• iPhone 14 Pro battery down to 90%

    From Wilf@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 14 17:15:01 2023
    My 14 Pro used to last all day and more. Now after a year the battery
    is down to 90% but seems to last many hours less than originally. Is
    it worth having it replaced given that it seems to last far less than
    90% of the original time?

    TIA

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to Wilf on Thu Sep 14 12:20:02 2023
    In article <udvbi4$4uhu$1@solani.org>, Wilf <wilf21@is.invalid> wrote:

    My 14 Pro used to last all day and more. Now after a year the battery
    is down to 90% but seems to last many hours less than originally. Is
    it worth having it replaced given that it seems to last far less than
    90% of the original time?

    take it to an apple store. normally, 80% is the guideline for warranty replacement, but they can override that if they think it's an issue.

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  • From sms@21:1/5 to Wilf on Thu Sep 14 11:44:16 2023
    On 9/14/2023 11:15 AM, Wilf wrote:
    My 14 Pro used to last all day and more.  Now after a year the battery
    is down to 90% but seems to last many hours less than originally.   Is
    it worth having it replaced given that it seems to last far less than
    90% of the original time?

    Yes.

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  • From Chris in Makati@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 14 18:28:55 2023
    On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 12:20:02 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    In article <udvbi4$4uhu$1@solani.org>, Wilf <wilf21@is.invalid> wrote:

    My 14 Pro used to last all day and more. Now after a year the battery
    is down to 90% but seems to last many hours less than originally. Is
    it worth having it replaced given that it seems to last far less than
    90% of the original time?

    take it to an apple store. normally, 80% is the guideline for warranty >replacement, but they can override that if they think it's an issue.

    When my iPhone 7 Plus battery health got down to 85% I made an
    appointment with my local Apple store to have it replaced.

    They returned the phone two hours later in a non-working condition and
    claimed there was nothing they could do as the display was not
    original. The display and everything else was working perfectly when I
    took it in.

    When they break customers property like that and walk away it's not
    hard to see why they made over $80 billion profit in the last quarter.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to Makati on Thu Sep 14 13:50:15 2023
    In article <u1g6gipefqs6r5maijfa8tnc3ggjm7tos5@4ax.com>, Chris in
    Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:


    When my iPhone 7 Plus battery health got down to 85% I made an
    appointment with my local Apple store to have it replaced.

    They returned the phone two hours later in a non-working condition and claimed there was nothing they could do as the display was not
    original. The display and everything else was working perfectly when I
    took it in.

    was the display original?

    When they break customers property like that and walk away it's not
    hard to see why they made over $80 billion profit in the last quarter.

    trolling.

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  • From Wilf@21:1/5 to nospam on Thu Sep 14 19:18:50 2023
    On 14/09/2023 at 17:20, nospam wrote:
    In article <udvbi4$4uhu$1@solani.org>, Wilf <wilf21@is.invalid> wrote:

    My 14 Pro used to last all day and more. Now after a year the battery
    is down to 90% but seems to last many hours less than originally. Is
    it worth having it replaced given that it seems to last far less than
    90% of the original time?

    take it to an apple store. normally, 80% is the guideline for warranty replacement, but they can override that if they think it's an issue.

    Think I will, thanks.
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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to Wilf on Thu Sep 14 18:41:54 2023
    Wilf <wilf21@is.invalid> wrote:
    My 14 Pro used to last all day and more. Now after a year the battery
    is down to 90% but seems to last many hours less than originally. Is
    it worth having it replaced given that it seems to last far less than
    90% of the original time?

    TIA


    My iPhone 14 which is over a year old has 98% battery capacity. What would
    make yours get depleted so quickly? Is it possible you have open programs
    in the background constantly doing something? I’ve noticed if I leave a navigation program like Maps open in the background my phone starts to get warm. Good thing I barely use that program.

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  • From Wilf@21:1/5 to sms on Thu Sep 14 19:18:27 2023
    On 14/09/2023 at 17:44, sms wrote:
    On 9/14/2023 11:15 AM, Wilf wrote:
    My 14 Pro used to last all day and more.  Now after a year the battery
    is down to 90% but seems to last many hours less than originally.   Is
    it worth having it replaced given that it seems to last far less than
    90% of the original time?

    Yes.


    Thank you.
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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com on Thu Sep 14 15:02:09 2023
    In article <udvk5h$2o29u$1@dont-email.me>, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:


    My iPhone 14 which is over a year old

    the iphone 14 was released on 9/16/22, therefore it *can't* be 'over a
    year old'. at best, it's just under one year old (by 2 days), and as i
    recall, you weren't among the very first to buy one, so it's not even
    that.

    has 98% battery capacity. What would
    make yours get depleted so quickly? Is it possible you have open programs
    in the background constantly doing something?

    it's an issue affecting some 14s.

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  • From Wilf@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Thu Sep 14 20:47:22 2023
    On 14/09/2023 at 20:19, Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2023-09-14 12:15, Wilf wrote:
    My 14 Pro used to last all day and more.  Now after a year the battery
    is down to 90% but seems to last many hours less than originally.   Is
    it worth having it replaced given that it seems to last far less than
    90% of the original time?


    My iPhone 11 Pro is still at 90% and certainly lasts more than a full day.

    So - as nospam says - may be time to drop in at an Apple Store sometime
    soon.


    I think you're right. Thanks.
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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Wilf on Thu Sep 14 15:19:10 2023
    On 2023-09-14 12:15, Wilf wrote:
    My 14 Pro used to last all day and more.  Now after a year the battery
    is down to 90% but seems to last many hours less than originally.   Is
    it worth having it replaced given that it seems to last far less than
    90% of the original time?


