• Re: Apple confirms iOS 17 fix for overheating iPhones is on the way

    From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Sep 30 17:48:44 2023
    On 2023-09-30, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    Contrary to the gleeful claims of the resident trolls here stating the
    iPhone 15 has a supposed hardware defect, Apple has confirmed that the
    recent spat of iPhone heat complaints is the result of an *iOS 17 bug*
    that will be fixed shortly in an update:

    Apple confirms iOS 17 fix for overheating iPhones is on the way
    <https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/09/30/apple-confirms-ios-17-fix-for-overheating-iphones-is-on-the-way>
    ---
    The iPhone 15 overheating issue is being worked on by Apple, the company
    has confirmed, with an iOS 17 bug and third-party apps blamed for some
    of the hot iPhone reports. Following the launch of the iPhone 15 and
    iPhone 15 Pro lines, Apple has had to face claims and reports about the
    new smartphones overheating in various situations. On Saturday, the
    iPhone maker has confirmed it is aware of the reports, and it's working
    to solve the problem.

    In comments received by Forbes on the matter, Apple states "*We have identified a few conditions which can cause iPhone to run warmer than expected.*" During the first few days of setting up or restoring a
    device, Apple advises some warmth can be expected "*because of increased background activity.*"

    This activity can include the iPhone redownloading apps and bought
    content, as well as a lengthy period of indexing all files for Spotlight search.

    Apple brings up software as a second port of call for the heat issue.
    "*We have also found a bug in iOS 17 that is impacting some users and
    will be addressed in a software update,*" Apple says without specifying
    what the bug actually is.

    "*Another issue involves some recent updates to third-party apps that are causing them to overload the system,*" Apple continued. "*We're working
    with these app developers on fixes that are in the process of rolling
    out.*"

    One prominent example of third-party app problems is Instagram, with it claimed to not only overheat the iPhone but to also heavily consume the battery for brief periods of time.

    Testing via YouTube personalities determined that there were occasions
    when using Instagram triggered overheating for up to 10 minutes at a
    time.

    While reports from the public focused on Apple's latest smartphone
    launches, it seems at least for Instagram that it affects other models
    too. Some iPhone 14 generation devices had the same heat issues as their iPhone 15 counterparts, again using Instagram and after updating to iOS
    17.

    Apple didn't advise when it would issue a fix for the situation, but
    there's a chance it could be incorporated into iOS 17.1.
    ---

    Another choice quote:

    ---
    There has been much speculation that this could be down to the new
    titanium material that is one of the big updates on the iPhone 15 Pro
    and iPhone 15 Pro Max. This never made sense to me, not least because
    iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus users were reporting overheating, and
    there’s no titanium in those handsets.

    What’s more, Apple has been consistent about how titanium, in
    conjunction with its aluminum substructure, is great at dispersing heat. Better, indeed, than any previous stainless steel iPhone Pro model. The
    design of the iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro is not causing
    overheating, Apple says.
    ---

    So much for that bogus claim...

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 30 17:46:00 2023
    Contrary to the gleeful claims of the resident trolls here stating the
    iPhone 15 has a supposed hardware defect, Apple has confirmed that the
    recent spat of iPhone heat complaints is the result of an *iOS 17 bug*
    that will be fixed shortly in an update:

    Apple confirms iOS 17 fix for overheating iPhones is on the way <https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/09/30/apple-confirms-ios-17-fix-for-overheating-iphones-is-on-the-way>
    ---
    The iPhone 15 overheating issue is being worked on by Apple, the company
    has confirmed, with an iOS 17 bug and third-party apps blamed for some
    of the hot iPhone reports. Following the launch of the iPhone 15 and
    iPhone 15 Pro lines, Apple has had to face claims and reports about the
    new smartphones overheating in various situations. On Saturday, the
    iPhone maker has confirmed it is aware of the reports, and it's working
    to solve the problem.

