The Mute switch is the only piece of hardware on the iPhone which differentiates it from the Android phones and it is extremely useful.
I use it all the time when going in and out of meetings, and I don't
even have to take it out of my pocket to enable/disable it. But the
mere fact there is a visual indicator on the side to confirm the switch
is set is my favorite feature. There really is no good reason to
remove it other than to become more "Android-like" and to save $0.05
per phone.
On 3/30/2023 12:12 PM, badgolferman wrote:
The Mute switch is the only piece of hardware on the iPhone which
differentiates it from the Android phones and it is extremely useful.
I use it all the time when going in and out of meetings, and I don't
even have to take it out of my pocket to enable/disable it. But the
mere fact there is a visual indicator on the side to confirm the switch
is set is my favorite feature. There really is no good reason to
remove it other than to become more "Android-like" and to save $0.05
per phone.
I suspect that it saves more than $0.05 per phone. It's not just the
cost of the switch, it's that the switch affects waterproofness.
The Mute switch is the only piece of hardware on the iPhone which differentiates it from the Android phones and it is extremely useful.
I use it all the time when going in and out of meetings, and I don't
even have to take it out of my pocket to enable/disable it. But the
mere fact there is a visual indicator on the side to confirm the switch
is set is my favorite feature. There really is no good reason to
remove it other than to become more "Android-like" and to save $0.05
per phone.
I suspect that it saves more than $0.05 per phone. It's not just the
cost of the switch, it's that the switch affects waterproofness.
sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
On 3/30/2023 12:12 PM, badgolferman wrote:
The Mute switch is the only piece of hardware on the iPhone which
differentiates it from the Android phones and it is extremely useful.
I use it all the time when going in and out of meetings, and I don't
even have to take it out of my pocket to enable/disable it. But the
mere fact there is a visual indicator on the side to confirm the switch
is set is my favorite feature. There really is no good reason to
remove it other than to become more "Android-like" and to save $0.05
per phone.
I suspect that it saves more than $0.05 per phone. It's not just the
cost of the switch, it's that the switch affects waterproofness.
How much more waterproof does it need to be? Do iPhone users need their phones while deep sea diving?
The Mute switch is the only piece of hardware on the iPhone which differentiates it from the Android phones and it is extremely useful.
I use it all the time when going in and out of meetings, and I don't
even have to take it out of my pocket to enable/disable it. But the
mere fact there is a visual indicator on the side to confirm the switch
is set is my favorite feature. There really is no good reason to
remove it other than to become more "Android-like" and to save $0.05
per phone.
We have previously reported that solid-state buttons will be coming to
the 'Pro' lineup. Now, we are hearing that Apple will ditch the Mute
Switch on the iPhone 15 Pro in favor of an Apple Watch-like
customizable Action button.
https://wccftech.com/iphone-15-pro-action-button-like-apple-watch-ultra/
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
The Mute switch is the only piece of hardware on the iPhone which
differentiates it from the Android phones and it is extremely useful.
I use it all the time when going in and out of meetings, and I don't
even have to take it out of my pocket to enable/disable it. But the
mere fact there is a visual indicator on the side to confirm the switch
is set is my favorite feature. There really is no good reason to
remove it other than to become more "Android-like" and to save $0.05
per phone.
We have previously reported that solid-state buttons will be coming to
the 'Pro' lineup. Now, we are hearing that Apple will ditch the Mute
Switch on the iPhone 15 Pro in favor of an Apple Watch-like
customizable Action button.
https://wccftech.com/iphone-15-pro-action-button-like-apple-watch-ultra/
How DARE they add functionality! Take a single-purpose button and replace
it with a programmable button. So, nothing is being “removed”.
People just need SOMETHING to whine about.
On 2023-03-30 14:49, badgolferman wrote:
sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
On 3/30/2023 12:12 PM, badgolferman wrote:
The Mute switch is the only piece of hardware on the iPhone which
differentiates it from the Android phones and it is extremely useful.
