• I'm sure the trolls will tell us that this kind of customization is bad

    From Alan@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 22 13:46:36 2023
    ...because it's Apple:

    'Since publishing my review, I’ve tweaked my Action button shortcut to
    work this way:

    — If the device orientation is face down or portrait upside-down, toggle Silent mode. (And when turning Silent mode from off to on, vibrate the
    phone.)
    — Otherwise launch Camera.

    Screenshot of the main shortcut, and the helper that toggles Silent mode
    with vibration for turning it on:'

    <https://www.threads.net/@gruber/post/CxgAPvMuhOa>

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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Sep 22 21:16:02 2023
    Alan wrote:

    ...because it's Apple:

    'Since publishing my review, I’ve tweaked my Action button shortcut
    to work this way:

    — If the device orientation is face down or portrait upside-down,
    toggle Silent mode. (And when turning Silent mode from off to on,
    vibrate the phone.) — Otherwise launch Camera.

    Screenshot of the main shortcut, and the helper that toggles Silent
    mode with vibration for turning it on:'

    <https://www.threads.net/@gruber/post/CxgAPvMuhOa>


    Customization is always good, but not at the expense of proven
    functionality.

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    very same reason.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Sep 22 17:24:21 2023
    On 2023-09-22 16:46, Alan wrote:
    ...because it's Apple:

    'Since publishing my review, I’ve tweaked my Action button shortcut to
    work this way:

    — If the device orientation is face down or portrait upside-down, toggle Silent mode. (And when turning Silent mode from off to on, vibrate the phone.)
     — Otherwise launch Camera.

    Interesting. I'm sure people will come up with lot of interesting
    shortcuts to assign to the button.



    Screenshot of the main shortcut, and the helper that toggles Silent mode
    with vibration for turning it on:'

    <https://www.threads.net/@gruber/post/CxgAPvMuhOa>


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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Sep 22 21:33:29 2023
    On 2023-09-22, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    ...because it's Apple:

    'Since publishing my review, I’ve tweaked my Action button shortcut to
    work this way:

    — If the device orientation is face down or portrait upside-down, toggle Silent mode. (And when turning Silent mode from off to on, vibrate the phone.)
    — Otherwise launch Camera.

    Screenshot of the main shortcut, and the helper that toggles Silent mode
    with vibration for turning it on:'

    <https://www.threads.net/@gruber/post/CxgAPvMuhOa>

    Nice. Now I want a 15, dammit. 🤣

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Fri Sep 22 15:41:49 2023
    On 2023-09-22 14:16, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    ...because it's Apple:

    'Since publishing my review, I’ve tweaked my Action button shortcut
    to work this way:

    — If the device orientation is face down or portrait upside-down,
    toggle Silent mode. (And when turning Silent mode from off to on,
    vibrate the phone.) — Otherwise launch Camera.

    Screenshot of the main shortcut, and the helper that toggles Silent
    mode with vibration for turning it on:'

    <https://www.threads.net/@gruber/post/CxgAPvMuhOa>


    Customization is always good, but not at the expense of proven
    functionality.


    Except it isn't at the expense of proven functionality.

    That's the point.

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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Sep 22 23:17:31 2023
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-22 14:16, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    ...because it's Apple:

    'Since publishing my review, I’ve tweaked my Action button shortcut
    to work this way:

    — If the device orientation is face down or portrait upside-down,
    toggle Silent mode. (And when turning Silent mode from off to on,
    vibrate the phone.) — Otherwise launch Camera.

    Screenshot of the main shortcut, and the helper that toggles Silent
    mode with vibration for turning it on:'

    <https://www.threads.net/@gruber/post/CxgAPvMuhOa>


    Customization is always good, but not at the expense of proven
    functionality.


    Except it isn't at the expense of proven functionality.

    That's the point.


    It is. The visual/tactile indicator of the rocker switch and the orange bar
    is lost now. Now if you’re in a meeting and can’t remember whether you silenced your phone, you can’t just feel the switch position with your
    finger if it’s in your pocket and you can’t just look at the edge of the phone if it’s sitting on the table.

    I know you don’t care about any of that because you didn’t use it that way, but many people did. It’s all the rest of us who will have to adapt to a
    new method when the old way worked perfectly fine.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Fri Sep 22 17:48:58 2023
    On 2023-09-22 16:17, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-22 14:16, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    ...because it's Apple:

    'Since publishing my review, I’ve tweaked my Action button
    shortcut to work this way:

    — If the device orientation is face down or portrait
    upside-down, toggle Silent mode. (And when turning Silent mode
    from off to on, vibrate the phone.) — Otherwise launch
    Camera.

    Screenshot of the main shortcut, and the helper that toggles
    Silent mode with vibration for turning it on:'

    <https://www.threads.net/@gruber/post/CxgAPvMuhOa>


    Customization is always good, but not at the expense of proven
    functionality.