    In comments received by Forbes on the matter, Apple states "*We have
    identified a few conditions which can cause iPhone to run warmer than expected.*" During the first few days of setting up or restoring a
    device, Apple advises some warmth can be expected "*because of increased background activity.*"

    This activity can include the iPhone redownloading apps and bought
    content, as well as a lengthy period of indexing all files for Spotlight search.

    Apple brings up software as a second port of call for the heat issue.
    "*We have also found a bug in
  • From Patrick@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sun Oct 1 02:52:04 2023
    On 30 Sep 2023 17:46:00 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
    with an iOS 17 bug and third-party apps blamed for some
    of the hot iPhone reports.

    Apple blames the 'apps' (and not Apple's lack of testing them).

    "*We have
    identified a few conditions which can cause iPhone to run warmer than expected.*"

    Apple blames the 'conditions' (and not Apple's lack of testing).

    This activity can include the iPhone redownloading apps and bought
    content,

    Apple blames the 'redownloading' (and not Apple's lack of testing).

    as well as a lengthy period of indexing all files for Spotlight
    search.

    Apple blames the 'indexing' (and not Apple's lack of testing).

    Apple brings up software as a second port of call for the heat issue.

    Apple blames the 'software' (and not Apple's lack of testing).

    "*We have also found a bug in iOS 17 that is impacting some users and
    will be addressed in a software update,*" Apple says without specifying
    what the bug actually is.

    Apple blames the 'iOS 17 bug' (and not Apple's lack of testing).

    "*Another issue involves some recent updates to third-party apps

    Apple blames the 'updates' (and not Apple's lack of testing).

    One prominent example of third-party app problems is Instagram,

    Apple blames 'Instagram' (and not Apple's lack of testing).

    it seems at least for Instagram that it affects other models
    too. Some iPhone 14 generation devices had the same heat issues as their iPhone 15 counterparts, again using Instagram and after updating to iOS
    17.

    Apple blames 'everyone but Apple' (but never Apple's lack of testing).

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  • From Oscar Mayer@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Sep 30 14:43:46 2023
    On 30 Sep 2023 17:46:00 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

    Contrary to the gleeful claims of the resident trolls here stating the
    iPhone 15 has a supposed hardware defect, Apple has confirmed that the
    recent spat of iPhone heat complaints is the result of an *iOS 17 bug*
    that will be fixed shortly in an update:

    Is this the same bug you and Alan Baker insisted for days didn't exist?

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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Sep 30 19:16:44 2023
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    Contrary to the gleeful claims of the resident trolls here stating the
    iPhone 15 has a supposed hardware defect, Apple has confirmed that the
    recent spat of iPhone heat complaints is the result of an *iOS 17 bug*
    that will be fixed shortly in an update:

    Apple confirms iOS 17 fix for overheating iPhones is on the way <https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/09/30/apple-confirms-ios-17-fix-for-overheating-iphones-is-on-the-way>
    ---
    The iPhone 15 overheating issue is being worked on by Apple, the company
    has confirmed, with an iOS 17 bug and third-party apps blamed for some
    of the hot iPhone reports. Following the launch of the iPhone 15 and
    iPhone 15 Pro lines, Apple has had to face claims and reports about the
    new smartphones overheating in various situations. On Saturday, the
    iPhone maker has confirmed it is aware of the reports, and it's working
    to solve the problem.

    In comments received by Forbes on the matter, Apple states "*We have identified a few conditions which can cause iPhone to run warmer than expected.*" During the first few days of setting up or restoring a
    device, Apple advises some warmth can be expected "*because of increased background activity.*"

    This activity can include the iPhone redownloading apps and bought
    content, as well as a lengthy period of indexing all files for Spotlight search.

    Apple brings up software as a second port of call for the heat issue.
    "*We have also found a bug in iOS 17 that is impacting some users and
    will be addressed in a software update,*" Apple says without specifying
    what the bug actually is.

    "*Another issue involves some recent updates to third-party apps that are causing them to overload the system,*" Apple continued. "*We're working
    with these app developers on fixes that are in the process of rolling
    out.*"

    One prominent example of third-party app problems is Instagram, with it claimed to not only overheat the iPhone but to also heavily consume the battery for brief periods of time.

