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  • Re: Flight 4819

    From JAB@21:1/5 to JAB on Mon Feb 17 20:23:51 2025
    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 20:16:48 -0600, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

    Atlanta News First
    Delta Air Lines plane flips during landing at Toronto airport

    MyNote - Crosswind was not the issue....

    Bombardier CRJ-900s, the type of plane involved in the crash, are
    built to withstand crosswinds of 35 knots, Schirard told CNN. The
    crosswinds that hit the plane at a 45-degree angle were only around 23
    or 24 knots, he said.

    Schirard said these winds, despite being within the plane's limit, may
    have still played a role when coupled with the snow and ice on the
    runway.

    "[The crosswind] is within those demonstrated components. And the
    pilots knew that coming in," he told CNN. "Now...that doesn't make it
    easy landing."

    "When they're coming in and they're trying to land in that crosswind,
    and then we couple that with the snow and the ice...If they hit a
    solid patch of compressed snow, ice on that runway, coupled with a
    strong dressing crosswind, it could absolutely load them off the side
    of the runway," he continued.

    https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/toronto-delta-flight-crash-injuries-updates-b2699796.html

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 17 20:16:48 2025
    Atlanta News First
    Delta Air Lines plane flips during landing at Toronto airport


    USA Today
    Delta Air Lines plane crashes, flips at Toronto airport: 18 injured,
    including 1 child

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Feb 18 13:00:01 2025
    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 20:16:48 -0600, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

    Delta Air Lines plane flips during landing at Toronto airport

    It appears to have been a hard landing...loss of lift...with landing
    gear failing (collapsing). It's possible crosswind decreased enough
    to cause aircraft to drop down hard.


    A Pilot's Take on the Delta Crash in Toronto
    https://youtu.be/ywx9BXqTQdE?t=572

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 18 18:53:57 2025
    seats built to withstand impacts of up to 16 times the force of
    gravity.
    ...
    ...
    Peter Carlson, who was traveling to Toronto for a paramedics
    conference, said the landing was "very forceful."

    "All the sudden everything just kind of went sideways and the next
    thing I know, it's kind of a blink and I'm upside down still strapped
    in," he told CBC News.
    ...
    ..

    Juan Browne, a commercial pilot who discusses aviation incidents on
    his popular YouTube channel, said preliminary data suggests the speed
    and rate of descent, crosswinds and the weather were "within limits."

    But Browne raised concerns about the pilots' actions before landing.

    "It appears that the aircraft simply did not flare at all," Browne
    said. Flaring slows the aircraft's rate of descent. "They just drove
    it into the runway."

    https://www.woodtv.com/news/national/ap-us-news/ap-all-80-aboard-a-delta-jet-survive-after-it-flips-then-bursts-into-flames-on-a-toronto-runway/

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to adhellman1@gmail.com on Tue Feb 18 21:10:24 2025
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 20:36:06 -0500, Auric Hellman
    <adhellman1@gmail.com> wrote:

    I've seen the videos of the crash


    This one appears to show the pilot did not flare the plane...or wind
    gust was reduced greatly before touchdown.

    https://x.com/Rainmaker1973/status/1891814805075361952

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Auric Hellman on Wed Feb 19 09:50:02 2025
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025, Auric Hellman wrote:

    On 2/17/2025 9:16 PM, JAB wrote:

    Atlanta News First
    Delta Air Lines plane flips during landing at Toronto airport


    USA Today
    Delta Air Lines plane crashes, flips at Toronto airport: 18 injured,
    including 1 child



    I've seen the videos of the crash, and that nobody was killed is nothing short of a miracle.

    This is the truth! We must be thankful that all survived! It makes me
    happy! =)

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 22 10:40:35 2025
    Update on Delta 4819 - Who were the pilots?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1sHnkF-088

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