A new report has detailed the depreciation across Apple, Samsung, and Google’s flagship smartphones. Like in the past, the current iPhone
lineup retained the most value with Samsung’s new S23 lineup averaging
40% lower resale prices and Google Pixel 7 devices 48% weaker than the
iPhone 14 average prices. Follow along for all the details including
which iPhone, Samsung, and Pixel models retained the most value and
more.

For the average depreciation across the smartphone lineups (in “Like
New” condition), the latest iPhones saw a drop in value of 32.3% in the
first month compared to 41.1 and 43.1% for the Galaxy S23 and Pixel 7
device averages, respectively.

After two months, the study found iPhone values actually improved,
while Galaxy and Pixel values continued to decline.

The two-month comparison showed iPhones lost 31% of value compared to
43.3 and 45.9% for the Galaxy S23 and Pixel 7 device averages.

While the iPhone 14 lineup held onto value much better than the
competition, the report highlights that the iPhone 13 lineup did even
better – only losing an average of 23.4% of value after two months
compared to the 31% that that iPhone 14 lineup averaged.

https://9to5mac.com/2023/04/06/iphone-14-depreciation-vs-galaxy-s23-google-pixel-7/

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The whole "study" turns out to be a gimmick, badgolferman.

1. It's for a two month period only! HINT: That's ludicrous.
2. Who the hell sells their phone after two months?
3. Even so, it doesn't start with a realistic starting price.

Not only that...

1. The resale-value premise for a thousand dollar phone is ridiculous
2. The thousand-dollar phone market is clearly not price sensitive
3. And, almost nobody buys an Android phone at the MSRP anyway

Not only that...

1. They cherry picked the devices for the least cost sensitive
2. Where the Android will _always_ be better than the iPhone
3. In terms of hardware, available apps, and accessory options

Not only that...
1. They didn't look at total costs - only MSRP to resale value
2. And it's not clear _how_ they determined resale value (yet)
3. As Apple has a better resale chain for 2-month-old phones

Even so...
1. The curves are, surprising, not all that different anyway
2. The shape is very steep, so it's easily subject to timing
3. If anything, it says don't buy an Android at the release date

I'm well educated badgolferman, and I only skimmed that article so some of
my assessments may be wrong but the article made no attempt to be
scientific in my humblest of opinion.

The time period is bogus.
The prices are bogus.
And the premise is bogus.

It's bullshit.

I wouldn't conclude anything other than man oh man, do expensive phones
drop in _price_ a lot during the first two months after they're offered.

HINT: Price is not resale value.

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On 4/7/2023 8:55 AM, badgolferman wrote:

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While the iPhone 14 lineup held onto value much better than the
competition, the report highlights that the iPhone 13 lineup did even
better – only losing an average of 23.4% of value after two months
compared to the 31% that that iPhone 14 lineup averaged.

There's a reason for that. The iPhone 13 Pro and the iPhone 13 Pro Max
are highly sought after and are in very short supply. Apple has no new
ones for sale. Some carriers still have some left over, but some are
sold out.

The best you can do for a new one is to buy a locked one from T-Mobile
and pay for two months of service to get it unlocked. This is actually
_less_ expensive than buying a used, excellent condition, unlocked, unit
from Swappa or Backmarket.

I went through this recently with my sister's significant other whose
iPhone 12 Pro was stolen in Paris. He travels extensively and he needs a
phone with a physical SIM card slot so the U.S. iPhone 14 Pro was not an option. He could have bought a non-U.S. iPhone 14 which did not have the physical SIM slot decontented but there could be warranty issues with
that approach, plus he'd lose mmWave 5G.

--
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really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

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In article <u0rrmo$19fcs$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

While the iPhone 14 lineup held onto value much better than the competition, the report highlights that the iPhone 13 lineup did even better � only losing an average of 23.4% of value after two months
compared to the 31% that that iPhone 14 lineup averaged.

There's a reason for that. The iPhone 13 Pro and the iPhone 13 Pro Max
are highly sought after and are in very short supply. Apple has no new
ones for sale. Some carriers still have some left over, but some are
sold out.

the survey doesn't call out the pro specifically and you're also
overstating its demand.

those who want a used phone are likely doing so because of budget
constraints and therefore looking for a non-pro iphone versus a pro.

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On 4/7/23 16:55, badgolferman wrote:

A new report has detailed the depreciation across Apple, Samsung, and Google’s flagship smartphones. Like in the past, the current iPhone
lineup retained the most value with Samsung’s new S23 lineup averaging
40% lower resale prices and Google Pixel 7 devices 48% weaker than the
iPhone 14 average prices. Follow along for all the details including
which iPhone, Samsung, and Pixel models retained the most value and
more.

For the average depreciation across the smartphone lineups (in “Like
New” condition), the latest iPhones saw a drop in value of 32.3% in the first month compared to 41.1 and 43.1% for the Galaxy S23 and Pixel 7
device averages, respectively.

After two months, the study found iPhone values actually improved,
while Galaxy and Pixel values continued to decline.

The two-month comparison showed iPhones lost 31% of value compared to
43.3 and 45.9% for the Galaxy S23 and Pixel 7 device averages.

While the iPhone 14 lineup held onto value much better than the
competition, the report highlights that the iPhone 13 lineup did even
better – only losing an average of 23.4% of value after two months
compared to the 31% that that iPhone 14 lineup averaged.

https://9to5mac.com/2023/04/06/iphone-14-depreciation-vs-galaxy-s23-google-pixel-7/

iDvices have traditionally had greater longevity than their Android equivalents. Samsung used to be particularly notorious in this regards.
This is changing. My Pixel 6 is supported through to 26 (likely with security updates for a time thereafter). Samsung has also upped their
own game.

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