    Testing via YouTube personalities determined that there were occasions
    when using Instagram triggered overheating for up to 10 minutes at a
    time.

    While reports from the public focused on Apple's latest smartphone
    launches, it seems at least for Instagram that it affects other models
    too. Some iPhone 14 generation devices had the same heat issues as their iPhone 15 counterparts, again using Instagram and after updating to iOS
    17.

    Apple didn't advise when it would issue a fix for the situation, but
    there's a chance it could be incorporated into iOS 17.1.
    ---


    The vague description of the problem will lead to a vague description of
    the solution.

    iOS 17 has been installed on my work iPhone 11 and I haven’t noticed any problems, but then I only use Outlook to view email.

    iOS 16.7 has been installed on my personal iPhone 14 and I will hold out
    for the vague solution to be released.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Sep 30 19:19:31 2023
    On 2023-09-30, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-30, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    Contrary to the gleeful claims of the resident trolls here stating the
    iPhone 15 has a supposed hardware defect, Apple has confirmed that the
    recent spat of iPhone heat complaints is the result of an *iOS 17 bug*
    that will be fixed shortly in an update:

    Apple confirms iOS 17 fix for overheating iPhones is on the way >><https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/09/30/apple-confirms-ios-17-fix-for-overheating-iphones-is-on-the-way>

    Another choice quote:

    ---
    There has been much speculation that this could be down to the new
    titanium material that is one of the big updates on the iPhone 15 Pro
    and iPhone 15 Pro Max. This never made sense to me, not least because
    iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus users were reporting overheating, and
    there’s no titanium in those handsets.

    What’s more, Apple has been consistent about how titanium, in
    conjunction with its aluminum substructure, is great at dispersing heat. Better, indeed, than any previous stainless steel iPhone Pro model. The design of the iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro is not causing
    overheating, Apple says.
    ---

    So much for that bogus claim...

    Apple told Forbes that it will not be lowering the performance of the
    A17 Pro chip as part of its bug fix related to iPhone 15 Pro
    overheating.

    Squirm, little troll bois! 🤣

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Oscar Mayer on Sat Sep 30 19:22:51 2023
    On 2023-09-30, Oscar Mayer <nobody@oscarmayer.com> wrote:
    On 30 Sep 2023 17:46:00 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

    Contrary to the gleeful claims of the resident trolls here stating the
    iPhone 15 has a supposed hardware defect, Apple has confirmed that the
    recent spat of iPhone heat complaints is the result of an *iOS 17 bug*
    that will be fixed shortly in an update:

    Is this the same bug you and Alan Baker insisted for days didn't exist?

    Another blatant lie. I never said this issue didn't exist. What I *did*
    point out was much more nuanced than your weak trolls can account for:

    * many iPhone 15 owners report no heat issue
    * numerous owners of older models report heat issues after installing
    iOS 17

    Your trolls are weak.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Patrick on Sat Sep 30 19:30:32 2023
    On 2023-09-30, Patrick <patrick@oleary.com> wrote:
    On 30 Sep 2023 17:46:00 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

    with an iOS 17 bug and third-party apps blamed for some of the hot
    iPhone reports.

    Apple blames the 'apps' (and not Apple's lack of testing them).

    Actually, Apple blamed a bug in iOS itself, and also bugs in certain third-party apps that need to be updated.

    "*We have identified a few conditions which can cause iPhone to run
    warmer than expected.*"

    Apple blames the 'conditions' (and not Apple's lack of testing).

    Actually, all bugs have certain conditions that must be met for them to
    appear. There's nothing abnormal about stating that Apple has noted the conditions required for the bug to operate. Standard practice in any
    software development process.

    This activity can include the iPhone redownloading apps and bought
    content,

    Apple blames the 'redownloading' (and not Apple's lack of testing).

    Actually, it is well known that after any iOS update, the device will
    spend time rebuilding caches and indexes as well as downloading updated
    apps, during which time the device gets warmer, uses more energy, and
    drains the battery faster. After this process is complete, performance
    returns to normal.

    as well as a lengthy period of indexing all files for Spotlight
    search.