    My iPhone 11 Pro is still at 90% and certainly lasts more than a full day.

    So - as nospam says - may be time to drop in at an Apple Store sometime
    soon.

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  • From Wilf@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Thu Sep 14 20:48:05 2023
    On 14/09/2023 at 19:41, badgolferman wrote:
    Wilf <wilf21@is.invalid> wrote:
    My 14 Pro used to last all day and more. Now after a year the battery
    is down to 90% but seems to last many hours less than originally. Is
    it worth having it replaced given that it seems to last far less than
    90% of the original time?

    TIA


    My iPhone 14 which is over a year old has 98% battery capacity. What would make yours get depleted so quickly? Is it possible you have open programs
    in the background constantly doing something? I’ve noticed if I leave a navigation program like Maps open in the background my phone starts to get warm. Good thing I barely use that program.

    I'll take a look but I don't believe so. THanks.


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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to nospam on Thu Sep 14 20:22:30 2023
    nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    In article <udvk5h$2o29u$1@dont-email.me>, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:


    My iPhone 14 which is over a year old

    the iphone 14 was released on 9/16/22, therefore it *can't* be 'over a
    year old'. at best, it's just under one year old (by 2 days), and as i recall, you weren't among the very first to buy one, so it's not even
    that.


    You’re right. I went back through my statements and it was in the November bill. So I got it in late October or early November. Almost a year.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 14 22:23:32 2023
    Am 14.09.23 um 19:28 schrieb Chris in Makati:
    On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 12:20:02 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    In article <udvbi4$4uhu$1@solani.org>, Wilf <wilf21@is.invalid> wrote:

    My 14 Pro used to last all day and more. Now after a year the battery
    is down to 90% but seems to last many hours less than originally. Is
    it worth having it replaced given that it seems to last far less than
    90% of the original time?

    take it to an apple store. normally, 80% is the guideline for warranty
    replacement, but they can override that if they think it's an issue.

    When my iPhone 7 Plus battery health got down to 85% I made an
    appointment with my local Apple store to have it replaced.

    They returned the phone two hours later in a non-working condition and claimed there was nothing they could do as the display was not
    original. The display and everything else was working perfectly when I
    took it in.

    When they break customers property like that and walk away it's not
    hard to see why they made over $80 billion profit in the last quarter.

    You are an incredible Troll!
    Your "story" is *a simple lie*.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 14 22:26:02 2023
    Am 14.09.23 um 20:41 schrieb badgolferman:
    My iPhone 14 which is over a year old has 98% battery capacity.

    My iPhone 14 is slightly over 10 month old and still has 100%.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 14 16:52:08 2023
    Jrg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 14.09.23 um 19:28 schrieb Chris in Makati:
    On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 12:20:02 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    In article <udvbi4$4uhu$1@solani.org>, Wilf <wilf21@is.invalid> wrote:

    My 14 Pro used to last all day and more. Now after a year the battery >>>> is down to 90% but seems to last many hours less than originally. Is >>>> it worth having it replaced given that it seems to last far less than
    90% of the original time?

    take it to an apple store. normally, 80% is the guideline for warranty
    replacement, but they can override that if they think it's an issue.

    When my iPhone 7 Plus battery health got down to 85% I made an
    appointment with my local Apple store to have it replaced.

    They returned the phone two hours later in a non-working condition and
    claimed there was nothing they could do as the display was not
    original. The display and everything else was working perfectly when I
    took it in.

    When they break customers property like that and walk away it's not
    hard to see why they made over $80 billion profit in the last quarter.

    You are an incredible Troll!
    Your "story" is *a simple lie*.


    Jughead, we know everyone is a LIAR, except you and nospam.
    Relax, we'll take up the slack.

    Besides, you need to keep track of arlen. He's everywhere, you
    know. And it's your job to track that sorry asshole.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Thu Sep 14 17:55:54 2023
    On 2023-09-14 17:47, Hank Rogers wrote:
    Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 14.09.23 um 20:41 schrieb badgolferman:
    My iPhone 14 which is over a year old has 98% battery capacity.

    My iPhone 14 is slightly over 10 month old and still has 100%.


    Good for you, JugHead. The OP didn't have such good luck.

    Feeling better Hank? Did that lower the old BP a notch?

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 14 16:47:42 2023
    Jrg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 14.09.23 um 20:41 schrieb badgolferman:
    My iPhone 14 which is over a year old has 98% battery capacity.

    My iPhone 14 is slightly over 10 month old and still has 100%.


    Good for you, JugHead. The OP didn't have such good luck.

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  • From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Fri Sep 15 01:34:17 2023
    badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
    Wilf <wilf21@is.invalid> wrote:
    My 14 Pro used to last all day and more. Now after a year the battery
    is down to 90% but seems to last many hours less than originally. Is
    it worth having it replaced given that it seems to last far less than
    90% of the original time?

    TIA


    My iPhone 14 which is over a year old has 98% battery capacity. What would make yours get depleted so quickly? Is it possible you have open programs
    in the background constantly doing something? I’ve noticed if I leave a navigation program like Maps open in the background my phone starts to get warm. Good thing I barely use that program.

    My 13 is at 98% after a year of fast charging.

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  • From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to Wilf on Fri Sep 15 01:39:55 2023
    Wilf <wilf21@is.invalid> wrote:
    My 14 Pro used to last all day and more. Now after a year the battery
    is down to 90% but seems to last many hours less than originally. Is
    it worth having it replaced given that it seems to last far less than
    90% of the original time?

