• iOS 16.4 broke a lot of things - much more than Apple says

    From NewsKrawler@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 9 02:12:46 2023
    iOS 16.4 broke a lot of things https://www.macworld.com/article/1717319/ios-16-4-1-macos-13-3-1updates-bug-fixes-weather-home-handoff.html
    The iOS 16.4.1 and macOS 13.3.1 updates fix much more than Apple says

    When it comes to OS updates, we here at Macworld encourage users to install them as soon as possible. Updates sometimes have nice new features, but
    it's the bug fixes and security updates that are the most important.

    But with iOS 16.4, iPadOS 16.4, and macOS 13.3, the update to the update
    was the one worth waiting for, and they could be the most important ones of
    the year, depending on the issues you've had with your devices.

    On Friday, Apple released small updates to iOS 16.4 and macOS 13.3, and if
    you look at the release notes, they're extremely small updates.

    Just three insignificant issues are mentioned-fixes to Siri, Auto Unlock
    your Mac with Apple Watch, and an emoji, but they are much bigger than
    that.

    For one, they include two major security patches for vulnerabilities that
    uses the standard Apple term of "may have been actively exploited."

    And for another, they appear to fix most if not all of the bugs introduced
    in iOS 16.4 and macOS 13.3.

    iOS 16.4 and iPadOS 16.4
    Weather app: The Weather app that many of us come to rely upon to set the
    tone for the day has problems displaying the forecast. Earlier this week,
    the Weather app had a complete data outage, and while service is restored (according to Apple's System Status website), the app still acts wonky. We don't know for sure if the Weather app is fixed, but we haven't experienced
    any issues since Friday.

    Battery drain: There always seems to be a vocal number of users who
    experience shortened battery life when an update is released. But the
    number of anecdotal accounts, such as those on Apple's Support Community,
    seems to be more frequent with iOS 16.4. YouTuber iAppleBytes has a video demonstration of a Geekbench battery test with iOS 16.4 that supports the shortened battery life claim. Battery drain is always difficult to
    quantify, but we haven't noticed any unusual drain in iOS 16.4.1.

    Home app: The Home app, used to control smart home devices, got an update
    to its architecture, but Apple stumbled during its rollout. It was
    initially offered in iOS 16.2 but it was pulled back and then released with
    iOS 16.4. Now, there are a number of complaints about the reworked app,
    reports iMore. We didn't experience issues in iOS 16.4, but our Home app is working well in iOS 16.4.1.

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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to NewsKrawler on Sun Apr 9 11:19:46 2023
    NewsKrawler <newskrawl@krawl.org> wrote:

    Just three insignificant issues are mentioned-fixes to Siri, Auto Unlock
    your Mac with Apple Watch, and an emoji, but they are much bigger than
    that.


    A new emoji? Everyone wants it and everyone needs it! That’s what will get users to install the update.

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  • From Neil@21:1/5 to NewsKrawler on Sun Apr 9 09:45:32 2023
    On 4/9/2023 2:12 AM, NewsKrawler wrote:
    iOS 16.4 broke a lot of things https://www.macworld.com/article/1717319/ios-16-4-1-macos-13-3-1updates-bug-fixes-weather-home-handoff.html
    The iOS 16.4.1 and macOS 13.3.1 updates fix much more than Apple says

    Did anyone notice the Apple logo Macworld used to illustrate that article? https://www.macworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/macbook-pro-with-bugs-12.jpg


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  • From Ken Hart@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Sun Apr 9 09:41:00 2023
    On 4/9/2023 11:19 AM, badgolferman wrote:

    Just three insignificant issues are mentioned-fixes to Siri, Auto Unlock
    your Mac with Apple Watch, and an emoji, but they are much bigger than
    that.


    A new emoji? Everyone wants it and everyone needs it! Thats what will get users to install the update.

    The one emoji is much more important than any bugfixes, which is why Apple mentioned that emoji but not the bugfixes (at least that is what MacWorld opined when they suggested Apple didn't say all that was in the release).

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  • From Bob Campbell@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 9 14:42:45 2023
    So, let me see if I have properly digested this stunning news. The x.x.1 software update fixes bugs in the x.x software update.

    Wow. This is REALLY news! This has never happened before!

    I’ll make the BOLD prediction right now. 16.4.2 will fix bugs in 16.4.1.
    Now you won’t have to hyperventilate when 16.4.2 comes out in 5 weeks.

    Long range prediction: iOS 27.4.3 will fix bugs in 27.4.2.

    You are such a twat, Arlen. Go back to krawling around with your
    Ultrasonic File Transfers.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Bob Campbell on Sun Apr 9 10:51:35 2023
    On 2023-04-09 10:42, Bob Campbell wrote:
    So, let me see if I have properly digested this stunning news. The x.x.1 software update fixes bugs in the x.x software update.

    Wow. This is REALLY news! This has never happened before!

    Thank you for expressing what I was terrified to say publicly.

    I'm feeling much better now.

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  • From mike@21:1/5 to bitbucket@blackhole.com on Sun Apr 9 20:31:28 2023
    On 09-04-2023 20:21 Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    Thank you for expressing what I was terrified to say publicly.

    It doesn't strike you as odd what macworld noticed, which is that Apple promotes the one emoji at the same time Apple hides multiple bug fixes?

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to mike on Sun Apr 9 11:21:54 2023
    On 2023-04-09 11:01, mike wrote:
    On 09-04-2023 20:21 Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    Thank you for expressing what I was terrified to say publicly.

    It doesn't strike you as odd what macworld noticed, which is that Apple promotes the one emoji at the same time Apple hides multiple bug fixes?


    What strikes me as odd is people's obsession over emojis and phone
    colour. Bug fixes are inexorable.

