• Make American Great Again

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 4 11:03:00 2025
    Stock tumble for second-straight day as tariffs take effect

    A total of $3.4 trillion in value has now been wiped out since
    November 6.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/business/markets/stock-tumble-second-straight-day-tariffs-take-effect-rcna194681

    Good news for Short Sellers:-)

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Mar 4 21:51:43 2025
    On Tue, 4 Mar 2025, JAB wrote:

    Stock tumble for second-straight day as tariffs take effect

    A total of $3.4 trillion in value has now been wiped out since
    November 6.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/business/markets/stock-tumble-second-straight-day-tariffs-take-effect-rcna194681

    Good news for Short Sellers:-)


    That's nothing. ALl those tariffs equalled a 3% drop today. That means he
    can impose 10x the amount of tariffs before it gets nasty.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Tue Mar 4 18:35:48 2025
    On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 21:51:43 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    ALl those tariffs equalled

    Now the Borg has second thoughts

    "Trump could scale back Canada, Mexico tariffs Wednesday, Lutnick
    says"

    Interesting, if tariffs remain, the state of Texas will suffer the
    most

    "Because Texas is the origin, destination or transit point of
    two-thirds of binational trade, clearly, Texas will be more affected
    than other states that are not as integrated," Tony Payan, the
    director of the Center for the U.S. and Mexico at Rice University's
    Baker Institute, tells Axios."

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 4 20:26:20 2025
    The New Republic
    Trump Hit by Brutal Fox News Graphic on Tariffs as More Bad Polls Land =============

    More Bad Polls Land

    Oh, the natives are getting pissed off

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 4 21:33:23 2025
    (WSJ) - The world economy could face a crash similar to the Great
    Depression of the 1930s unless the U.S. rows back on its plans to
    impose steep tariffs on imports, a senior official at the
    International Chamber of Commerce warned

    "Our deep concern is that this could be the start of a downward spiral
    that puts us in 1930s trade-war territory," said Andrew Wilson, deputy secretary-general of the ICC, which promotes global business and
    trade. High tariffs on foreign goods imported into the U.S. in that
    decade contributed to a damaging global recession. The downturn
    plunged nearly a third of the global workforce into unemployment and
    slashed production at heavyweight industrial economies Germany and the
    U.S. by half, according to research from the International Monetary
    Fund.

    https://www.wsj.com/economy/trade/tariff-war-risks-sinking-world-into-new-great-depression-235fffeb

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Mar 5 13:33:00 2025
    On Tue, 4 Mar 2025, JAB wrote:

    On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 21:51:43 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    ALl those tariffs equalled

    Now the Borg has second thoughts

    "Trump could scale back Canada, Mexico tariffs Wednesday, Lutnick
    says"

    Interesting, if tariffs remain, the state of Texas will suffer the
    most

    "Because Texas is the origin, destination or transit point of
    two-thirds of binational trade, clearly, Texas will be more affected
    than other states that are not as integrated," Tony Payan, the
    director of the Center for the U.S. and Mexico at Rice University's
    Baker Institute, tells Axios."


    Trump is learning his lesson the hard way. At the end of the day, markets
    are more powerful than politicians.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Wed Mar 5 10:24:53 2025
    On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 13:33:00 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Trump is learning his lesson the hard way.

    What we don't know as a fact is if these tariffs are related to

    1. Drug trafficking, and/or
    2. T-Borg receiving $$$ via exemptions

    Trump administration signals that the tariffs against Canada and
    Mexico may soon have exemptions

    https://apnews.com/article/trump-tariffs-canada-mexico-china-lutnick-2b269614084027a4894aa14f3dc16227

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Wed Mar 5 12:45:17 2025
    On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 13:33:00 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Trump is learning his lesson the hard way.

    Trump may roll back Mexico and Canada tariffs as soon as today
    ==============

    A first class Dummkopf....it shows consequences are not considered.

    He's not even close to evaluating consequences...a young adult type of reasoning....that does not consult with others.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Mar 5 22:14:36 2025
    On Wed, 5 Mar 2025, JAB wrote:

    On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 13:33:00 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Trump is learning his lesson the hard way.

    Trump may roll back Mexico and Canada tariffs as soon as today
    ==============

    A first class Dummkopf....it shows consequences are not considered.