    TIA

    I’d hold off until low 80s to extend life of second battery. My 7+ battery got down to low 80s after a couple years and is again down to low 80s after
    a couple more. Tempted to get another replacement to extend its life as a backup device.

    My 7+ was my sole device. Now my 13 works alongside my iPad Pro so I don’t abuse it as much thus my battery health is still 98%.

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  • From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to hugybear@gmx.net on Fri Sep 15 01:42:23 2023
    Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    Am 14.09.23 um 19:28 schrieb Chris in Makati:
    On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 12:20:02 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    In article <udvbi4$4uhu$1@solani.org>, Wilf <wilf21@is.invalid> wrote:

    My 14 Pro used to last all day and more. Now after a year the battery >>>> is down to 90% but seems to last many hours less than originally. Is >>>> it worth having it replaced given that it seems to last far less than
    90% of the original time?

    take it to an apple store. normally, 80% is the guideline for warranty
    replacement, but they can override that if they think it's an issue.

    When my iPhone 7 Plus battery health got down to 85% I made an
    appointment with my local Apple store to have it replaced.

    They returned the phone two hours later in a non-working condition and
    claimed there was nothing they could do as the display was not
    original. The display and everything else was working perfectly when I
    took it in.

    When they break customers property like that and walk away it's not
    hard to see why they made over $80 billion profit in the last quarter.

    You are an incredible Troll!
    Your "story" is *a simple lie*.

    I had no issues with my battery replacement for my 7+ except for the
    longish drive to an Apple store.

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  • From Wilf@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 15 03:25:21 2023
    On 15/09/2023 at 02:39, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
    Wilf <wilf21@is.invalid> wrote:
    My 14 Pro used to last all day and more. Now after a year the battery
    is down to 90% but seems to last many hours less than originally. Is
    it worth having it replaced given that it seems to last far less than
    90% of the original time?

    TIA

    I’d hold off until low 80s to extend life of second battery. My 7+ battery got down to low 80s after a couple years and is again down to low 80s after
    a couple more. Tempted to get another replacement to extend its life as a backup device.

    My 7+ was my sole device. Now my 13 works alongside my iPad Pro so I don’t abuse it as much thus my battery health is still 98%.


    Thanks. That sounds like good advice.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Wilf on Fri Sep 15 02:50:36 2023
    On 2023-09-14, Wilf <wilf21@is.invalid> wrote:
    My 14 Pro used to last all day and more. Now after a year the battery
    is down to 90% but seems to last many hours less than originally. Is
    it worth having it replaced given that it seems to last far less than
    90% of the original time?

    I have one that's down to 87%.

    I'm probably going to get service for it soon. I suspect it's defective.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to nospam on Fri Sep 15 02:49:10 2023
    On 2023-09-14, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    In article <udvk5h$2o29u$1@dont-email.me>, badgolferman
    <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

    My iPhone 14 which is over a year old

    the iphone 14 was released on 9/16/22, therefore it *can't* be 'over a
    year old'. at best, it's just under one year old (by 2 days), and as i recall, you weren't among the very first to buy one, so it's not even
    that.

    has 98% battery capacity. What would make yours get depleted so
    quickly? Is it possible you have open programs in the background
    constantly doing something?

    it's an issue affecting some 14s.

    I suspect there's a battery manufacturing quality issue at play. Some
    folks report battery health in the 80s while others are chugging along
    at 100-90%.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Fri Sep 15 02:44:15 2023
    On 2023-09-14, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
    Wilf <wilf21@is.invalid> wrote:

    My 14 Pro used to last all day and more. Now after a year the
    battery is down to 90% but seems to last many hours less than
    originally. Is it worth having it replaced given that it seems to
    last far less than 90% of the original time?

    My iPhone 14 which is over a year old has 98% battery capacity. What
    would make yours get depleted so quickly?

    Apparently you are still unable (or unwilling) to comprehend that all
    batteries age differently due to fluctuations in the mass production manufacturing process and differences in environmental factors and usage patterns.

    Is it possible you have open programs in the background constantly
    doing something? I’ve noticed if I leave a navigation program like
    Maps open in the background my phone starts to get warm. Good thing I
    barely use that program.

    Navigation apps constantly monitor your location, so yeah.

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  • From Chris in Makati@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 15 09:41:26 2023
    On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 13:50:15 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    In article <u1g6gipefqs6r5maijfa8tnc3ggjm7tos5@4ax.com>, Chris in
    Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:


    When my iPhone 7 Plus battery health got down to 85% I made an
    appointment with my local Apple store to have it replaced.

    They returned the phone two hours later in a non-working condition and
    claimed there was nothing they could do as the display was not
    original. The display and everything else was working perfectly when I
    took it in.

    was the display original?

    Was there something you didn't understand about the words "the display
    was not original" ?

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to Makati on Fri Sep 15 08:56:50 2023
    In article <ni58gittk8glpug1gv78jk7795ukm7c3tn@4ax.com>, Chris in
    Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:

    When my iPhone 7 Plus battery health got down to 85% I made an
    appointment with my local Apple store to have it replaced.

    They returned the phone two hours later in a non-working condition and
    claimed there was nothing they could do as the display was not
    original. The display and everything else was working perfectly when I
    took it in.

    was the display original?

    Was there something you didn't understand about the words "the display
    was not original" ?

    just confirming why the phone no longer works properly.

