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    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 20 19:44:18 2025
    SpaceX says states should dump fiber plans, give all grant money to
    Starlink

    SpaceX seeks more cash, calls fiber "wasteful and unnecessary taxpayer spending."
    ...
    ...
    The Trump administration rewrote rules for the $42 billion Broadband
    Equity, Access, and Deployment (BEAD) grant program in a way that
    benefits Starlink. Instead of prioritizing fiber networks that offer
    better service and are more future-proof, the Trump administration
    ordered states to revise their plans with a "tech-neutral approach"
    and lower the average cost of serving each location.

    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/08/starlink-keeps-trying-to-block-fiber-deployment-says-us-must-nix-louisiana-plan/

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to JAB on Thu Aug 21 12:16:16 2025
    On 8/20/2025 8:44 PM, JAB wrote:
    SpaceX says states should dump fiber plans, give all grant money to Starlink

    SpaceX seeks more cash, calls fiber "wasteful and unnecessary taxpayer spending."
    ...
    ...
    The Trump administration rewrote rules for the $42 billion Broadband
    Equity, Access, and Deployment (BEAD) grant program in a way that
    benefits Starlink. Instead of prioritizing fiber networks that offer
    better service and are more future-proof, the Trump administration
    ordered states to revise their plans with a "tech-neutral approach"
    and lower the average cost of serving each location.

    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/08/starlink-keeps-trying-to-block-fiber-deployment-says-us-must-nix-louisiana-plan/

    That's a shame, more satellites to block stargazer's view at night.
    Fiber is a much more solid connection than any satellite service.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to michael.trew@att.net on Thu Aug 21 16:35:19 2025
    On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 12:16:16 -0400, Michael Trew
    <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:

    more satellites

    Cronyism and sat users are dependent upon Starlink sending up
    more/more sats.

    Fiber/WISPs installations employs humans, and puts money into
    local/regional areas.

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to JAB on Mon Aug 25 11:12:23 2025
    On 8/21/2025 5:35 PM, JAB wrote:
    On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 12:16:16 -0400, Michael Trew
    <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:

    more satellites

    Cronyism and sat users are dependent upon Starlink sending up
    more/more sats.

    Fiber/WISPs installations employs humans, and puts money into
    local/regional areas.

    The push against fiber is infrastructure cost. Unless it's an urban
    area, they don't want to bother to lay or hang fiber.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to michael.trew@att.net on Mon Aug 25 11:03:15 2025
    On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 11:12:23 -0400, Michael Trew
    <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:

    Fiber/WISPs installations employs humans, and puts money into
    local/regional areas.

    The push against fiber is infrastructure cost. Unless it's an urban
    area, they don't want to bother to lay or hang fiber.

    Well yeah, same thing with rural electricity and telephone
    services....those companies then didn't want to serve rural
    folks...profits are within urban areas

    Years ago, UPS was an interstate carrier where I lived, but not an
    intrastate carrier. UPS wanted intrastate business, and state
    legislators said yes, but you have to deliver to rural folks. No
    package carrier wants to deliver to rural folks.

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Mon Aug 25 16:52:33 2025
    On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 11:12:23 -0400
    Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:

    On 8/21/2025 5:35 PM, JAB wrote:
    On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 12:16:16 -0400, Michael Trew
    <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:

    more satellites

    Cronyism and sat users are dependent upon Starlink sending up
    more/more sats.

    Fiber/WISPs installations employs humans, and puts money into local/regional areas.

    The push against fiber is infrastructure cost. Unless it's an urban
    area, they don't want to bother to lay or hang fiber.


    I honestly believe the near-term solution is more cell towers.
    T-Mobile offers a 5G home internet connection that works on its cell technology. It's pretty darned good. Compare the cost of T-Mobile
    putting up a tower to AT&T having to trench every street in the
    neighborhood - mobile has the advantage.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to michael.trew@att.net on Tue Aug 26 12:23:13 2025
    On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 11:12:23 -0400, Michael Trew
    <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:

    The push against fiber is infrastructure cost.

    Uncle Sam historically has put funding into many different projects,
    from R&D to highways, etc.

    Musk has been seeking and getting government 'handouts' in various
    ways. And for his Starlink, for several years, or more, he has wanted
    to obtain a piece of this action.

    No "push" here, just cronyism.

    Fiber plans tend to be much cheaper than Starlink, and long term,
    fiber is reliable. Environmentally, Starlink's sats are another
    source of air and light pollution.

    Oh, those companies installing fiber do pay taxes, and increase
    employment from workers who pay taxes. Also, those companies buy equipment/products from other companies. This is a plus for the
    economy, and employment.

    Do the economic spreadsheet....when fiber is installed, Uncle Sam gets
    a return on his investment. Not so much with Starlink.

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