I use it all the time when going in and out of meetings, and I don't
even have to take it out of my pocket to enable/disable it. But the
mere fact there is a visual indicator on the side to confirm the switch >>>> is set is my favorite feature. There really is no good reason to
remove it other than to become more "Android-like" and to save $0.05
per phone.
I suspect that it saves more than $0.05 per phone. It's not just the
cost of the switch, it's that the switch affects waterproofness.
How much more waterproof does it need to be? Do iPhone users need their
phones while deep sea diving?
You're.... ...not bright.
sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
I suspect that it saves more than $0.05 per phone. It's not just the
cost of the switch, it's that the switch affects waterproofness.
How much more waterproof does it need to be? Do iPhone users need their phones while deep sea diving?
I'll admit there is some utility in being able to know the state of the iPhone vis a vis silence simply by feeling the button...
...but let's see what they actually come out with.
I'll admit there is some utility in being able to know the state of the iPhone vis a vis silence simply by feeling the button...
In article <u051fd$12hpi$1@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
I'll admit there is some utility in being able to know the state of the
iPhone vis a vis silence simply by feeling the button...
there is, but there is also utility in making it a programmable button.
on the other hand, most iphone cases make it difficult to impossible to
feel the position of the button, with limited visibility as to the red marker, so there really isn't much of a loss.
there are always tradeoffs (another thing the trolls do not understand).
cost isn't the issue, nor is waterproofness which it already has, and
they aren't removing anything either.
apple is adding new useful functionality, something entirely lost on
the bashers.
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <u051fd$12hpi$1@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
I'll admit there is some utility in being able to know the state of the
iPhone vis a vis silence simply by feeling the button...
there is, but there is also utility in making it a programmable button.
on the other hand, most iphone cases make it difficult to impossible to
feel the position of the button, with limited visibility as to the red
marker, so there really isn't much of a loss.
there are always tradeoffs (another thing the trolls do not understand).
Apple has decided the mute switch is “not needed” and “no one wants it”,
just like everything else they’ve removed.
The Mute switch is the only piece of hardware on the iPhone which differentiates it from the Android phones and it is extremely useful.
I use it all the time when going in and out of meetings, and I don't
even have to take it out of my pocket to enable/disable it. But the
mere fact there is a visual indicator on the side to confirm the switch
is set is my favorite feature. There really is no good reason to
remove it other than to become more "Android-like" and to save $0.05
per phone.
----------
We have previously reported that solid-state buttons will be coming to
the 'Pro' lineup. Now, we are hearing that Apple will ditch the Mute
Switch on the iPhone 15 Pro in favor of an Apple Watch-like
customizable Action button.
https://wccftech.com/iphone-15-pro-action-button-like-apple-watch-ultra/
On 2023-03-30 18:11, Alan wrote:
I'll admit there is some utility in being able to know the state of
the iPhone vis a vis silence simply by feeling the button...
My iPhone is in a thin case - but thick enough on the edge that I can't
feel the position of the switch.
...but let's see what they actually come out with.
Per reports there will be haptic feedback when activating it (and deactivating it?). Status: To be seen.
On 2023-03-30 20:06, Zaidy036 wrote:
On 3/30/2023 6:25 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-03-30 18:11, Alan wrote:press one of the volume up/down switches and notice if the bell next
I'll admit there is some utility in being able to know the state of
the iPhone vis a vis silence simply by feeling the button...
My iPhone is in a thin case - but thick enough on the edge that I
can't feel the position of the switch.
...but let's see what they actually come out with.
Per reports there will be haptic feedback when activating it (and
deactivating it?). Status: To be seen.
to volume level is red & slashed indicating silent
If that's a suggestion, then it would be easier to just indicate it's in silent mode when glancing at the lock or whatever screen...
On 3/30/2023 6:25 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-03-30 18:11, Alan wrote:press one of the volume up/down switches and notice if the bell next to volume level is red & slashed indicating silent
I'll admit there is some utility in being able to know the state of
the iPhone vis a vis silence simply by feeling the button...
