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  • 10-12 Day Truce Deadline

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 28 12:08:17 2025
    Trump Says He Will Give Putin New 10-12 Day Truce Deadline

    US President Donald Trump said he would shorten his timeline for
    Russian leader Vladimir Putin to reach a truce with Ukraine or face
    potential economic penalties, ramping up pressure on Moscow to bring
    the fighting to a halt.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-07-28/trump-says-he-ll-reduce-50-day-deadline-he-gave-putin-for-truce

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to JAB on Mon Jul 28 17:34:56 2025
    JAB wrote:

    Trump Says He Will Give Putin New 10-12 Day Truce Deadline


    Watch the 10-12 days become 28-60 days... then 100-130 days...
    then never!

    Like what's he gonna do, Nuke Moscow? Putin hasn't seemed
    too bothered by the existing sanctions, I doubt he cares
    about a few more.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 28 15:03:39 2025
    On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 17:34:56 GMT, "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news>
    wrote:

    Like what's he gonna do

    Add/increase economic sanctions.

    With US arms, Ukraine has been allowed to shoot missles farther into
    Russia. Maybe Trump could send anti-drone tech to them...

    Putin hasn't seemed too bothered

    I believe he recently stated his objectives....

    On another note, even if he has X-rated videos of Trump, I believe he
    knows it would be foolish to release them. Trump would get pissed...

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  • From Jukka Lahtinen@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Jul 29 00:39:54 2025
    JAB <here@is.invalid> writes:

    Trump Says He Will Give Putin New 10-12 Day Truce Deadline

    That's at least 9-11 days too long.

    --
    Jukka Lahtinen

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid on Mon Jul 28 18:42:02 2025
    On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 00:39:54 +0300, Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:

    Trump Says He Will Give Putin New 10-12 Day Truce Deadline

    That's at least 9-11 days too long.

    Issue here is Putin will not submit to Trump unless Trump can deliver
    a hard blow to Russia, so Trump is acting as a superfluous person...unnecessary.

    Unless Trump can flex military involvement in some manner, and/or a
    hard economic impact for Russians, Putin will do as he pleases. ================

    In Trump's rhetoric, a sound bullshit....

    "As the always-quotable Mark Twain so succinctly put it, a sound byte
    is "a minimum of sound to a maximum of sense." A sound byte should
    encapsulate the main point of a larger talk or speech into a quick and understandable statement."

    https://unity.edu/distance-education/commhub/communicating-like-a-professional/the-sound-byte-and-the-elevator-pitch/

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  • From Jukka Lahtinen@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Jul 29 11:24:51 2025
    JAB <here@is.invalid> writes:
    On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 00:39:54 +0300, Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:

    Trump Says He Will Give Putin New 10-12 Day Truce Deadline
    That's at least 9-11 days too long.

    Issue here is Putin will not submit to Trump unless Trump can deliver
    a hard blow to Russia, so Trump is acting as a superfluous person...unnecessary.

    TACO.

    --
    Jukka Lahtinen

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid on Tue Jul 29 20:54:55 2025
    On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 11:24:51 +0300, Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:

    TACO

    "The West doesn't understand the extremism of Putinism...that (its)
    goals involve the destruction of the transatlantic alliance & maybe of
    the EU...The path to peace is through convincing Putin that he won't
    win the war, that it's hopeless."

    Anne Applebaum: 'The West doesn't understand the extremism of
    Putinism'
    YouTube video by DW News
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm_R1N9I8ZI

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid on Tue Jul 29 15:26:45 2025
    On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 11:24:51 +0300, Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:

    TACO

    Interesting, the MAGAites haven't deciphered his modus operandi, which
    boils down to Rambo assertions with TACO endings.

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Jul 29 20:31:58 2025
    On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 20:54:55 -0500
    JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

    On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 11:24:51 +0300, Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:

    TACO

    "The West doesn't understand the extremism of Putinism...that (its)
    goals involve the destruction of the transatlantic alliance & maybe of
    the EU...The path to peace is through convincing Putin that he won't
    win the war, that it's hopeless."

    Pretty sure the only way to peace is a bullet in Putin's forehead. He
    cannot afford to lose this military intervention, his whole persona is
    based on strength of conviction. If he loses, he is done. Remember he
    thought this would be an easy 2-3 day exercise, a walk in the park.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid on Wed Jul 30 20:51:08 2025
    On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 11:24:51 +0300, Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:

    TACO

    Here's what he could do:

    Options to convince Putin to negotiate on Ukraine https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/the-russia-pressure-menu-options-to-convince-putin-to-negotiate-on-ukraine/

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 1 19:03:27 2025
    Putin, facing Trump deadline, signals no change in Russia's stance on
    Ukraine

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-facing-trump-deadline-signals-no-change-russias-stance-ukraine-2025-08-01/

    Putin says Russia expects further peace talks

    Bullshit...

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