    He's not even close to evaluating consequences...a young adult type of reasoning....that does not consult with others.


    He is a short termist businessman and that is why the voters love him.
    They are tired of politicians who talk endlessly and become filthy rich.
    Much better to have someone start being filthy rich, and who _acts_.

    This is part of his recipe for success.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Mar 5 22:13:24 2025
    On Wed, 5 Mar 2025, JAB wrote:

    On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 13:33:00 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Trump is learning his lesson the hard way.

    What we don't know as a fact is if these tariffs are related to

    1. Drug trafficking, and/or
    2. T-Borg receiving $$$ via exemptions

    Trump administration signals that the tariffs against Canada and
    Mexico may soon have exemptions

    https://apnews.com/article/trump-tariffs-canada-mexico-china-lutnick-2b269614084027a4894aa14f3dc16227

    We will see in time.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Wed Mar 5 15:59:47 2025
    On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 22:14:36 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    They are tired of politicians who talk endlessly and become filthy rich.

    Oh, like the T-Borg is not swimming in the swamp's monies. Did you
    donate 1 million to dine with him?

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Wed Mar 5 18:18:54 2025
    On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 22:14:36 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    He is a short termist businessman

    Oh, creating and executing Project 2025 is way beyond his pay grade.

    Even executing his tariff game, which he has dreamed about for years,
    is beyond his skill set.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Thu Mar 6 11:49:43 2025
    On Wed, 5 Mar 2025, JAB wrote:

    On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 22:14:36 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    They are tired of politicians who talk endlessly and become filthy rich.

    Oh, like the T-Borg is not swimming in the swamp's monies. Did you
    donate 1 million to dine with him?

    Donating is voluntary, no complaints can be found there. Also, I think
    there was another part to my message.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Thu Mar 6 07:20:33 2025
    On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 11:49:43 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Also, I think
    there was another part to my message.

    This?
    This is part of his recipe for success.

    Paul Krugman
    ....
    ...
    What's a rug-pull? A textbook example just happened in Argentina,
    where Javier Milei, the president, touted a new cryptocurrency called
    $Libra. The currency's price soared as thousands of small players
    bought in, while insiders sold their holdings for huge profits. Then
    the price collapsed, leaving small players owning worthless bits of
    code.

    Does this sound familiar? It should: the $Trump coin, introduced with
    great fanfare by Trump in January, attracted billions in dollars from
    MAGA fans, then quickly lost more than 80 percent of its value. The
    great bulk of $Trump coins were initially bought by a handful of
    "whales," large investors, although it's not clear whether their
    intent was to scam small buyers or simply to bribe the president.

    Paul Krugman
    Mar 6

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to JAB on Thu Mar 6 14:04:02 2025
    JAB wrote:

    Paul Krugman
    ....
    ...
    What's a rug-pull? A textbook example just happened in
    Argentina, where Javier Milei, the president, touted a new
    cryptocurrency called $Libra. The currency's price soared as
    thousands of small players bought in, while insiders sold
    their holdings for huge profits. Then the price collapsed,
    leaving small players owning worthless bits of code.

    Does this sound familiar? It should: the $Trump coin,
    introduced with great fanfare by Trump in January, attracted
    billions in dollars from MAGA fans, then quickly lost more
    than 80 percent of its value. The great bulk of $Trump coins
    were initially bought by a handful of "whales," large
    investors, although it's not clear whether their intent was to
    scam small buyers or simply to bribe the president.

    Crypto is just a modern day Ponzi scheme...

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Thu Mar 6 22:33:31 2025
    On Thu, 6 Mar 2025, Blueshirt wrote:

    JAB wrote:

    Paul Krugman
    ....
    ...
    What's a rug-pull? A textbook example just happened in
    Argentina, where Javier Milei, the president, touted a new
    cryptocurrency called $Libra. The currency's price soared as
    thousands of small players bought in, while insiders sold
    their holdings for huge profits. Then the price collapsed,
    leaving small players owning worthless bits of code.

    Does this sound familiar? It should: the $Trump coin,
    introduced with great fanfare by Trump in January, attracted
    billions in dollars from MAGA fans, then quickly lost more
    than 80 percent of its value. The great bulk of $Trump coins
    were initially bought by a handful of "whales," large
    investors, although it's not clear whether their intent was to
    scam small buyers or simply to bribe the president.

