Apple sold the best-selling phone of 2022, the iPhone 13. Apple also
sold the second-best selling phone of 2022, the iPhone 13 Pro Max.
Apple also sold the third, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, and ninth best-selling phones of the year, according to new data from research
firm Counterpoint. That’s despite three of those phones only being
available for four months of the year.

It’s the first time a single brand has ever captured eight of the top
10 spots in the best-selling smartphone list, Counterpoint says.

The only other company to crack the top-10 list was Samsung. Samsung’s
Galaxy A13 ranked fourth, while its Galaxy Ao3 ranked 10th.

Apple iPhone 13
Apple iPhone 13 Pro Max
Apple iPhone 14 Pro Max
Samsung Galaxy A13
Apple iPhone 13 Pro
Apple iPhone 12
Apple iPhone 14
Apple iPhone 14 Pro
Apple iPhone SE 2022
Samsung Galaxy A03

It’s important to note that it’s only possible for Apple to capture so
many places on the top 10 best-selling phones list because it is the
only manufacturer of iPhones, which approach 50% market share with Android-based smartphones based in some wealthy nations, while taking
just over a quarter of global market share: 27.6% according to
Statista. In addition, many Android phone manufacturers such as Samsung
spread their market share over significantly more models, meaning
Apple’s overall market share is more concentrated for each model of
iPhone it sells.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2023/03/07/apple-sold-8-of-the-top-10-best-selling-phones-of-2022/?sh=357dbb82a0d8

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On 2023-03-08 12:17, badgolferman wrote:

Apple sold the best-selling phone of 2022, the iPhone 13. Apple also
sold the second-best selling phone of 2022, the iPhone 13 Pro Max.
Apple also sold the third, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, and ninth best-selling phones of the year, according to new data from research
firm Counterpoint. That’s despite three of those phones only being available for four months of the year.

It’s the first time a single brand has ever captured eight of the top
10 spots in the best-selling smartphone list, Counterpoint says.

The only other company to crack the top-10 list was Samsung. Samsung’s Galaxy A13 ranked fourth, while its Galaxy Ao3 ranked 10th.

Apple iPhone 13
Apple iPhone 13 Pro Max
Apple iPhone 14 Pro Max
Samsung Galaxy A13
Apple iPhone 13 Pro
Apple iPhone 12
Apple iPhone 14
Apple iPhone 14 Pro
Apple iPhone SE 2022
Samsung Galaxy A03

Not that I know how valid or good that list may be ...

What is stunning is that flagship, really good Android phones like the
Galaxy S22 are not on the list.

--
“Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
danger to American democracy.”
- J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
- Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
committee

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On 2023-03-08 09:43, CDB wrote:

On 3/8/2023 12:30 PM, Alan Browne wrote:

What is stunning is that flagship, really good Android phones like the
Galaxy S22 are not on the list.

More (as good)/(or maybe almost as good) Androids exist at lower prices.

If many people agreed with that assessment, those "(as good)/(or maybe
almost as good)" would sell much better, don't you think?

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On 2023-03-08 13:02, Alan wrote:

On 2023-03-08 09:43, CDB wrote:

On 3/8/2023 12:30 PM, Alan Browne wrote:

What is stunning is that flagship, really good Android phones like
the Galaxy S22 are not on the list.

More (as good)/(or maybe almost as good) Androids exist at lower prices.

If many people agreed with that assessment, those "(as good)/(or maybe
almost as good)" would sell much better, don't you think?

They do sell well - but there is such a variety of brands and models
that they all disappear into the noise.

Out of curiosity I googled for how many Android brands are out there.

Ended on this page: (which is all mobile phones, not just Android). https://www.gsmarena.com/makers.php3


--
“Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
danger to American democracy.”
- J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
- Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
committee

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On 3/8/2023 12:30 PM, Alan Browne wrote:

What is stunning is that flagship, really good Android phones like the
Galaxy S22 are not on the list.

More (as good)/(or maybe almost as good) Androids exist at lower prices.

