I miss nospam. Even though some of the things he says are annoying, at
least he is usually helpful and knows something about iOS. And he's a
big part of this group so his missing presence is noted. Has anyone
seen him on other newsgroups? Anyone able to check up on him? One of
our friends from another group went dark and we found out they were in
the hospital so that's why I'm asking.

--
"His absence is good company." ~ Scottish saying

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badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote

I miss nospam.

Not only nospam, but Lewis. JF Mezei. Michelle Steiner. David Empson...

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badgolferman wrote:

I miss nospam. Even though some of the things he says are annoying, at
least he is usually helpful and knows something about iOS. And he's a
big part of this group so his missing presence is noted. Has anyone
seen him on other newsgroups? Anyone able to check up on him? One of
our friends from another group went dark and we found out they were in
the hospital so that's why I'm asking.

When you find yourself missing nospam, just relax for a moment.
Take a deep breath and THINK.

Think of his good sayings ... Like: Not needed and not wanted.
Apple perfect. everyone is a troll.

Don't worry. He'll be back.

Praise Steve blowjobs (PBUH).

Amen.

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On 2023-10-12, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

I miss nospam.

badgolferman is SO BORED! He *needs* his daily arguments!! 🤣

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

On 2023-10-12, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

I miss nospam.

badgolferman is SO BORED! He *needs* his daily arguments!! 🤣

It’s called concern for others. A concept you are clearly unfamiliar with.

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Am 13.10.23 um 01:21 schrieb Hank Rogers:

badgolferman wrote:

I miss nospam. Even though some of the things he says are annoying, at
least he is usually helpful and knows something about iOS. And he's a
big part of this group so his missing presence is noted. Has anyone
seen him on other newsgroups? Anyone able to check up on him? One of
our friends from another group went dark and we found out they were in
the hospital so that's why I'm asking.

When you find yourself missing nospam, just relax for a moment.
Take a deep breath and THINK.

Think of his good sayings ... Like: Not needed and not wanted.
Apple perfect. everyone is a troll.

You certainly are. You never posted anything constructive or helpful.

Don't worry. He'll be back.

How would you know?

Praise Steve blowjobs (PBUH).

Amen.

You are a bigot and braindead Troll!

--
De gustibus non est disputandum

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Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

I miss nospam.

badgolferman is SO BORED! He *needs* his daily arguments!!

Each and every one of us serves a purpose on this child-like newsgroup,
Jolly Roger... yes... even you serve a useful purpose for people like I am.

You, Jolly Roger, have no filter. You're unable to contain your wrath and hatred for anyone who points out what Apple does (versus what Apple says).

Your instinct it to *ATTACK!*
By attacking, you hope what you hate will slink away in fear.
Like you just did now toward badgolferman.

This is how I know your IQ can't be anywhere near the level of normal.
You have no capacity for a normal adult-level discussion, Jolly Roger.

But what I really like about you, JR - is you are the epitome of the Apple consumer; hence, understanding how you think - helps me understand them.

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Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote

Think of his good sayings ... Like: Not needed and not wanted.
Apple perfect. everyone is a troll.

One of nospam's favorite tricks is to _deflect_ all blame away from Apple.

Usually by effectively claiming Samsung is who made Apple do what Apple
does (all the while saying that Samsung "copied" everything Apple did).

Notice there's no cohesion. Each apology is its own deflection.
It never mattered to nospam that none of his arguments ever dovetailed.

That's one way I knew he had a lower than average IQ.
He couldn't keep his own excuses cohesive.

Don't worry. He'll be back.

Most of the Apple apologists are here for affirmation of their "wondrous" choice of operating systems (why else do they gloat over Apple profits).

But nospam was different in that his only goal appeared to be to defend
Apple's honor to the death, no matter how incongruous his fabrications.

An example is nospam brazenly fabricated existence of hundreds of apps over
the years, never once coming up with the app (because it didn't exist).

You can't be smart if all your arguments are so easily dismissed as that.
--
I try to understand what makes these strange iKooks what they appear to be.

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badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote

It's called concern for others.
A concept you are clearly unfamiliar with.

Jolly Roger *ATTACKED!* (that's how he makes inconvenient facts go away).

But your observation nospam "disappeared" does seem to be true as it's
unlike nospam not to defend Apple to the death so something "happened".

But what?

I don't know of course. I've always wondered if Apple was the first to
realize the value of putting a troll factory onto Usenet and maybe Apple decided to move nospam to some other more useful media (perhaps on X?).

Let's hope nospam is in good health and otherwise well employed by Apple.

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On 10/12/2023 12:29 PM, badgolferman wrote:

I miss nospam. Even though some of the things he says are annoying, at
least he is usually helpful and knows something about iOS. And he's a
big part of this group so his missing presence is noted. Has anyone
seen him on other newsgroups? Anyone able to check up on him? One of
our friends from another group went dark and we found out they were in
the hospital so that's why I'm asking.