    Apple blames the 'indexing' (and not Apple's lack of testing).

    See above.

    Apple brings up software as a second port of call for the heat issue.

    Apple blames the 'software' (and not Apple's lack of testing).

    Actually, this is indeed a software (and not a hardware) defect -
    contrary to your baseless claims.

    "*We have also found a bug in iOS 17 that is impacting some users and
    will be addressed in a software update,*" Apple says without
    specifying what the bug actually is.

    Apple blames the 'iOS 17 bug' (and not Apple's lack of testing).

    Actually, bugs exist in all software created today. And in software
    that is distributed to hundreds of millions of devices with varying configurations and operating environments, it's a virtual certainty that
    some unknown bugs will be found after deployment. That's just a fact of
    life on this planet today.

    "*Another issue involves some recent updates to third-party apps

    Apple blames the 'updates' (and not Apple's lack of testing).

    Actually, Apple is stating that certain app updates have bugs that cause excessive resources resulting in excess heat generation.

    One prominent example of third-party app problems is Instagram,

    Apple blames 'Instagram' (and not Apple's lack of testing).

    See above.

    it seems at least for Instagram that it affects other models too.
    Some iPhone 14 generation devices had the same heat issues as their
    iPhone 15 counterparts, again using Instagram and after updating to
    iOS 17.

    Apple blames 'everyone but Apple' (but never Apple's lack of testing).

    Actually, Apple's very first explanation was a bug in iOS 17.

    Your trolls are weak.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Sat Sep 30 19:32:19 2023
    On 2023-09-30, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

    The vague description of the problem will lead to a vague description
    of the solution.

    All that matters to people who aren't trolls is that they have located
    the problem and are working on a fix.

    iOS 17 has been installed on my work iPhone 11 and I haven’t noticed
    any problems

    Many others echo this. The bug does not effect most people.

    but then I only use Outlook to view email.

    I don't see the relevance of this.

    iOS 16.7 has been installed on my personal iPhone 14 and I will hold
    out for the vague solution to be released.

    Whatever floats your troll boat.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Oscar Mayer on Sat Sep 30 12:43:54 2023
    On 2023-09-30 11:43, Oscar Mayer wrote:
    On 30 Sep 2023 17:46:00 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

    Contrary to the gleeful claims of the resident trolls here stating the
    iPhone 15 has a supposed hardware defect, Apple has confirmed that the
    recent spat of iPhone heat complaints is the result of an *iOS 17 bug*
    that will be fixed shortly in an update:

    Is this the same bug you and Alan Baker insisted for days didn't exist?

    Where did I assert that...

    ...Arlen?

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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Sep 30 20:03:12 2023
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-30, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:


    but then I only use Outlook to view email.

    I don't see the relevance of this.



    On my work phone I only use one app - Outlook. That means it is hardly stressed to do anything intensive or render any graphics. There’s barely
    any chance for it to get overheated. Maybe charging it is the only way for
    that to happen.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Sat Sep 30 20:30:54 2023
    On 2023-09-30, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-30, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

    but then I only use Outlook to view email.

    I don't see the relevance of this.

    On my work phone I only use one app - Outlook. That means it is hardly stressed to do anything intensive or render any graphics. There’s barely any chance for it to get overheated. Maybe charging it is the only way for that to happen.

    Good luck.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Sat Sep 30 13:25:28 2023
    On 2023-09-30 13:03, badgolferman wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-30, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:


    but then I only use Outlook to view email.

    I don't see the relevance of this.



    On my work phone I only use one app - Outlook. That means it is hardly stressed to do anything intensive or render any graphics. There’s barely any chance for it to get overheated. Maybe charging it is the only way for that to happen.

    Well that's simply bullshit from the start.

    There is literally no chance that you have never once used any app on
    your work phone except Outlook.

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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Sep 30 20:50:55 2023
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-30 13:03, badgolferman wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-30, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:


    but then I only use Outlook to view email.

