• Re: editing photo filenames

    From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to Chris on Mon Apr 29 19:32:46 2024
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
    Is there a way to edit the photo filename while still on the iPhone? When
    sending someone pictures it would be helpful to have a descriptive name
    than a generic date/time name.

    Yes. Save it to Files which will prompt you for file name. Then you can
    share it from directly from Files.

    You might want to save it to Files to begin with to convert it out of incompatible HEIC if your camera is still defaulted to that PITA.

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Tue Apr 30 03:08:06 2024
    badgolferman wrote on Mon, 29 Apr 2024 13:49:33 -0000 (UTC) :

    Is there a way to edit the photo filename while still on the iPhone? When sending someone pictures it would be helpful to have a descriptive name
    than a generic date/time name.

    I see you were able to find a workaround to the ancient naming conventions
    from a decades ago that Apple still uses when saving to the file system.

    To help you (and others) understand how iOS works, below are three screenshots I just made for you (for this thread) - the 1st being for an iPad, the 2nd
    for an iPhone, & the 3rd for an Android device (connected by USB to Windows).

    1. This is my screenshot showing how one of my iPads stores photos:
    <https://i.postimg.cc/RVdVKS8q/Apple-Ipad.jpg>
    This PC > Apple iPad > Internal Storage > DCIM > 202303_ > IMG_2753_AAE
    This PC > Apple iPad > Internal Storage > DCIM > 202303_ > IMG_2753_PNG
    This PC > Apple iPad > Internal Storage > DCIM > 202303_ > IMG_E2753.JPG

    2. This is my screenshot showing how one of my iPhones stores photos:
    <https://i.postimg.cc/PJ4hWyS0/Apple-Iphone.jpg>
    This PC > Apple iPhone > Internal Storage > DCIM > 100APPLE > IMG0053.JPG

    3. This is my screenshot showing how one of my Androids stores photos:
    <https://i.postimg.cc/zfgrt8dC/Samsung.jpg>
    This PC > Galaxy A32 5G > SD1 > DCIM > Camera > 20240428_083005.jpg

    Note: Android camera apps usually have customizable settings which
    determine what the file name will be (these are Samsung defaults).
    Also note Android typically saves the images to the portable
    memory card which, unfortunately, no iOS device is capable of doing.

    Also note the Android file system for DCIM is read and write.
    The iOS file system for DCIM is read only (and extremely limited).

    Which of the DCIM file systems do you think is better engineered for users?

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Tue Apr 30 18:04:06 2024
    badgolferman wrote on Tue, 30 Apr 2024 12:22:13 -0000 (UTC) :

    Which of the DCIM file systems do you think is better engineered for
    users?

    As far as I'm concerned, Windows is by far the most user-friendly
    operating system. They tried porting that over to the Windows Phone
    but unfortunately it didn't work out. Incidentally, my wife had a
    Windows Phone and she loved it.

    Windows is user friendly to me also, and far more so than Linux is, but
    that may simply be that I've been using both for a few decades now.

    As for the Windows phone, I never owned one, but I did have all the phones prior, such as the pull-out-antenna flip phones and the button dial phones
    and the Kyocera "smart" phones and the blackberry before I bought my first iPads, iPhones, tablets and Android phones.

    Android has many open source apps for taking photos which are superior to anything Apple can offer because Apple limits you to one design team.

    That Apple limits users to the way a single design team operates is
    probably one of teh major reasons Apple is still using decades-old
    technology and naming conventions for their camera apps.

    Literally, Apple is using the technology that SLRs used when they first
    went digital decades agao - and Apple never bothered to improve that.

    This is why you see in my screenshots an arcane primitive naming
    conventions of absurdly named Apple101 folders and IMG_2753_PNG files.

    <https://i.postimg.cc/RVdVKS8q/Apple-Ipad.jpg>
    <https://i.postimg.cc/PJ4hWyS0/Apple-Iphone.jpg>

    When you compare Apple's absurdly primitive naming conventions, you realize instantly the pitfalls and foibles of entrusting everything to a single
    design team which doesn't have any internal competition.

    Had Apple users been allowed the luxury of competition in camera apps, the ridiculously primitive ancient naming conventions would be gone long ago.

    Had there been camera-app competition, you could name your photos any way
    you'd like to name them, such as how Samsung names then out of the box.

    <https://i.postimg.cc/zfgrt8dC/Samsung.jpg>]

    By default, Samsung names the files by the date and the time.
    20240428_083005.jpg (taken at 8:30:05am on April 28, 2024)

    What do you think about my observation that because there is no competition
    for Apple camera apps, and because there is intense competition for Android camera apps (such as the Google GCam camera app), the Apple camera apps are twenty years behind Android in basic functionality?