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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to nospam on Fri Sep 15 13:23:21 2023
    nospam wrote:

    In article <ni58gittk8glpug1gv78jk7795ukm7c3tn@4ax.com>, Chris in
    Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:

    When my iPhone 7 Plus battery health got down to 85% I made an
    appointment with my local Apple store to have it replaced.

    They returned the phone two hours later in a non-working
    condition and >> claimed there was nothing they could do as the
    display was not >> original. The display and everything else was
    working perfectly when I >> took it in.

    was the display original?

    Was there something you didn't understand about the words "the
    display was not original" ?

    just confirming why the phone no longer works properly.


    The phone was working properly when it was taken in for a battery
    replacement. It sound like the Apple technicians disabled the phone
    for having an aftermarket display.

    My son dropeed his car off for service and a tune up the other day.
    They replaced the spark plugs and coil packs. When he picked it up it
    was idling roughly. We called the mechanic back out and they tried to
    diagnose and fix it in the parking lot, but to no avail. We left it
    overnight and they fixed it the next day at no extra charge. Turns out
    there was some debris in the intake manifold which must have gotten in
    there when the air filter was replaced.

    The point of the story is to show the car was working fine when it was
    dropped off, but after servicing it ran roughly. The mechanic took responsibility for it and fixed it at no charge, engendering good will
    toward the customer. This is how you build relationships and trust.

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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to nospam on Fri Sep 15 14:28:48 2023
    nospam wrote:

    In article <xn0o6v3s91bkbeb001@reader443.eternal-september.org>,
    badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

    When my iPhone 7 Plus battery health got down to 85% I made
    an >> >> appointment with my local Apple store to have it replaced.

    They returned the phone two hours later in a non-working
    condition and >> claimed there was nothing they could do as the
    display was not >> original. The display and everything else was
    working perfectly when I >> took it in.

    was the display original?

    Was there something you didn't understand about the words "the
    display was not original" ?

    just confirming why the phone no longer works properly.


    The phone was working properly when it was taken in for a battery
    replacement. It sound like the Apple technicians disabled the
    phone for having an aftermarket display.

    aftermarket parts are not apple's responsibility. they didn't make
    them and cannot guarantee their functionality.

    his claim is with the manufacturer of the aftermarket display and the
    tech who installed it (assuming it wasn't self-installed).

    it's possible that the phone might have stopped working even if the
    battery had not been replaced.

    it's unfortunate that it no longer works, but that's the risk someone
    takes when using such parts.

    it's also suspect that they'd return a phone and say it's broken,
    tough shit.

    there are many unanswered questions. there is more to the story.


    My son dropeed his car off for service and a tune up the other day.
    They replaced the spark plugs and coil packs. When he picked it
    up it was idling roughly. We called the mechanic back out and
    they tried to diagnose and fix it in the parking lot, but to no
    avail. We left it overnight and they fixed it the next day at no
    extra charge. Turns out there was some debris in the intake
    manifold which must have gotten in there when the air filter was
    replaced.

    that's completely different. spark plugs and air filters are generic
    parts (with very rare exception).

    The point of the story is to show the car was working fine when it
    was dropped off, but after servicing it ran roughly. The mechanic
    took responsibility for it and fixed it at no charge, engendering
    good will toward the customer. This is how you build
    relationships and trust.

    its not uncommon for apple to repair devices for no charge even when
    out of warranty and the user's fault.

    that is how you build relationships and trust.

    some years back, a friend of mine bought a new iphone and within a few
    days, he dropped it and the screen shattered. he went to the apple
    store, told them exactly what happened, that it was his fault. and
    asked how much it would be to fix. they gave him a new phone at no
    cost.

    that doesn't always happen, but it's more common than you might think.


    Once again you miss the point, or most likely just avoid it. The phone
    was working fine when it was handed over to the Apple technician for a
    battery replacement. It was handed back in a non-functioning
    condition. Whose responsibility should it be to fix it?

    --
    "The Bible tells us to love our neighbors and also to love our enemies; probably because generally they are the same people." ~ G. K. Chesterton

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Fri Sep 15 10:23:34 2023
    In article <xn0o6v3s91bkbeb001@reader443.eternal-september.org>,
    badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

    When my iPhone 7 Plus battery health got down to 85% I made an
    appointment with my local Apple store to have it replaced.

    They returned the phone two hours later in a non-working
    condition and >> claimed there was nothing they could do as the
    display was not >> original. The display and everything else was
    working perfectly when I >> took it in.

    was the display original?

    Was there something you didn't understand about the words "the
    display was not original" ?

    just confirming why the phone no longer works properly.


    The phone was working properly when it was taken in for a battery replacement. It sound like the Apple technicians disabled the phone
    for having an aftermarket display.

    aftermarket parts are not apple's responsibility. they didn't make them
    and cannot guarantee their functionality.

    his claim is with the manufacturer of the aftermarket display and the
    tech who installed it (assuming it wasn't self-installed).

    it's possible that the phone might have stopped working even if the
    battery had not been replaced.

    it's unfortunate that it no longer works, but that's the risk someone
    takes when using such parts.

    it's also suspect that they'd return a phone and say it's broken, tough
    shit.

    there are many unanswered questions. there is more to the story.


    My son dropeed his car off for service and a tune up the other day.
    They replaced the spark plugs and coil packs. When he picked it up it
    was idling roughly. We called the mechanic back out and they tried to diagnose and fix it in the parking lot, but to no avail. We left it overnight and they fixed it the next day at no extra charge. Turns out
    there was some debris in the intake manifold which must have gotten in
    there when the air filter was replaced.

    that's completely different. spark plugs and air filters are generic
    parts (with very rare exception).

