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  • iOS 16.4.1(a) rapid security response

    From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 3 01:12:12 2023
    And now for something completely different. It was a quick process.
    Downloaded without spending time on preparing update. Must be important.

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  • From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to ecphoric@allspamis.invalid on Wed May 3 01:15:52 2023
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
    And now for something completely different. It was a quick process. Downloaded without spending time on preparing update. Must be important.



    https://www.macrumors.com/2023/05/01/rapid-security-response-16-4-1/

    “Update: Apple is releasing the Rapid Security Response updates on a
    rolling basis across next 48 hours, so not all users will see it right
    away.”

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 2 21:51:35 2023
    On 5/2/2023 8:15 PM, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
    And now for something completely different. It was a quick process.
    Downloaded without spending time on preparing update. Must be important.



    https://www.macrumors.com/2023/05/01/rapid-security-response-16-4-1/

    “Update: Apple is releasing the Rapid Security Response updates on a rolling basis across next 48 hours, so not all users will see it right away.”

    I think it was about a month ago my IPhone XR would not stay in Light
    mode and kept reverting to dark mode. I ended up having to do a full
    reset to fix it. Hadn't switched to dark mode since. Until today after installing this fix. It restarted in dark mode. Told siri to turn it
    off and she said it already was off, which I already knew since I
    checked first.

    For now, a power off and back on has reset it to light mode. Hope it
    sticks.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to ecphoric@allspamis.invalid on Wed May 3 03:35:58 2023
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
    And now for something completely different. It was a quick process. Downloaded without spending time on preparing update. Must be important.

    And still needs a reboot.
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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 3 08:06:55 2023
    Am 03.05.23 um 03:15 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
    And now for something completely different. It was a quick process.
    Downloaded without spending time on preparing update. Must be important.



    https://www.macrumors.com/2023/05/01/rapid-security-response-16-4-1/

    “Update: Apple is releasing the Rapid Security Response updates on a rolling basis across next 48 hours, so not all users will see it right away.”

    I had it on our Apple devices 30 hours before you wrote your posting.

    --
    Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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  • From quicksilver@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 3 01:53:14 2023
    On Wed, 03 May 2023 01:12:12 +0000, *Hemidactylus* wrote:

    And now for something completely different.

    It's a new way of releasing software so there was a slight hiccup. https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/1/23706883/apple-ios-16-iphone-rapid-security-update-error-internet-connection

    This partial patch capability is a new way of updating built into iOS 16. https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT201224

    Google added a similar partial update capability in Android 4.4
    but it took until about Android 10 until they ironed out the bugs.

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 3 08:08:11 2023
    Am 03.05.23 um 05:35 schrieb Ant:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
    And now for something completely different. It was a quick process.
    Downloaded without spending time on preparing update. Must be important.

    And still needs a reboot.

    So what!

    --
    Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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  • From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Wed May 3 10:13:41 2023
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 03.05.23 um 03:15 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
    And now for something completely different. It was a quick process.
    Downloaded without spending time on preparing update. Must be important. >>>


    https://www.macrumors.com/2023/05/01/rapid-security-response-16-4-1/

    “Update: Apple is releasing the Rapid Security Response updates on a
    rolling basis across next 48 hours, so not all users will see it right
    away.”

    I had it on our Apple devices 30 hours before you wrote your posting.

    Did you get the checkered flag? I didn’t realize it was a competition.

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to sticks on Wed May 3 06:30:52 2023
    On 5/2/2023 9:51 PM, sticks wrote:
    On 5/2/2023 8:15 PM, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
    And now for something completely different. It was a quick process.
    Downloaded without spending time on preparing update. Must be important. >>>


    https://www.macrumors.com/2023/05/01/rapid-security-response-16-4-1/

    “Update: Apple is releasing the Rapid Security Response updates on a
    rolling basis across next 48 hours, so not all users will see it right
    away.”

    I think it was about a month ago my IPhone XR would not stay in Light
    mode and kept reverting to dark mode.  I ended up having to do a full
    reset to fix it.  Hadn't switched to dark mode since.  Until today after installing this fix.  It restarted in dark mode.  Told siri to turn it
    off and she said it already was off, which I already knew since I
    checked first.

    For now, a power off and back on has reset it to light mode.  Hope it sticks.

    Nope. Back to dark mode this morning. Crap.