    Except it isn't at the expense of proven functionality.

    That's the point.


    It is. The visual/tactile indicator of the rocker switch and the
    orange bar
    is lost now. Now if you’re in a meeting and can’t remember whether
    you silenced your phone, you can’t just feel the switch position with
    your finger if it’s in your pocket and you can’t just look at the
    edge of the phone if it’s sitting on the table.

    Nope.

    The shortcut makes it so that the button buzzes when silent is turned
    ON. So it's just as tactile. Have the phone in your pocket and want to
    check its silent status? Press the button. If it buzzes, it's now
    silent. If it doesn't, press it again.

    Done.

    As for the silliness about "sitting on the table", my iPhone 8 is right
    beside me—not more than 30" from my eyes, and I cannot see the status of
    the switch from here; regardless of whether I put it face up or face down.


    I know you don’t care about any of that because you didn’t use it
    that way, > but many people did. It’s all the rest of us who will have to adapt
    to a new method when the old way worked perfectly fine.
    And in return, get lots of ways you can use it IN ADDITION to that
    single function.

    Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen is quite limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one thing is wasteful of
    that scare resource.

    Furthermore, designing as sliding switch to be waterproof is pretty
    obviously more difficult than doing the same with a push button.

    Now. Have you got any more whining about things that are obviously
    bullshit you'd like to do?

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Sep 23 06:04:05 2023
    On 2023-09-23, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-22 16:17, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    Except it isn't at the expense of proven functionality.

    That's the point.

    It is. The visual/tactile indicator of the rocker switch and the
    orange bar is lost now. Now if you’re in a meeting and can’t remember
    whether you silenced your phone, you can’t just feel the switch
    position with your finger if it’s in your pocket and you can’t just
    look at the edge of the phone if it’s sitting on the table.

    Nope.

    The shortcut makes it so that the button buzzes when silent is turned
    ON. So it's just as tactile. Have the phone in your pocket and want to
    check its silent status? Press the button. If it buzzes, it's now
    silent. If it doesn't, press it again.

    Done.

    As for the silliness about "sitting on the table", my iPhone 8 is
    right beside me—not more than 30" from my eyes, and I cannot see the
    status of the switch from here; regardless of whether I put it face up
    or face down.

    I know you don’t care about any of that because you didn’t use it
    that way, > but many people did. It’s all the rest of us who will
    have to adapt to a new method when the old way worked perfectly fine.

    And in return, get lots of ways you can use it IN ADDITION to that
    single function.

    Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen is
    quite limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one thing is
    wasteful of that scare resource.

    Furthermore, designing as sliding switch to be waterproof is pretty
    obviously more difficult than doing the same with a push button.

    Now. Have you got any more whining about things that are obviously
    bullshit you'd like to do?

    Count on it. His posting history here shows whining about bullshit in
    weak trolls is what he lives for.

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    JR

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 23 09:34:35 2023
    Am 23.09.23 um 08:04 schrieb Jolly Roger:
    On 2023-09-23, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    Now. Have you got any more whining about things that are obviously
    bullshit you'd like to do?

    Count on it. His posting history here shows whining about bullshit in
    weak trolls is what he lives for.

    We all know that "badgolferman" is a notorious Troll and this week he
    proved again he is not capable of coping with changes and progress.
    Why are you both feeding this bored Troll?

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to hugybear@gmx.net on Sat Sep 23 07:46:12 2023
    Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    Am 23.09.23 um 08:04 schrieb Jolly Roger:
    On 2023-09-23, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    Now. Have you got any more whining about things that are obviously
    bullshit you'd like to do?

    Count on it. His posting history here shows whining about bullshit in
    weak trolls is what he lives for.

    We all know that "badgolferman" is a notorious Troll and this week he
    proved again he is not capable of coping with changes and progress.
    Why are you both feeding this bored Troll?


    Do you think he’s Arlen?

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Sep 23 10:16:23 2023
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-22 16:17, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-22 14:16, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    ...because it's Apple:

    'Since publishing my review, I’ve tweaked my Action button
    shortcut to work this way:

    — If the device orientation is face down or portrait
    upside-down, toggle Silent mode. (And when turning Silent mode
    from off to on, vibrate the phone.) — Otherwise launch
    Camera.

    Screenshot of the main shortcut, and the helper that toggles
    Silent mode with vibration for turning it on:'

    <https://www.threads.net/@gruber/post/CxgAPvMuhOa>


    Customization is always good, but not at the expense of proven
    functionality.


    Except it isn't at the expense of proven functionality.

    That's the point.


    It is. The visual/tactile indicator of the rocker switch and the
    orange bar
    is lost now. Now if you’re in a meeting and can’t remember whether
    you silenced your phone, you can’t just feel the switch position with
    your finger if it’s in your pocket and you can’t just look at the
    edge of the phone if it’s sitting on the table.

    Nope.

