• Trump's Approval Rating Goes Underwater

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 5 15:39:34 2025
    Trump's Approval Rating Goes Underwater

    Even as he was delivering the most partisan address to Congress maybe
    ever, Donald Trump's public support seemed to be regularly eroding. An
    updated FiveThirtyEight average of Trump's approval ratings on March 4
    showed him going underwater for the first time since reoccupying the
    White House, with 47.6 percent approval and 47.9 percent disapproval.
    That puts Trump back in the same territory of public opinion he
    occupied during his first term as president, where (per Gallup) he
    never achieved more than 50 percent job approval, and averaged a mere
    41 percent.
    ...
    ...
    At present Trump has lost whatever presidential "honeymoon" he
    initially enjoyed after his return to the White House, and needs to
    find new converts to return to genuine popularity. He's not off to a
    great start.

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/trump-approval-rating-goes-underwater.html

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  • From Theory11@21:1/5 to Auric Hellman on Thu Mar 6 04:23:35 2025
    On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 4:08:14 +0000, Auric Hellman wrote:

    On 3/5/2025 4:39 PM, JAB wrote:
    Trump's Approval Rating Goes Underwater

    Even as he was delivering the most partisan address to Congress maybe
    ever, Donald Trump's public support seemed to be regularly eroding. An
    updated FiveThirtyEight average of Trump's approval ratings on March 4
    showed him going underwater for the first time since reoccupying the
    White House, with 47.6 percent approval and 47.9 percent disapproval.
    That puts Trump back in the same territory of public opinion he
    occupied during his first term as president, where (per Gallup) he
    never achieved more than 50 percent job approval, and averaged a mere
    41 percent.

    When will people learn that polls are meaningless? They're generally
    wrong and when it comes to Trump, he could care less.

    People in the United States had a poll. It was called an election.
    Donald Trump won. That is the only poll that matters.

    It's strange how all of a sudden some people have a problem with
    democracy yet call themselves Democrats.

    Suck it up folks - you'll get to go again in '28.

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Mar 5 23:14:41 2025
    On Wed, 05 Mar 2025 15:39:34 -0600
    JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

    White House, with 47.6 percent approval and 47.9 percent disapproval.
    That puts Trump back in the same territory of public opinion he
    occupied during his first term as president, where (per Gallup) he

    I dunno. He didn't get my vote, but 47% doesn't look bad to me. Talk
    to me when he's at 30% and angry, unemployed rednecks are oiling up
    their weapons. 47% seems OK to me.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Retrograde on Thu Mar 6 11:53:55 2025
    On Wed, 5 Mar 2025, Retrograde wrote:

    On Wed, 05 Mar 2025 15:39:34 -0600
    JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

    White House, with 47.6 percent approval and 47.9 percent disapproval.
    That puts Trump back in the same territory of public opinion he
    occupied during his first term as president, where (per Gallup) he

    I dunno. He didn't get my vote, but 47% doesn't look bad to me. Talk
    to me when he's at 30% and angry, unemployed rednecks are oiling up
    their weapons. 47% seems OK to me.


    Note that it is very common for the popularity of the winning party to
    drop after an election when promises are not delivered upon.

    I think the current figures are quite good aactually.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Auric Hellman on Thu Mar 6 11:52:59 2025
    On Wed, 5 Mar 2025, Auric Hellman wrote:

    On 3/5/2025 4:39 PM, JAB wrote:
    Trump's Approval Rating Goes Underwater

    Even as he was delivering the most partisan address to Congress maybe
    ever, Donald Trump's public support seemed to be regularly eroding. An
    updated FiveThirtyEight average of Trump's approval ratings on March 4
    showed him going underwater for the first time since reoccupying the
    White House, with 47.6 percent approval and 47.9 percent disapproval.
    That puts Trump back in the same territory of public opinion he
    occupied during his first term as president, where (per Gallup) he
    never achieved more than 50 percent job approval, and averaged a mere
    41 percent.
    ...
    ...
    At present Trump has lost whatever presidential "honeymoon" he
    initially enjoyed after his return to the White House, and needs to
    find new converts to return to genuine popularity. He's not off to a
    great start.

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/trump-approval-rating-goes-underwater.html



    When will people learn that polls are meaningless? They're generally wrong and when it comes to Trump, he could care less.

