On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 20:52:02 -0400, Auric Hellman
<adhellman1@gmail.com> wrote:

Why on an American college campus
is protest being stifled?

They marched by the thousands, on campuses from coast to coast. At
different times they chose different targets: the Pentagon, Presidents
Nixon and Johnson, the draft, Dow Chemical. But the students all acted
from a common belief that the Vietnam War was wrong. As that conflict escalated, the protests grew in strength, and some turned violent.
They also triggered a backlash.
....
....
But the violent consequences of some of those protests helped trigger
a backlash of support for the government and targeted corporations
like Dow. A record number of University of Wisconsin students signed
up for Dow interviews in the wake of the October 1967 bloodshed.
Wisconsin legislation held hearings denouncing student protests. And
local newspaper editorials overwhelmingly supported Dow and criticized
the students. The pro-war group Young Americans for Freedom saw
increased enrollment in its University of Wisconsin chapter. A
right-wing student newspaper was founded, the Badger Herald. And polls
after the Dow protests showed that large majorities felt the
demonstrations were "acts of disloyalty" against the soldiers in
Vietnam that hurt the larger antiwar cause.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/two-days-in-october-student-antiwar-protests-and-backlash/

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On Fri, 21 Mar 2025, Auric Hellman wrote:

Columbia Yields to Trump in Battle Over Federal Funding

School to ban masks, empower police and rein in controversial academic department

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/columbia-university-trump-demands-federal-funding-e94d41ca

I'm trying my best to recall any situation when then Israelis were denounced for some action or another that the chant "anti-Semite" wasn't echoed in return. I'm sure there were some Jew-haters in the crowd, but most were protesting the atrocities being committed by the IDF. Why on an American college campus is protest being stifled?

I think the problem has been the leftist and woke infiltration of
campuses. Clearly they have been ideological Karen factories, and Trump realizes, rightly, that this has to stop. Education should be neutral and
not weaponized to indoctrinate the young to be future socialist.

As for Israel, they are fighting the good fight. Hamas started it, so
israel has a right to finish the fight.

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On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 13:00:02 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Education should be neutral and not weaponized to indoctrinate
the young to be future socialist.

Oh, but it is "weaponized" to support capitalism.

Btw, was Jesus a capitalist like Musk or Trump or a socialist?

indoctrinate

It seems the elite Rs got indoctrinated with elitism.

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On Sat, 22 Mar 2025, JAB wrote:

On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 13:00:02 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Education should be neutral and not weaponized to indoctrinate
the young to be future socialist.

Oh, but it is "weaponized" to support capitalism.

Not at all. Capitalism is science. It is proven by science that it is the
best economic system that maximizies material welfare for everyone, over
time.

Granted... the choice, that we want material welfare is a choice of value.
But that's fine by me. If you want less material welfare, I'm happy that schools are geared towards producing more. Sorry about that! ;)

Btw, was Jesus a capitalist like Musk or Trump or a socialist?

He was a capitalist ninja! See page 739 for proof!

indoctrinate

It seems the elite Rs got indoctrinated with elitism.

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On Sat, 22 Mar 2025, Auric Hellman wrote:

On 3/22/2025 8:00 AM, D wrote:

On Fri, 21 Mar 2025, Auric Hellman wrote:

Columbia Yields to Trump in Battle Over Federal Funding

School to ban masks, empower police and rein in controversial academic
department

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/columbia-university-trump-
demands-federal-funding-e94d41ca

I'm trying my best to recall any situation when then Israelis were
denounced for some action or another that the chant "anti-Semite" wasn't >>> echoed in return. I'm sure there were some Jew-haters in the crowd, but
most were protesting the atrocities being committed by the IDF. Why on an >>> American college campus is protest being stifled?

I think the problem has been the leftist and woke infiltration of campuses. >> Clearly they have been ideological Karen factories, and Trump realizes,
rightly, that this has to stop. Education should be neutral and not
weaponized to indoctrinate the young to be future socialist.

As for Israel, they are fighting the good fight. Hamas started it, so
israel has a right to finish the fight.

From 1945 to 1948, refugees from Europe and American Zionists flooded to Palestine. The UN sanctioned a partition, which was rejected and war began. Apparently the Palestinians didn't think having half their land stolen from them was such a good deal. Since 1948 until 2023, the most conservative estimates are 30,000 Palestinians killed in the occupied territories. Many of their homes were confiscated and the people expelled. Gaza itself was practically cut off from the rest of the world and living under a harsh occupation. How do you figure they started the war? Granted their attack was barbaric, but no different or worse than what other nations have faced in their history. Retaliation for the OCT 7th is understandable but there is no justification for the heavy response of the IDF.

1948? Get over it! Once you admit historical trading of guilt, everyone on
the planet is guilty of something going back 100 000 years. Since you set
the limit at 70 years, why not at 140 or 100 000? It's completely
arbitrary.

But I read that the arabians will move to africa, and then there can
finally be peace in the middle east!

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On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 20:52:02 -0400, Auric Hellman
<adhellman1@gmail.com> wrote:

Why on
an American college campus is protest being stifled?

Decades Ago, Columbia Refused to Pay Trump $400 Million

A quarter-century ago, the university was looking to expand. It
considered, and rejected, property owned by Donald Trump. He did not
forget it.

Donald Trump was demanding $400 million from Columbia University.

