On 02.05.24 15:39, badgolferman wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

No. Spyware/-service of the worst kind.
*NOBODY* needs it.

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On 2024-05-02, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

On 02.05.24 15:39, badgolferman wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

No. Spyware/-service of the worst kind.

Nonsense. It's completely opt-in and voluntary, and is done in a secure
and private manner.

*NOBODY* needs it.

More nonsense.

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On May 2, 2024 at 9:39:01 AM EDT, ""badgolferman"" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

Is texting "I'm home" too much trouble now?

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On 2024-05-02, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

My wife and I tried it out back when iOS 17 was released. Works great.

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Chris wrote on Thu, 2 May 2024 16:01:43 -0000 (UTC) :

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

No. Wasn't aware of it. Probably would have used it when the kids were younger. Not sure I'd have much for it now, however, good to know about it.

I appreciate badgolferman let us all know about this check-in feature.
It seems to be a standard geofence automated action (based on location).

I was thinking of setting it up for a very old relative, but it has one
problem which is that the person being watched has to initiate the action.

At least that's how I interpreted how the Apple checkin feature works.
Is that correct?

It doesn't work unless the person we care about initiates the process?

So, either way, the person we're caring about has to initiate something
a. Either when they leave place A to arrive at place B, or,
b. When they arrive at place B (using the traditional "I'm home" text.

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On 02.05.24 17:47, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2024-05-02, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

On 02.05.24 15:39, badgolferman wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

No. Spyware/-service of the worst kind.

Nonsense. It's completely opt-in and voluntary, and is done in a secure
and private manner.

*NOBODY* needs it.

More nonsense.

Why should a healthy and reasonable person ever use such a crap?
Give a reason instead of bullshitting. Spy on the own kids?
It is antisocial to use such a service without people travelling with
this person informing about it.

Probably reasons why it is so incredibly popular, isn't it?

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On 02.05.24 17:47, badgolferman wrote:

Jörg Lorenz wrote:

On 02.05.24 15:39, badgolferman wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.


https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

No. Spyware/-service of the worst kind.
NOBODY needs it.

It's Apple service. Is that spyware?

Yes. Technology can always be misused.

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On 02.05.24 17:50, Tyrone wrote:

On May 2, 2024 at 9:39:01 AM EDT, ""badgolferman"" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

Is texting "I'm home" too much trouble now?

+1

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On 02.05.24 18:16, badgolferman wrote:

Tyrone wrote:

On May 2, 2024 at 9:39:01 AM EDT, ""badgolferman""
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.


https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

Is texting "I'm home" too much trouble now?

For kids it is!

Nonsense!
Then they should not have a smartphone in the first place!

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On 2024-05-02 09:36, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

On 02.05.24 17:47, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2024-05-02, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

On 02.05.24 15:39, badgolferman wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

No. Spyware/-service of the worst kind.

Nonsense. It's completely opt-in and voluntary, and is done in a secure
and private manner.

*NOBODY* needs it.

More nonsense.

Why should a healthy and reasonable person ever use such a crap?
Give a reason instead of bullshitting. Spy on the own kids?
It is antisocial to use such a service without people travelling with
this person informing about it.

Probably reasons why it is so incredibly popular, isn't it?

"It is antisocial to use such a service without people travelling with
this person informing about it."

In what way?

Would it be "antisocial" to text one's parents where you are if you
don't tell the others in the group that you're doing so?

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On 2024-05-02 09:37, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

On 02.05.24 17:47, badgolferman wrote:

Jörg Lorenz wrote:

On 02.05.24 15:39, badgolferman wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.


https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

No. Spyware/-service of the worst kind.
NOBODY needs it.

It's Apple service. Is that spyware?

Yes. Technology can always be misused.

This is completely opt-in.

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On 2024-05-02 09:39, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

On 02.05.24 18:16, badgolferman wrote:

Tyrone wrote:

On May 2, 2024 at 9:39:01 AM EDT, ""badgolferman""
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.


https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

Is texting "I'm home" too much trouble now?