    This is the truth! I remember when all of mainstream media in unison stood
    up and declared that Trump will not win. Twice has he proved them wrong.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to card.master@bee92.invalid.com on Thu Mar 6 07:22:15 2025
    On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 04:23:35 +0000, Theory11
    <card.master@bee92.invalid.com> wrote:

    Suck it up folks - you'll get to go again in '28.

    2026 ? If enough congressional blue are elected.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to adhellman1@gmail.com on Thu Mar 6 16:48:12 2025
    On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 16:58:28 -0500, Auric Hellman
    <adhellman1@gmail.com> wrote:

    I have no idea if Trump's policies will work
    or not.

    "If you shock and awe our system with no plan -- other than right-wing
    woke revenge and Trump's 19th-century view of geopolitics and trade --
    watch what happens to our slice of the global pie and everyone
    else's."

    Thomas L. Friedman

    Paywall

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/05/opinion/trump-musk-ukraine-iraq.html

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Auric Hellman on Fri Mar 7 11:43:24 2025
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    On Thu, 6 Mar 2025, Auric Hellman wrote:

    On 3/6/2025 5:53 AM, D wrote:


    On Wed, 5 Mar 2025, Retrograde wrote:

    On Wed, 05 Mar 2025 15:39:34 -0600
    JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

    White House, with 47.6 percent approval and 47.9 percent disapproval.
    That puts Trump back in the same territory of public opinion he
    occupied during his first term as president, where (per Gallup) he

    I dunno. He didn't get my vote, but 47% doesn't look bad to me.  Talk
    to me when he's at 30% and angry, unemployed rednecks are oiling up
    their weapons.  47% seems OK to me.


    Note that it is very common for the popularity of the winning party to drop >> after an election when promises are not delivered upon.

    I think the current figures are quite good aactually.


    Point well taken. Despite what they may announce publicly about how they know results take time, people expect instant results and if they don't get it; it pisses them off. I have no idea if Trump's policies will work or not. A few I like (boot out criminal immigrants, no military aid to ungrateful countries) and some I don't (picking fights with Canada, Panama, Denmark)

    This is the truth! I am curious about who will take over after Trump, and,
    iof the MAGA movement after the next 3.5 year will have spent its energy.

    If wonder if the democrats will produce a "right"-wing democrat around
    45-50, male and white, in order to try and win the next presidential
    election.

    The idea is that they strayed too far to the left, and alienated everyone.
    If they move to the right I think they have a good chance to win the next election.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Auric Hellman on Sun Mar 9 11:56:42 2025
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    On Sat, 8 Mar 2025, Auric Hellman wrote:

    On 3/7/2025 5:43 AM, D wrote:


    On Thu, 6 Mar 2025, Auric Hellman wrote:

    On 3/6/2025 5:53 AM, D wrote:


    On Wed, 5 Mar 2025, Retrograde wrote:

    On Wed, 05 Mar 2025 15:39:34 -0600
    JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

    White House, with 47.6 percent approval and 47.9 percent disapproval. >>>>>> That puts Trump back in the same territory of public opinion he
    occupied during his first term as president, where (per Gallup) he

    I dunno. He didn't get my vote, but 47% doesn't look bad to me.  Talk >>>>> to me when he's at 30% and angry, unemployed rednecks are oiling up
    their weapons.  47% seems OK to me.


    Note that it is very common for the popularity of the winning party to >>>> drop after an election when promises are not delivered upon.

    I think the current figures are quite good aactually.


    Point well taken. Despite what they may announce publicly about how they >>> know results take time, people expect instant results and if they don't
    get it; it pisses them off. I have no idea if Trump's policies will work >>> or not. A few I like (boot out criminal immigrants, no military aid to
    ungrateful countries) and some I don't (picking fights with Canada,
    Panama, Denmark)

    This is the truth! I am curious about who will take over after Trump, and, >> iof the MAGA movement after the next 3.5 year will have spent its energy.

    If wonder if the democrats will produce a "right"-wing democrat around
    45-50, male and white, in order to try and win the next presidential
    election.

    The idea is that they strayed too far to the left, and alienated everyone. >> If they move to the right I think they have a good chance to win the next
    election.


    A present day neophyte, much like Obama was for the left.

    Yes! Is there such a person? And are the center/right forces powerful
    enough to go against the extreme left in the party that seems to have had
    a strangle hold on it for a long time?

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Sun Mar 9 08:17:49 2025
    On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 11:56:42 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    And are the center/right forces powerful
    enough to go against the extreme left

    Devil's followers vs God's followers?

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