When he did not get his way, he stormed out of a meeting with
university trustees and later publicly castigated the university
president as "a dummy" and "a total moron."
...
...
Some former university officials are quietly wondering whether the
ultimately unsuccessful property transaction sowed the seeds of Mr.
Trump's current focus on Columbia. His administration has demanded
that the university turn over vast control of its policies and even
curricular decisions in its effort to quell antisemitism on campus. It
has also canceled federal grants and contracts at Columbia --- valued
at $400 million.

That drama dates back 25 years.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/21/nyregion/trump-columbia-university-400-million.html

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On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 16:09:48 -0400, Auric Hellman
<adhellman1@gmail.com> wrote:

Apparently the Palestinians didn't think having half their land
stolen from them was such a good deal.

A long story...before WWII

Mandatory Palestine
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine>

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On Sun, 23 Mar 2025, Auric Hellman wrote:

On 3/22/2025 7:37 PM, D wrote:

On Sat, 22 Mar 2025, Auric Hellman wrote:

On 3/22/2025 8:00 AM, D wrote:

On Fri, 21 Mar 2025, Auric Hellman wrote:

Columbia Yields to Trump in Battle Over Federal Funding

School to ban masks, empower police and rein in controversial academic >>>>> department

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/columbia-university-trump-
demands-federal-funding-e94d41ca

I'm trying my best to recall any situation when then Israelis were
denounced for some action or another that the chant "anti-Semite" wasn't >>>>> echoed in return. I'm sure there were some Jew-haters in the crowd, but >>>>> most were protesting the atrocities being committed by the IDF. Why on >>>>> an American college campus is protest being stifled?

I think the problem has been the leftist and woke infiltration of
campuses. Clearly they have been ideological Karen factories, and Trump >>>> realizes, rightly, that this has to stop. Education should be neutral and >>>> not weaponized to indoctrinate the young to be future socialist.

As for Israel, they are fighting the good fight. Hamas started it, so
israel has a right to finish the fight.

From 1945 to 1948, refugees from Europe and American Zionists flooded to >>> Palestine. The UN sanctioned a partition, which was rejected and war
began. Apparently the Palestinians didn't think having half their land
stolen from them was such a good deal. Since 1948 until 2023, the most
conservative estimates are 30,000 Palestinians killed in the occupied
territories. Many of their homes were confiscated and the people expelled. >>> Gaza itself was practically cut off from the rest of the world and living >>> under a harsh occupation. How do you figure they started the war? Granted >>> their attack was barbaric, but no different or worse than what other
nations have faced in their history. Retaliation for the OCT 7th is
understandable but there is no justification for the heavy response of the >>> IDF.

1948? Get over it! Once you admit historical trading of guilt, everyone on >> the planet is guilty of something going back 100 000 years. Since you set
the limit at 70 years, why not at 140 or 100 000? It's completely
arbitrary.

I can think of another country that still lives off the events of the 1940s.

Equally wrong. I do not know why people let themselves be guilt tripped.
On the other hand, I don't choose our inept politicians so there you go.
My point still stands.

But I read that the arabians will move to africa, and then there can
finally be peace in the middle east!

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On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 00:28:37 -0400
Auric Hellman <adhellman1@gmail.com> wrote:

On 3/22/2025 7:37 PM, D wrote:

[]

1948? Get over it! Once you admit historical trading of guilt, everyone
on the planet is guilty of something going back 100 000 years. Since you set the limit at 70 years, why not at 140 or 100 000? It's completely arbitrary.

I can think of another country that still lives off the events of the 1940s.

Russia? USA? China? Indonesia? N Korea was a bit later.



--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 11:35:28 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

1948? Get over it! Once you admit historical trading of guilt, everyone on >>> the planet is guilty of something going back 100 000 years. Since you set >>> the limit at 70 years, why not at 140 or 100 000? It's completely
arbitrary.

I can think of another country that still lives off the events of the 1940s.

Equally wrong. I do not know why people let themselves be guilt tripped.

AI Overview

In the aftermath of the 1992 Los Angeles riots, which were sparked by
the acquittal of police officers in the Rodney King beating case, King
famously pleaded, "Can we all just get along?"
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 16:09:48 -0400, Auric Hellman
<adhellman1@gmail.com> wrote:

From 1945 to 1948, refugees from Europe and American Zionists flooded
to Palestine. The UN sanctioned a partition, which was rejected and war >began. Apparently the Palestinians didn't think having half their land
stolen from them was such a good deal.

BTW,

"After the war, 250,000 Jewish refugees were stranded in displaced
persons (DP) camps in Europe."

So, what would have been a good solution?

Oh, I don't think the Jewish refugees determined the outcome


Trump says Ukraine doesn't hold any cards, and so it was with Jewish
refugees.

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On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 01:29:47 -0400, Auric Hellman
<adhellman1@gmail.com> wrote:

The Palestinians should not have been forced
to pay the price for German crimes.

I'd have to take a deep dive on this topic, but if my quick look is
valid, the Sykes-Picot Agreement is related to this topic.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes%E2%80%93Picot_Agreement>

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On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 11:35:28 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

On Sun, 23 Mar 2025, Auric Hellman wrote:

I can think of another country that still lives off the events of the 1940s.

Germany....

Equally wrong. I do not know why people let themselves be guilt tripped.

Answer - AI Overview - The idea that "history repeats itself" suggests
that similar events and patterns tend to recur throughout time, often
framed as a cautionary tale about failing to learn from the past.

Thus, when laws exist that prohibit this/that, then history repeating
itself becomes nullified generally.

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