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Am 08.03.23 um 18:30 schrieb Alan Browne:

On 2023-03-08 12:17, badgolferman wrote:

Apple iPhone 13
Apple iPhone 13 Pro Max
Apple iPhone 14 Pro Max
Samsung Galaxy A13
Apple iPhone 13 Pro
Apple iPhone 12
Apple iPhone 14
Apple iPhone 14 Pro
Apple iPhone SE 2022
Samsung Galaxy A03

Not that I know how valid or good that list may be ...

What is stunning is that flagship, really good Android phones like the
Galaxy S22 are not on the list.

Now you know why Apple makes 85% of all operating profits of all
companies in the smartphone-industry combined.


--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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On 2023-03-08 17:09, Joerg Lorenz wrote:

Am 08.03.23 um 18:30 schrieb Alan Browne:

On 2023-03-08 12:17, badgolferman wrote:

Apple iPhone 13
Apple iPhone 13 Pro Max
Apple iPhone 14 Pro Max
Samsung Galaxy A13
Apple iPhone 13 Pro
Apple iPhone 12
Apple iPhone 14
Apple iPhone 14 Pro
Apple iPhone SE 2022
Samsung Galaxy A03

Not that I know how valid or good that list may be ...

What is stunning is that flagship, really good Android phones like the
Galaxy S22 are not on the list.

Now you know why Apple makes 85% of all operating profits of all
companies in the smartphone-industry combined.

That would actually be because of the huge number of Android makers and
their many, many models. This leaves them fighting each other for
margin which leads to volume cost inefficiency and price erosion.

--
“Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
danger to American democracy.”
- J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
- Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
committee

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Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

On 2023-03-08 12:17, badgolferman wrote:

Apple sold the best-selling phone of 2022, the iPhone 13. Apple also
sold the second-best selling phone of 2022, the iPhone 13 Pro Max.
Apple also sold the third, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, and ninth
best-selling phones of the year, according to new data from research
firm Counterpoint. That’s despite three of those phones only being
available for four months of the year.

It’s the first time a single brand has ever captured eight of the top
10 spots in the best-selling smartphone list, Counterpoint says.

The only other company to crack the top-10 list was Samsung. Samsung’s
Galaxy A13 ranked fourth, while its Galaxy Ao3 ranked 10th.

Apple iPhone 13
Apple iPhone 13 Pro Max
Apple iPhone 14 Pro Max
Samsung Galaxy A13
Apple iPhone 13 Pro
Apple iPhone 12
Apple iPhone 14
Apple iPhone 14 Pro
Apple iPhone SE 2022
Samsung Galaxy A03

Not that I know how valid or good that list may be ...

What is stunning is that flagship, really good Android phones like the
Galaxy S22 are not on the list.

If you're getting close to spending iphone prices, just get an iphone.
Android dominates the lower price points.

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On 2023-03-08 18:27, Thomas wrote:

On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 11:13:11 PM, Chris wrote:

What is stunning is that flagship, really good Android phones like the
Galaxy S22 are not on the list.

If you're getting close to spending iphone prices, just get an iphone.
Android dominates the lower price points.

Normally each buyer greatly prefers one complete ecosystem over the other. Many families might cross ecosystems but I suspect fewer individuals do.
It's a personal choice.

If I were a Windows user (or even Linux if we must be perverse), then
I'd be pretty ambivalent or flexible.

--
“Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
danger to American democracy.”
- J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
- Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
committee

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On 2023-03-08 18:13, Chris wrote:

Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

On 2023-03-08 12:17, badgolferman wrote:

Apple sold the best-selling phone of 2022, the iPhone 13. Apple also
sold the second-best selling phone of 2022, the iPhone 13 Pro Max.
Apple also sold the third, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, and ninth
best-selling phones of the year, according to new data from research
firm Counterpoint. That’s despite three of those phones only being
available for four months of the year.

It’s the first time a single brand has ever captured eight of the top
10 spots in the best-selling smartphone list, Counterpoint says.

The only other company to crack the top-10 list was Samsung. Samsung’s >>> Galaxy A13 ranked fourth, while its Galaxy Ao3 ranked 10th.

Apple iPhone 13
Apple iPhone 13 Pro Max
Apple iPhone 14 Pro Max
Samsung Galaxy A13
Apple iPhone 13 Pro
Apple iPhone 12
Apple iPhone 14
Apple iPhone 14 Pro
Apple iPhone SE 2022
Samsung Galaxy A03

Not that I know how valid or good that list may be ...