For kids it is!

Nonsense!
Then they should not have a smartphone in the first place!

I need to take blood thinners every 12 hours.

Do you imagine that I always remember to do so right on time?

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On 02.05.24 17:46, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2024-05-02, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

My wife and I tried it out back when iOS 17 was released. Works great.

Are you handicapped?
Did you use it more than once?

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On 2024-05-02 08:50, Tyrone wrote:

On May 2, 2024 at 9:39:01 AM EDT, ""badgolferman"" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

Is texting "I'm home" too much trouble now?

It's just something that you can forget to do.

People DO forget things, you know.

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On 2024-05-02 09:41, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

On 02.05.24 17:46, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2024-05-02, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

My wife and I tried it out back when iOS 17 was released. Works great.

Are you handicapped?

You've never once in your life forgot something important?

Did you use it more than once?

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On 2024-05-02 10:27, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

On 02.05.24 15:39, badgolferman wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

No. Spyware/-service of the worst kind.
*NOBODY* needs it.

It's an Apple iOS feature.
And you are the *LAST* person in the world people take 'advice' from.

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On 2024-05-02 11:47, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2024-05-02, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

On 02.05.24 15:39, badgolferman wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

No. Spyware/-service of the worst kind.

Nonsense. It's completely opt-in and voluntary, and is done in a secure
and private manner.

*NOBODY* needs it.

More nonsense.

How dare you challenge Jörg! He knows everything!

--
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nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.”
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On 2024-05-02 11:50, Tyrone wrote:

On May 2, 2024 at 9:39:01 AM EDT, ""badgolferman"" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

Is texting "I'm home" too much trouble now?

The notion is the negative case. If your loved one doesn't "check in"
because they never got to the destination, then you could call/text them
to see what's up....

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nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.”
- Charles de Gaulle.

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On 2024-05-02 12:01, Chris wrote:

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

No. Wasn't aware of it. Probably would have used it when the kids were younger. Not sure I'd have much for it now, however, good to know about it. Thanks!

I can see using it when my SO travels on business. She drives through a
few long stretches with nothing but rocks, lakes and Christmas trees.
Nice to know she arrives okay (she usually texts) so the absence of an automated check-in would get me in gear.

A few years ago she had a car accident. Thankfully no injuries (other
than pride - she was looking to the side at something along the
highway). She called me. But could have been a case where she would not
be able to call me... I drove out to pick her up.

--
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nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.”
- Charles de Gaulle.

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On 2024-05-02 12:36, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

On 02.05.24 17:47, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2024-05-02, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

On 02.05.24 15:39, badgolferman wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

No. Spyware/-service of the worst kind.

Nonsense. It's completely opt-in and voluntary, and is done in a secure
and private manner.

*NOBODY* needs it.

More nonsense.

Why should a healthy and reasonable person ever use such a crap?
Give a reason instead of bullshitting. Spy on the own kids?
It is antisocial to use such a service without people travelling with
this person informing about it.

It's opt-in, not spyware. Useful for the case where the loved one does
not make it for some reason.

Probably reasons why it is so incredibly popular, isn't it?

It's a new feature numbnutz.

Oh no! You've been caught saying stupid things. Again.

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nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.”
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On 02.05.24 18:41, Alan wrote:

On 2024-05-02 09:39, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

On 02.05.24 18:16, badgolferman wrote:

For kids it is!

Nonsense!
Then they should not have a smartphone in the first place!

I need to take blood thinners every 12 hours.

Are you a kid?

Do you imagine that I always remember to do so right on time?

There are much more suitable apps! *Reminders* for example.

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On 02.05.24 18:01, Chris wrote:

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

No. Wasn't aware of it. Probably would have used it when the kids were younger. Not sure I'd have much for it now, however, good to know about it. Thanks!

Lickspittle.



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On 02.05.24 18:41, Alan wrote:

On 2024-05-02 08:50, Tyrone wrote:

On May 2, 2024 at 9:39:01 AM EDT, ""badgolferman""
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

Is texting "I'm home" too much trouble now?