Wow, those one-word, no-information, retorts are certainly not something
that many people miss.

--

“Facts are stupid things.” ― Ronald Reagan

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On 2023-10-13 09:58, sms wrote:

On 10/12/2023 12:29 PM, badgolferman wrote:

I miss nospam.  Even though some of the things he says are annoying, at
least he is usually helpful and knows something about iOS.  And he's a
big part of this group so his missing presence is noted.  Has anyone
seen him on other newsgroups?  Anyone able to check up on him?  One of
our friends from another group went dark and we found out they were in
the hospital so that's why I'm asking.

Wow, those one-word, no-information, retorts are certainly not something
that many people miss.

Better than your rambling speculations that, like a broken clock, are
right on occasion.

“Facts are stupid things.” ― Ronald Reagan

Yes - you would subscribe to that.

--
“Markets can remain irrational longer than your can remain solvent.”
- John Maynard Keynes.

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sms wrote:

On 10/12/2023 12:29 PM, badgolferman wrote:

I miss nospam. Even though some of the things he says are
annoying, at least he is usually helpful and knows something about
iOS. And he's a big part of this group so his missing presence is
noted. Has anyone seen him on other newsgroups? Anyone able to
check up on him? One of our friends from another group went dark
and we found out they were in the hospital so that's why I'm asking.

Wow, those one-word, no-information, retorts are certainly not
something that many people miss.

As they would say in my father's country... "Your place is empty."

nospam earned his seat in this group and many of us look forward to his retorts. At least he is more mature than the crass Jolly Roger when
debating with others.

--
"The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the
strong." ~ Gandhi

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J�rg Lorenz wrote:

Am 13.10.23 um 01:21 schrieb Hank Rogers:

badgolferman wrote:

I miss nospam.� Even though some of the things he says are
annoying, at
least he is usually helpful and knows something about iOS.
And he's a
big part of this group so his missing presence is noted.
Has anyone
seen him on other newsgroups?� Anyone able to check up on
him?� One of
our friends from another group went dark and we found out
they were in
the hospital so that's why I'm asking.

When you find yourself missing nospam, just relax for a moment.
Take a deep breath and THINK.

Think of his good sayings ... Like:� Not needed and not wanted.
Apple perfect. everyone is a troll.

You certainly are. You never posted anything constructive or
helpful.

Don't worry. He'll be back.

How would you know?

Praise Steve blowjobs (PBUH).

Amen.

You are a bigot and braindead Troll!

Jughead, I thought you killfiled me a long time ago.

You must be getting feeble-minded.

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On 2023-10-13 05:47, Wally J wrote:

Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote

Think of his good sayings ... Like: Not needed and not wanted.
Apple perfect. everyone is a troll.

One of nospam's favorite tricks is to _deflect_ all blame away from Apple.

Usually by effectively claiming Samsung is who made Apple do what Apple
does (all the while saying that Samsung "copied" everything Apple did).

One of Arlen's favourite tricks is to claim that people are saying some
other company "made Apple do" something...

...when in point of FACT all those people have done is point out what
other companies are doing.

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badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote

nospam earned his seat in this group and many of us look forward to his retorts. At least he is more mature than the crass Jolly Roger when
debating with others.

Hi badgolferman,

I've studied nospam probably more than anyone here has ever tried to do.

While nospam did refrain from the instantaneous vicious personal attacks
that Lewis & Jolly Roger performed to deflect any truth about Apple...

... you can't quite absolve nospam of those childish ad hominem attacks directed against the person rather than the position they are maintaining.

All these iKooks, including nospam, are shockingly frantic to divert all
blame away from Apple, which they most often do by simply attacking the
bearer of the facts about Apple products.

To be clear, nospam was part and parcel with the iKooks who primarily
employ personal attacks as their fundamental deflection of criticism.

As just one of many examples of nospam's childish retorts, he would change
your quote and then respond as a child would, with "fixed that for you".

What's common with all these iKooks is they hate the facts about Apple so
much that they insult the bearer of those facts - to make them go away.

In that manner, nospam was as guilty as the rest of them, badgolferman.

What was _different_ about nospam though, was that he actually did know
more than any of them did. Only Alan Browne came close where Alan reads
Apple white papers as if they're gospel while nospam knows they're
bullshit.

Alan Browne isn't willing to lie as much as nospam, so when Alan Browne
says there is no walled garden, he actually believes it while nospam does
not.

The difference is nospam was a much better liar than the rest of them are.

However, losing nospam is a net gain for this newsgroup, even as he was the smartest of the low-IQ uneducated ignorant iKooks, in my humble opinion.
--
I have only two goals on Usenet, which are to learn and disseminate info.
On the child-like Apple newsgroups I add a third - to expose the iKooks.

