuring
    spoons that also includes tablespoons, half teaspoons, quarter
    teaspoons, and eighth teaspoons.



    What Is the Difference Between Dinner Spoons & Teaspoons? : Helpful
    Kitchen Tips
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6_uzevbDDk

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Wed Dec 4 14:13:17 2024
    On Wed, 4 Dec 2024, Blueshirt wrote:

    D wrote:


    On Tue, 3 Dec 2024, Sn!pe wrote:

    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    The best Earl Grey uses Assam!

    Mrs Sn!pe's Earl Grey brew is nothing like my industrial
    strength "builders'" Assam though. Hers barely has the
    strength to crawl out of the teapot but a teaspoon can stand
    up vertically in mine.

    This is the way! I discovered that one key is to not to use
    tea spoons for your tea, but regular spoons instead. Then the
    strength starts to become very masculine!

    Use proper spoons for tea you heathen! They are called "tea
    spoons" for a reason!!!


    The problem is that I'd develop a sore arm by having to move the spoon to
    my jar of tea leaves, and then to the pot 20 times, instead of just doing
    it 3 times with a big spoon.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Dec 4 14:18:33 2024
    On Wed, 4 Dec 2024, JAB wrote:

    On Wed, 04 Dec 2024 09:43:55 GMT, "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news>
    wrote:

    They are called "tea spoons" for a reason!!!

    Marketing

    The teaspoon is first mentioned in an advertisement in a 1686 edition
    of the London Gazettel. Wiki

    Fascinating! So you are saying that the humble tea spoon is actually a
    mind control and marketing experiment from as early as 1686? The
    artificial demand generated, has become so ingrained, that it is now a
    part of our reality?

    Absolutely fascinating!

    Another angle could be that the regular spoon and the act of using it,
    could be an act of freedom and liberating the mind!

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Wed Dec 4 14:16:21 2024
    This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text,
    while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.

    On Wed, 4 Dec 2024, Blueshirt wrote:

    D wrote:


    On Tue, 3 Dec 2024, Sn!pe wrote:

    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    The best Earl Grey uses Assam!

    Mrs Sn!pe's Earl Grey brew is nothing like my industrial
    strength "builders'" Assam though. Hers barely has the
    strength to crawl out of the teapot but a teaspoon can stand
    up vertically in mine.

    This is the way! I discovered that one key is to not to use
    tea spoons for your tea, but regular spoons instead. Then the
    strength starts to become very masculine!

    Use proper spoons for tea you heathen! They are called "tea
    spoons" for a reason!!!


    Zavarka Tea

    How could I have forgotten zavarka, the Russian tea concentrate that makes espresso look like penny candy! Zavarka, killer of the weak hearted! Zavarka, the brown liquor that truly drives the Motherland! Zavarka, that sharpens the world, enlightens the soul, warms the heart! Zavarka, the last tea you'll ever need!

    Russians learned a secret, that by using a large quantity of tea leaf and boiling water, one could saturate the solution with alkaloids and flavanoids, and the tannins would not fall into solution, creating a strongly concentrated tea with no bitterness. Diluted with water and given a dollop of marmalade for sweetness, tea is as ingrained in Russian culture just as deeply as it is in Japan and China.

    Before going into specifics, I feel the need to warn you, this is hard drugs. This stuff can kill you. Do not drink this stuff if you have a weak heart or are
    sensitive to caffeine, or are taking other stimulants. Do not drink a cup of this your first time, you will regret it, start with an ounce and see what happens. Zarvaka is not a joke.

    [​IMG] It all starts with the samovar. On top is a small pot where the zavarka, and the main tank holds the kipyatok, the boiled water which is used to
    make the concentrate and then to dilute it. They used to heat samovars by burning pine cones, now a days they are usually electric. To compensate for the loss of flavor imparted by the pine cone smoke, smoked teas are often used in Russian blends.

    A brief note on buying electric samovars. At least in the US, samovar's are next
    to impossible to purchases new, and as such they need to be imported. Depending
    on the country of origin, there's a chance it will be built to handle a different electrical current then what is availible in your wall. A friend of mine had to re-install the heating element of his Russian samovar, and remarked that it was not a pretty scene inside the pot, and was quite a bit of work to do. Also, because there was no auto-shut off, if the water level were to fall below the top of the heating element, a fire could result. Just so you know what
    you might be getting into. Of course he was specifically looking for a Russian samovar, one that he could fit his Russian tea glass (see below) under the spigot, which he could not do with his Turkish samovar. He was kinda crazy like that.

    It is very important to use kipyatok for the tea making process, the water must be in a rolling boil and not given a chance to cool down. It is recommended that
    you steam the inside of the zavarka pot before mixing the tea and water. Allowing "raw water", no matter how hot it is, to contaminate the tea making will result in bitter tea. Best to use filtered water, if not spring water.

    You use 5 teaspoons of tea per cup of water. Put the tea in the pot, pour in the
    water, and let sit for 20 minutes or till all the leaves settle to the bottom, which ever takes longer. This concentrate is then diluted 10:1 with more boiling
    water.