My iPhone is in a thin case - but thick enough on the edge that I
can't feel the position of the switch.
...but let's see what they actually come out with.
Per reports there will be haptic feedback when activating it (and
deactivating it?). Status: To be seen.
sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
On 3/30/2023 12:12 PM, badgolferman wrote:
The Mute switch is the only piece of hardware on the iPhone which
differentiates it from the Android phones and it is extremely useful.
I use it all the time when going in and out of meetings, and I don't
even have to take it out of my pocket to enable/disable it. But the
mere fact there is a visual indicator on the side to confirm the switch
is set is my favorite feature. There really is no good reason to
remove it other than to become more "Android-like" and to save $0.05
per phone.
I suspect that it saves more than $0.05 per phone. It's not just the
cost of the switch, it's that the switch affects waterproofness.
How much more waterproof does it need to be? Do iPhone users need their phones while deep sea diving?
Apple has decided the mute switch is not needed and no one wants it,
just like everything else theyve removed.
sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
On 3/30/2023 12:12 PM, badgolferman wrote:
The Mute switch is the only piece of hardware on the iPhone which
differentiates it from the Android phones and it is extremely useful.
I use it all the time when going in and out of meetings, and I don't
even have to take it out of my pocket to enable/disable it. But the
mere fact there is a visual indicator on the side to confirm the switch
is set is my favorite feature. There really is no good reason to
remove it other than to become more "Android-like" and to save $0.05
per phone.
I suspect that it saves more than $0.05 per phone. It's not just the
cost of the switch, it's that the switch affects waterproofness.
How much more waterproof does it need to be? Do iPhone users need their phones while deep sea diving?
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <u051fd$12hpi$1@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
I'll admit there is some utility in being able to know the state of the
iPhone vis a vis silence simply by feeling the button...
there is, but there is also utility in making it a programmable button.
on the other hand, most iphone cases make it difficult to impossible to
feel the position of the button, with limited visibility as to the red
marker, so there really isn't much of a loss.
there are always tradeoffs (another thing the trolls do not understand).
Apple has decided the mute switch is “not needed” and “no one wants it”,
just like everything else they’ve removed.
The issue is that the presence of the switch increases the expense of achieving IP68. Removing it decreases the expense of achieving IP68.
On 2023-03-30 14:49, badgolferman wrote:
sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
On 3/30/2023 12:12 PM, badgolferman wrote:
The Mute switch is the only piece of hardware on the iPhone which
differentiates it from the Android phones and it is extremely useful.
I use it all the time when going in and out of meetings, and I don't
even have to take it out of my pocket to enable/disable it. But the
mere fact there is a visual indicator on the side to confirm the switch >>>> is set is my favorite feature. There really is no good reason to
remove it other than to become more "Android-like" and to save $0.05
per phone.
I suspect that it saves more than $0.05 per phone. It's not just the
cost of the switch, it's that the switch affects waterproofness.
How much more waterproof does it need to be? Do iPhone users need their
phones while deep sea diving?
You're.... ...not bright.
sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
I suspect that it saves more than $0.05 per phone. It's not just the
cost of the switch, it's that the switch affects waterproofness.
How much more waterproof does it need to be? Do iPhone users need their phones while deep sea diving?
In article <u05o0s$18spq$1@dont-email.me>, sms^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
The issue is that the presence of the switch increases the expense of
achieving IP68. Removing it decreases the expense of achieving IP68.
that is very definitely *not* the issue.
stop spewing bullshit for once in your life.
On the three iPhones that I have owned, they were always in cases from
day one and the mute switch has always been easily accessible.
The case manufacturers put in a big opening so the mute switch can be
flipped on and off.
This was not even a case feature I thought about,
nor is it ever mentioned by the case manufacturer, it is just something
that the case manufacturers are diligent enough to include.
--
“If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards
sms wrote:
If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.Tin Foil Awards
I disagree with this statement. Experts often are only "self-described experts" and have no real experience with whatever they are pushing.