    I don't see the relevance of this.



    On my work phone I only use one app - Outlook. That means it is hardly
    stressed to do anything intensive or render any graphics. There’s barely >> any chance for it to get overheated. Maybe charging it is the only way for >> that to happen.

    Well that's simply bullshit from the start.

    There is literally no chance that you have never once used any app on
    your work phone except Outlook.


    My work phone has MDM and is tightened down severely. Maybe once in a while
    I look at weather, but I don’t like the iOS weather app and mostly look at
    my own phone for weather. Email is 99% of my usage on that phone.

    And the only bullshit here is whatever comes out of your mind.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Patrick on Sun Oct 1 09:30:12 2023
    On 2023-09-30 18:52:04 +0000, Patrick said:

    On 30 Sep 2023 17:46:00 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
    with an iOS 17 bug and third-party apps blamed for some
    of the hot iPhone reports.

    Apple blames
    <snip>

    Another anti-Apple moron for the killfile.

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  • From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Sat Sep 30 23:18:41 2023
    badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-30, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:


    but then I only use Outlook to view email.

    I don't see the relevance of this.



    On my work phone I only use one app - Outlook. That means it is hardly stressed to do anything intensive or render any graphics. There’s barely any chance for it to get overheated. Maybe charging it is the only way for that to happen.

    I noticed my iPhone 13 getting warm on occasion whether rapid charging or
    in the car with summer sun blazing. That was before I updated to iOS 17. Can’t tell if it has gotten much worse. Firefox has weird rendering when typing replies to a blog I never noticed before the update.

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  • From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Sep 30 23:21:55 2023
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    Contrary to the gleeful claims of the resident trolls here stating the
    iPhone 15 has a supposed hardware defect, Apple has confirmed that the
    recent spat of iPhone heat complaints is the result of an *iOS 17 bug*
    that will be fixed shortly in an update:

    Apple confirms iOS 17 fix for overheating iPhones is on the way <https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/09/30/apple-confirms-ios-17-fix-for-overheating-iphones-is-on-the-way>
    ---
    The iPhone 15 overheating issue is being worked on by Apple, the company
    has confirmed, with an iOS 17 bug and third-party apps blamed for some
    of the hot iPhone reports. Following the launch of the iPhone 15 and
    iPhone 15 Pro lines, Apple has had to face claims and reports about the
    new smartphones overheating in various situations. On Saturday, the
    iPhone maker has confirmed it is aware of the reports, and it's working
    to solve the problem.

    In comments received by Forbes on the matter, Apple states "*We have identified a few conditions which can cause iPhone to run warmer than expected.*" During the first few days of setting up or restoring a
    device, Apple advises some warmth can be expected "*because of increased background activity.*"

    This activity can include the iPhone redownloading apps and bought
    content, as well as a lengthy period of indexing all files for Spotlight search.

    Apple brings up software as a second port of call for the heat issue.
    "*We have also found a bug in iOS 17 that is impacting some users and
    will be addressed in a software update,*" Apple says without specifying
    what the bug actually is.

    "*Another issue involves some recent updates to third-party apps that are causing them to overload the system,*" Apple continued. "*We're working
    with these app developers on fixes that are in the process of rolling
    out.*"

    One prominent example of third-party app problems is Instagram, with it claimed to not only overheat the iPhone but to also heavily consume the battery for brief periods of time.

    Testing via YouTube personalities determined that there were occasions
    when using Instagram triggered overheating for up to 10 minutes at a
    time.

    While reports from the public focused on Apple's latest smartphone
    launches, it seems at least for Instagram that it affects other models
    too. Some iPhone 14 generation devices had the same heat issues as their iPhone 15 counterparts, again using Instagram and after updating to iOS
    17.