    The color of the tea should be similar to that of a chestnut. If your glass, cup, or mug has vertical walls (constant horizontal cross-section, that is), you
    can control the color very easily. Observe that the color of the tea does not change if you look from above, assuming the water is completely transparent (the
    proof of this statement is left as an exercise to the reader). Therefore, all you have to do is pour zavarka until it reaches the desired color, and water it down thereafter. Cups with increasing horizontal cross-sections do not offer such an easy method, you will either have to solve an integral equation or make an educated guess.(source) [​IMG]Now of course a glass tea cup is going to get hot, luckily the Russians have just the solution, the podstakannik, literally "thing under the glass". This allows for proper dilution of one's tea while maintaining one's dignity under the pressure of a hot glass in your hands.

    If one were to be so miserable as to be imprisoned in a gulag, you're one bright
    hope for the day was your daily tea ration. It was not uncommon for inmates to store their rations up, and cook them down into chephyr, a thick goo used as a drug substitute. It is of the author's opinion that this is unnecessary for the free individual, and does not condone the use of chephyr as the zarvarka is strong enough to be worrisom to the health.

    Eight ounces of zarvarka is the most I've ever had. Euphoria, body rapture, shape-shifting, energy, crystalline vision verging on the edge of hallucinogenic, later, irrational thoughts, foolishness, exhaustion, and a rather intense crash, literally, to the ground.

    [​IMG] By using such a large quantity of tea leaf and boiling water, you supersaturate the solution with flavanoids and alkaloids before the slower dissolving tannins fall out of solution, the end up trapped in the tea solids. This not only allows an intensly concentrated tea with out bitterness, but certain alkaloids that normally are normally only in trace quantities, to reach active doses. It should also be noted that the leaves of Camellia sinensis has twice as much caffeine by dry weight as roasted coffee beans. We just usually use a whole lot less tea for a cup.

    According to Pendell, "Some of the phenols in the essential oil are dangerous, though in a minimal sort of way. The reputed effects of the essential oils in calming the nerves probably far outweigh the dangers, unless the quantities are excessive." We are talking about excessive quantities of tea here. He goes on "Tea also contains small amounts of theophylline, a strong diuretic, and a more powerful CNS stimulant then caffeine. Theophylline is used for treating asthma and emphysema." He does not offer any suggestions as to which phenols may be problematic.

    A patient of mine once overdosed on normally brewed tea. He drank around two and
    a half gallons of the stuff, over the course of the day and ended up laid out on
    my floor, cool, clammy, pale, pounding heart, weakness, that lasted the better part of an hour. He has previously experimented with a water overdose and said this, was not that, different set of symptoms.

    A warning video on the effects of excessive tea consumption... of sorts...

    If you're going to bother exploring the surprising limits of tea, you best be using some good stuff. Kusmi is one of the best exported brands of Russian tea and I highly recommend their, Troika, Kashmir Tchai, and Samovar blends. This brand is widely distributed and should be able to be found in any gourmet food market or tea shop. Warning, if you make zarvarka on a regular basis, you will find even a large tin will not last long, this stuff can get expensive, avoid bagged tea, it's always far more expensive then loose, and of course buy in bulk
    when availible.

    I'm glad I was finally able to get this all down, I've been wanting to share this for a while and just hadn't gotten around to it. I highly recommend trying out the formulas presented here, it's a good reminder on how easy it is to over look potent plants, especially those we take for granted. Use six times the amount of tea you would normally use and you get a beverage of a very different nature then it's more common variety. It takes 60 fresh leaves of Salvia divinorum to become active, how many plants have you eaten 60 leaves off of in a
    single sitting? What else is out there that we haven't given thought to? That we haven't ever tried eating enough of?

    The Turks also use a samovar and a concentrate for their tea drinking, though I don't know the recipe. Their tea is served diluted 1:1 with water in a demitasse
    glass, with two lumps of sugar, and is as potent as a cup of coffee. In Turkey, should someone decline sugar in their tea, the proper question to ask is "Are you diabetic?" As the only rational reason why someone wouldn't want almost equal measures of tea and sugar, is that it was dangerous to them, and you would
    probably want to offer your guest soemthing other then the sweets you had planned. It's not uncommon for a Turkish man to drink 40 some servings of tea in
    a day, even in ounce and a half glasses, that's a lot of tea, a lot of sugar, and a lot of stimulants. Guess it probably helps even out all the hashish.

    While a bit off topic from this post, but important to the thread, I just uploaded the Royal Chemistry Societies publication How to Brew the Perfect Cup of Tea for your enjoyment and consideration.

    Maybe we SHOULD let the DEA in on this one, let the kids on YouTube get messed up, let the tabloid news run wild, maybe the uproar that would come when they tried to ban tea would be enough to carry out the rest of our goals, would waken
    people up to what's going on with drug laws. People FIGHT for tea, I live in a country that is what it is, because 200 years ago England raised an obscene tax on tea. Like chocolate and coffee, people see tea as their RIGHT, not a privilege. Even the US government has put out propaganda saying "Coffee gives you you're fair share", not "something extra", but what you and everyone else minimally deserves. People kill for their rights.