    The point of the story is to show the car was working fine when it was dropped off, but after servicing it ran roughly. The mechanic took responsibility for it and fixed it at no charge, engendering good will
    toward the customer. This is how you build relationships and trust.

    its not uncommon for apple to repair devices for no charge even when
    out of warranty and the user's fault.

    *that* is how you build relationships and trust.

    some years back, a friend of mine bought a new iphone and within a few
    days, he dropped it and the screen shattered. he went to the apple
    store, told them exactly what happened, that it was his fault. and
    asked how much it would be to fix. they gave him a new phone at no
    cost.

    that doesn't always happen, but it's more common than you might think.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From sms@21:1/5 to Chris in Makati on Fri Sep 15 09:35:01 2023
    On 9/15/2023 3:41 AM, Chris in Makati wrote:

    <snip>

    No. The story is 100% true and took place on August 1 2023 at the
    Apple Genius Bar at Kingston-upon-Thames in UK under Repair No:
    R588505668. I have the documentation available to support what I said.

    Why do you even respond to a troll?

    --
    “If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
    really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
    indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
    they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 15 16:37:45 2023
    Am 15.09.23 um 14:56 schrieb nospam:
    In article <ni58gittk8glpug1gv78jk7795ukm7c3tn@4ax.com>, Chris in
    Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:

    When my iPhone 7 Plus battery health got down to 85% I made an
    appointment with my local Apple store to have it replaced.

    They returned the phone two hours later in a non-working condition and >>>> claimed there was nothing they could do as the display was not
    original. The display and everything else was working perfectly when I >>>> took it in.

    was the display original?

    Was there something you didn't understand about the words "the display
    was not original" ?

    just confirming why the phone no longer works properly.

    This is mere speculation.

    --
    Manus manum lavat

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  • From sms@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Fri Sep 15 09:47:05 2023
    On 9/15/2023 8:23 AM, badgolferman wrote:

    <snip>

    The phone was working properly when it was taken in for a battery replacement. It sound like the Apple technicians disabled the phone
    for having an aftermarket display.

    Probably not intentional, they just broke something during the battery replacement and the excuse was a non-original display.

    --
    “If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
    really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
    indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
    they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Fri Sep 15 10:59:01 2023
    In article <xn0o6v5hz1dwhfh002@reader443.eternal-september.org>,
    badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

    When my iPhone 7 Plus battery health got down to 85% I made
    an >> >> appointment with my local Apple store to have it replaced.

    They returned the phone two hours later in a non-working
    condition and >> claimed there was nothing they could do as the
    display was not >> original. The display and everything else was
    working perfectly when I >> took it in.

    was the display original?

    Was there something you didn't understand about the words "the
    display was not original" ?

    just confirming why the phone no longer works properly.


    The phone was working properly when it was taken in for a battery
    replacement. It sound like the Apple technicians disabled the
    phone for having an aftermarket display.

    aftermarket parts are not apple's responsibility. they didn't make
    them and cannot guarantee their functionality.

    his claim is with the manufacturer of the aftermarket display and the
    tech who installed it (assuming it wasn't self-installed).

    it's possible that the phone might have stopped working even if the
    battery had not been replaced.

    it's unfortunate that it no longer works, but that's the risk someone
    takes when using such parts.

    it's also suspect that they'd return a phone and say it's broken,
    tough shit.

    there are many unanswered questions. there is more to the story.






    Once again you miss the point, or most likely just avoid it. The phone
    was working fine when it was handed over to the Apple technician for a battery replacement. It was handed back in a non-functioning
    condition. Whose responsibility should it be to fix it?

    it's *you* who missed the point, that apple can't control aftermarket
    parts or repairs.

    the question is why is it not working, something for which we don't
    have the answer.

    if it's something apple did, then apple should fix it.

    if it's something related to the aftermarket parts, then that's not
    apple's fault and it may not be possible for apple to fix it even if
    they wanted to.

    again, it depends what exactly has failed.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to nospam on Fri Sep 15 15:31:32 2023
    nospam wrote:

    In article <xn0o6v5hz1dwhfh002@reader443.eternal-september.org>,
    badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

    When my iPhone 7 Plus battery health got down to 85% I
    made >>an >> >> appointment with my local Apple store to have it >>replaced. >> >> >>
    They returned the phone two hours later in a non-working
    condition and >> claimed there was nothing they could do as
    the >> >>display was not >> original. The display and everything
    else was >> >>working perfectly when I >> took it in.

    was the display original?

    Was there something you didn't understand about the words
    "the >> >>display was not original" ?

    just confirming why the phone no longer works properly.


    The phone was working properly when it was taken in for a
    battery >> replacement. It sound like the Apple technicians
    disabled the >>phone for having an aftermarket display.

    aftermarket parts are not apple's responsibility. they didn't make
    them and cannot guarantee their functionality.

    his claim is with the manufacturer of the aftermarket display and
    the >tech who installed it (assuming it wasn't self-installed).

    it's possible that the phone might have stopped working even if
    the >battery had not been replaced.

    it's unfortunate that it no longer works, but that's the risk
    someone >takes when using such parts.

    it's also suspect that they'd return a phone and say it's broken,
    tough shit.

    there are many unanswered questions. there is more to the story.






