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  • Re: Former Israeli PM Ehud Olmert Says His Country is Committing War Cr

    From JAB@21:1/5 to adhellman1@gmail.com on Sun Jun 1 07:11:38 2025
    On Sun, 1 Jun 2025 01:12:48 -0400, Auric Hellman
    <adhellman1@gmail.com> wrote:

    Netanyahu will be remembered in history as one
    of the bloodiest leaders of the 21st century,

    It depends upon who writes the history books...

    He added: "Never since its establishment has the state of
    Israel waged such a war...

    It would appear Netanyahu (or military) has/have exceeded what was
    required. I still wonder if they knew what was going to happen...

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to Auric Hellman on Sun Jun 1 08:52:48 2025
    On Sun, 1 Jun 2025 01:12:48 -0400
    Auric Hellman <adhellman1@gmail.com> wrote:

    #

    The former prime minister of Israel Ehud Olmert has said Israel is
    committing war crimes in Gaza, and that “thousands of innocent
    Palestinians are being killed, as well as many Israeli soldiers”.
    Olmert, who was the 12th prime minister of Israel from 2006 to 2009,
    wrote in an opinion piece for the Israeli newspaper and website Haaretz
    that “the government of Israel is currently waging a war without
    purpose, without goals or clear planning and with no chances of
    success”. He added: “Never since its establishment has the state of Israel waged such a war … The criminal gang headed by Benjamin Netanyahu has set a precedent without equal in Israel’s history in this area, to

    Those are pretty strong words, and more powerful coming from a former
    leader. I'm afraid future generations and future books will look back
    on what's happening now and have terrible things to say about us for
    letting it happen. And the Americans stepped back and focused on
    antisemitism, of all things, interpreted as any criticism whatsoever of
    Israel. Awful.

    Parenthetically, I'm remembering at the beginning when Hamas had run
    through and taken hostages etc. and some were saying Hamas must have an incredible game plan ... turns out, no plan at all. Their hostage run
    turned into the total annihilation of Gaza and genocide (ongoing) of
    its people.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to fungus@amongus.com.invalid on Sun Jun 1 12:56:58 2025
    On Sun, 1 Jun 2025 08:52:48 -0600, Retrograde
    <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:

    Hamas must have an
    incredible game plan

    Simplistic reasoning that was based upon outcomes from previous
    skirmishes.

    Rather foolish to agitate a foe with a bigger military response.

    At any time Hamas could have raised a white flag....other nations
    would have done so....long before Gaza became rubble...but "defeat" is
    not an option for Hamas.

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Sun Jun 1 13:43:03 2025
    On Sun, 01 Jun 2025 12:56:58 -0500
    JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

    On Sun, 1 Jun 2025 08:52:48 -0600, Retrograde
    <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:

    Hamas must have an
    incredible game plan

    Simplistic reasoning that was based upon outcomes from previous
    skirmishes.

    Rather foolish to agitate a foe with a bigger military response.
    Talk about throwing a rock at a hornet's nest. Netanyahu and Co. seem
    to have just been itching for an opportunity to do something like this.



    At any time Hamas could have raised a white flag....other nations
    would have done so....long before Gaza became rubble...but "defeat" is
    not an option for Hamas.


    Not only that, they still have a f*ing hostage! They are morons. I
    pity the Palestinian people, but am 100% supportive of crushing Hamas
    like a cockroach. The Palestinians deserve better than these shitheads responsible for their current plight.
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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to fungus@amongus.com.invalid on Sun Jun 1 18:52:03 2025
    On Sun, 1 Jun 2025 13:43:03 -0600, Retrograde
    <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:

    Netanyahu and Co. seem to have just been itching
    for an opportunity to do something like this.

    When the end result is considered, I suspect they let it happen.

    AI Overview

    Yes, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) and Israeli intelligence agencies
    had obtained information and plans outlining Hamas's intentions to
    launch a large-scale attack, including a document codenamed "Jericho
    Wall" that detailed the planned invasion

    However, this intelligence was misinterpreted and ultimately not acted
    upon, leading to the devastating October 7, 2023 attack

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