I tend to trust the opinion of people who have actual real-world
experience with situations or products.
On 3/30/2023 8:39 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-03-30 20:06, Zaidy036 wrote:Not a suggestion - what it does now.
On 3/30/2023 6:25 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2023-03-30 18:11, Alan wrote:press one of the volume up/down switches and notice if the bell next
I'll admit there is some utility in being able to know the state of
the iPhone vis a vis silence simply by feeling the button...
My iPhone is in a thin case - but thick enough on the edge that I
can't feel the position of the switch.
...but let's see what they actually come out with.
Per reports there will be haptic feedback when activating it (and
deactivating it?). Status: To be seen.
to volume level is red & slashed indicating silent
If that's a suggestion, then it would be easier to just indicate it's
in silent mode when glancing at the lock or whatever screen...
I tend to trust the opinion of people who have actual real-world
experience with situations or products.
I tend to trust the opinion of people who have actual real-world
experience with situations or products.
Absolutely. Appreciate that you recognize this.
On the three iPhones that I have owned, they were always in cases from
day one and the mute switch has always been easily accessible.
nobody said all cases and three is not even close to a valid sample
size.
The Mute switch is the only piece of hardware on the iPhone which
differentiates it from the Android phones and it is extremely useful.
I use it all the time when going in and out of meetings, and I don't
even have to take it out of my pocket to enable/disable it. But the
mere fact there is a visual indicator on the side to confirm the switch >>>> is set is my favorite feature. There really is no good reason to
remove it other than to become more "Android-like" and to save $0.05
per phone.
I suspect that it saves more than $0.05 per phone. It's not just the
cost of the switch, it's that the switch affects waterproofness.
How much more waterproof does it need to be? Do iPhone users need their
phones while deep sea diving?
You'll need to ask nospam. He knows exactly what everyone wants and
needs.
Until then you can safely assume that mute switch is not needed and
not wanted.
I tend to trust the opinion of people who have actual real-world
experience with situations or products. An example may be my next door neighbor and his five-year-old car.
You always bring up that floppy disk argument every time something useful >>> is removed from the iPhone that you think is not needed and not wanted. >>That's not "why" he brought it up. He brought it up as a last absurd
example after the trolls keep repeating the same nonsense over and over
again. iPhone dropped the 3.5mm jack a long time ago. The world has
moved on. Never had SD cards or changeable batteries. But the trolls
keep banging on that. Sheesh!
Apple have long been amongst the first to drop peripherals or features
that are "dated" and to be surprised that they're *** changing things going
forward is pretty silly.
Most of all for something like a mute switch - sheesh!
except they are not removing the mute switch.
Never said they were. I said, above: "changing" [***].
And even that's
enough to get the trolls lathered up.
In article <wsFVL.240871$0dpc.211883@fx33.iad>, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
You always bring up that floppy disk argument every time something useful >>> is removed from the iPhone that you think is not needed and not wanted.
That's not "why" he brought it up. He brought it up as a last absurd
example after the trolls keep repeating the same nonsense over and over
again. iPhone dropped the 3.5mm jack a long time ago. The world has
moved on. Never had SD cards or changeable batteries. But the trolls
keep banging on that. Sheesh!
Apple have long been amongst the first to drop peripherals or features
that are "dated" and to be surprised that they're *** changing things going >> forward is pretty silly.
Most of all for something like a mute switch - sheesh!
except they are not removing the mute switch.
On Mar 31, 2023, nospam wrote
(in article<news:310320230651007494%nospam@nospam.invalid>):
On the three iPhones that I have owned, they were always in cases from
day one and the mute switch has always been easily accessible.
nobody said all cases and three is not even close to a valid sample
size.
How big is your sample size when you say nobody wants it & nobody needs it?
LOL, The reality is that he'd be hard-pressed to find any case where the
mute switch is difficult to flip.
Here are the first three I looked at on Amazon. They all have a big
cutout for the mute switch so it's easy to access.
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