• Re: CarPlay recommendation? Ooops - big error. Re-compute follows

    From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Wed Feb 28 19:14:27 2024
    On 2024-02-28 19:01, Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2024-02-28 16:14, Alan wrote:

    Do...

    ...the...

    ...math.

    Screwed up big time. All of the figures in my calculation were for:

    An average of 1% of charge difference (151 joules). And I omitted this
    from the computation

    Therefore. Given a charge range change of (say) 30% for a drive to and
    from work:

    the 9,269,000 Kg of CO2 emitted because of wireless charging SHOULD have
    been 30X higher:

    278,070,000 Kg of CO2 per year for the case as presented below.

    And again: that's for 30% of charging.


    Sure - based on my own testing in 2021.  Anker pad v. Apple 12W charger+wire.

    iPhone 11 from 20% to 74% charge: 34225 joules (W-s) using charger and wire

    iPhone 11 from 24% to 77% charge: 41626 joules (w-s) using same Anker wireless charger and phone carefully centred on the charger (better than ±1mm in X and Y).  Data below.

    THAT IS:

    634 joules per percent of change (average) wired.

    v.

    785 joules / percent of change (average) wireless (without a case -
    which would have made it worse).

    So it took 23% more energy to charge the battery over the easiest range
    of about 20 - 75%.

    So, if one does that 200 times per year (going to work), that comes to:

    151 joules * 200 days * 1B people = 30.2E12 joules.

    FOR A 1% AVERAGE AMOUNT OF CHARGE... *doh*


    or 8.39 GWh lost to heat in wireless charging.

    Gas engines are (at cruise) about 30% efficient, so now we're at:

    28 GWh worth of gasoline ...

    Until you consider the efficiency of the alternator, put at 70 to 80% by various sources.  I'll use 75%:

    =37.3 GWh worth of gasoline. @ 12.78 kWh/Kg of gasoline...

    =2,917,000 Kg of gasoline used (for no good reason);

    1 Kg of gasoline reacted with 14.7 Kg of air = 3.18 Kg of CO2 emitted

    =9,269,000 Kg of CO2 emitted because of wireless charging.

    Scale as you like.  But it's clear that avoiding millions of Kg of CO2 emissions per year is better than putting it out there.

    Esp. as it lingers for 20 - 50 years or more.

    Test data.
    ===============
    2021-11-30        iPad 12W charger
    iPhone 11 Pro    Wired charge
    Power(W)Start    End    Dt    Energy (Ws)
    13.9    20%    25%    4.16    minutes    3475
    13.9    25%    31%    5    minutes    4170
    13.9    31%    37%    5    minutes    4170
    13.9    37%    43%    5    minutes    4170
    12.2    43%    50%    5    minutes    3660
    11.8    50%    56%    5    minutes    3540
    12    56%    61%    5    minutes    3600
    11.8    61%    67%    5    minutes    3540
    6.5    67%    74%    10    minutes    3900
                        34225
    ===============

    2021-12-03        iPad 12 W charger
    iPhone 11 Pro         Anker pad         No case (bare metal to charger)
    Power(W)Start    End    Dt    Energy (Ws)
    6.1    24%    28%    7.75    minutes    2836.5
    6.1    28%    34%    15    minutes    5490
    6.1    34%    41%    15    minutes    5490
    6.1    41%    49%    15    minutes    5490
    6.2    49%    56%    15    minutes    5580
    6.2    56%    63%    15    minutes    5580
    6.2    63%    70%    15    minutes    5580
    6.2    70%    77%    15    minutes    5580



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