Microsoft reported its fifth consecutive quarter of record
revenue
On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 12:51:57 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote:
Microsoft reported its fifth consecutive quarter of record
revenue
The main reason Windows dominates is it can do anything you need it to do. It's the same reason that Android dominates over the iPhone world wide too.
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote
Patrick <patrick@oleary.com> wrote
badgolferman wrote
Microsoft reported its fifth consecutive quarter of record
revenue
The main reason Windows dominates is it can do anything you
need it to do. It's the same reason that Android dominates
over the iPhone world wide too.
This has got nothing to do with the consumer space. Microsoft are
making huge amounts of money from their cloud and AI products.
Do you have a breakdown of their revenue by sector ?
badgolferman wrote
Microsoft reported its fifth consecutive quarter of record
revenue
The main reason Windows dominates is it can do anything you
need it to do.
It's the same reason that Android dominates over the iPhone world wide too.
It's the same reason that Android dominates over the iPhone world wide too.
Android is barely any better than Windoze.
I'd assume that revenue from their X-Box and gaming market are
contributory factors too.
The problem with Windoze is that it can't do ANYTHING. It's a horrible, useless, slow, messy, knock-off of the MacOS ...
On Tuesday, Microsoft reported its fifth consecutive quarter of record revenue, booking $62 billion in sales, and just last week its market capitalization — the total value of all of its shares put together — surpassed $3 trillion, making it the most valuable company in the world.
It has even leapfrogged Apple, which has long held onto the crown of
biggest tech giant in the world, churning out sleek iPhones and finding new ways to charge its customers monthly subscriptions for services.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/microsoft-is-back-how-ai-put-the-five-decade-old-tech-giant-on-top-again/ar-BB1hwBCQ
Your Name wrote:
The problem with Windoze is that it can't do ANYTHING. It's a
horrible, useless, slow, messy, knock-off of the MacOS ... always has
been, always will be. Microsoft cannot and have not ever made
anything themselves - they buy out, copy, or steal everything they
make, and then make it much worse.
Your incredible bias against anything Apple is on full display. Don't
you get tired of being wrong so often? Maybe Arlen is right about
you...
Most people detest using Windoze, Word, etc. and only do so because
they're forced to by work where the management blindly decided to go
with the cheap Microsloth option, and have been paying the price ever
since.
Most people who change to Apple never go back to Windoze.
Your Name wrote:
On 2024-02-03 13:22:30 +0000, badgolferman said:
Your Name wrote:
The problem with Windoze is that it can't do ANYTHING. It's a
horrible, useless, slow, messy, knock-off of the MacOS ... always
has been, always will be. Microsoft cannot and have not ever made
anything themselves - they buy out, copy, or steal everything they
make, and then make it much worse.
Your incredible bias against anything Apple is on full display.
Don't you get tired of being wrong so often? Maybe Arlen is right
about you...
Most people detest using Windoze, Word, etc. and only do so because
they're forced to by work where the management blindly decided to go
with the cheap Microsloth option, and have been paying the price ever
since.
Most people who change to Apple never go back to Windoze.
"Most"...
Care to cite that with statistics other than your own fantasies?
Alan wrote:
On 2024-01-31 04:51, badgolferman wrote:
On Tuesday, Microsoft reported its fifth consecutive quarter of
record revenue, booking $62 billion in sales, and just last week
its market capitalization — the total value of all of its shares
put together — surpassed $3 trillion, making it the most valuable
company in the world.
It has even leapfrogged Apple, which has long held onto the crown of
biggest tech giant in the world, churning out sleek iPhones and
finding new ways to charge its customers monthly subscriptions for
services.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/microsoft-is-back-how-ai-put-the-five-decade-old-tech-giant-on-top-again/ar-BB1hwBCQ
And why would anyone care?
Purchase MSFT rather than AAPL. Your money will be worth more.
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-02-03 12:17, badgolferman wrote:
Your Name wrote:
On 2024-02-03 13:22:30 +0000, badgolferman said:
Your Name wrote:
The problem with Windoze is that it can't do ANYTHING. It's a
horrible, useless, slow, messy, knock-off of the MacOS ... always
has been, always will be. Microsoft cannot and have not ever made
anything themselves - they buy out, copy, or steal everything they >>>>>> make, and then make it much worse.
Your incredible bias against anything Apple is on full display.
Don't you get tired of being wrong so often? Maybe Arlen is right
about you...
Most people detest using Windoze, Word, etc. and only do so because
they're forced to by work where the management blindly decided to go
with the cheap Microsloth option, and have been paying the price ever
since.