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  • From Bob Campbell@21:1/5 to ecphoric@allspamis.invalid on Wed May 3 13:43:31 2023
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:

    “Update: Apple is releasing the Rapid Security Response updates on a rolling basis across next 48 hours, so not all users will see it right away.”

    I saw it. I passed.

    I’ll wait for real updates. The last thing I want to install is an update that was coded/tested/published “rapidly”. 🙄

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 3 16:20:07 2023
    Am 03.05.23 um 12:13 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 03.05.23 um 03:15 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
    And now for something completely different. It was a quick process.
    Downloaded without spending time on preparing update. Must be important. >>>>


    https://www.macrumors.com/2023/05/01/rapid-security-response-16-4-1/

    “Update: Apple is releasing the Rapid Security Response updates on a
    rolling basis across next 48 hours, so not all users will see it right
    away.”

    I had it on our Apple devices 30 hours before you wrote your posting.

    Did you get the checkered flag? I didn’t realize it was a competition.

    But the "information" you spread is just a disclaimer by Apple an not to
    be taken by the face value.

    --
    Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to sticks on Wed May 3 16:51:33 2023
    On 2023-05-03, sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 5/2/2023 8:15 PM, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:

    And now for something completely different. It was a quick process.
    Downloaded without spending time on preparing update. Must be
    important.

    https://www.macrumors.com/2023/05/01/rapid-security-response-16-4-1/

    “Update: Apple is releasing the Rapid Security Response updates on a
    rolling basis across next 48 hours, so not all users will see it
    right away.”

    I think it was about a month ago my IPhone XR would not stay in Light
    mode and kept reverting to dark mode. I ended up having to do a full
    reset to fix it. Hadn't switched to dark mode since. Until today
    after installing this fix. It restarted in dark mode. Told siri to
    turn it off and she said it already was off, which I already knew
    since I checked first.

    For now, a power off and back on has reset it to light mode. Hope it
    sticks.

    That's a really obscure bug that I haven't seen any other cases of. Have
    you contacted Apple support about this issue?

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    JR

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Bob Campbell on Wed May 3 16:53:19 2023
    On 2023-05-03, Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:

    “Update: Apple is releasing the Rapid Security Response updates on a
    rolling basis across next 48 hours, so not all users will see it
    right away.”

    I saw it. I passed.

    I’ll wait for real updates. The last thing I want to install is an
    update that was coded/tested/published “rapidly”. 🙄

    It's for enhanced security, so I installed it right away on all of our
    devices. And I haven't seen any problems reported from those who have
    installed it.

    --
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    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Bob Campbell on Sat May 6 10:39:52 2023
    On 2023-05-03 09:43, Bob Campbell wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:

    “Update: Apple is releasing the Rapid Security Response updates on a
    rolling basis across next 48 hours, so not all users will see it right
    away.”

    I saw it. I passed.

    I’ll wait for real updates. The last thing I want to install is an update that was coded/tested/published “rapidly”. 🙄

    As I understand it, this update, itself, is not critical it is to permit
    the rapid dissemination of critical security updates.

    --
    “Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
    danger to American democracy.”
    - J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
    - Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
    committee

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 6 10:37:35 2023
    On 2023-05-03 06:13, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 03.05.23 um 03:15 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
    And now for something completely different. It was a quick process.
    Downloaded without spending time on preparing update. Must be important. >>>>


    https://www.macrumors.com/2023/05/01/rapid-security-response-16-4-1/

    “Update: Apple is releasing the Rapid Security Response updates on a
    rolling basis across next 48 hours, so not all users will see it right
    away.”

    I had it on our Apple devices 30 hours before you wrote your posting.

    Did you get the checkered flag? I didn’t realize it was a competition.

    With Joerg if he got there first, it's important.
    If he got there later, people are all excited over nothing.

    --
    “Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
    danger to American democracy.”
    - J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
    - Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
    committee

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  • From RJH@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sat May 6 16:07:54 2023
    On 6 May 2023 at 3:39:52 PM, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    As I understand it, this update, itself, is not critical it is to permit
    the rapid dissemination of critical security updates.

    Wrong. This is bigger and more fundamental than you can ever imagine.

    The new ability to release patches incrementally was big news for Apple
    when it became possible in iOS/iPadOS 16.4.1 & macOS 13.3.1 to not have to build, test & roll out an entire release just to patch a security issue.