    To further show how the Apple camera app is decades behind Android in functionality, just look at what the free ad free open source apps do.
    <https://sourceforge.net/projects/opencamera/>
    <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera>
    <https://f-droid.org/en/packages/net.sourceforge.opencamera/>

    Features
    Option to auto-level so your pictures are perfectly level no matter what.
    Expose your camera's functionality: support for scene modes,
    color effects, white balance, ISO, exposure compensation/lock,
    selfie with "screen flash", HD video and more.
    Handy remote controls: timer (with optional voice countdown),
    auto-repeat mode (with configurable delay).
    Option to take photo remotely by making a noise.
    Configurable volume keys and user interface.
    Upside-down preview option for use with attachable lenses.
    Overlay a choice of grids and crop guides.
    Optional GPS location tagging (geotagging) of photos and videos;
    for photos this includes compass direction
    (GPSImgDirection, GPSImgDirectionRef).
    Apply date and timestamp, location coordinates, and custom text
    to photos; store date/time and location as video subtitles (.SRT).
    Option to remove device exif metadata from photos.
    Panorama, including for front camera.
    Support for HDR (with auto-alignment and ghost removal)
    and Exposure Bracketing.
    Support for Camera2 API: manual controls (with optional focus assist);
    burst mode; RAW (DNG) files; camera vendor extensions; slow motion video;
    log profile video.
    Noise reduction (including low light night mode) and Dynamic range
    optimisation modes.
    Options for on-screen histogram, zebra stripes, focus peaking.
    Focus bracketing mode.
    Completely free, and no ads in the app.
    Open Source.

    If there was competition in Apple camera apps, then the Apple design team
    who is probably not even a single person anymore, would have pressure on
    them to make the ridiculously primitive Apple camera app better.

    What do you think of my argument (see above) that with competition (for
    Android camera apps), the consumers get better functionality in the end.

    And what do you think of my argument that, since there isn't any
    competition for the Apple camera app, that Apple camera app ends up being absurdly primitive in its almost complete lack of modern functionality.

    The consumer is the loser.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Wed May 1 09:55:43 2024
    On 2024-04-30 12:22:13 +0000, badgolferman said:
    Andrew wrote:

    Which of the DCIM file systems do you think is better engineered for
    users?

    As far as I'm concerned, Windows is by far the most user-friendly
    operating system. They tried porting that over to the Windows Phone
    but unfortunately it didn't work out. Incidentally, my wife had a
    Windows Phone and she loved it.

    Windows is the geek/tech-friendly operating system because they have to continually muck about so much to get anything to actually work.

    MacOS is the user friendly operating system that suffers far fewer
    issues. (Hence the old story about company tech departments not liking
    Macs because it gave them nothing to do, potentially putting some out
    of a job.)

    For proof, see the install instructions for pretty much any printer (or
    any other hardware add-on). The Windows instructions almost always take
    up far more space and are more complicated than the MacOS instructions.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Wed May 1 11:42:57 2024
    On 2024-04-30 22:22:23 +0000, badgolferman said:
    Your Name wrote:
    On 2024-04-30 12:22:13 +0000, badgolferman said:
    Andrew wrote:

    Which of the DCIM file systems do you think is better engineered
    for users?

    As far as I'm concerned, Windows is by far the most user-friendly
    operating system. They tried porting that over to the Windows Phone
    but unfortunately it didn't work out. Incidentally, my wife had a
    Windows Phone and she loved it.

    Windows is the geek/tech-friendly operating system because they have
    to continually muck about so much to get anything to actually work.

    MacOS is the user friendly operating system that suffers far fewer
    issues. (Hence the old story about company tech departments not
    liking Macs because it gave them nothing to do, potentially putting
    some out of a job.)

    For proof, see the install instructions for pretty much any printer
    (or any other hardware add-on). The Windows instructions almost
    always take up far more space and are more complicated than the MacOS
    instructions.

    It's obvious you haven't used Windows in quite some time. Printer installations are Plug and Play these days.

    Not according to the instruction sheets they aren't. Not to mention the
    umeous issues people have getting them to work properly. :-)



    At my job we have Windows, Linux and Macs. The IT guys are working on
    Macs far more than Windows computers. They used to specialize in each
    type OS, but now they've all had to learn Mac OS to keep up with the
    need.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Tue Apr 30 17:33:32 2024
    On 2024-04-30 15:22, badgolferman wrote:
    Your Name wrote:

    On 2024-04-30 12:22:13 +0000, badgolferman said:
    Andrew wrote:

    Which of the DCIM file systems do you think is better engineered
    for users?