    Once again you miss the point, or most likely just avoid it. The
    phone was working fine when it was handed over to the Apple
    technician for a battery replacement. It was handed back in a >>non-functioning condition. Whose responsibility should it be to
    fix it?

    it's you who missed the point, that apple can't control aftermarket
    parts or repairs.

    the question is why is it not working, something for which we don't
    have the answer.

    if it's something apple did, then apple should fix it.

    if it's something related to the aftermarket parts, then that's not
    apple's fault and it may not be possible for apple to fix it even if
    they wanted to.

    again, it depends what exactly has failed.


    1. The phone had aftermarket parts and worked fine when handed over.
    2. The Apple technician took it and surely inspected it before
    accepting to change the battery.
    3. The Apple technician brought it back in a state of disrepair and
    said it won't work at all now because of aftermarket display.

    Even if it had aftermarket display and/or battery, it worked fine at
    Step 1. What happened between Step 2 and Step 3? Please try to answer
    this logically.

    --
    "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and
    then don't say it." ~ Sam Levenson

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Fri Sep 15 11:57:47 2023
    In article <xn0o6v75b1g568e004@reader443.eternal-september.org>,
    badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:



    Once again you miss the point, or most likely just avoid it. The
    phone was working fine when it was handed over to the Apple
    technician for a battery replacement. It was handed back in a >>non-functioning condition. Whose responsibility should it be to
    fix it?

    it's you who missed the point, that apple can't control aftermarket
    parts or repairs.

    the question is why is it not working, something for which we don't
    have the answer.

    if it's something apple did, then apple should fix it.

    if it's something related to the aftermarket parts, then that's not
    apple's fault and it may not be possible for apple to fix it even if
    they wanted to.

    again, it depends what exactly has failed.


    1. The phone had aftermarket parts and worked fine when handed over.
    2. The Apple technician took it and surely inspected it before
    accepting to change the battery.
    3. The Apple technician brought it back in a state of disrepair and
    said it won't work at all now because of aftermarket display.

    Even if it had aftermarket display and/or battery, it worked fine at
    Step 1. What happened between Step 2 and Step 3? Please try to answer
    this logically.

    more information is needed as to *exactly* what the problem is and why
    it was returned in a non-working condition. this is not complicated.

    as i said, if it's something apple did, then apple should repair it.

    if it's something related to the aftermarket parts or how they were
    installed, then the issue needs to be taken up with the parts maker
    and/or the installer.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to nospam on Fri Sep 15 16:18:21 2023
    nospam wrote:

    1. The phone had aftermarket parts and worked fine when handed
    over. 2. The Apple technician took it and surely inspected it
    before accepting to change the battery.
    3. The Apple technician brought it back in a state of disrepair
    and said it won't work at all now because of aftermarket display.

    Even if it had aftermarket display and/or battery, it worked fine
    at Step 1. What happened between Step 2 and Step 3? Please try
    to answer this logically.

    more information is needed as to exactly what the problem is and why
    it was returned in a non-working condition. this is not complicated.

    The only information provided is this:
    "They returned the phone two hours later in a non-working condition and
    claimed there was nothing they could do as the display was not
    original."

    as i said, if it's something apple did, then apple should repair it.

    What were they doing to it for 2 hours? Why was there no explanation
    provided?

    if it's something related to the aftermarket parts or how they were >installed, then the issue needs to be taken up with the parts maker
    and/or the installer.

    How could the aftermarket parts be a problem if it was working when
    handed over to the Apple technician?

    --
    "Some folks are wise and some are otherwise." ~ Tobias George Smolett

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Fri Sep 15 12:23:14 2023
    In article <xn0o6v8eh1htd5y005@reader443.eternal-september.org>,
    badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

    1. The phone had aftermarket parts and worked fine when handed
    over. 2. The Apple technician took it and surely inspected it
    before accepting to change the battery.
    3. The Apple technician brought it back in a state of disrepair
    and said it won't work at all now because of aftermarket display.

    Even if it had aftermarket display and/or battery, it worked fine
    at Step 1. What happened between Step 2 and Step 3? Please try
    to answer this logically.

    more information is needed as to exactly what the problem is and why
    it was returned in a non-working condition. this is not complicated.

    The only information provided is this:
    "They returned the phone two hours later in a non-working condition and claimed there was nothing they could do as the display was not
    original."

    correct.

    what is unknown is *why* it doesn't work, which is a very important
    detail.

    as i said, if it's something apple did, then apple should repair it.

    What were they doing to it for 2 hours? Why was there no explanation provided?

    questions that need answers.

    a battery replacement doesn't take two hours, so it's likely they were
    trying to get it to work.

    if it's something related to the aftermarket parts or how they were >installed, then the issue needs to be taken up with the parts maker
    and/or the installer.

    How could the aftermarket parts be a problem if it was working when
    handed over to the Apple technician?

    all parts can fail.

    it's possible that the aftermarket parts would have failed without the
    battery replacement.

    again, without knowing what exactly is wrong, it's impossible to know
    why it was returned in a non-working state.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 16 08:29:20 2023
    Am 15.09.23 um 10:41 schrieb Chris in Makati:
    On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 22:23:32 +0200, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net>
    wrote:

    When my iPhone 7 Plus battery health got down to 85% I made an
    appointment with my local Apple store to have it replaced.

    They returned the phone two hours later in a non-working condition and
    claimed there was nothing they could do as the display was not
    original. The display and everything else was working perfectly when I
    took it in.

    When they break customers property like that and walk away it's not
    hard to see why they made over $80 billion profit in the last quarter.

