Headlines from today:
Vice President Vance Accuses European Leaders of Censoring Free Speech
White House Bars Associated Press From Spaces Like Oval Office and Air
Force One
https://bsky.app/profile/peterbakernyt.bsky.social/post/3li66vjxfrs2z
Headlines from today:
Vice President Vance Accuses European Leaders of Censoring Free Speech
White House Bars Associated Press From Spaces Like Oval Office and Air
Force One
On 2025-02-16, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:
Headlines from today:
Vice President Vance Accuses European Leaders of Censoring Free Speech
White House Bars Associated Press From Spaces Like Oval Office and Air
Force One
Any Americans who remain intelligent enough to recognize irony - and I'm starting to wonder if many remain - are taking note.
The rest of this nation is busy rah-rahing the carnage.
Oh hey, is everyone enjoying the way those grocery prices came down so quickly? I for one am super impressed. Fuck you Joe Biden, the Trump
regime fixed those high grocery prices immediately!!!!!!111111eleven
/snark.
high grocery prices
On Sat, 15 Feb 2025, JAB wrote:
Headlines from today:
Vice President Vance Accuses European Leaders of Censoring
Free Speech
Hello!?! That was no accusation. That was the plain truth.
That is why europe is so hostile, he spoke the truth that as
per european "culture" must not be spoken.
I could go to jail for the content of some of my posts on
usenet, or at least get fines in the 1000 EUR range.
Usenet I find a nice oasis of freedom, from the tyranny of
europe.
Hello!?! That was no accusation. That was the plain truth.
It is true that free speech is under attack here in Europe.
of the UK's Online Safety Act, which comes into effect then."
On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 11:54:09 GMT, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Hello!?! That was no accusation. That was the plain truth.
It is true that free speech is under attack here in Europe.
of the UK's Online Safety Act, which comes into effect then."
Vance is without scruples, like many others in T-Borg's sphere.
"The strongest protections in the Act have been designed for
children. Platforms will be required to prevent children from
accessing harmful and age-inappropriate content and provide
parents and children with clear and accessible ways to report
problems online when they do arise."
These laws are nothing more
curtail free speech
That's why there are people in jail in
the UK for Facebook posts
On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 14:03:23 GMT, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
That's why there are people in jail in
the UK for Facebook posts
Any examples, from a news source?
On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 14:03:23 GMT, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
curtail free speech
On another note, notice how the "free speech" absolutist does
it.
X is blocking links to Signal
1) Man, 41... 2 years.Williams, who pleaded guilty to stirring up racial hatred,
2) Man, 28... 20 months.Parlour had pleaded guilty at Leeds Magistrates' Court on Tuesday to
3) Woman, 53.. 15 monthsJulie Sweeney, 53, of Cheshire, admitted a charge of sending a
Meanwhile...A government source told the Guardian it applied to those who have
D wrote:
On Sat, 15 Feb 2025, JAB wrote:
Headlines from today:
Vice President Vance Accuses European Leaders of Censoring
Free Speech
Hello!?! That was no accusation. That was the plain truth.
That is why europe is so hostile, he spoke the truth that as
per european "culture" must not be spoken.
It is true that free speech is under attack here in Europe.
The guy that runs the "newsgrouper" site [web access to Usenet]
has stopped people posting from the UK for that reason...
"Very sorry, but I've now decided I need to block access to https://newsgrouper.org.uk from the UK, starting 16th March.
This is because I find it impractical to meet the requirements
of the UK's Online Safety Act, which comes into effect then."
I could go to jail for the content of some of my posts on
usenet, or at least get fines in the 1000 EUR range.
I'd read some of your content, you should definitely be sent to
prison!!! :-)
Usenet I find a nice oasis of freedom, from the tyranny of
europe.
We should be thankful that Usenet isn't THAT popular... compared
to the main social media sites. If we had thousands of people
posting here we'd surely have the government's thought police
trying to sniff us out like a dog looking for another dog's arse!
On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 11:54:09 GMT, "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news>
wrote:
Hello!?! That was no accusation. That was the plain truth.
It is true that free speech is under attack here in Europe.
of the UK's Online Safety Act, which comes into effect then."
Vance is without scruples, like many others in T-Borg's sphere.
"The strongest protections in the Act have been designed for children. Platforms will be required to prevent children from accessing harmful
and age-inappropriate content and provide parents and children with
clear and accessible ways to report problems online when they do
arise." https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/online-safety-act-explainer/online-safety-act-explainer
On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 14:03:23 GMT, "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news>
wrote:
These laws are nothing more
Keep in mind "free speech" is not supported by corporations...here's
an example
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:5o6k7jvowuyaquloafzn3cfw/bafkreihii4tlvmfau64sjsufclwzeszt22474wvykoolae5decs2urnnbq@jpeg
Workers have lost their jobs for exercising "free speech"
JAB wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 14:03:23 GMT, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
That's why there are people in jail in
the UK for Facebook posts
Any examples, from a news source?
Sure, how many do you want?
1) Man, 41... 2 years.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c89v5e15wd1o
2) Man, 28... 20 months.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czjy7mykdwno
3) Woman, 53.. 15 months
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz6x105wgz5o
Meanwhile...