    The shortcut makes it so that the button buzzes when silent is turned
    ON. So it's just as tactile. Have the phone in your pocket and want to
    check its silent status? Press the button. If it buzzes, it's now
    silent. If it doesn't, press it again.

    Done.

    As for the silliness about "sitting on the table", my iPhone 8 is right beside me—not more than 30" from my eyes, and I cannot see the status of the switch from here; regardless of whether I put it face up or face down.


    I know you don’t care about any of that because you didn’t use it
    that way, > but many people did. It’s all the rest of us who will have to adapt
    to a new method when the old way worked perfectly fine.
    And in return, get lots of ways you can use it IN ADDITION to that
    single function.

    Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen is quite limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one thing is wasteful of
    that scare resource.

    It depends if it's a valuable use of that resource. For many, myself
    included, it is.

    Furthermore, designing as sliding switch to be waterproof is pretty
    obviously more difficult than doing the same with a push button.

    Genuinely, how important is it for a phone to be waterproof to 6m for 30m? Resistance to a good soaking in the rain or an accidental drop in the bath/sink/toilet is plenty.

    Now. Have you got any more whining about things that are obviously
    bullshit you'd like to do?

    Funny how some people think their experience is superior to anyone else's.
    It must be weird to have only one perspective.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sat Sep 23 09:48:40 2023
    On 2023-09-23 03:46, Hank Rogers wrote:
    Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    Am 23.09.23 um 08:04 schrieb Jolly Roger:
    On 2023-09-23, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    Now. Have you got any more whining about things that are obviously
    bullshit you'd like to do?

    Count on it. His posting history here shows whining about bullshit in
    weak trolls is what he lives for.

    We all know that "badgolferman" is a notorious Troll and this week he
    proved again he is not capable of coping with changes and progress.
    Why are you both feeding this bored Troll?


    Do you think he’s Arlen?

    Remember straight man / funny man comedy teams?

    That is this pair in the troll genre.

    --
    “Markets can remain irrational longer than your can remain solvent.”
    - John Maynard Keynes.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Chris on Sat Sep 23 11:07:36 2023
    On 2023-09-23 03:16, Chris wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-22 16:17, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-22 14:16, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    ...because it's Apple:

    'Since publishing my review, I’ve tweaked my Action button
    shortcut to work this way:

    — If the device orientation is face down or portrait
    upside-down, toggle Silent mode. (And when turning Silent mode
    from off to on, vibrate the phone.) — Otherwise launch
    Camera.

    Screenshot of the main shortcut, and the helper that toggles
    Silent mode with vibration for turning it on:'

    <https://www.threads.net/@gruber/post/CxgAPvMuhOa>


    Customization is always good, but not at the expense of proven
    functionality.


    Except it isn't at the expense of proven functionality.

    That's the point.


    It is. The visual/tactile indicator of the rocker switch and the
    orange bar
    is lost now. Now if you’re in a meeting and can’t remember whether
    you silenced your phone, you can’t just feel the switch position with
    your finger if it’s in your pocket and you can’t just look at the
    edge of the phone if it’s sitting on the table.

    Nope.

    The shortcut makes it so that the button buzzes when silent is turned
    ON. So it's just as tactile. Have the phone in your pocket and want to
    check its silent status? Press the button. If it buzzes, it's now
    silent. If it doesn't, press it again.

    Done.

    As for the silliness about "sitting on the table", my iPhone 8 is right
    beside me—not more than 30" from my eyes, and I cannot see the status of >> the switch from here; regardless of whether I put it face up or face down. >>

    I know you don’t care about any of that because you didn’t use it
    that way, > but many people did. It’s all the rest of us who will have to adapt
    to a new method when the old way worked perfectly fine.
    And in return, get lots of ways you can use it IN ADDITION to that
    single function.

    Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen is quite
    limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one thing is wasteful of
    that scare resource.

    It depends if it's a valuable use of that resource. For many, myself included, it is.

    But you haven't lost that use.

    It is very slightly changed, but you've still got it.


    Furthermore, designing as sliding switch to be waterproof is pretty
    obviously more difficult than doing the same with a push button.

    Genuinely, how important is it for a phone to be waterproof to 6m for 30m? Resistance to a good soaking in the rain or an accidental drop in the bath/sink/toilet is plenty.

    Now. Have you got any more whining about things that are obviously
    bullshit you'd like to do?

    Funny how some people think their experience is superior to anyone else's.
    It must be weird to have only one perspective.

    How is your stance the least bit different.

    You're insisting you've lost something that you empirically HAVE NOT LOST.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to hugybear@gmx.net on Sat Sep 23 18:12:49 2023
    On 2023-09-23, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    Am 23.09.23 um 08:04 schrieb Jolly Roger:
    On 2023-09-23, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    Now. Have you got any more whining about things that are obviously
    bullshit you'd like to do?

    Count on it. His posting history here shows whining about bullshit in
    weak trolls is what he lives for.