What is stunning is that flagship, really good Android phones like the
Galaxy S22 are not on the list.

If you're getting close to spending iphone prices, just get an iphone. Android dominates the lower price points.

Not really what I was getting at ...

--
“Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
danger to American democracy.”
- J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
- Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
committee

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On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 11:13:11 PM, Chris wrote:

What is stunning is that flagship, really good Android phones like the
Galaxy S22 are not on the list.

If you're getting close to spending iphone prices, just get an iphone. Android dominates the lower price points.

Normally each buyer greatly prefers one complete ecosystem over the other.
Many families might cross ecosystems but I suspect fewer individuals do.
It's a personal choice.

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Am 09.03.23 um 00:13 schrieb Chris:

Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

Not that I know how valid or good that list may be ...

What is stunning is that flagship, really good Android phones like the
Galaxy S22 are not on the list.

If you're getting close to spending iphone prices, just get an iphone. Android dominates the lower price points.

You are not serious. That is a question of philosophy and other hardware/software used. An Android never makes sense for a Mac-user.


--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

It’s the first time a single brand has ever captured eight of the top
10 spots in the best-selling smartphone list, Counterpoint says.

The only other company to crack the top-10 list was Samsung. Samsung’s Galaxy A13 ranked fourth, while its Galaxy Ao3 ranked 10th.

Apple iPhone 13
Apple iPhone 13 Pro Max
Apple iPhone 14 Pro Max
Samsung Galaxy A13
Apple iPhone 13 Pro
Apple iPhone 12
Apple iPhone 14
Apple iPhone 14 Pro
Apple iPhone SE 2022
Samsung Galaxy A03

Yes, I saw this too.

I’m sure that the heads of the usual kiddie trolls here are exploding right now.

The good news is, since their heads are always up their asses, that means
their entire bodies exploded.

We can only hope.

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Am 09.03.23 um 00:27 schrieb Thomas:

On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 11:13:11 PM, Chris wrote:

What is stunning is that flagship, really good Android phones like the
Galaxy S22 are not on the list.

If you're getting close to spending iphone prices, just get an iphone.
Android dominates the lower price points.

Normally each buyer greatly prefers one complete ecosystem over the other. Many families might cross ecosystems but I suspect fewer individuals do.
It's a personal choice.

Also my opinion.

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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Am 08.03.23 um 23:31 schrieb Alan Browne:

On 2023-03-08 17:09, Joerg Lorenz wrote:

Am 08.03.23 um 18:30 schrieb Alan Browne:

On 2023-03-08 12:17, badgolferman wrote:

Apple iPhone 13
Apple iPhone 13 Pro Max
Apple iPhone 14 Pro Max
Samsung Galaxy A13
Apple iPhone 13 Pro
Apple iPhone 12
Apple iPhone 14
Apple iPhone 14 Pro
Apple iPhone SE 2022
Samsung Galaxy A03

Not that I know how valid or good that list may be ...

What is stunning is that flagship, really good Android phones like the
Galaxy S22 are not on the list.

Now you know why Apple makes 85% of all operating profits of all
companies in the smartphone-industry combined.

That would actually be because of the huge number of Android makers and
their many, many models. This leaves them fighting each other for
margin which leads to volume cost inefficiency and price erosion.

... means high-tech vs. commodity

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Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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Alan Browne wrote:

On 2023-03-08 18:27, Thomas wrote:

On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 11:13:11 PM, Chris wrote:

What is stunning is that flagship, really good Android phones like the >>>> Galaxy S22 are not on the list.

If you're getting close to spending iphone prices, just get an iphone.
Android dominates the lower price points.

Normally each buyer greatly prefers one complete ecosystem over the other. >> Many families might cross ecosystems but I suspect fewer individuals do.
It's a personal choice.

If I were a Windows user (or even Linux if we must be perverse), then
I'd be pretty ambivalent or flexible.

While Alan Browne is one of the "smarter" of the ignorant low-IQ uneducated iKooks, notice two things about this thread and how the iKook operated.