    Crypto is just a modern day Ponzi scheme...


    This is the truth! It has no intrinsic value, and people buy it only due
    to the expectation that it will increase in value.

    The only trace of value of crypto is its utility. It is good for:

    1. Tax evasion.
    2. Avoiding currency embargos and restrictions.

    Does anyone seriously think the government will allow that? They won't.
    Instead they will only endorse crypto that plays nice with the government, which means it will no longer be anonymous, and just a worse currency in
    every way, with higher transaction costs, and less useful.

    I cannot understand crypto ninjas. I'm certain crypto will double in
    value, and double again, and people will laugh at me.

    Meanwhile I'll continue to happily and successfully invest in the stock
    market and global dividend payers. It has served me well for decades.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Thu Mar 6 15:45:29 2025
    On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 22:33:31 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    The only trace of value of crypto is its utility. It is good for:

    1. Tax evasion.

    "The IRS is clear crypto may be subject to Capital Gains Tax or Income
    Tax in the US. You'll pay Capital Gains Tax anytime you make a gain
    from selling, trading, or spending crypto. You'll pay Income Tax when
    you earn new tokens - like mining rewards, staking rewards, and even
    airdrops."

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Fri Mar 7 11:36:25 2025
    On Thu, 6 Mar 2025, JAB wrote:

    On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 22:33:31 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    The only trace of value of crypto is its utility. It is good for:

    1. Tax evasion.

    "The IRS is clear crypto may be subject to Capital Gains Tax or Income
    Tax in the US. You'll pay Capital Gains Tax anytime you make a gain
    from selling, trading, or spending crypto. You'll pay Income Tax when
    you earn new tokens - like mining rewards, staking rewards, and even airdrops."

    True. That is why crypto is meaningless. Why not engage in trading and investment in something with a fundamental underlying value such as a good business?

    I literally see now purpose in crypto. On the other hand, it will be interesting to see if the US will make Monero and other crypto currencies
    that are private by design illegal.

    For a book on this theme I recommend the Thieves emporium.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to JAB on Mon Mar 10 12:10:46 2025
    On Tue, 04 Mar 2025 21:33:23 -0600, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

    (WSJ) - The world economy could face a crash similar to the Great
    Depression of the 1930s unless the U.S. rows back on its plans to
    impose steep tariffs on imports, a senior official at the
    International Chamber of Commerce warned

    https://www.wsj.com/economy/trade/tariff-war-risks-sinking-world-into-new-great-depression-235fffeb


    US stocks drop after Trump says he won't rule out a recession

    US stocks tumbled Monday, continuing a steep selloff driven by
    concerns about the impact of President Donald Trump's tariffs on
    economic growth.

    All three major indexes opened sharply lower Monday after Trump said
    the US economy would see "a period of transition" and refused to rule
    out a recession, in an interview that aired Sunday.

    When asked on Fox News' "Sunday Morning Futures With Maria Bartiromo"
    if he was expecting a recession this year, Trump said "I hate to
    predict things like that. There is a period of transition because what
    we're doing is very big."

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/10/investing/us-stocks-drop-after-trump-says-he-wont-rule-out-a-recession/index.html

    period of transition

    He had no idea of future consequences....differences in wages between
    US workers vs low paying workers elsewhere means if jobs were brought
    back to US, the cost of these products would be much higher.

    what we're doing is very big

    Oh, he has a "plan" but does not explain it....he's just playing with
    a control panel, and not knowing the end result.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Mon Mar 10 22:27:21 2025
    On Mon, 10 Mar 2025, JAB wrote:

    On Tue, 04 Mar 2025 21:33:23 -0600, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

    (WSJ) - The world economy could face a crash similar to the Great
    Depression of the 1930s unless the U.S. rows back on its plans to
    impose steep tariffs on imports, a senior official at the
    International Chamber of Commerce warned

    https://www.wsj.com/economy/trade/tariff-war-risks-sinking-world-into-new-great-depression-235fffeb


    US stocks drop after Trump says he won't rule out a recession

    US stocks tumbled Monday, continuing a steep selloff driven by
    concerns about the impact of President Donald Trump's tariffs on
    economic growth.

    All three major indexes opened sharply lower Monday after Trump said
    the US economy would see "a period of transition" and refused to rule
    out a recession, in an interview that aired Sunday.

