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  • Re: Why is it that YELLOW iPhone and 31 exciting new EMOJIS are not sai

    From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Wed Mar 29 17:09:33 2023
    On 2023-03-29 16:44, Jolly Roger wrote:

    Adults can plainly see that this supposed "questioning" is actually just sealioning <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning> which is an
    age-old trolling tactic. You're not fooling anyone.

    just kf'd him - surprised I waited this long. Just not worth the
    electron flux or time to read his pablum.

    Thanks for the sealioning reference.

    Quote: <<It may take the form of "incessant, bad-faith invitations to
    engage in debate", and has been likened to a denial-of-service attack
    targeted at human beings.>>

    Which also applies to some others around here - and why we should all
    just ignore them.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to RJH on Wed Mar 29 17:16:53 2023
    On 2023-03-29 16:59, RJH wrote:
    On 29 Mar 2023 at 9:27:22 PM, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    I don't care either way.

    Why do you think Apple spends millions advertising not anything important about the iPhone but the yellow color and the fancy new emoji instead?

    Do you think Apple doesn't know the kind of people who buy Apple's iPhones?

    Yes. And they divide their market (as good market researchers do) into
    many demographics, segments and categories with overlapping interests.

    Because: people are not monolithic. So, while the whole "yellow" thing
    might not appeal to me or you, it will 1) Appeal to some people and 2)
    cause others to re-visit the notion of upgrading their phone - not
    necessarily to a yellow one.

    So, because Apple is "an ungodly well managed business"[1], it carefully
    rolls out marketing and sales campaigns to increase sales as it is duty
    bound to itself and investors.

    In the meantime the haters are going to raise a dog whistle over it
    because they are all out of ammo everywhere else.

    [1] Charlie Munger,
    2022-02-16,
    The Daily Journal’s annual shareholders meeting

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  • From RJH@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Wed Mar 29 23:01:38 2023
    On 29 Mar 2023 at 10:16:53 PM, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    Do you think Apple doesn't know the kind of people who buy Apple's iPhones?

    Yes. And they divide their market (as good market researchers do) into
    many demographics, segments and categories with overlapping interests.

    Apple knows precisely what their customers are willing to pay more for.

    I can't find that Apple has "divided the market" for the mid-cycle iPhone
    14 in any other way than those expensive color and emoji advertisements.

    Can you point to any current mid-cycle ad specific to the iPhone 14 that "divided the market" in any other way than by a unique color & emoji?
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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Wed Mar 29 22:34:23 2023
    On 2023-03-29, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2023-03-29 16:44, Jolly Roger wrote:

    Adults can plainly see that this supposed "questioning" is actually
    just sealioning <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning> which is
    an age-old trolling tactic. You're not fooling anyone.

    just kf'd him - surprised I waited this long. Just not worth the
    electron flux or time to read his pablum.

    Thanks for the sealioning reference.

    Quote: <<It may take the form of "incessant, bad-faith invitations to
    engage in debate", and has been likened to a denial-of-service attack targeted at human beings.>>

    Which also applies to some others around here - and why we should all
    just ignore them.

    I'll go ahead and flip the switch back to "killed" too.

    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to RJH on Wed Mar 29 18:38:46 2023
    On 2023-03-29 18:01, RJH wrote:
    On 29 Mar 2023 at 10:16:53 PM, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    Do you think Apple doesn't know the kind of people who buy Apple's iPhones? >>
    Yes. And they divide their market (as good market researchers do) into
    many demographics, segments and categories with overlapping interests.

    Apple knows precisely what their customers are willing to pay more for.

    I can't find that Apple has "divided the market" for the mid-cycle iPhone
    14 in any other way than those expensive color and emoji advertisements.

    First off, you sort of answer it right there while ignoring other
    salients that I posted.

    What emoji advertisement? Do you even know what an "advertisement" is?

    Listing features of a revision (of which emojis was but one) is just
    saying what it was - it is not advertising.

    The one that struck me as useful was the background voice suppression.
    Should make future calls with people in noisy places more pleasant.

    Can you point to any current mid-cycle ad specific to the iPhone 14 that "divided the market" in any other way than by a unique color & emoji?

    Why should I? The point was about how market research works. And when
    you sell north of 200,000,000 phones per year, you can bet that maps
    onto very wide and finely divided market characteristics.

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    danger to American democracy.”
    - J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
    - Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
    committee

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