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Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote

nospam earned his seat in this group and many of us look forward to his
retorts. At least he is more mature than the crass Jolly Roger when
debating with others.

Hi badgolferman,

I've studied nospam probably more than anyone here has ever tried to do.

While nospam did refrain from the instantaneous vicious personal attacks
that Lewis & Jolly Roger performed to deflect any truth about Apple...

... you can't quite absolve nospam of those childish ad hominem attacks directed against the person rather than the position they are maintaining.

All these iKooks, including nospam, are shockingly frantic to divert all blame away from Apple, which they most often do by simply attacking the bearer of the facts about Apple products.

To be clear, nospam was part and parcel with the iKooks who primarily
employ personal attacks as their fundamental deflection of criticism.

As just one of many examples of nospam's childish retorts, he would change your quote and then respond as a child would, with "fixed that for you".

What's common with all these iKooks is they hate the facts about Apple so much that they insult the bearer of those facts - to make them go away.

In that manner, nospam was as guilty as the rest of them, badgolferman.

What was _different_ about nospam though, was that he actually did know
more than any of them did. Only Alan Browne came close where Alan reads
Apple white papers as if they're gospel while nospam knows they're
bullshit.

Alan Browne isn't willing to lie as much as nospam, so when Alan Browne
says there is no walled garden, he actually believes it while nospam does not.

The difference is nospam was a much better liar than the rest of them are.

However, losing nospam is a net gain for this newsgroup, even as he was the smartest of the low-IQ uneducated ignorant iKooks, in my humble opinion.

Well, just like when I questioned your absence, I am also questioning nospam’s absence. Each of you brings something of value as I see it, unlike some others in this group…

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badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote

Well, just like when I questioned your absence, I am also questioning nospam��s absence. Each of you brings something of value as I see it, unlike some others in this group�K

Hi badgolferman,

I remember when you did that as my memory is extremely good (nobody who is highly technical can possibly be that way without having a good memory).

I noticed nospam's absence well before you posted where I wondered myself
why nospam disappeared suddenly. His last posts were around Sept 22 if my
crude search on Usenet archives is correct (you never know with google).
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/BfGUun__Nxw/m/82qxZJbUBwAJ>
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/_3iB84w8GEA/m/J7KOqUXUBwAJ>

If he's paid by Apple to act as a counterweight to facts, maybe Apple
decided their money would be better spent elsewhere perhaps? Dunno.

I'll re-assess though that it's a net win for the newsgroup with nospam not posting by saying that of all the iKooks, he knew the most - so his loss is probably the most damaging in terms of what he could offer (but rarely
did).

Of all the iKooks to leave this newsgroup, he will be missed the most for having provided actual technical value once in a while (and, of course, as
long as that technical value never put Apple in a bad light).

He won't be missed for his lies.
He won't be missed for his fantastic fabrications of iOS functionality.
He won't be missed for his incessant childish behavior.
Nor will he be missed for his never-ending ad hominem attacks.
And he won't be missed for derailing every conversation about Apple to his belief system that Samsung makes Apple do all the bad things Apple does.

The problem is weighing all that negative value from nospam, with the one
good trait he had - which was he did know more about Apple than the others.

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On 2023-10-13, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

On 2023-10-12, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

I miss nospam.

badgolferman is SO BORED! He *needs* his daily arguments!! 🤣

It’s called concern for others.

No, it's called utter boredom and yearning for disruption.

A concept you are clearly unfamiliar with.

Nah. I very much look forward to the day you trolls no longer disrupt
this newsgroup. My concern is: when will that be?

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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On 2023-10-13, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote

It's called concern for others.
A concept you are clearly unfamiliar with.

Jolly Roger *ATTACKED!* i

As opposed to you (Arlen) who *constantly* calls anyone who objects to
your weak trolls "iKooks", "low-IQ', "stupid", and a slew of other
names...

(that's how he makes inconvenient facts go away).

Pure projection.

Let's hope nospam is in good health and otherwise well employed by
Apple.

He doesn't work for Apple (which shows how much you actually know about
him), and probably just got sick of your troll gang's bullshit and took
a break. I know I've done that on occasion.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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On 2023-10-13, Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:

Jörg Lorenz wrote:

Am 13.10.23 um 01:21 schrieb Hank Rogers:

badgolferman wrote:

I miss nospam.  Even though some of the things he says are
annoying, at least he is usually helpful and knows something about
iOS. And he's a big part of this group so his missing presence is
noted. Has anyone seen him on other newsgroups?  Anyone able to
check up on him?  One of our friends from another group went dark
and we found out they were in the hospital so that's why I'm
asking.