    It's been too long since I've indulged in some Russian tea, I no longer frequent
    the house where I had first drunk this most intriguing brew, but I know an old China man who runs a dusty little shop not far from here. I think it might be time to go visit him and get my fix of one of the last sanctioned drugs, while I
    still have time.

    Nothing quite like a hot cup of brown joy.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 4 14:19:05 2024
    Sn!pe wrote:

    D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 4 Dec 2024, JAB wrote:

    On Wed, 04 Dec 2024 09:43:55 GMT, "Blueshirt"
    <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    They are called "tea spoons" for a reason!!!

    Marketing

    The teaspoon is first mentioned in an advertisement in a
    1686 edition of the London Gazettel. Wiki

    Fascinating! So you are saying that the humble tea spoon is
    actually a mind control and marketing experiment from as
    early as 1686? The artificial demand generated, has become
    so ingrained, that it is now a part of our reality?

    Absolutely fascinating!

    Another angle could be that the regular spoon and the act of
    using it, could be an act of freedom and liberating the mind!


    ITYF that the teaspoon (in its various conformations) is the
    progeny of union between a dessert spoon and a tablespoon.

    Not THOSE tea spoons, THESE tea spoons... i.e. for tea!

    https://teapeople.co.uk/cdn/shop/products/matcha_spoon2.jpg?v=1680778467

    You bunch of uneducated coffee drinking pagans!!!

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to snipeco.2@gmail.com on Wed Dec 4 09:56:07 2024
    On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 14:33:54 +0000, snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

    Is that treatise your own work or wisdom found on the net?

    That depends, if AI origin, "No, works created solely by artificial intelligence (AI) are not eligible for copyright protection in the
    United States"

    So, be the first to use AI sentences, and be the copyright owner, then
    sue the AI company for infringement, while having your cup of tea.

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Wed Dec 4 13:52:38 2024
    On 12/2/2024 9:15 AM, Blueshirt wrote:
    Auric Hellman wrote:

    On 12/1/2024 10:13 PM, JAB wrote:
    ...
    In a nutshell:

    According to a study published in September in the Endocrine
    Society's Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism,
    consuming coffee and caffeine in moderation on a regular
    basis could help prevent conditions like type 2 diabetes,
    coronary heart disease, and stroke. The amount the
    researchers found that had the most protective effects was
    around 200-300 mg daily, or roughly 2-3 cups of coffee.

    Healthy or not, I can't imagine starting my day without at
    least 2 cups of coffee. For me it's a necessity. Something is
    going to kill me eventually; why not coffee?

    Coffee? Nah, that's Yuk. Stick to tea, folks... preferably a
    nice cup of Earl Grey. Hot.

    You know it makes sense!

    To each their own, but I'll drink black tea or coffee -- My only
    requirement, whichever I drink, I like it plain. No milk or sugar. I
    was probably 12 years old drinking plain black coffee with my
    grandmother. I just finished off my 4th cup, now good for the day!

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  • From D@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 4 22:43:32 2024
    On Wed, 4 Dec 2024, Sn!pe wrote:

    Use proper spoons for tea you heathen! They are called "tea
    spoons" for a reason!!!


    Zavarka Tea

    How could I have forgotten zavarka, the Russian tea concentrate that makes >> espresso look like penny candy! Zavarka, killer of the weak hearted!
    Zavarka, the brown liquor that truly drives the Motherland! Zavarka, that
    sharpens the world, enlightens the soul, warms the heart! Zavarka, the
    last tea you'll ever need!

    Russians learned a secret, that by using a large quantity of tea leaf and
    boiling water, one could saturate the solution with alkaloids and
    flavanoids, and the tannins would not fall into solution, creating a
    strongly concentrated tea with no bitterness. Diluted with water and given >> a dollop of marmalade for sweetness, tea is as ingrained in Russian
    culture just as deeply as it is in Japan and China.
    ...

    Nothing quite like a hot cup of brown joy.

    Bravo! Is that treatise your own work or wisdom found on the net?

    I wish it was. No, this wisdom was found in some dark corner of the net I no longer remember. From time to time, when I find something like this, I save it. Then years later, I can go back to it, but where I originally found it... I have
    no idea!

    Let me know if you try it! =)

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  • From D@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 4 22:40:54 2024
    On Wed, 4 Dec 2024, Sn!pe wrote:

    D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 4 Dec 2024, JAB wrote:

    On Wed, 04 Dec 2024 09:43:55 GMT, "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news>
    wrote:

    They are called "tea spoons" for a reason!!!

    Marketing

    The teaspoon is first mentioned in an advertisement in a 1686 edition
    of the London Gazettel. Wiki


    Fascinating! So you are saying that the humble tea spoon is actually a
    mind control and marketing experiment from as early as 1686? The
    artificial demand generated, has become so ingrained, that it is now a
    part of our reality?

    Absolutely fascinating!

    Another angle could be that the regular spoon and the act of using it,
    could be an act of freedom and liberating the mind!


    ITYF that the teaspoon (in its various conformations) is the
    progeny of union between a dessert spoon and a tablespoon.


    We must check the DNA. This is the way!

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 5 21:54:01 2024
    Wake up and smell the coffee.
    -- Ann Landers

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