    We all know that "badgolferman" is a notorious Troll and this week he
    proved again he is not capable of coping with changes and progress.
    Why are you both feeding this bored Troll?

    Why are you feeding it now? Ironic.

    --
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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sat Sep 23 18:13:39 2023
    On 2023-09-23, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 03:46, Hank Rogers wrote:
    Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    Am 23.09.23 um 08:04 schrieb Jolly Roger:
    On 2023-09-23, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    Now. Have you got any more whining about things that are obviously
    bullshit you'd like to do?

    Count on it. His posting history here shows whining about bullshit
    in weak trolls is what he lives for.

    We all know that "badgolferman" is a notorious Troll and this week
    he proved again he is not capable of coping with changes and
    progress. Why are you both feeding this bored Troll?

    Do you think he’s Arlen?

    Remember straight man / funny man comedy teams?

    That is this pair in the troll genre.

    They are part of the same team. They always back each other up.

    --
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  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Sep 23 18:50:53 2023
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    They are part of the same team.

    There are only three adults on this newsgroup - you've got two of them.

    HINT: All the child-like iKooks are uneducated, ignorant and have a low IQ (i.e., Alan Browne, Alan Baker, Joerg Lorenz, Jolly Roger, nospam, etc.)

    Hence the only other adult is also
    a. Well educated
    b. Not ignorant
    c. At least a normal IQ

    Who is the third adult on this newsgroup, Jolly Roger?
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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Sep 23 22:29:50 2023
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 03:16, Chris wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-22 16:17, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-22 14:16, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    ...because it's Apple:

    'Since publishing my review, I’ve tweaked my Action button
    shortcut to work this way:

    — If the device orientation is face down or portrait
    upside-down, toggle Silent mode. (And when turning Silent mode
    from off to on, vibrate the phone.) — Otherwise launch
    Camera.

    Screenshot of the main shortcut, and the helper that toggles
    Silent mode with vibration for turning it on:'

    <https://www.threads.net/@gruber/post/CxgAPvMuhOa>


    Customization is always good, but not at the expense of proven
    functionality.


    Except it isn't at the expense of proven functionality.

    That's the point.


    It is. The visual/tactile indicator of the rocker switch and the
    orange bar
    is lost now. Now if you’re in a meeting and can’t remember whether >>>> you silenced your phone, you can’t just feel the switch position with >>>> your finger if it’s in your pocket and you can’t just look at the
    edge of the phone if it’s sitting on the table.

    Nope.

    The shortcut makes it so that the button buzzes when silent is turned
    ON. So it's just as tactile. Have the phone in your pocket and want to
    check its silent status? Press the button. If it buzzes, it's now
    silent. If it doesn't, press it again.

    Done.

    As for the silliness about "sitting on the table", my iPhone 8 is right
    beside me—not more than 30" from my eyes, and I cannot see the status of >>> the switch from here; regardless of whether I put it face up or face down. >>>

    I know you don’t care about any of that because you didn’t use it
    that way, > but many people did. It’s all the rest of us who will have to adapt
    to a new method when the old way worked perfectly fine.
    And in return, get lots of ways you can use it IN ADDITION to that
    single function.

    Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen is quite
    limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one thing is wasteful of
    that scare resource.

    It depends if it's a valuable use of that resource. For many, myself
    included, it is.

    But you haven't lost that use.

    It is very slightly changed, but you've still got it.

    It's fundamentally changed. Hardware removed in favour of software.


    Furthermore, designing as sliding switch to be waterproof is pretty
    obviously more difficult than doing the same with a push button.

    Genuinely, how important is it for a phone to be waterproof to 6m for 30m? >> Resistance to a good soaking in the rain or an accidental drop in the
    bath/sink/toilet is plenty.

    Now. Have you got any more whining about things that are obviously
    bullshit you'd like to do?

    Funny how some people think their experience is superior to anyone else's. >> It must be weird to have only one perspective.

    How is your stance the least bit different.

    I'm not dismissing your view as whining or bullshit.

    You're insisting you've lost something that you empirically HAVE NOT LOST.

    I regularly look at my phone to see if it's on mute or not. I won't be able
    to do that on the 15. So yes the functionality has EXPLICITLY GONE. I don't want a multifunction button. It'll work just as well as double/back tap
    i.e. not very.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Wally J on Sat Sep 23 17:12:21 2023
    On 2023-09-23 15:50, Wally J wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    They are part of the same team.

    There are only three adults on this newsgroup - you've got two of them.

    HINT: All the child-like iKooks are uneducated, ignorant and have a low IQ (i.e., Alan Browne, Alan Baker, Joerg Lorenz, Jolly Roger, nospam, etc.)

    Hence the only other adult is also
    a. Well educated

    So me.

    b. Not ignorant

    Also me.

    c. At least a normal IQ
    And me!