1. To his credit, the iKook did _comprehend_ what most of the other iKooks
could not fathom, which was the _reason_ why some of the best Androids
didn't make the list (which I commend Alan Browne for understanding).

2. However... notice the disdain in Alan Browne's Windows/Linux comment?

3. Remember, the third component of every iKook is that they derive an
appreciable amount of their self esteem from the perceived superiority
provided to them by Apple (which is why they gloat about profits).

Like any religious zealot, what Alan Browne understands is that his chosen prophet, let's say it's Mohammed, isn't the _only_ prophet out there.

But...

Alan Browne clearly ridicules those who chose a different prophet, where,
in the case of _every_ other operating system other than Apple, nobody
cares about defending the prophet to the death like the iKooks do.

Without the hyperbole, Windows & Linux users are ambivalent because they
use practical criteria to choose a device - they're not deeply emotionally driven by mere marketing gimmickry (like Yellow colors, for example).

Normal people are ambivalent about silly things iKooks care deeply about.

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Am 09.03.23 um 14:31 schrieb Chris:

Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

Am 09.03.23 um 00:13 schrieb Chris:

Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

Not that I know how valid or good that list may be ...

What is stunning is that flagship, really good Android phones like the >>>> Galaxy S22 are not on the list.

If you're getting close to spending iphone prices, just get an iphone.
Android dominates the lower price points.

You are not serious. That is a question of philosophy and other
hardware/software used. An Android never makes sense for a Mac-user.

Not true. I used to use an Android phone, but to get the features I wanted
I need to sound increasing amounts so just ended jumping over to iphone.

This was quite a few years ago now so things may be different today.

I think I have an idea what I'm talking about. I use iPhones since 2008
and Nexus/Pixels since 2016. Android phones despite being cheaper they
are a waste of money for a Mac-user. BTW: I use Macs since 2005.

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

Am 09.03.23 um 00:13 schrieb Chris:

Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

Not that I know how valid or good that list may be ...

What is stunning is that flagship, really good Android phones like the
Galaxy S22 are not on the list.

If you're getting close to spending iphone prices, just get an iphone.
Android dominates the lower price points.

You are not serious. That is a question of philosophy and other hardware/software used. An Android never makes sense for a Mac-user.

Not true. I used to use an Android phone, but to get the features I wanted
I need to sound increasing amounts so just ended jumping over to iphone.

This was quite a few years ago now so things may be different today.

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On 2023-03-08 10:11, Alan Browne wrote:

On 2023-03-08 13:02, Alan wrote:

On 2023-03-08 09:43, CDB wrote:

On 3/8/2023 12:30 PM, Alan Browne wrote:

What is stunning is that flagship, really good Android phones like
the Galaxy S22 are not on the list.

More (as good)/(or maybe almost as good) Androids exist at lower prices.

If many people agreed with that assessment, those "(as good)/(or maybe
almost as good)" would sell much better, don't you think?

They do sell well - but there is such a variety of brands and models
that they all disappear into the noise.

Out of curiosity I googled for how many Android brands are out there.

Ended on this page: (which is all mobile phones, not just Android). https://www.gsmarena.com/makers.php3

The numbers are quite stunning in another way.

Despite being among the most expensive offerings out there, and without
even looking for any other figures from further down the list, Apple
sells 16.1% of all the smartphones in the world.

As you say, one brand versus all those others.

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Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

Am 09.03.23 um 14:31 schrieb Chris:

Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

Am 09.03.23 um 00:13 schrieb Chris:

Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

Not that I know how valid or good that list may be ...

What is stunning is that flagship, really good Android phones like the >>>>> Galaxy S22 are not on the list.

If you're getting close to spending iphone prices, just get an iphone. >>>> Android dominates the lower price points.

You are not serious. That is a question of philosophy and other
hardware/software used. An Android never makes sense for a Mac-user.

Not true. I used to use an Android phone, but to get the features I wanted >> I need to sound increasing amounts so just ended jumping over to iphone.

This was quite a few years ago now so things may be different today.

I think I have an idea what I'm talking about. I use iPhones since 2008
and Nexus/Pixels since 2016. Android phones despite being cheaper they
are a waste of money for a Mac-user. BTW: I use Macs since 2005.

