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  • Trump tells Zelensky

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 18 12:37:13 2025
    Trump tells Zelensky to give up Crimea and never join NATO ahead of
    White House talks
    ...
    At last week's summit with Trump, Russian President Vladimir Putin
    agreed to allow security guarantees for Ukraine and made concessions
    on "land swaps" as part of a potential peace deal, US envoy Steve
    Witkoff told CNN. https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-ukraine-zelensky-russia-putin-08-18-25

    allow security guarantees

    Yes, like NATO....or NATO's forces stationed there...

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to adhellman1@gmail.com on Tue Aug 19 06:20:12 2025
    On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 00:33:02 -0400, Auric Hellman
    <adhellman1@gmail.com> wrote:

    Why are the U.S. and Canada getting involved in these European matters.

    "Canada is increasingly seeking to strengthen ties with Europe as a
    response to perceived threats from the U.S. and to diversify its
    defense partnerships.

    Canada is also participating in the EU's military mobility project,
    which aims to boost EU-NATO cooperation and address security threats"

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    "The U.S. and Canada, along with Europe, share a commitment to
    democracy, the rule of law, and a rules-based international order."

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to adhellman1@gmail.com on Tue Aug 19 11:46:26 2025
    On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 00:33:02 -0400, Auric Hellman
    <adhellman1@gmail.com> wrote:

    Why are the U.S. and Canada getting involved

    Trump says no US troops in Ukraine: 'You have my assurance' https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/3758005/trump-ukraine-no-us-troops-assurance/

    What...."The United States and Ukraine have signed a minerals
    deal...April 30, 2025"

    US needs to protect it interest here...with boots on the ground.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Aug 19 21:03:31 2025
    JAB wrote:

    What...."The United States and Ukraine have signed a
    minerals deal...April 30, 2025"

    US needs to protect it interest here...with boots on the
    ground.

    They won't be soldiers boots though. Those people will be
    miners and refinery workers... with broad shoulders, short
    hair and going around the place shouting "Oorah!"

    It's possible these miners might also be issued with some M27
    infantry rifles... there are a lot of bears and wild animals in
    that part of the world... best not to take too many chances.

    Boots on the ground though? Absolutely not!

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 19 18:13:10 2025
    On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 21:03:31 GMT, "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news>
    wrote:

    Boots on the ground though? Absolutely not!

    His position is most likely related to appeasing the MAGAites, and/or
    Putin.

    The mineral deal has been described in terms of neocolonialism,
    favoring US interests. Within that mineral agreement, "WHEREAS the
    American people desire to invest alongside Ukraine in a free,
    sovereign and secure Ukraine." How is Ukraine "secure" without US
    boots on the ground is the question. "Desire to invest" and he says
    no way for boots on the ground.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 19 18:32:35 2025
    On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 21:03:31 GMT, "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news>
    wrote:

    Boots on the ground though? Absolutely not!

    A Catch-22

    "A U.S. and European plan to give Ukraine security guarantees, if it
    pans out, could put Putin in a precarious position: Any role of NATO
    countries in bolstering Kyiv counters what the Kremlin has fought
    during more than three years of war in Ukraine."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/08/19/europe-ukraine-russia-trump-peace-security-guarantees/

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