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Chris on Sat Sep 23 17:11:48 2023
    On 2023-09-23 15:29, Chris wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 03:16, Chris wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-22 16:17, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-22 14:16, badgolferman wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    ...because it's Apple:

    'Since publishing my review, I’ve tweaked my Action button
    shortcut to work this way:

    — If the device orientation is face down or portrait
    upside-down, toggle Silent mode. (And when turning Silent mode >>>>>>>> from off to on, vibrate the phone.) — Otherwise launch
    Camera.

    Screenshot of the main shortcut, and the helper that toggles
    Silent mode with vibration for turning it on:'

    <https://www.threads.net/@gruber/post/CxgAPvMuhOa>


    Customization is always good, but not at the expense of proven
    functionality.


    Except it isn't at the expense of proven functionality.

    That's the point.


    It is. The visual/tactile indicator of the rocker switch and the
    orange bar
    is lost now. Now if you’re in a meeting and can’t remember whether >>>>> you silenced your phone, you can’t just feel the switch position with >>>>> your finger if it’s in your pocket and you can’t just look at the >>>>> edge of the phone if it’s sitting on the table.

    Nope.

    The shortcut makes it so that the button buzzes when silent is turned
    ON. So it's just as tactile. Have the phone in your pocket and want to >>>> check its silent status? Press the button. If it buzzes, it's now
    silent. If it doesn't, press it again.

    Done.

    As for the silliness about "sitting on the table", my iPhone 8 is right >>>> beside me—not more than 30" from my eyes, and I cannot see the status of >>>> the switch from here; regardless of whether I put it face up or face down. >>>>

    I know you don’t care about any of that because you didn’t use it >>>>> that way, > but many people did. It’s all the rest of us who will have to adapt
    to a new method when the old way worked perfectly fine.
    And in return, get lots of ways you can use it IN ADDITION to that
    single function.

    Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen is quite >>>> limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one thing is wasteful of >>>> that scare resource.

    It depends if it's a valuable use of that resource. For many, myself
    included, it is.

    But you haven't lost that use.

    It is very slightly changed, but you've still got it.

    It's fundamentally changed. Hardware removed in favour of software.


    Furthermore, designing as sliding switch to be waterproof is pretty
    obviously more difficult than doing the same with a push button.

    Genuinely, how important is it for a phone to be waterproof to 6m for 30m? >>> Resistance to a good soaking in the rain or an accidental drop in the
    bath/sink/toilet is plenty.

    Now. Have you got any more whining about things that are obviously
    bullshit you'd like to do?

    Funny how some people think their experience is superior to anyone else's. >>> It must be weird to have only one perspective.

    How is your stance the least bit different.

    I'm not dismissing your view as whining or bullshit.

    But you're still dismissing it...

    ...which is the essence of thinking your experience is superior.


    You're insisting you've lost something that you empirically HAVE NOT LOST.

    I regularly look at my phone to see if it's on mute or not. I won't be able to do that on the 15. So yes the functionality has EXPLICITLY GONE. I don't want a multifunction button. It'll work just as well as double/back tap
    i.e. not very.

    Yes, you will. You just won't be able to look at the status ON THE SWITCH.

    You're not very good at this whole "thinking it through" thing...

    ...are you?

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Wally J on Sun Sep 24 01:01:41 2023
    On 2023-09-23, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    They are part of the same team.

    child-like
    iKooks
    uneducated
    ignorant
    low IQ

    Like a child, Arlen just keeps repeating the same, tried insults
    thinking they are magically more effective when repeated. What a bore.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Chris on Sun Sep 24 00:59:39 2023
    On 2023-09-23, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 03:16, Chris wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen is
    quite limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one thing is
    wasteful of that scare resource.

    It depends if it's a valuable use of that resource. For many, myself
    included, it is.

    But you haven't lost that use.

    It is very slightly changed, but you've still got it.

    It's fundamentally changed. Hardware removed in favour of software.

    A limited single-purpose switch was replaced by a multi-purpose switch
    that is both *much* more flexible and *much* more capable button.

    --
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    JR

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Sep 23 18:03:18 2023
    On 2023-09-23 17:59, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-09-23, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 03:16, Chris wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen is
    quite limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one thing is
    wasteful of that scare resource.

    It depends if it's a valuable use of that resource. For many, myself
    included, it is.

    But you haven't lost that use.

    It is very slightly changed, but you've still got it.

    It's fundamentally changed. Hardware removed in favour of software.

    A limited single-purpose switch was replaced by a multi-purpose switch
    that is both *much* more flexible and *much* more capable button.


    But Chris might have to exercise his brain for 5 minutes to figure out
    how to use this new switch!!!!!


    Weahhhhhh! It's not fair!

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  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Sep 23 21:54:58 2023
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    thinking they are magically more effective when repeated

    Actually, every post from you iKooks proves me correct, Jolly Roger.

    Hence, they're not insults.

    They're facts.