    The world has moved on. A lot. But these trolls remain obsessed and
    tiny minded.

    And tomorrow the world will have moved further. The trolls: not at all.

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    “Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
    danger to American democracy.”
    - J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
    - Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
    committee

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Bob Campbell on Sun Apr 9 16:43:29 2023
    On 2023-04-09, Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:
    Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    What strikes me as odd is people's obsession over emojis and phone
    colour. Bug fixes are inexorable.

    It only seems odd to you because you assume these are “people”. They are trolls. Trolls are not rational people, as evidenced by the
    daily bullshit they spew here.

    But I digress.

    The fact is, all software has bugs. That MacWorld - and iMore - are
    just now learning this means they have been living in a fantasy land.

    Look at the earth-shaking conclusion this goofball at iMore just
    realized:

    <https://www.imore.com/ios/ios-16/apples-software-updates-are-breaking-things-is-it-time-we-delayed-installing-them>

    “I've historically told people to install the new hotness immediately. Whether it's an update to iOS 16 or macOS Ventura, or indeed any other
    Apple operating system, my stance has always been to install the
    updates immediately. Who doesn't want more features and fewer bugs?”

    What an extremely naive viewpoint.

    Well, his bio says he has "written about Apple and the wider technology business for more than a decade". So hasn't actually been doing this
    very long. : )

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sun Apr 9 16:36:11 2023
    On 2023-04-09, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2023-04-09 11:01, mike wrote:
    On 09-04-2023 20:21 Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    Thank you for expressing what I was terrified to say publicly.

    It doesn't strike you as odd what macworld noticed, which is that
    Apple promotes the one emoji at the same time Apple hides multiple
    bug fixes?

    What strikes me as odd is people's obsession over emojis and phone
    colour. Bug fixes are inexorable.

    The world has moved on. A lot. But these trolls remain obsessed and
    tiny minded.

    And tomorrow the world will have moved further. The trolls: not at
    all.

    I feel sorry for them. This really is the only semblance of joy they
    have in their miserable lives.

    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Neil on Sun Apr 9 17:01:51 2023
    Neil <neil@myplaceofwork.com> wrote:
    On 4/9/2023 2:12 AM, NewsKrawler wrote:
    iOS 16.4 broke a lot of things https://www.macworld.com/article/1717319/ios-16-4-1-macos-13-3-1updates-bug-fixes-weather-home-handoff.html
    The iOS 16.4.1 and macOS 13.3.1 updates fix much more than Apple says

    Did anyone notice the Apple logo Macworld used to illustrate that article? https://www.macworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/macbook-pro-with-bugs-12.jpg

    It's missing ants. :P
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  • From Bob Campbell@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sun Apr 9 16:36:56 2023
    Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    What strikes me as odd is people's obsession over emojis and phone
    colour. Bug fixes are inexorable.

    It only seems odd to you because you assume these are “people”. They are trolls. Trolls are not rational people, as evidenced by the daily
    bullshit they spew here.

    But I digress.

    The fact is, all software has bugs. That MacWorld - and iMore - are just
    now learning this means they have been living in a fantasy land.

    Look at the earth-shaking conclusion this goofball at iMore just realized:

    <https://www.imore.com/ios/ios-16/apples-software-updates-are-breaking-things-is-it-time-we-delayed-installing-them>

    “I've historically told people to install the new hotness immediately. Whether it's an update to iOS 16 or macOS Ventura, or indeed any other
    Apple operating system, my stance has always been to install the updates immediately. Who doesn't want more features and fewer bugs?”

    What an extremely naive viewpoint.

    “I'm starting to rethink that. I'm thinking, maybe, it's time that someone else found the bugs instead.”

    I have been saying this for YEARS. There is absolutely no reason to
    install any software update the day it is released. Unless you (1) have
    some critical issue in the current version AND (2) know for certain that it
    is fixed in the update, then by all means install it.

    Otherwise, let it age for a while. Let others do the testing. In a few
    days, reviews will start coming in about this or that problems. Or they won’t, meaning it is probably safe to install.

    Hell, I skipped iOS/iPadOS 13 entirely. It was a raging dumpster fire. I
    went from 12.4.1 to 14.1.2 (or something). Everything ran fine, and I
    laughed at least once a week at the problems being reported in iOS 13.

    This is a good place to point out that Apple does not force this stuff on
    you. Try going 15 months without updates in Windows.

    I will never understand the rush to blindly install every update the day it appears, and then whine about problems. You have no one to blame but yourself.

    I am still on 16.3.1 on my iPads/iPhones. If there are no reports of
    issues in 16.4.1, then I might install it.

    Or I might not. My life is not defined by having “the latest and greatest”. One does not necessarily require the other.

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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sun Apr 9 17:53:33 2023
    Alan Browne wrote:

    The world has moved on. A lot. But these trolls remain obsessed and
    tiny minded.

    --
    “Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
    danger to American democracy.”
    - J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
    - Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
    committee


    Yeah, I know what you mean...

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Bob Campbell on Sun Apr 9 13:54:37 2023
    On 2023-04-09 12:36, Bob Campbell wrote:

    I will never understand the rush to blindly install every update the day it appears, and then whine about problems. You have no one to blame but yourself.

    I am still on 16.3.1 on my iPads/iPhones. If there are no reports of
    issues in 16.4.1, then I might install it.

    Or I might not. My life is not defined by having “the latest and greatest”. One does not necessarily require the other.

    I'm never in much of a rush to install major OS updates. Wait for the
    rest to discover issues (and fixes) and get the XX.0.1 or .0.2 version.
    These follow (if there were issues) within 2 or 3 days.

    Minor updates I wait a few days.

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    danger to American democracy.”
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    - Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
    committee

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