It's just something that you can forget to do.

So what! Idiot.

People DO forget things, you know.

These people should not travel alone. Under no circumstances.


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On 2024-05-02 10:13, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

On 02.05.24 18:41, Alan wrote:

On 2024-05-02 09:39, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

On 02.05.24 18:16, badgolferman wrote:

For kids it is!

Nonsense!
Then they should not have a smartphone in the first place!

I need to take blood thinners every 12 hours.

Are you a kid?

Nope. How is that relevant?

Do you imagine that I always remember to do so right on time?

There are much more suitable apps! *Reminders* for example.

Are you really this thick?

I didn't bring it up to suggest that Check-In was right for this purpose.

It was an ANALOGY.

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On 2024-05-02 10:15, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

On 02.05.24 18:41, Alan wrote:

On 2024-05-02 08:50, Tyrone wrote:

On May 2, 2024 at 9:39:01 AM EDT, ""badgolferman""
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

Is texting "I'm home" too much trouble now?

It's just something that you can forget to do.

So what! Idiot.

People DO forget things, you know.

These people should not travel alone. Under no circumstances.

So you should never travel alone either, right?

Because you...

...just like every other human...

...occasionally forget things...

...even important things.

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On 2024-05-02 10:17, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

On 02.05.24 18:01, Chris wrote:

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

No. Wasn't aware of it. Probably would have used it when the kids were
younger. Not sure I'd have much for it now, however, good to know about it. >> Thanks!

Lickspittle.

Seriously:

Why are you working so hard to be an asshole?

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On 2024-05-02 11:03, badgolferman wrote:

Alan wrote:

I need to take blood thinners every 12 hours.

Do you imagine that I always remember to do so right on time?

I use this for my medications. Very useful!

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/medisafe-medication-management/id573916946 >>>

Thanks, but I do use Reminders.

I used to use Reminders, but found this to be more utile. It also
keeps track of how many pills you have left and can print out a report
if you need one. There are other things it does as well.

I'll check it out.

But for me, it's only 5mg of Apixaban every 12 hours.

It's not that tricky a regimen.

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On 2024-05-02 10:15, badgolferman wrote:

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

On 2024-05-02 09:39, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

On 02.05.24 18:16, badgolferman wrote:

Tyrone wrote:

On May 2, 2024 at 9:39:01 AM EDT, ""badgolferman""
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it. >>>>>>

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

Is texting "I'm home" too much trouble now?

For kids it is!

Nonsense!
Then they should not have a smartphone in the first place!

I need to take blood thinners every 12 hours.

Do you imagine that I always remember to do so right on time?

I use this for my medications. Very useful!

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/medisafe-medication-management/id573916946

Thanks, but I do use Reminders.

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On May 2, 2024 at 12:16:12 PM EDT, ""badgolferman"" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Tyrone wrote:

On May 2, 2024 at 9:39:01 AM EDT, ""badgolferman""
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.


https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

Is texting "I'm home" too much trouble now?

For kids it is!

Not for mine.

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On 2024-05-02 14:13, Alan wrote:

But for me, it's only 5mg of Apixaban every 12 hours.

iOS / Watch have a medications reminder function you can set within the
Health app.

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nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.”
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On 2024-05-02 19:29, Alan wrote:

On 2024-05-02 16:03, Alan Browne wrote:

On 2024-05-02 14:13, Alan wrote:

But for me, it's only 5mg of Apixaban every 12 hours.

iOS / Watch have a medications reminder function you can set within
the Health app.

Not sure how that would be better than just using Reminders, but... ...OK.

Not much if all you need is a reminder, but it's specific to task, part
of the overall "Health" thing Apple is so into (if you're "into") and
keeps a record and all that fluff.

--
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nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.”
- Charles de Gaulle.

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On 2024-05-02 16:03, Alan Browne wrote:

On 2024-05-02 14:13, Alan wrote:

But for me, it's only 5mg of Apixaban every 12 hours.

iOS / Watch have a medications reminder function you can set within the Health app.