Most people who change to Apple never go back to Windoze.
"Most"...
Care to cite that with statistics other than your own fantasies?
I've spent more than 30 years working with, selling, and—for the last 20 >> plus years—supporting Macs and PCs.
In all the time I've done so, I've run into two (yes: literally two)
people who, having switched from Windows to Mac, wanted to switch back.
In theory, my current gig as technical support for individuals and small
business encompasses by Mac users and Windows users...
...it's just that almost all the support I actually do is for my Windows
using clients.
Anecdotal evidence is easy to provide, I can do the same and provide lots
of examples from my work to refute what you say.
On 2024-02-03 19:42, badgolferman wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-02-03 12:17, badgolferman wrote:
Your Name wrote:
On 2024-02-03 13:22:30 +0000, badgolferman said:
Your Name wrote:
The problem with Windoze is that it can't do ANYTHING. It's a
horrible, useless, slow, messy, knock-off of the MacOS ... always >>>>>>> has been, always will be. Microsoft cannot and have not ever made >>>>>>> anything themselves - they buy out, copy, or steal everything they >>>>>>> make, and then make it much worse.
Your incredible bias against anything Apple is on full display.
Don't you get tired of being wrong so often? Maybe Arlen is right >>>>>> about you...
Most people detest using Windoze, Word, etc. and only do so because
they're forced to by work where the management blindly decided to go >>>>> with the cheap Microsloth option, and have been paying the price ever >>>>> since.
Most people who change to Apple never go back to Windoze.
"Most"...
Care to cite that with statistics other than your own fantasies?
I've spent more than 30 years working with, selling, and—for the last 20 >>> plus years—supporting Macs and PCs.
In all the time I've done so, I've run into two (yes: literally two)
people who, having switched from Windows to Mac, wanted to switch back.
In theory, my current gig as technical support for individuals and small >>> business encompasses by Mac users and Windows users...
...it's just that almost all the support I actually do is for my Windows >>> using clients.
Anecdotal evidence is easy to provide, I can do the same and provide lots
of examples from my work to refute what you say.
30 years of widely varying experience is a lot more than simply "anecdotal".
Your Name wrote:
On 2024-02-03 13:22:30 +0000, badgolferman said:
Your Name wrote:
The problem with Windoze is that it can't do ANYTHING. It's a
horrible, useless, slow, messy, knock-off of the MacOS ... always
has been, always will be. Microsoft cannot and have not ever made
anything themselves - they buy out, copy, or steal everything they
make, and then make it much worse.
Your incredible bias against anything Apple is on full display.
Don't you get tired of being wrong so often? Maybe Arlen is right
about you...
Most people detest using Windoze, Word, etc. and only do so because
they're forced to by work where the management blindly decided to go
with the cheap Microsloth option, and have been paying the price ever
since.
Most people who change to Apple never go back to Windoze.
"Most"...
Care to cite that with statistics other than your own fantasies?
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-02-03 19:42, badgolferman wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-02-03 12:17, badgolferman wrote:
Your Name wrote:
On 2024-02-03 13:22:30 +0000, badgolferman said:
Your Name wrote:
The problem with Windoze is that it can't do ANYTHING. It's a
horrible, useless, slow, messy, knock-off of the MacOS ... always >>>>>>>> has been, always will be. Microsoft cannot and have not ever made >>>>>>>> anything themselves - they buy out, copy, or steal everything they >>>>>>>> make, and then make it much worse.
Your incredible bias against anything Apple is on full display.
Don't you get tired of being wrong so often? Maybe Arlen is right >>>>>>> about you...
Most people detest using Windoze, Word, etc. and only do so because >>>>>> they're forced to by work where the management blindly decided to go >>>>>> with the cheap Microsloth option, and have been paying the price ever >>>>>> since.
Most people who change to Apple never go back to Windoze.
"Most"...
Care to cite that with statistics other than your own fantasies?
I've spent more than 30 years working with, selling, and—for the last 20 >>>> plus years—supporting Macs and PCs.
In all the time I've done so, I've run into two (yes: literally two)
people who, having switched from Windows to Mac, wanted to switch back. >>>>
In theory, my current gig as technical support for individuals and small >>>> business encompasses by Mac users and Windows users...
...it's just that almost all the support I actually do is for my Windows >>>> using clients.
Anecdotal evidence is easy to provide, I can do the same and provide lots >>> of examples from my work to refute what you say.
30 years of widely varying experience is a lot more than simply "anecdotal". >>
I think we’ve been through this before, but I will also give my experience.
Where I work we have Mac, Linux, Windows. We also have Linux and Windows servers.