    When asked on Fox News' "Sunday Morning Futures With Maria Bartiromo"
    if he was expecting a recession this year, Trump said "I hate to
    predict things like that. There is a period of transition because what
    we're doing is very big."

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/10/investing/us-stocks-drop-after-trump-says-he-wont-rule-out-a-recession/index.html

    period of transition

    He had no idea of future consequences....differences in wages between
    US workers vs low paying workers elsewhere means if jobs were brought
    back to US, the cost of these products would be much higher.

    what we're doing is very big

    Oh, he has a "plan" but does not explain it....he's just playing with
    a control panel, and not knowing the end result.


    Ahh... wonderful! Let's see if we'll have a little 1 year recession on our hands. Time to save, wait, and then buy stocks after a 20%-30% drop. =D

    This I have always done in the past during recessions, and I have been
    rewarded greatly for it!

    I am also waiting for Musks Icaros moment, when he will soar too high and
    get burnt by the sun. This is just human psychology. The psyche snaps with
    too much power, and then the persons snaps.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Mon Mar 10 19:08:09 2025
    On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 22:27:21 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    I am also waiting for Musks Icaros moment

    He's a Pinball Wizard who does not understand his "accomplishments"
    come from standing on the shoulders of giants, and others doing the
    grunt work.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=288cvHTOn_k

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Mar 11 10:25:15 2025
    On Mon, 10 Mar 2025, JAB wrote:

    On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 22:27:21 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    I am also waiting for Musks Icaros moment

    He's a Pinball Wizard who does not understand his "accomplishments"
    come from standing on the shoulders of giants, and others doing the
    grunt work.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=288cvHTOn_k


    Pinball wizard? I have never heard of this before.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Tue Mar 11 08:53:56 2025
    On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 10:25:15 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Pinball wizard?

    Tommy (The Who album)
    ...
    ...
    Synopsis
    ...
    ...
    As Tommy grows older, he discovers that he can feel vibrations
    sufficiently well to become an expert pinball player ("Pinball
    Wizard"). His parents take him to a respected doctor ("There's a
    Doctor"), who determines that the boy's disabilities are psychosomatic
    rather than physical. Tommy is told by the Doctor to "Go to the
    Mirror!", and his parents notice he can stare at his reflection. After
    seeing Tommy spend extended periods staring at a mirror in the house,
    his mother smashes it out of frustration ("Smash the Mirror"). This
    removes Tommy's mental block, and he recovers his senses, realising he
    can become a powerful leader ("Sensation"). He starts a religious
    movement ("I'm Free"), which generates fervour among its adherents
    ("Sally Simpson") and expands into a holiday camp ("Welcome" /
    "Tommy's Holiday Camp"). However, Tommy's followers ultimately reject
    his teachings and leave the camp ("We're Not Gonna Take It"). Tommy
    retreats inward again ("See Me, Feel Me") with his "continuing
    statement of wonder at that which encompasses him".[7]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_(The_Who_album)

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Mar 11 21:51:45 2025
    On Tue, 11 Mar 2025, JAB wrote:

    On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 10:25:15 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    Pinball wizard?

    Tommy (The Who album)
    ...
    ...
    Synopsis
    ...
    ...
    As Tommy grows older, he discovers that he can feel vibrations
    sufficiently well to become an expert pinball player ("Pinball
    Wizard"). His parents take him to a respected doctor ("There's a
    Doctor"), who determines that the boy's disabilities are psychosomatic
    rather than physical. Tommy is told by the Doctor to "Go to the
    Mirror!", and his parents notice he can stare at his reflection. After
    seeing Tommy spend extended periods staring at a mirror in the house,
    his mother smashes it out of frustration ("Smash the Mirror"). This
    removes Tommy's mental block, and he recovers his senses, realising he
    can become a powerful leader ("Sensation"). He starts a religious
    movement ("I'm Free"), which generates fervour among its adherents
    ("Sally Simpson") and expands into a holiday camp ("Welcome" /
    "Tommy's Holiday Camp"). However, Tommy's followers ultimately reject
    his teachings and leave the camp ("We're Not Gonna Take It"). Tommy
    retreats inward again ("See Me, Feel Me") with his "continuing
    statement of wonder at that which encompasses him".[7]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_(The_Who_album)


    Fascinating! Thank you.

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