On 2023-11-19 14:01, Wally J wrote:
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote
You would think they'd go 頎柬綄頎柬綄頎柬綄 over their Android phones not having an
AM radio built in - that's much more useful in an emergency as the
transmission range is typically higher - notably at night.
Of course real preppers have real emergency radio receivers that cover
several bands, have long lasting batteries and can be charged with the
built in crank.
Many preppers have transmitters too.
Oh my! Did you see what I wrote there?
The Android phones can't transmit on radio frequencies other than the
built in cell co/WiFi/Blutooth! How will they survive when the SHTF!?!? >>>
(It occurs to me that flat earthers are more cohernent than Wally).
On the basis of logic alone, no amount of MARKETING is going to convince an >> intelligent person how "courageous" only Apple claims it is, for them to
remove basic functional hardware - whose loss is what cripples the iPhone. >>
How many _thousands_ of Israeli civilians who were inside their
safe rooms and hiding under beds in bedrooms and even some hiding inside
kitchen cabinets for half a day were there who would have given anything
for an FM radio in addition to that almost worthless iPhone without it.
Riiiiiiiight.
FM radio one-way communication is so much better than the two-way communication offered by every smartphone...
On 2023-11-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-11-19 14:01, Wally J wrote:
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote
You would think they'd go 頎柬綄頎柬綄頎柬綄 over their Android phones not having an
AM radio built in - that's much more useful in an emergency as the
transmission range is typically higher - notably at night.
Of course real preppers have real emergency radio receivers that cover >>>> several bands, have long lasting batteries and can be charged with the >>>> built in crank.
Many preppers have transmitters too.
Oh my! Did you see what I wrote there?
The Android phones can't transmit on radio frequencies other than the
built in cell co/WiFi/Blutooth! How will they survive when the SHTF!?!? >>>>
(It occurs to me that flat earthers are more cohernent than Wally).
On the basis of logic alone, no amount of MARKETING is going to convince an >>> intelligent person how "courageous" only Apple claims it is, for them to >>> remove basic functional hardware - whose loss is what cripples the iPhone. >>>
How many _thousands_ of Israeli civilians who were inside their
safe rooms and hiding under beds in bedrooms and even some hiding inside >>> kitchen cabinets for half a day were there who would have given anything >>> for an FM radio in addition to that almost worthless iPhone without it.
Riiiiiiiight.
FM radio one-way communication is so much better than the two-way
communication offered by every smartphone...
Hey, this is getting fun. Keep it up guys. I think Warlen's head is
close to imploding.
On 11/22/2023 2:34 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 14:27, John wrote:More lies. The iphone DOES NOT support lossless music because it has
On 11/22/2023 1:54 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 13:02, John wrote:
On 11/22/2023 12:57 PM, John wrote:
On 11/19/2023 7:33 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-19 18:09, John wrote:
On 11/17/2023 4:06 PM, Wally J wrote:
If this doesn't convince you the iPhone is crippled, nothing >>>>>>>>> will...
a. AUX Jacks are 75% of Android models; *0% choice for iPhones* >>>>>>>>> b. FM Radio is 50% of Android models; *0% choice for iPhones* >>>>>>>>> c. Portable memory is 71% of Android models; *0% choice for
iPhones*
Given nobody sensible would claim a phone without the AUX jack >>>>>>>>> is more
functional than a phone without it (as without it, the phone is >>>>>>>>> less
functional by definition)...
And given nobody sensible would claim an FM radio isn't an
important safety
feature in a phone during an emergency...
Nor would anyone who understands the power of portable memory >>>>>>>>> disagree that
it's a very handy way to privately move data between devices... >>>>>>>>>
Of the total of 2,548 Android models offered for sale from 2019 >>>>>>>>> to today...
<https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2019&sAvailabilities=1,2&sOSes=2>
For the AUX jack, 1,907 (75%) of current Android models meet >>>>>>>>> this standard.
<https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2019&chk35mm=selected&sAvailabilities=1,2&sOSes=2>
As for FM Radio, 1,257 Androids (50%) have the FM radio
emergency feature.
<https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2019&chkFMradio=selected&sAvailabilities=1,2&sOSes=2>
Where 1,163 (46%) have both the emergency FM radio & the
standard AUX jack.
<https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2019&chk35mm=selected&chkFMradio=selected&sAvailabilities=1,2&sOSes=2>
Let's look at the 1,801 (71%) with the all-important
portable-memory slot.