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2023/oct/12/england-and-wales-judges-told-not-to-jail-criminals-because-prisons-full-report
On 2/17/2025 4:02 PM, Auric Hellman wrote:
On 2/17/2025 1:15 PM, JAB wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 14:03:23 GMT, "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news>
wrote:
These laws are nothing more
Keep in mind "free speech" is not supported by corporations...here's
an example
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:5o6k7jvowuyaquloafzn3cfw/bafkreihii4tlvmfau64sjsufclwzeszt22474wvykoolae5decs2urnnbq@jpeg
Workers have lost their jobs for exercising "free speech"
"Free Speech" statutes offer you protection from government, not private industry or institution. If these workers publicly said or wrote that goes against policy or creates a negative image, their employer had every right to terminate their employment. May not be fair or right, but that's the way it is.
"Free Speech" statutes offer you protection from government,
JAB wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 14:03:23 GMT, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
curtail free speech
On another note, notice how the "free speech" absolutist does
it.
X is blocking links to Signal
I use Signal... but I don't use X.
On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 14:03:23 GMT, "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news>
wrote:
That's why there are people in jail in
the UK for Facebook posts
Any examples, from a news source?
The governments harassment of us
libertarians, free thinkers and generally rational and decent people.
Vance is without scruples, like many others in T-Borg's sphere.
Yes! Without scruples when it comes to protecting freedom of speech and
the freedom of the american people!
On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 23:02:02 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
The governments harassment of us
libertarians, free thinkers and generally rational and decent people.
Provide the cites....talk is cheap these days.
On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 22:59:30 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
Vance is without scruples, like many others in T-Borg's sphere.
Yes! Without scruples when it comes to protecting freedom of speech and
the freedom of the american people!
JD Vance Says 'Jailing People for Dissenting Views' Is 'A Threat to
Free Speech' --- Amid Elon Musk's Call for '60 Minutes' Staff to Be
Jailed
https://bsky.app/profile/petedominick.bsky.social/post/3lifkpbvg2c2g
Plenty of europeans have been imprisoned for
criticizing immigration.
On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 20:30:14 GMT, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Before Internet/Usenet, scums were out of sight, and out of
mind; so yes, they need to learn the hard way about doing
social critiquing.
I have no bones with discipling these characters. In US, the
First Amendment protects free speech, but it doesn't protect
speech that incites violence.
only making a post on Facebook... and not
out actually doing anything bad.
On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 10:52:29 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
Plenty of europeans have been imprisoned for
criticizing immigration.
Some of your friends?
============================
British Prime Minister Keir Starmer, in office just a month, has
promised to crack down on groups of 'right-wing thugs' who've ignited
a week of racially motivated, anti-immigrant riots in towns and cities
across England. Nearly 400 people have been arrested in the past few
days, and more arrests are expected. Special correspondent Malcolm
Brabant reports.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/hundreds-arrested-as-anti-immigrant-protesters-wreak-havoc-in-across-england
JAB wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 20:30:14 GMT, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Before Internet/Usenet, scums were out of sight, and out of
mind; so yes, they need to learn the hard way about doing
social critiquing.
Clearly!
But at the end of the day these people, however mentally
challenged, were still only making a post on Facebook... and not
out actually doing anything bad.
Prisons were not built for these types of people, they were
built for real criminals.
And what happens when our points of view are deemed to be
unacceptable social critiques?
I have no bones with discipling these characters. In US, the
First Amendment protects free speech, but it doesn't protect
speech that incites violence.
Discipline, yes. But prison? To be kept warm and fed three times
a day at the taxpayers expense for making an unagreeable post
on social media?!
They are humans too!
On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:42:37 +0000, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
only making a post on Facebook... and not
out actually doing anything bad.
In earlier Usenet days, talking bad was policed by some providers and
law enforcement.
July 1st, 1994
Usenet Abuse: Can the Net be Saved From Itself?
Laurence Canter and Martha Siegel, two attorneys practicing law in
Phoenix, are conceivably among the two most reviled dwellers of
cyberspace. A few months ago, the husband and wife law firm of Canter
& Siegel brought upon themselves a virtual firestorm of "flames" --
the network term for angrily scornful messages -- for engaging in constitutionally protected free speech on the Internet
...
...
Some Internet access providers already limit in their services
contracts what subscribers can say and do using their systems. First Amendment issues do not come into play because the limitations are not imposed by any governmental act, but by written agreement between
private parties.
In its Terms of Membership agreement, Delphi Internet Services
prohibits its users from advertising or promoting any commercial
product or services without Delphi's consent. Delphi also prohibits
users from submitting for publication on the system any libelous or
obscene material and requires users to get Delphi's permission before engaging in any mass electronic mailings.
https://freibrunlaw.com/usenet-abuse-can-net-saved
August 21, 2019
'Joke or not, these types of comments are felonies': Police arrest
Florida teen for online threat
A 15-year-old student was arrested in Central Florida after
authorities said he made an online threat to shoot up his school
https://abcnews.go.com/US/joke-types-comments-felonies-police-arrest-florida-teen/story?id=65070169
On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:37:47 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
They are humans too!
Others might say a sub species....who support a magocracy
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