    About you.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Wally J on Sat Sep 23 19:11:34 2023
    On 2023-09-23 18:54, Wally J wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    thinking they are magically more effective when repeated

    Actually, every post from you iKooks proves me correct, Jolly Roger.

    Hence, they're not insults.

    They're facts.

    About you.

    LOL!

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sun Sep 24 18:28:25 2023
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 03:16, Chris wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen is
    quite limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one thing is
    wasteful of that scare resource.

    It depends if it's a valuable use of that resource. For many, myself
    included, it is.

    But you haven't lost that use.

    It is very slightly changed, but you've still got it.

    It's fundamentally changed. Hardware removed in favour of software.

    A limited single-purpose switch was replaced by a multi-purpose switch
    that is both *much* more flexible and *much* more capable button.

    Whilst reducing the simplicity and effectiveness of its main purpose.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Chris on Sun Sep 24 11:58:19 2023
    On 2023-09-24 11:28, Chris wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 03:16, Chris wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen is
    quite limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one thing is
    wasteful of that scare resource.

    It depends if it's a valuable use of that resource. For many, myself >>>>> included, it is.

    But you haven't lost that use.

    It is very slightly changed, but you've still got it.

    It's fundamentally changed. Hardware removed in favour of software.

    A limited single-purpose switch was replaced by a multi-purpose switch
    that is both *much* more flexible and *much* more capable button.

    Whilst reducing the simplicity and effectiveness of its main purpose.


    Nope. Out of the box it will operate just as simply.

    Press it: the phone is muted and you get haptic feedback that the phone
    is now on mute.

    Press it again: the phone is unmuted.

    Want to feel for whether the phone is muted? Press the button.

    You're literally whining about the one additional press you'd need if
    the phone was already muted.

    And how is it any less effective?

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Chris on Sun Sep 24 19:38:17 2023
    On 2023-09-24, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 03:16, Chris wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen is
    quite limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one thing is
    wasteful of that scare resource.

    It depends if it's a valuable use of that resource. For many,
    myself included, it is.

    But you haven't lost that use.

    It is very slightly changed, but you've still got it.

    It's fundamentally changed. Hardware removed in favour of software.

    A limited single-purpose switch was replaced by a multi-purpose
    switch that is both *much* more flexible and *much* more capable
    button.

    Whilst reducing the simplicity and effectiveness of its main purpose.

    Not by much, considering you can still use it to mute the device with a
    single press.

    You're whining about trivial matters.

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    JR

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sun Sep 24 13:23:39 2023
    On 2023-09-24 13:19, Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2023-09-24 14:28, Chris wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 03:16, Chris wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen is >>>>>>> quite limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one thing is >>>>>>> wasteful of that scare resource.

    It depends if it's a valuable use of that resource. For many, myself >>>>>> included, it is.

    But you haven't lost that use.

    It is very slightly changed, but you've still got it.

    It's fundamentally changed. Hardware removed in favour of software.

    A limited single-purpose switch was replaced by a multi-purpose switch
    that is both *much* more flexible and *much* more capable button.

    Whilst reducing the simplicity and effectiveness of its main purpose.

    That would be up to the user.  Set it up as you like: simple or complex.


    "Weahhhh! It doesn't work precisely like it used to! I'm so confused by change!"

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Chris on Sun Sep 24 16:19:27 2023
    On 2023-09-24 14:28, Chris wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 03:16, Chris wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen is
    quite limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one thing is
    wasteful of that scare resource.

    It depends if it's a valuable use of that resource. For many, myself >>>>> included, it is.

    But you haven't lost that use.

    It is very slightly changed, but you've still got it.

    It's fundamentally changed. Hardware removed in favour of software.

    A limited single-purpose switch was replaced by a multi-purpose switch
    that is both *much* more flexible and *much* more capable button.

    Whilst reducing the simplicity and effectiveness of its main purpose.

    That would be up to the user. Set it up as you like: simple or complex.

    --
    “Markets can remain irrational longer than your can remain solvent.”
    - John Maynard Keynes.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun Sep 24 23:04:06 2023
    On 2023-09-24, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-24 13:19, Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2023-09-24 14:28, Chris wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 03:16, Chris wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen >>>>>>>> is quite limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one
    thing is wasteful of that scare resource.

    It depends if it's a valuable use of that resource. For many,
    myself included, it is.

    But you haven't lost that use.

    It is very slightly changed, but you've still got it.

    It's fundamentally changed. Hardware removed in favour of
    software.

    A limited single-purpose switch was replaced by a multi-purpose
    switch that is both *much* more flexible and *much* more capable
    button.

    Whilst reducing the simplicity and effectiveness of its main
    purpose.

    That would be up to the user.  Set it up as you like: simple or
    complex.

    "Weahhhh! It doesn't work precisely like it used to! I'm so confused
    by change!"

    That's essentially their entire complaint.