Nearly all the management, administrative staff, and some scientists/researchers use Macs. Nearly all technical engineers use
Windows. Nearly all computer administrators use Linux or Windows.
The people who use Macs write documents, spreadsheets, presentations,
emails, (using Office 365) and use the web. The very few who actually do technical work use telnet windows to the Linux servers and use scripts to
run batch jobs.
All the engineers who actually have to create things and perform technical work use Windows. Some of that is because their programs only run under Windows and most of it is because they much prefer it.
I don’t see many people clamoring to change their OS regardless of which one they settled on. They very easily could because we have support staff
who manage all systems and it’s easy to switch. Having spoken to our division support staff, they tell me the vast majority of refreshed systems are Windows. That means every three years when we are forced to replace our computers, they are the ones who perform data and profile transfers. I
think they know which OS is the most popular.
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-02-03 19:42, badgolferman wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-02-03 12:17, badgolferman wrote:Anecdotal evidence is easy to provide, I can do the same and provide
Your Name wrote:
Most people who change to Apple never go back to Windoze.
"Most"...
Care to cite that with statistics other than your own fantasies?
I've spent more than 30 years working with, selling, and—for the
last 20 plus years—supporting Macs and PCs.
In all the time I've done so, I've run into two (yes: literally
two) people who, having switched from Windows to Mac, wanted to
switch back.
lots of examples from my work to refute what you say.
30 years of widely varying experience is a lot more than simply
"anecdotal".
I don’t see many people clamoring to change their OS regardless of
which one they settled on. They very easily could because we have
support staff who manage all systems and it’s easy to switch. Having
spoken to our division support staff, they tell me the vast majority
of refreshed systems are Windows. That means every three years when we
are forced to replace our computers, they are the ones who perform
data and profile transfers. I think they know which OS is the most
popular.
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
On 2024-02-03 20:17:42 +0000, badgolferman said:
Your Name wrote:
On 2024-02-03 13:22:30 +0000, badgolferman said:
Your Name wrote:
The problem with Windoze is that it can't do ANYTHING. It's a
horrible, useless, slow, messy, knock-off of the MacOS ... always
has been, always will be. Microsoft cannot and have not ever made
anything themselves - they buy out, copy, or steal everything they >>>>>> make, and then make it much worse.
Your incredible bias against anything Apple is on full display.
Don't you get tired of being wrong so often? Maybe Arlen is right
about you...
Most people detest using Windoze, Word, etc. and only do so because
they're forced to by work where the management blindly decided to go
with the cheap Microsloth option, and have been paying the price ever
since.
Most people who change to Apple never go back to Windoze.
"Most"...
Care to cite that with statistics other than your own fantasies?
There are studies, surveys, polls, etc. all over the internet ... take
your pick of any of them. Here's just one example of the many:
New Research Finds 71% of Students in Higher Education Today
Use, or Would Prefer to Use, Mac
<https://www.jamf.com/resources/press-releases/new-research-finds-71-of-students-in-higher-education-today-use-or-would-prefer-to-use-mac/>
Even my own observation from decades of computer work and support has
shown it to be true. In fact, as one example, someone I help recently
decided to buy a new laptop to replace their aging iMac, which itself
replaced an old Windoze laptop 15 years ago. They decided (against my
advice) to buy an Lenovo Windoze laptop ... within a week it was dumped
and a MacBook Pro purchased intstead.
Notwithstanding the fact that students tend to be given Macs at schools and are used to them, my opinion is people prefer what they start out with. The same holds true for mobile devices. It’s the rare individual who adapts to use multiple devices and recognizes the strengths and weaknesses of
different types of systems.
As I said before, my experience at work has been the technical people
prefer Windows and the administrative people prefer Macs. Even then the Mac users still use Microsoft products (Office) to perform their work.
Alan wrote:
On 2024-01-31 04:51, badgolferman wrote:
On Tuesday, Microsoft reported its fifth consecutive quarter of
record revenue, booking $62 billion in sales, and just last week
its market capitalization — the total value of all of its shares
put together — surpassed $3 trillion, making it the most
valuable company in the world.
It has even leapfrogged Apple, which has long held onto the
crown of biggest tech giant in the world, churning out sleek
iPhones and finding new ways to charge its customers monthly subscriptions for services.
And why would anyone care?
Purchase MSFT rather than AAPL. Your money will be worth more.
On Sun, 04 Feb 2024 14:08:15 +1100, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-02-03 12:06, badgolferman wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2024-01-31 04:51, badgolferman wrote:Purchase MSFT rather than AAPL. Your money will be worth more.