    Apple didn't advise when it would issue a fix for the situation, but
    there's a chance it could be incorporated into iOS 17.1.
    ---

    I don’t use Instagram. I guess the coming update will be important regardless. Good to see it might not be hardware afterall.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 1 13:03:28 2023
    On 2023-09-30 23:21:55 +0000, *Hemidactylus* said:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    Contrary to the gleeful claims of the resident trolls here stating the
    iPhone 15 has a supposed hardware defect, Apple has confirmed that the
    recent spat of iPhone heat complaints is the result of an *iOS 17 bug*
    that will be fixed shortly in an update:

    Apple confirms iOS 17 fix for overheating iPhones is on the way
    <https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/09/30/apple-confirms-ios-17-fix-for-overheating-iphones-is-on-the-way>

    ---
    The iPhone 15 overheating issue is being worked on by Apple, the company
    has confirmed, with an iOS 17 bug and third-party apps blamed for some
    of the hot iPhone reports. Following the launch of the iPhone 15 and
    iPhone 15 Pro lines, Apple has had to face claims and reports about the
    new smartphones overheating in various situations. On Saturday, the
    iPhone maker has confirmed it is aware of the reports, and it's working
    to solve the problem.

    In comments received by Forbes on the matter, Apple states "*We have
    identified a few conditions which can cause iPhone to run warmer than
    expected.*" During the first few days of setting up or restoring a
    device, Apple advises some warmth can be expected "*because of increased
    background activity.*"

    This activity can include the iPhone redownloading apps and bought
    content, as well as a lengthy period of indexing all files for Spotlight
    search.

    Apple brings up software as a second port of call for the heat issue.
    "*We have also found a bug in iOS 17 that is impacting some users and
    will be addressed in a software update,*" Apple says without specifying
    what the bug actually is.

    "*Another issue involves some recent updates to third-party apps that are
    causing them to overload the system,*" Apple continued. "*We're working
    with these app developers on fixes that are in the process of rolling
    out.*"

    One prominent example of third-party app problems is Instagram, with it
    claimed to not only overheat the iPhone but to also heavily consume the
    battery for brief periods of time.

    Testing via YouTube personalities determined that there were occasions
    when using Instagram triggered overheating for up to 10 minutes at a
    time.

    While reports from the public focused on Apple's latest smartphone
    launches, it seems at least for Instagram that it affects other models
    too. Some iPhone 14 generation devices had the same heat issues as their
    iPhone 15 counterparts, again using Instagram and after updating to iOS
    17.

    Apple didn't advise when it would issue a fix for the situation, but
    there's a chance it could be incorporated into iOS 17.1.

    I don’t use Instagram. I guess the coming update will be important regardless. Good to see it might not be hardware afterall.

    Instagram is one app that seems to have issues, but there are almost
    certainly other apps that cause the problem - not sure if any others
    have actually been named though.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Patrick on Sat Sep 30 21:09:50 2023
    On 2023-09-30 11:52, Patrick wrote:
    On 30 Sep 2023 17:46:00 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
    with an iOS 17 bug and third-party apps blamed for some
    of the hot iPhone reports.

    Apple blames the 'apps' (and not Apple's lack of testing them).

    "*We have
    identified a few conditions which can cause iPhone to run warmer than
    expected.*"

    Apple blames the 'conditions' (and not Apple's lack of testing).

    This activity can include the iPhone redownloading apps and bought
    content,

    Apple blames the 'redownloading' (and not Apple's lack of testing).

    as well as a lengthy period of indexing all files for Spotlight
    search.

    Apple blames the 'indexing' (and not Apple's lack of testing).

    Apple brings up software as a second port of call for the heat issue.

    Apple blames the 'software' (and not Apple's lack of testing).

    "*We have also found a bug in iOS 17 that is impacting some users and
    will be addressed in a software update,*" Apple says without specifying
    what the bug actually is.

    Apple blames the 'iOS 17 bug' (and not Apple's lack of testing).

    "*Another issue involves some recent updates to third-party apps

    Apple blames the 'updates' (and not Apple's lack of testing).

    One prominent example of third-party app problems is Instagram,

    Apple blames 'Instagram' (and not Apple's lack of testing).

    it seems at least for Instagram that it affects other models
    too. Some iPhone 14 generation devices had the same heat issues as their
    iPhone 15 counterparts, again using Instagram and after updating to iOS
    17.