    You are an incredible Troll!
    Your "story" is *a simple lie*

    No. The story is 100% true and took place on August 1 2023 at the
    Apple Genius Bar at Kingston-upon-Thames in UK under Repair No:
    R588505668. I have the documentation available to support what I said.

    You are liar anyway: Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com>
    This domain does not belong to you.
    Credibility *Zero*.

    --
    Alea iacta est

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Chris in Makati@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 16 10:50:45 2023
    On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 11:57:47 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    In article <xn0o6v75b1g568e004@reader443.eternal-september.org>,
    badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:



    Once again you miss the point, or most likely just avoid it. The
    phone was working fine when it was handed over to the Apple
    technician for a battery replacement. It was handed back in a
    non-functioning condition. Whose responsibility should it be to
    fix it?

    it's you who missed the point, that apple can't control aftermarket
    parts or repairs.

    the question is why is it not working, something for which we don't
    have the answer.

    if it's something apple did, then apple should fix it.

    if it's something related to the aftermarket parts, then that's not
    apple's fault and it may not be possible for apple to fix it even if
    they wanted to.

    again, it depends what exactly has failed.


    1. The phone had aftermarket parts and worked fine when handed over.
    2. The Apple technician took it and surely inspected it before
    accepting to change the battery.
    3. The Apple technician brought it back in a state of disrepair and
    said it won't work at all now because of aftermarket display.

    Even if it had aftermarket display and/or battery, it worked fine at
    Step 1. What happened between Step 2 and Step 3? Please try to answer
    this logically.

    more information is needed as to *exactly* what the problem is and why
    it was returned in a non-working condition. this is not complicated.

    as i said, if it's something apple did, then apple should repair it.

    if it's something related to the aftermarket parts or how they were >installed, then the issue needs to be taken up with the parts maker
    and/or the installer.

    OK. Let me spell out the entire story in more detail as accurately as
    I can.

    About three years ago the display in my iPhone 7 Plus got a small
    crack in it and I took it to a non-Apple repair shop to be replaced.
    They replaced the display and everything was working fine again.

    Fast forward three years to last month and I realized that my iPhone
    was needing to be charged more frequently and often wasn't even
    lasting me a full day. The battery status said it was at 85%
    performance. So I made an appointment with the Apple Genius Bar at
    Kingston to have the battery replaced.

    I took the phone in and they told me to come back after two hours.
    When I returned they handed the phone back to me and said something
    had happened and they couldn't complete the work. They said the
    display was not standard and claimed that they couldn't accept any responsibility for the phone because of that.

    I refused to accept that as there was nothing wrong with the phone
    when I took it in apart from needing a new battery. They eventually
    brought in a manager who agreed that they would order a genuine Apple
    display and replace it free of charge. They told me it would take a
    few days to obtain the part and would let me know when it was
    available. At that point I was amazed at what Apple were offering me.
    It seemed more than reasonable and I was looking forward to getting
    the phone fixed.

    So a few days later Apple called and we made an appointment. Once
    again I took the phone in and they told me to come back after two
    hours. When I want back the phone was still completely non-functional
    and they told me there was nothing more they could do.

    I went to a non-Apple repair shop and they guy there checked the phone
    out. He tried putting a new display in and it still didn't work. He
    then tried my display in another phone and it worked fine. So the
    conclusion was that there never was and still isn't anything wrong
    with the display in my phone. Something else must have happened while
    the phone was in the possession of Apple that caused it to stop
    working.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 16 12:53:08 2023
    Am 16.09.23 um 11:50 schrieb Chris in Makati:
    You know very well that few people use their real
    email address on newsgroups because spammers harvest them.

    You have absolutely no clue how Usenet works.
    Nobody cares about addresses in the Usenet.

    --
    Alea iacta est

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 16 12:49:07 2023
    Am 16.09.23 um 11:50 schrieb Chris in Makati:
    On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 08:29:20 +0200, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net>
    You are liar anyway: Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com>
    This domain does not belong to you.
    Credibility *Zero*.

    Stop trolling Jörg. You know very well that few people use their real
    email address on newsgroups because spammers harvest them. Now why
    don't you go back to milking cows and making chocolate rabbits, which
    is what you people do best.

    You are not only lying Troll you are also a primitive Troll.

    --
    Alea iacta est

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Chris in Makati@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 16 12:24:33 2023
    On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 12:49:07 +0200, Jrg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net>
    wrote:

    Am 16.09.23 um 11:50 schrieb Chris in Makati:
    On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 08:29:20 +0200, Jrg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net>
    You are liar anyway: Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com>
    This domain does not belong to you.
    Credibility *Zero*.

    Stop trolling Jrg. You know very well that few people use their real
    email address on newsgroups because spammers harvest them. Now why
    don't you go back to milking cows and making chocolate rabbits, which
    is what you people do best.

    You are not only lying Troll you are also a primitive Troll.

    You have absolutely no idea what happened in the situation I described
    so why don't you just fuck off if you have nothing useful to
    contribute. Moo, Moo. Maybe you understand cow language better.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to Makati on Sat Sep 16 09:07:42 2023
    In article <qdsagip2cgboam68c8e1qh24bk8khpq8pi@4ax.com>, Chris in
    Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:

    OK. Let me spell out the entire story in more detail as accurately as
    I can.

    thanks.

    About three years ago the display in my iPhone 7 Plus got a small
    crack in it and I took it to a non-Apple repair shop to be replaced.
    They replaced the display and everything was working fine again.

    Fast forward three years to last month and I realized that my iPhone
    was needing to be charged more frequently and often wasn't even
    lasting me a full day. The battery status said it was at 85%
    performance. So I made an appointment with the Apple Genius Bar at
    Kingston to have the battery replaced.