    Ok, boomers... 😉

    --
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    JR

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun Sep 24 23:48:42 2023
    On 2023-09-24, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-24 16:04, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-09-24, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-24 13:19, Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2023-09-24 14:28, Chris wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 03:16, Chris wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen >>>>>>>>>> is quite limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one >>>>>>>>>> thing is wasteful of that scare resource.

    It depends if it's a valuable use of that resource. For many, >>>>>>>>> myself included, it is.

    But you haven't lost that use.

    It is very slightly changed, but you've still got it.

    It's fundamentally changed. Hardware removed in favour of
    software.

    A limited single-purpose switch was replaced by a multi-purpose
    switch that is both *much* more flexible and *much* more capable
    button.

    Whilst reducing the simplicity and effectiveness of its main
    purpose.

    That would be up to the user.  Set it up as you like: simple or
    complex.

    "Weahhhh! It doesn't work precisely like it used to! I'm so confused
    by change!"

    That's essentially their entire complaint.

    Ok, boomers... 😉

    The hilarious part is that I'm 61!

    Some of us adapt well to change. Others, not so much. Age is relative.
    🙂👍
    🏼
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sun Sep 24 16:17:17 2023
    On 2023-09-24 16:04, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-09-24, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-24 13:19, Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2023-09-24 14:28, Chris wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 03:16, Chris wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen >>>>>>>>> is quite limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one
    thing is wasteful of that scare resource.

    It depends if it's a valuable use of that resource. For many,
    myself included, it is.

    But you haven't lost that use.

    It is very slightly changed, but you've still got it.

    It's fundamentally changed. Hardware removed in favour of
    software.

    A limited single-purpose switch was replaced by a multi-purpose
    switch that is both *much* more flexible and *much* more capable
    button.

    Whilst reducing the simplicity and effectiveness of its main
    purpose.

    That would be up to the user.  Set it up as you like: simple or
    complex.

    "Weahhhh! It doesn't work precisely like it used to! I'm so confused
    by change!"

    That's essentially their entire complaint.

    Ok, boomers... 😉


    The hilarious part is that I'm 61!

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sun Sep 24 16:54:51 2023
    On 2023-09-24 16:48, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-09-24, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-24 16:04, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-09-24, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-24 13:19, Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2023-09-24 14:28, Chris wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 03:16, Chris wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen >>>>>>>>>>> is quite limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one >>>>>>>>>>> thing is wasteful of that scare resource.

    It depends if it's a valuable use of that resource. For many, >>>>>>>>>> myself included, it is.

    But you haven't lost that use.

    It is very slightly changed, but you've still got it.

    It's fundamentally changed. Hardware removed in favour of
    software.

    A limited single-purpose switch was replaced by a multi-purpose
    switch that is both *much* more flexible and *much* more capable >>>>>>> button.

    Whilst reducing the simplicity and effectiveness of its main
    purpose.

    That would be up to the user.  Set it up as you like: simple or
    complex.

    "Weahhhh! It doesn't work precisely like it used to! I'm so confused
    by change!"

    That's essentially their entire complaint.

    Ok, boomers... 😉

    The hilarious part is that I'm 61!

    Some of us adapt well to change. Others, not so much. Age is relative. 🙂👍
    🏼

    Preach!

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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Sep 25 01:51:07 2023
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    The hilarious part is that I'm 61!



    Start acting your age then.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Mon Sep 25 02:56:00 2023
    On 2023-09-25, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    The hilarious part is that I'm 61!

    Start acting your age then.

    You mean mature and able to adapt to relatively minor changes without
    becoming a huge crybaby and trolling about it? Seems he's already there.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sun Sep 24 21:06:04 2023
    On 2023-09-24 19:56, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-09-25, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    The hilarious part is that I'm 61!

    Start acting your age then.

    You mean mature and able to adapt to relatively minor changes without becoming a huge crybaby and trolling about it? Seems he's already there.


    Thanks!

    I've always thought so. :-)

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Sep 25 06:49:25 2023
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-24 16:04, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-09-24, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-24 13:19, Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2023-09-24 14:28, Chris wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 03:16, Chris wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen >>>>>>>>>> is quite limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one >>>>>>>>>> thing is wasteful of that scare resource.

    It depends if it's a valuable use of that resource. For many, >>>>>>>>> myself included, it is.

    But you haven't lost that use.

    It is very slightly changed, but you've still got it.

    It's fundamentally changed. Hardware removed in favour of
    software.

    A limited single-purpose switch was replaced by a multi-purpose
    switch that is both *much* more flexible and *much* more capable
    button.

    Whilst reducing the simplicity and effectiveness of its main
    purpose.

    That would be up to the user.  Set it up as you like: simple or
    complex.

    "Weahhhh! It doesn't work precisely like it used to! I'm so confused
    by change!"

    That's essentially their entire complaint.

