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  • Can noncitizens protest?

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 28 13:07:26 2025
    Can noncitizens protest? What to know about First Amendment rights and
    risks.
    ...
    ...
    Civil liberties groups say the legal justifications are tenuous and
    potentially unconstitutional. The First Amendment protects the right
    to speak, protest and publish views, regardless of citizenship status.
    But experts said that deportation is an area where courts have
    historically granted the executive branch broad latitude -- and that
    gray area is where the Trump administration is operating.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/28/what-constitutional-rights-noncitizens-have/

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Sat Mar 29 18:16:07 2025
    On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 13:07:26 -0500
    JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

    Can noncitizens protest? What to know about First Amendment rights and
    risks.


    Interesting, but let's say some American goes over to China and starts protesting on the anniversary of Tianenman Square. Guarantee you he'll
    be rounded up and abused by the authorities. Now take that same
    American, send him over to Russia and have him protest the war in
    Ukraine. See how it goes for him.

    Laws or whatever, but from a certain point of view, what's happening
    isn't unreasonable, it's just a surprise because it hasn't happened
    recently.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to fungus@amongus.com.invalid on Sat Mar 29 21:09:23 2025
    On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 18:16:07 -0600, Retrograde
    <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:

    Laws or whatever, but from a certain point of view, what's happening
    isn't unreasonable, it's just a surprise because it hasn't happened
    recently.

    At a Midwestern university during Vietnam protest days, the LEOs/State
    were taking photographs of those in the crowds. I have no idea what
    those photos were for, or if used in a courtroom (nothing was set
    fire, etc. there)...just peaceful protests.

    isn't unreasonable

    Free Speech wise, if peaceful protesters have been "evicted" from US,
    I'm not sure I'd call that reasonable.

    I've not followed those protests, but iirc, there were some unlawful
    acts involved.

    The T-Borg is on a PR campaign, so he wants a head count of how many
    have been evicted. I'm not opposed to removing the bad apples.

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  • From cheesetray@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 30 02:24:41 2025
    JAB wrote:
    Can noncitizens protest? What to know about First Amendment rights and
    risks.
    ....
    ....
    Civil liberties groups say the legal justifications are tenuous and potentially unconstitutional. The First Amendment protects the right
    to speak, protest and publish views, regardless of citizenship status.
    But experts said that deportation is an area where courts have
    historically granted the executive branch broad latitude -- and that
    gray area is where the Trump administration is operating.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/28/what-constitutional-rights-noncitizens-have/




    interesting! (not sarcasm! thank you...) i'd love to read more about it, if you write it. (i didn't read the post article)

    just keep it easy reading, like your first post. this is your mission, if you choose to accept it. please destroy this post at its conclusion. el oh el jk


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=686424949#686424949

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to fungus@amongus.com.invalid on Sun Mar 30 13:30:09 2025
    On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 18:16:07 -0600, Retrograde
    <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:

    what's happening isn't unreasonable

    Read and evaluate: A Harvard scientist from Russia has been detained
    by ICE since February for failing to declare frog embryos
    ...
    ...
    Petrova's supervisor at Harvard, Leonid Peshkin, told the The Boston
    Globe that it is his fault that Petrova picked up more samples while vacationing in France and tried to bring them back to Harvard.

    Peshkin told the Globe that the frog embryo samples are used to study
    how various genes are used in organisms.

    After failed attempts to deliver the embryos, he asked Petrova to
    bring some home following her trip.

    "I made a mistake," Peshkin told the Globe. "I regret very much doing
    this."

    https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2025/03/28/a-harvard-scientist-from-russia-has-been-detained-by-ice-since-february-for-failing-to-declare-frog-embryos/

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