When you find yourself missing nospam, just relax for a moment.
Take a deep breath and THINK.

Think of his good sayings ... Like:  Not needed and not wanted.
Apple perfect. everyone is a troll.

You certainly are. You never posted anything constructive or helpful.

Don't worry. He'll be back.

How would you know?

Praise Steve blowjobs (PBUH).

Amen.

You are a bigot and braindead Troll!

Jughead, I thought you killfiled me a long time ago.

Nothing you can say will remove your own bigoted words from history,
bigot.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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On 2023-10-13, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

I miss nospam.

badgolferman is SO BORED! He *needs* his daily arguments!!

Each and every one of us serves a purpose

Yes, and yours is only to disrupt and insult.

--
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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On 2023-10-13, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:

Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote

Think of his good sayings ... Like: Not needed and not wanted.
Apple perfect. everyone is a troll.

One of nospam's favorite tricks is to _deflect_ all blame away from Apple.

Like you regularly do? You're *definitely* the authority on deflection.

You can't be smart

Weak insults as usual.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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On 2023-10-13 19:24, Wally J wrote:

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

Like you regularly do? You're *definitely* the authority on deflection.

Hi Jolly Roger,

I've studied you where it's surprising that you haven't directly attacked
me already since that's your _main_ defense against all facts about Apple.
*ATTACK!*
*ATTACK!*
*ATTACK!*
You're _afraid_ of me, Jolly Roger.
*You _fear_ me.*

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

You are a legend in your own mind only.

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Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

Like you regularly do? You're *definitely* the authority on deflection.

Hi Jolly Roger,

I've studied you where it's surprising that you haven't directly attacked
me already since that's your _main_ defense against all facts about Apple.
*ATTACK!*
*ATTACK!*
*ATTACK!*
You're _afraid_ of me, Jolly Roger.
*You _fear_ me.*

Do you even know why?
I do.

Anyway, back to the seven methods nospam used to deflect any thread from
the truth about Apple - one of which was to claim that Samsung made Apple
do it. It's called "whataboutism" and it's a common deflection tactic.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism>

Anyway, even with nospam using all seven deflection tactics all iKooks use,
he was still the smartest of iKooks in terms of his technical knowledge.

Alan Baker and Joerg Lorenz and Bob Campbell and Snit are the dumbest.

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On 2023-10-14, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

Each and every one of us serves a purpose

Yes, and yours is only to disrupt and insult.

iKooks
iKooks
_ashamed_

Point proved. Good work.

--
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

Each and every one of us serves a purpose

Yes, and yours is only to disrupt and insult.

Hi Jolly Roger,

We've both been on this newsgroup for many (many) years Jolly Roger.
As such, we've had quite different roles on this newsgroup, Jolly Roger.

Your role is to fabricate imaginary functionality for iOS, Jolly Roger.
*And my role is to prove you wrong.*

I fully understand why you hate me, and that's because you fear me.
And that's OK because what you fear about me is the truth about Apple.

So be it.
That's my role on this ng.

The iKooks claim, oh, for example, there's an app to spoof the GPS location (where my role & that of Steve & badgolferman - is to check if it's true).

It never is.

We could ask _why_ iKooks incessantly fabricate imaginary functionality.

But we know why.
Don't we.

You're _ashamed_ that iOS can't do what every other OS easily does, JR.
And that's OK.

Your role is to deny all facts you hate about Apple products, Jolly Roger.
*And mine is to prove you wrong.*

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Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

Point proved. Good work.

We each have our respective roles on this child-like Apple newsgroup, JR.
Your role is to prove how ashamed you are of the lack of iOS functionality.
You do that well.

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On 14 Oct 2023 00:13:18 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2023-10-13, Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:

J�rg Lorenz wrote:

Am 13.10.23 um 01:21 schrieb Hank Rogers:

badgolferman wrote:

I miss nospam.� Even though some of the things he says are
annoying, at least he is usually helpful and knows something about
iOS. And he's a big part of this group so his missing presence is
noted. Has anyone seen him on other newsgroups?� Anyone able to
check up on him?� One of our friends from another group went dark
and we found out they were in the hospital so that's why I'm
asking.

When you find yourself missing nospam, just relax for a moment.
Take a deep breath and THINK.

Think of his good sayings ... Like:� Not needed and not wanted.
Apple perfect. everyone is a troll.

You certainly are. You never posted anything constructive or helpful.

Don't worry. He'll be back.

How would you know?

Praise Steve blowjobs (PBUH).

Amen.

You are a bigot and braindead Troll!

Jughead, I thought you killfiled me a long time ago.

Nothing you can say will remove your own bigoted words from history,
bigot.

If nospam is still alive he won't be able to resist this in the news today. https://www.androidpolice.com/face-unlock-google-pixel-8-tricked-already/

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