    As far as I'm concerned, Windows is by far the most user-friendly
    operating system. They tried porting that over to the Windows Phone
    but unfortunately it didn't work out. Incidentally, my wife had a
    Windows Phone and she loved it.

    Windows is the geek/tech-friendly operating system because they have
    to continually muck about so much to get anything to actually work.

    MacOS is the user friendly operating system that suffers far fewer
    issues. (Hence the old story about company tech departments not
    liking Macs because it gave them nothing to do, potentially putting
    some out of a job.)

    For proof, see the install instructions for pretty much any printer
    (or any other hardware add-on). The Windows instructions almost
    always take up far more space and are more complicated than the MacOS
    instructions.

    It's obvious you haven't used Windows in quite some time. Printer installations are Plug and Play these days.

    When they work properly.


    At my job we have Windows, Linux and Macs. The IT guys are working on
    Macs far more than Windows computers.

    Bullshit.

    They used to specialize in each
    type OS, but now they've all had to learn Mac OS to keep up with the
    need.

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  • From Harry S Robins@21:1/5 to Your Name on Wed May 1 00:55:17 2024
    On Wed, 1 May 2024 11:42:57 +1200, Your Name wrote:

    For proof, see the install instructions for pretty much any printer
    (or any other hardware add-on). The Windows instructions almost
    always take up far more space and are more complicated than the MacOS
    instructions.

    It's obvious you haven't used Windows in quite some time. Printer
    installations are Plug and Play these days.

    Not according to the instruction sheets they aren't. Not to mention the umeous issues people have getting them to work properly. :-)

    Maybe you haven't used the Windows in ten or twenty years perhaps?

    I haven't had problems installing printer drivers on Windows lately.

    It's all plug and play nowadays.

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  • From Bill Powell@21:1/5 to Your Name on Wed May 1 07:52:09 2024
    On Wed, 1 May 2024 09:55:43 +1200, Your Name wrote:

    As far as I'm concerned, Windows is by far the most user-friendly
    operating system. They tried porting that over to the Windows Phone
    but unfortunately it didn't work out. Incidentally, my wife had a
    Windows Phone and she loved it.

    Windows is the geek/tech-friendly operating system because they have to continually muck about so much to get anything to actually work.

    MacOS is the user friendly operating system that suffers far fewer
    issues. (Hence the old story about company tech departments not liking
    Macs because it gave them nothing to do, potentially putting some out
    of a job.)

    For proof, see the install instructions for pretty much any printer (or
    any other hardware add-on). The Windows instructions almost always take
    up far more space and are more complicated than the MacOS instructions.

    That's not proof of anything since it's an incorrect statement.
    Installing printer drivers on _any_ desktop platform is trivial.
    All install the driver the moment they sense the printer on the network.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Bill Powell on Wed May 1 18:04:29 2024
    On 2024-05-01 05:52:09 +0000, Bill Powell said:
    On Wed, 1 May 2024 09:55:43 +1200, Your Name wrote:
    As far as I'm concerned, Windows is by far the most user-friendly
    operating system. They tried porting that over to the Windows Phone
    but unfortunately it didn't work out. Incidentally, my wife had a
    Windows Phone and she loved it.

    Windows is the geek/tech-friendly operating system because they have to
    continually muck about so much to get anything to actually work.

    MacOS is the user friendly operating system that suffers far fewer
    issues. (Hence the old story about company tech departments not liking
    Macs because it gave them nothing to do, potentially putting some out
    of a job.)

    For proof, see the install instructions for pretty much any printer (or
    any other hardware add-on). The Windows instructions almost always take
    up far more space and are more complicated than the MacOS instructions.

    That's not proof of anything since it's an incorrect statement.
    Installing printer drivers on _any_ desktop platform is trivial.
    All install the driver the moment they sense the printer on the network.

    Oh dear, here we go again. :-\

    I was talking about the instruction sheet that comes in the box (or in
    the online manual these days) for setting up a new printer - the
    Windows instructions are almost always a lot longer than the MacOS instructions, even excluding if they try to deal with multiple versions
    of Windows.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Your Name on Wed May 1 08:26:37 2024
    On 01.05.24 08:04, Your Name wrote:
    I was talking about the instruction sheet that comes in the box (or in
    the online manual these days) for setting up a new printer - the
    Windows instructions are almost always a lot longer than the MacOS instructions, even excluding if they try to deal with multiple versions
    of Windows.

    I never ever used an "Instruction Sheet" for a Mac or Linux.

    Windows is the standard of the last century. They made never noticeable progress with this messy OS.


    --
    "Alea iacta est." (Julius Caesar)

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