    Ok, boomers... 😉


    The hilarious part is that I'm 61!

    Why do you act like you're in the playground then. Are you sure you're not
    16?

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  • From sms@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Mon Sep 25 07:00:34 2023
    On 9/22/2023 6:17 PM, badgolferman wrote:

    <snip>

    It is. The visual/tactile indicator of the rocker switch and the orange bar is lost now. Now if you’re in a meeting and can’t remember whether you silenced your phone, you can’t just feel the switch position with your finger if it’s in your pocket and you can’t just look at the edge of the phone if it’s sitting on the table.

    I know you don’t care about any of that because you didn’t use it that way,
    but many people did. It’s all the rest of us who will have to adapt to a new method when the old way worked perfectly fine.

    Moving parts, and ports, are expensive and are the parts most likely to
    fail, such as the old physical home button, the old 3.5mm headphone
    jack, the old Lightning port, and now the Ring/Silent switch. Replacing
    their functionality with alternatives reduces costs, including warranty
    repair costs, and in the case of the headphone jack it spurred sales of
    AirPods as well as Lightning to 3.5mm adapters─a win-win for Apple. It's actually amazing that the Ring/Silent switch was retained for so long.

    There are multiple workarounds to the decontenting of the Ring/Silent
    switch (just as there are multiple workarounds to the decontenting of
    the 3.5mm headphone jack, and there are multiple workarounds to the decontenting of the SIM card slot on the U.S. models of the iPhone
    starting with the 14). Unfortunately, none of the workarounds to the decontenting of the Ring/Silent switch are as fast, and as intuitive, as
    the physical Ring/Silent switch:

    Options to Silence the iPhone 15 Pro/Pro Max:

    1. Turn the phone completely off.

    2. Unlock the phone, slide down from the top right edge to open System
    Services and slide the volume to the minimum setting. Turn on Airplane
    mode while you're at it.

    3. Unlock the phone, slide down from the top right edge to open System Services. Tap and hold the Focus button, then tap Do Not Disturb. Be
    sure that you also have not allowed notifications from any people or
    apps when in Do Not Disturb mode.

    4. Program the Action button to toggle between Ring and Silent.

    5. Go to Settings > Accessibility > Touch > AssistiveTouch and turn AssistiveTouch on. Now you will have the Virtual AssistiveTouch button
    on your screen. Unlock the phone, tap the virtual button, then tap
    Device, then tap Mute/Unmute.

    6. Unlock the phone, go to Settings > Sounds & Haptics, and slide
    "RINGTONE AND ALERT VOLUME to the minimum level (the phone will remind
    you that Silent Mode is Off)

    It took a tremendous amount of courage for Apple to remove a feature
    that nearly every iPhone user used on a regular basis. This was also a
    feature that non-iPhone users greatly appreciated when attending a
    concert, movie, or other even where the audience is expected to be quiet.

    --
    “If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
    really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
    indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
    they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to sms on Mon Sep 25 09:28:14 2023
    On 2023-09-25 05:00, sms wrote:
    On 9/22/2023 6:17 PM, badgolferman wrote:

    <snip>

    It is. The visual/tactile indicator of the rocker switch and the
    orange bar
    is lost now. Now if you’re in a meeting and can’t remember whether you >> silenced your phone, you can’t just feel the switch position with your
    finger if it’s in your pocket and you can’t just look at the edge of the >> phone if it’s sitting on the table.

    I know you don’t care about any of that because you didn’t use it that >> way,
    but many people did. It’s all the rest of us who will have to adapt to a >> new method when the old way worked perfectly fine.

    Moving parts, and ports, are expensive and are the parts most likely to
    fail, such as the old physical home button, the old 3.5mm headphone
    jack, the old Lightning port, and now the Ring/Silent switch. Replacing
    their functionality with alternatives reduces costs, including warranty repair costs, and in the case of the headphone jack it spurred sales of AirPods as well as Lightning to 3.5mm adapters─a win-win for Apple. It's actually amazing that the Ring/Silent switch was retained for so long.

    Apple included the Lightning to 3.5mm adapter for a good long while.


    There are multiple workarounds to the decontenting of the Ring/Silent
    switch (just as there are multiple workarounds to the decontenting of
    the 3.5mm headphone jack, and there are multiple workarounds to the decontenting of the SIM card slot on the U.S. models of the iPhone
    starting with the 14). Unfortunately, none of the workarounds to the decontenting of the Ring/Silent switch are as fast, and as intuitive, as
    the physical Ring/Silent switch:

    The switch has been "decontented". Quite the reverse. Functionality has
    been added.

    It took a tremendous amount of courage for Apple to remove a feature
    that nearly every iPhone user used on a regular basis. This was also a feature that non-iPhone users greatly appreciated when attending a
    concert, movie, or other even where the audience is expected to be quiet.

    They didn't remove the feature. The very slightly changed how it was implemented.

    Don't be such a dick.

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