<https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2019&sAvailabilities=1,2&sOSes=2&idCardslot=1>
But only 112 with a removable battery, which is less than 5% >>>>>>>>> unfortunately.
<https://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3?nYearMin=2019&sAvailabilities=1,2&sOSes=2&idBatRemovable=1>
Compare those choices Android users have to those of the poor >>>>>>>>> Apple user.
AUX
<https://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3?nYearMin=2019&chk35mm=selected&sAvailabilities=1,2&sOSes=3>
FM
<https://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3?nYearMin=2019&chkFMradio=selected&sAvailabilities=1,2&sOSes=3>
SD
<https://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3?nYearMin=2019&chkFMradio=selected&sAvailabilities=1,2&sOSes=3&idCardslot=1>
In summary, the choices for Android are:
a. 75% AUX
b. 50% FM Radio
c. 71% SD SLOT
That's a _lot_ of choices (especially compared to Apple choices): >>>>>>>>> a. 0% AUX
b. 0% FM Radio
c. 0% SD SLOT
The lack of basic hardware functionality on iPhones is yet
another reason
why anyone claiming to "compare" the two platforms, has to ignore >>>>>>>>> everything that makes a phone useful - as the iPhone lacks basic >>>>>>>>> hardware.
One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio
codecs. Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits >>>>>>>> but iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not support it. Therefore >>>>>>>> you have to buy an Android Phone or Android based music player to >>>>>>>> get the best music high fidelity off of Apple Music. There is a >>>>>>>> legitimate gripe with Apple from an Apple fan.
Bzzzzzzt.
'Lossless compression is a form of compression that preserves all >>>>>>> of the original data. Apple has developed its own lossless audio >>>>>>> compression technology called Apple Lossless Audio Codec (ALAC). >>>>>>> The entire Apple Music catalog is encoded using ALAC in
resolutions ranging from 16-bit/44.1 kHz (CD Quality) up to
24-bit/192 kHz.'
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iph14e213417/ios>
You were saying?
I am saying you are as technically incompetent as ever. Apple
devices like iPhone 15 do not support codecs like AptxHD which ARE >>>>>> REQUIRED for maximum performance with headphones while playing back >>>>>> 192/24 bit ALAC which Apple Music provides. My FIIO player does
support that with Apple Music and sounds a lot fucking better. A lot. >>>>>
Further more intelligent people realize the bluetooth codec Apple
uses to connect to its devices is just plain crude. Airpods Max do >>>>> not support AptXHD or other advanced codecs and sound like crap
compared to capable headphones like B and W PX8s. Its obvious Alan >>>>> has absolutely ZERO audio background.
Your claim was that:
'Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but iPhone
15 Pro and other models do not support it.'
And nothing you've replied with supports that claim, whereas my quote
utterly refutes it.
You are an idiot. I am referring to the ability to get lossless
support to the headphones.
Then you should have said that.
Apple codecs do NOT support transfer of lossless. Apple provides
only a crude bluetooth capability. To get true high fidelity to the
headphones requires AptX HD or something better OTHER than Apples
Bluetooth. My FIIO player can take the lossless 192/24 bit from Apple
Music and get it LOSSLESSLY to the the headphones. Which are
something other than Apple products which do not support it.
So when you said that the IPHONE did not support 192/24 lossless...
...you were just wrong...
...twice.
Once for making the claim.
Again, for not clearly stating what you now claim you meant.
no way to get audio to the headphones by something other than lossy bluetooth.
On 2023-11-22, John <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
More lies. The iphone DOES NOT support lossless music because it has
no way to get audio to the headphones by something other than lossy
bluetooth.
Golly gosh, I am a lucky man. My 75-year-old ears don't give a damn that
I downsample all audio sent to my iPhone and listen with $15 no-name Bluetooth earbuds.
On 2023-11-22 18:09, Chris Schram wrote:
On 2023-11-22, John <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
More lies. The iphone DOES NOT support lossless music
because it has
no way to get audio to the headphones by something other
than lossy
bluetooth.
Golly gosh, I am a lucky man. My 75-year-old ears don't give
a damn that
I downsample all audio sent to my iPhone and listen with $15
no-name
Bluetooth earbuds.
Audiophoole's have more money than hearing dynamic range and
frequency sensitivity - why when they spend money on gear they
defend it like hell.
Audiophoole's have more money than hearing dynamic range and
frequency sensitivity - why when they spend money on gear they
defend it like hell.
Hmmm, that behavior sure sounds familiar.
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