In article <ua9c23$3d8tu$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
In any case, the reason that USB-C is better is because the part least
likely to break is in the phone.
very much wrong.
usb-c ports on phones (or other devices) contains a tab that can easily
bend or break. further, a usb-c cable has a tab with a small slot,
making it very difficult to bend or snap, which means in nearly every
case, the port will sustain damage.
On Lightning, the part least likely to
break is on the cable.
also very much wrong.
the tab on the lightning cable is intentionally designed to snap when torqued, to protect the port on the phone from damage.
you have it entirely backwards.
You often see complaints about broken or flaky
Lightning ports on iPhones because of the contact pins or the latches
weakening or breaking.
nope. not often.
nothing is perfect, so it does happen on occasion, but it's quite rare
(and lightning is used on far more than just iphones).
in nearly every case, all that's needed is cleaning out any accumulated
dirt with compressed air and/or a plastic pick. if a cable snapped,
remove the broken tab and replace the cable. it's easy and cheap.
note that there are *more* complaints about usb-c port failure (and
even worse, micro-usb, which is rated for fewer insertions) than
lightning.
there are also various non-compliant usb-c cables that can damage the
device.
It's inexpensive to replace defective USB-C
cable, but it's not inexpensive to replace a broken iPhone Lighining port.
comparing a cable replacement to a port replacement is a completely
bogus comparison.
obviously cables are cheaper to replace than ports, regardless of type.
as explained above, lighting is designed so that the cable fails first, making a repair inexpensive.
not so with usb-c, which will almost always require the port to be
replaced, and that usually means an entire logic board, which is not
cost effective. in other words, replace the device.
It'll all be moot soon. Apple will migrate the iPhone to USB-C just like
they've already done with the iPad.
ipads (and macbooks) have very different use cases, where it's not
unusual to connect external hard drives, displays and other
peripherals.
using a phones port for peripherals is extremely rare (android or ios).
that port is almost always used for charging.
using a phones port for peripherals is extremely rare (android or ios).
that port is almost always used for charging.
Glad you mentioned this. I guess buying an ipad or macbook means we get
a shitty substandard USB C port. The hell with that. I'll buy something
else or just do without. I wonder why apple dropped so low as to do away
with the good ole lightning?
sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
On 7/31/2023 2:56 PM, -hh wrote:
<snip>
Case in point, cheapest one offered: $250 before a $25 core trade-in credit:
Ouch, you're significantly over-paying at $250. An AGM could be close to
$200, a non-AGM around $100. See
<https://www.walmart.com/search?q=24F+battery+everstart>.
In any case, the reason that USB-C is better is because the part least
likely to break is in the phone. On Lightning, the part least likely to
break is on the cable. You often see complaints about broken or flaky
Lightning ports
You regularly say this. I have never, ever heard of a broken lightning
port. Please share an example from reddit. If they're so common it should
be easy.
In article <7U8yM.164449$xMqa.159454@fx12.iad>, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
Conversely - the lightning male part would seem more fragile to me than
the female part (on the phone) - but somehow they can still get damaged.
that's by design. it's a *lot* cheaper to replace a cable than the
device.
I'd surmise that foreign objects in there could ruin one pretty quick
(as for any connector).
it could, but it's usually just dirt which is easy to remove, without
any long term issues.
In article <Cd9yM.336946$SuUf.165615@fx14.iad>, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
I'd surmise that foreign objects in there could ruin one pretty quick >>>> (as for any connector).
it could, but it's usually just dirt which is easy to remove, without
any long term issues.
Dirt damage is foreign object damage.
dirt doesn't usually cause damage that requires a repair. it can affect
the connection, which is resolved when it's cleaned.
On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 4:00:57 PM UTC-4, Falafel Balls wrote:
On 1/8/2023, Alan Browne wrote:
Agree the Lightning had a huge advantage over micro-usb, being reversible. >>>> Competition is good because that forced USB-C to become the standard it is.
Yes - I certainly like them on my SO's MBA and will have them on my new
Mac (this fall? TBD) - need to see what Apple is doing this fall.
Agree with you that at the time the lightning connector first came out, it >> was much better than the micro and mini usb connectors - but USB-C is the
standard for most devices today - so I'm looking forward to the new iPhones >> having the standard connector everything else already uses.
I'm not. YMMV, but I've already had one Windows laptop give up the ghost when
the USB-C port failed, largely because of plug/unplug cycles due to it being moved
and docked for telework vs office during CoVid. Plus since USB-C is going to also
be a female port on the device, it is also going to be vulnerable to collecting up
"pocket grunge" when used on a small pocketed device such as a smartphone.
As such, it will need to be able to be cleaned without breaking it...good luck with
that male post inside.
As such, it will need to be able to be cleaned without breaking it...good luck with
that male post inside.
I've had to clean out the Lightning port on a few occasions...
(Use a plastic GUM dental pick with rubber coating; it works great!)
...and it would be harder having to go into a slot around a central post.
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