    I took the phone in and they told me to come back after two hours.
    When I returned they handed the phone back to me and said something
    had happened and they couldn't complete the work. They said the
    display was not standard and claimed that they couldn't accept any responsibility for the phone because of that.

    that's correct. it's not their display and the repair had been done by
    someone not authorized to do repairs. they have no control over either
    one. that's not unique to apple either.

    I refused to accept that as there was nothing wrong with the phone
    when I took it in apart from needing a new battery. They eventually
    brought in a manager who agreed that they would order a genuine Apple
    display and replace it free of charge. They told me it would take a
    few days to obtain the part and would let me know when it was
    available. At that point I was amazed at what Apple were offering me.
    It seemed more than reasonable and I was looking forward to getting
    the phone fixed.

    that's impressive and yet another example of the top tier service apple
    offers.

    So a few days later Apple called and we made an appointment. Once
    again I took the phone in and they told me to come back after two
    hours. When I want back the phone was still completely non-functional
    and they told me there was nothing more they could do.

    did they tell you the reason for it still being non-functional?

    I went to a non-Apple repair shop and they guy there checked the phone
    out. He tried putting a new display in and it still didn't work. He
    then tried my display in another phone and it worked fine. So the
    conclusion was that there never was and still isn't anything wrong
    with the display in my phone. Something else must have happened while
    the phone was in the possession of Apple that caused it to stop
    working.

    something obviously did happen.

    have you followed up with apple to find out what that was?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Chris in Makati@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 16 17:25:20 2023
    On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 09:07:42 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    So a few days later Apple called and we made an appointment. Once
    again I took the phone in and they told me to come back after two
    hours. When I want back the phone was still completely non-functional
    and they told me there was nothing more they could do.

    did they tell you the reason for it still being non-functional?

    They said they didn't know. They just said something else was not
    right with the phone.

    I went to a non-Apple repair shop and they guy there checked the phone
    out. He tried putting a new display in and it still didn't work. He
    then tried my display in another phone and it worked fine. So the
    conclusion was that there never was and still isn't anything wrong
    with the display in my phone. Something else must have happened while
    the phone was in the possession of Apple that caused it to stop
    working.

    something obviously did happen.

    have you followed up with apple to find out what that was?

    They weren't able to give any further information about exactly what
    was wrong. I suspect they didn't know and hadn't looked into it any
    further. They just used the fact that the display had been replaced by
    a non-Apple repairer to deny any further responsibility.

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Sun Sep 17 23:20:31 2023
    On 2023-09-15, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

    1. The phone had aftermarket parts and worked fine when handed over.
    2. The Apple technician took it and surely inspected it before
    accepting to change the battery.
    3. The Apple technician brought it back in a state of disrepair and
    said it won't work at all now because of aftermarket display.

    Even if it had aftermarket display and/or battery, it worked fine at
    Step 1. What happened between Step 2 and Step 3? Please try to answer
    this logically.


    Just to clarify, this was a Apple technician in a Apple store, and not a
    "Apple technician" working for a non-Apple store, right?

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  • From Chris in Makati@21:1/5 to leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net on Mon Sep 18 13:27:22 2023
    On 17 Sep 2023 23:20:31 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
    <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 2023-09-15, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

    1. The phone had aftermarket parts and worked fine when handed over.
    2. The Apple technician took it and surely inspected it before
    accepting to change the battery.
    3. The Apple technician brought it back in a state of disrepair and
    said it won't work at all now because of aftermarket display.

    Even if it had aftermarket display and/or battery, it worked fine at
    Step 1. What happened between Step 2 and Step 3? Please try to answer
    this logically.


    Just to clarify, this was a Apple technician in a Apple store, and not a >"Apple technician" working for a non-Apple store, right?

    Correct.

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  • From Guru Computers@21:1/5 to Wilf on Wed Sep 20 23:13:14 2023
    On Thursday, 14 September 2023 at 21:45:02 UTC+5:30, Wilf wrote:
    My 14 Pro used to last all day and more. Now after a year the battery
    is down to 90% but seems to last many hours less than originally. Is
    it worth having it replaced given that it seems to last far less than
    90% of the original time?

    TIA

    --
    Wilf

    Change it when batter drops to 75%
    https://www.gurucomputers.ca/

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  • From Guru Computers@21:1/5 to Wilf on Wed Sep 20 23:08:38 2023
    On Thursday, 14 September 2023 at 21:45:02 UTC+5:30, Wilf wrote:
    My 14 Pro used to last all day and more. Now after a year the battery
    is down to 90% but seems to last many hours less than originally. Is
    it worth having it replaced given that it seems to last far less than
    90% of the original time?

    TIA

    --
    Wilf

    Nothing will happen it just a battery drop..
    https://www.gurucomputers.ca/

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 21 08:25:23 2023
    Am 21.09.23 um 08:08 schrieb Guru Computers:
    On Thursday, 14 September 2023 at 21:45:02 UTC+5:30, Wilf wrote:
    My 14 Pro used to last all day and more. Now after a year the battery
    is down to 90% but seems to last many hours less than originally. Is
    it worth having it replaced given that it seems to last far less than
    90% of the original time?

    TIA

    --
    Wilf

    Nothing will happen it just a battery drop..
    https://www.gurucomputers.ca/

    *ROTFLSTC*
    Learn to use Usenet correctly.
    Does not work with Google-crap.

    --
    Alea iacta est

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