On Tuesday, Microsoft reported its fifth consecutive quarter of
record revenue, booking $62 billion in sales, and just last week
its market capitalization — the total value of all of its shares
put together — surpassed $3 trillion, making it the most valuable
company in the world.
It has even leapfrogged Apple, which has long held onto the crown
of biggest tech giant in the world, churning out sleek iPhones and
finding new ways to charge its customers monthly subscriptions for
services.
And why would anyone care?
That might be true... ...at the moment.
But current results are no guarantee of future gains.
Yes, but it is clear that apple has a real problem now that the iphone
and ipad market is very saturated now with it difficult to find
anything new to add to new devices.
I don’t see many people clamoring to change their OS regardless of which one they settled on. They very easily could because we have support staff
who manage all systems and it’s easy to switch. Having spoken to our division support staff, they tell me the vast majority of refreshed systems are Windows. That means every three years when we are forced to replace our computers, they are the ones who perform data and profile transfers. I
think they know which OS is the most popular.
On 2024-02-04, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
I don’t see many people clamoring to change their OS regardless of which >> one they settled on. They very easily could because we have support staff
who manage all systems and it’s easy to switch. Having spoken to our
division support staff, they tell me the vast majority of refreshed systems >> are Windows. That means every three years when we are forced to replace our >> computers, they are the ones who perform data and profile transfers. I
think they know which OS is the most popular.
The great majority of people do not want to change from the O/S that
they're familiar with. Companies buy Windows machines because that's
what they've always used. IBM got the companies started with Microsoft,
and when the employees bought a computer for themselves, they chose
Microsoft O/S, because that's what they were familiar with.
Independent developers developed their specialty software for the
vast majority of companies that had bought into Microsoft. Computer
companies made cheap hardware to accommodate Microsoft O/S.
My boss bought Apple. I familiarized myself with Linux in the Nineties,
but when OS X came out, why bother with Linux?
iPhones brought Apple to the masses. A percentage of the masses are
seeing the benefits of Apple products. That's good.
I like that Windows is the O/S of most companies and the majority of
ordinary users. Malware keys on them, because that's where the money is.
To each, their own.
On 2024-02-04 20:15, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
On 2024-02-04, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
I don’t see many people clamoring to change their OS regardless of which >>> one they settled on. They very easily could because we have support
staff
who manage all systems and it’s easy to switch. Having spoken to our
division support staff, they tell me the vast majority of refreshed
systems
are Windows. That means every three years when we are forced to
replace our
computers, they are the ones who perform data and profile transfers. I
think they know which OS is the most popular.
The great majority of people do not want to change from the O/S that
they're familiar with. Companies buy Windows machines because that's
what they've always used. IBM got the companies started with Microsoft,
and when the employees bought a computer for themselves, they chose
Microsoft O/S, because that's what they were familiar with.
Independent developers developed their specialty software for the
vast majority of companies that had bought into Microsoft. Computer
companies made cheap hardware to accommodate Microsoft O/S.
My boss bought Apple. I familiarized myself with Linux in the Nineties,
but when OS X came out, why bother with Linux?
iPhones brought Apple to the masses. A percentage of the masses are
seeing the benefits of Apple products. That's good.
I like that Windows is the O/S of most companies and the majority of
ordinary users. Malware keys on them, because that's where the money is.
To each, their own.
I gave Linux a serious try as a home computer back in the early 2000's.
It was adventuresome as installing some apps was easy as pie and some
was fraught with misadventure. Configuring hardware could be a bear in
some cases.
Of course the apps I needed to integrate well with the rest of the
world, and photography, did not exist at all.
So abandoned Linux at that time.
MS came out with Vista just when I was looking to replace my old
computer (or its motherboard). It was on its 3rd motherboard at the time.
Vista was a wreck out of the gate and I would be in a hardware
compatibility hole for quite a while as things caught up...
Looked up the specs on iMac and bought the top end (of the day) Core Duo machine. Sold it for near $1000 5 years later and bought an i7 (quad-core-hyper threading) in 2013 (2012 model, refurbished by Apple).
It is still working here now as a side computer 11 years later. Aside
from graphics performance (to today's expectations), it is still a
beast. (It also hosts WinXP, Windows 10 and Linux under Fusion if I
need them).
New iMac M3 is very, very good. Just wish the spec had allowed more
memory and a "pro" (more cores) processor. The display is exceptional.
At my company, we're baseline Apple, but Windows is used in a couple
narrow cases - though 2024 has us transition the accounting out of
Windows and onto a web-based platform. (I don't like this move, but
it's the best overall).
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