I'm pleased for you.

Your experience isn't the same mine: as a Mac user I was perfectly capable
of also using an Android phone.

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badgolferman wrote:

It's the first time a single brand has ever captured eight of the top
10 spots in the best-selling smartphone list, Counterpoint says.

Hi badgolferman,

An adult assessment of fact is the intention of this specific message.

Thank you for posting the facts, where even I was initially surprised at
how each model sells as it's not a particular concern of mine normally.

All data is good data, so this is, by definition, good data to know
as adults should always form & hone belief systems based on current facts.

I agree with Alan Browne that the marketing strategies of Apple and Android
are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, which makes a 1:1 comparison fraught with errors.

On the point of what most people took this listing to indicate, I have
noticed "soft data" that the iKooks gloat over Apple sales figures.

Which is kind of strange...

Nobody on the non-Apple common operating systems groups does that gloating.

You're far more likely to hear them wish an untimely death to both
Microsoft and to Google than to gloat over their sales figures and profits.

Assuming that 'soft data' is correct, why do you think the Apple posters to this very thread, by and large, gloated over figures which you presented?

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Andy Burnelli wrote:

badgolferman wrote:

It's the first time a single brand has ever captured eight of the
top 10 spots in the best-selling smartphone list, Counterpoint says.

Hi badgolferman,

An adult assessment of fact is the intention of this specific message.

Thank you for posting the facts, where even I was initially surprised
at how each model sells as it's not a particular concern of mine
normally.

All data is good data, so this is, by definition, good data to know
as adults should always form & hone belief systems based on current
facts.

I agree with Alan Browne that the marketing strategies of Apple and
Android are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, which makes a 1:1 comparison
fraught with errors.

On the point of what most people took this listing to indicate, I have >noticed "soft data" that the iKooks gloat over Apple sales figures.

Which is kind of strange...
Nobody on the non-Apple common operating systems groups does that
gloating.

You're far more likely to hear them wish an untimely death to both
Microsoft and to Google than to gloat over their sales figures and
profits.

Assuming that 'soft data' is correct, why do you think the Apple
posters to this very thread, by and large, gloated over figures which
you presented?

Seeing as how I'm not a psychologist or sociologist and don't even own
lots of books, I'm not sure I'm qualified to make that assesment.
However knowing you've been studying the people in this group for
decades I would be interested in hearing what your research has
uncovered.

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badgolferman wrote:

Seeing as how I'm not a psychologist or sociologist and don't even own
lots of books, I'm not sure I'm qualified to make that assesment.
However knowing you've been studying the people in this group for
decades I would be interested in hearing what your research has
uncovered.

Hi badgolferman,

While a more complete analysis has to include their lack of education,
and their abnormally low IQ's in addition to their self esteem issues...

It's actually obvious (to me, anyway) why iKooks gloat over what nobody
normal gloats about (on the adult operating system newsgroups anyway).

The iKooks derive a huge amount of self esteem from strutting about with
that "Yellow" iPhone (with the matching "Yellow" case) which is the _only_
way they know to set them apart from the rest of the low-class hoi polloi.

The real question to answer is why they lack self esteem in the first place?
--
HINT: Everyone (but Apple) has told them they're stupid their entire lives.
You can't make those ungodly profits off of an intelligent consumer base.

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Am 10.03.23 um 08:02 schrieb Chris:

Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

I think I have an idea what I'm talking about. I use iPhones since 2008
and Nexus/Pixels since 2016. Android phones despite being cheaper they
are a waste of money for a Mac-user. BTW: I use Macs since 2005.

I'm pleased for you.

Your experience isn't the same mine: as a Mac user I was perfectly capable
of also using an Android phone.

That was not the question. Androids are not capable to access and manage important bits and pieces on the iCloud. Mac-users always have an iCloud-account. Smartphones never ever are the leading part of an infrastructure.

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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In article <xn0nz6h6i349mzz002@reader443.eternal-september.org>,
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Seeing as how I'm not a psychologist or sociologist and don't even own
lots of books, I'm not sure I'm qualified to make that assesment.

go to the library and take a few photos.

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