    You just don't keep up on what Apple does as they improve their releases. https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201224
    --
    Cheers, Rob

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Bob Campbell on Sat May 6 17:07:43 2023
    Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:

    “Update: Apple is releasing the Rapid Security Response updates on a
    rolling basis across next 48 hours, so not all users will see it right
    away.”

    I saw it. I passed.

    I’ll wait for real updates. The last thing I want to install is an update that was coded/tested/published “rapidly”. 🙄

    You sound like those who don't trust the covid vaccine because it was
    "rushed".

    The reason why these things are released urgently is because they are important. They aren't untested.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to RJH on Sat May 6 13:04:05 2023
    RJH wrote:
    On 6 May 2023 at 3:39:52 PM, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    As I understand it, this update, itself, is not critical it is to permit
    the rapid dissemination of critical security updates.

    Wrong. This is bigger and more fundamental than you can ever imagine.

    The new ability to release patches incrementally was big news for Apple
    when it became possible in iOS/iPadOS 16.4.1 & macOS 13.3.1 to not have to build, test & roll out an entire release just to patch a security issue.

    You just don't keep up on what Apple does as they improve their releases. https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201224


    So, are you saying arlen was right all along? That apple was only
    making updates of the entire system and was unable/unwilling to
    provide patches? Until now?

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  • From Bob Campbell@21:1/5 to Chris on Sat May 6 18:21:02 2023
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:

    I saw it. I passed.

    I’ll wait for real updates. The last thing I want to install is an update
    that was coded/tested/published “rapidly”. 🙄

    You sound like those who don't trust the covid vaccine because it was "rushed".

    No, I sound like someone who has been in software development for nearly 40 years.

    The reason why these things are released urgently is because they are important. They aren't untested.

    They are coded and tested quickly. That’s not software I want to install quickly.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to hank@nospam.invalid on Sat May 6 14:15:53 2023
    In article <qEw5M.2684297$iU59.359861@fx14.iad>, Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:

    So, are you saying arlen was right all along? That apple was only
    making updates of the entire system and was unable/unwilling to
    provide patches? Until now?

    he wasn't.

    the updates have always varied in size, containing whatever changed.

    they were not the entire system each time, which is easily determined
    by how long it takes to download, sometimes just a minute or so.

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  • From Bob Campbell@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sat May 6 18:35:36 2023
    Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:

    So, are you saying arlen was right all along? That apple was only
    making updates of the entire system and was unable/unwilling to
    provide patches? Until now?

    Arlen has never been right about anything.

    iOS updates have NEVER been “the entire OS distributed, even if only a
    single line of code was changed”. If he actually ever used an
    iPhone/iPad, he would know this to be true by the size difference between
    x.x.x updates and full version releases.

    But - as we all know - he was a stupid, lying, useless troll child.

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  • From RJH@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sat May 6 20:20:15 2023
    On 6 May 2023 at 12:04:05 PM, Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:

    You just don't keep up on what Apple does as they improve their releases.
    https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201224


    So, are you saying arlen was right all along?

    I was saying Alan Brown was wrong about this 1st emergency patch hotfix.

    That apple was only
    making updates of the entire system and was unable/unwilling to
    provide patches? Until now?

    What I was saying was this release is the first of many to come after Apple changed how they release iOS/iPadOS and macOS to allow emergency updates. https://www.deccanherald.com/business/technology/apple-rolls-out-rapid-security-response-update-to-iphones-ipads-macs-1214906.html

    Don't any of you ever read the news instead of guessing what Apple did? https://eclecticlight.co/2023/05/02/what-is-a-rapid-security-response-rsr/

    It's the 1st of a brand new system of patches much like an Android hotfix. https://www.thurrott.com/mobile/282573/apple-releases-first-rapid-security-fixes-ios-ipados-macos

    Did you read the link I provided about Apple said about the changes? https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201224

    Don't any of you ever read the news?
    This is a welcome change for Apple that was a long time overdue.

    What do those links above tell you about what's different since iOS 16.4.1?
    --
    Cheers, Rob

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  • From mike@21:1/5 to ant@zimage.comANT on Sun May 7 02:22:07 2023
    On 03-05-2023 09:05 Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    And still needs a reboot.

    It's a special type of hot fix that Apple only made possible recently.

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