    Apple blames 'everyone but Apple' (but never Apple's lack of testing).

    Arlen... ...stick to one nym, please.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 3 15:32:24 2023
    Am 30.09.23 um 22:50 schrieb badgolferman:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-30 13:03, badgolferman wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-30, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>

    but then I only use Outlook to view email.

    I don't see the relevance of this.



    On my work phone I only use one app - Outlook. That means it is hardly
    stressed to do anything intensive or render any graphics. There’s barely >>> any chance for it to get overheated. Maybe charging it is the only way for >>> that to happen.

    Well that's simply bullshit from the start.

    There is literally no chance that you have never once used any app on
    your work phone except Outlook.


    My work phone has MDM and is tightened down severely. Maybe once in a while
    I look at weather, but I don’t like the iOS weather app and mostly look at my own phone for weather. Email is 99% of my usage on that phone.

    And the only bullshit here is whatever comes out of your mind.

    You do not understand how your iPhone works.
    *ROTFLSTC*

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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to hugybear@gmx.net on Tue Oct 3 13:59:54 2023
    Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    Am 30.09.23 um 22:50 schrieb badgolferman:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-30 13:03, badgolferman wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2023-09-30, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>

    but then I only use Outlook to view email.

    I don't see the relevance of this.



    On my work phone I only use one app - Outlook. That means it is hardly >>>> stressed to do anything intensive or render any graphics. There’s barely >>>> any chance for it to get overheated. Maybe charging it is the only way for >>>> that to happen.

    Well that's simply bullshit from the start.

    There is literally no chance that you have never once used any app on
    your work phone except Outlook.


    My work phone has MDM and is tightened down severely. Maybe once in a while >> I look at weather, but I don’t like the iOS weather app and mostly look at >> my own phone for weather. Email is 99% of my usage on that phone.

    And the only bullshit here is whatever comes out of your mind.

    You do not understand how your iPhone works.
    *ROTFLSTC*


    Please enlighten me with your great intelligence. I’d like to know exactly what you think you know. And what does that stupid acronym mean anyway?
    Don’t you know how to spell?

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 3 17:36:06 2023
    Am 03.10.23 um 15:59 schrieb badgolferman:
    Please enlighten me with your great intelligence. I’d like to know exactly what you think you know. And what does that stupid acronym mean anyway? Don’t you know how to spell?

    Learn to use DuckDuckGo.
    Learn to understand how many "apps" your iOS or Android devices start
    when you press the on-button.

    I'll help you:

    https://www.yourdictionary.com/articles/common-acronyms

    Once you claimed to be an aerospace-engineer. Did/do you work on the
    B-737 Max?

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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 3 16:25:25 2023
    Jörg Lorenz wrote:

    Am 03.10.23 um 15:59 schrieb badgolferman:
    Please enlighten me with your great intelligence. I’d like to know >>exactly what you think you know. And what does that stupid acronym
    mean anyway? Don’t you know how to spell?

    Learn to use DuckDuckGo.
    Learn to understand how many "apps" your iOS or Android devices start
    when you press the on-button.


    Surely you can read. I said I "use" one app on my work iPhone,
    Outlook. I didn't say only one app loads up in the background. You
    better stop stepping in your own shit trying to dig out of that hole.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 3 18:54:40 2023
    Am 03.10.23 um 18:25 schrieb badgolferman:
    Jörg Lorenz wrote:

    Am 03.10.23 um 15:59 schrieb badgolferman:
    Please enlighten me with your great intelligence. I’d like to know
    exactly what you think you know. And what does that stupid acronym
    mean anyway? Don’t you know how to spell?

    Learn to use DuckDuckGo.
    Learn to understand how many "apps" your iOS or Android devices start
    when you press the on-button.


    Surely you can read. I said I "use" one app on my work iPhone,
    Outlook. I didn't say only one app loads up in the background. You
    better stop stepping in your own shit trying to dig out of that hole.

    Are you trying to be a more civilised Troll-version of Arlen/Wally?

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