Not sure how that would be better than just using Reminders, but... ...OK.

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On 2024-05-02, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

On 02.05.24 17:46, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2024-05-02, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

My wife and I tried it out back when iOS 17 was released. Works
great.

Are you handicapped?

The fuck are you rambling about? Go back to sleep, droopy.

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On 2024-05-02, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Tyrone wrote:

On May 2, 2024 at 9:39:01 AM EDT, ""badgolferman"" >><REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

Is texting "I'm home" too much trouble now?

For kids it is!

It has legitimate use cases for adults as well.

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On 2024-05-02, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

On 2024-05-02 10:15, badgolferman wrote:

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

I need to take blood thinners every 12 hours.

Do you imagine that I always remember to do so right on time?

I use this for my medications. Very useful!

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/medisafe-medication-management/id573916946

Thanks, but I do use Reminders.

I just set my meds up in the Health app, and it reminds me
automatically.

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On 2024-05-02, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

On 02.05.24 17:47, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2024-05-02, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

On 02.05.24 15:39, badgolferman wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

No. Spyware/-service of the worst kind.

Nonsense. It's completely opt-in and voluntary, and is done in a
secure and private manner.

*NOBODY* needs it.

More nonsense.

Why should a healthy and reasonable person ever use such a crap?

To let loved ones know you made it somewhere safely, obviously.

Give a reason instead of bullshitting. Spy on the own kids?

It's opt-in and initiated by the person wanting to let the other one
know they made it there safely, you complete dumb fuck.

It is antisocial to use such a service without people travelling with
this person informing about it.

You're clueless.

Probably reasons why it is so incredibly popular, isn't it?

Up your meds.

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On 2024-05-02, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

On 2024-05-02 19:29, Alan wrote:

On 2024-05-02 16:03, Alan Browne wrote:

On 2024-05-02 14:13, Alan wrote:

But for me, it's only 5mg of Apixaban every 12 hours.

iOS / Watch have a medications reminder function you can set within
the Health app.

Not sure how that would be better than just using Reminders, but...
...OK.

Not much if all you need is a reminder, but it's specific to task,
part of the overall "Health" thing Apple is so into (if you're "into")
and keeps a record and all that fluff.

My wife and I have used it for a long time, and it's great.

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On 2024-05-02, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

On 2024-05-02 08:50, Tyrone wrote:

On May 2, 2024 at 9:39:01 AM EDT, ""badgolferman""
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

Is texting "I'm home" too much trouble now?

It's just something that you can forget to do.

It's also useful in situations where someone may not make it home safely
and wants others to know if that's the case.

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On 2024-05-02, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:

Chris wrote on Thu, 2 May 2024 16:01:43 -0000 (UTC) :

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

No. Wasn't aware of it. Probably would have used it when the kids
were younger. Not sure I'd have much for it now, however, good to
know about it.

I appreciate badgolferman let us all know about this check-in feature.
It seems to be a standard geofence automated action (based on
location).

I was thinking of setting it up for a very old relative, but it has
one problem which is that the person being watched has to initiate the action.

TIL privacy is a drawback.

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On 2024-05-02, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

On 2024-05-02 12:01, Chris wrote:

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/let-your-loved-ones-know-you-arrived-safely-with-ios-17-check-ins/

No. Wasn't aware of it. Probably would have used it when the kids
were younger. Not sure I'd have much for it now, however, good to
know about it. Thanks!

I can see using it when my SO travels on business. She drives through
a few long stretches with nothing but rocks, lakes and Christmas
trees. Nice to know she arrives okay (she usually texts) so the
absence of an automated check-in would get me in gear.

A few years ago she had a car accident. Thankfully no injuries (other
than pride - she was looking to the side at something along the
highway). She called me. But could have been a case where she would
not be able to call me... I drove out to pick her up.

Yep. That's one of the primary use cases for it that interests me.

The trolls here bitching and moaning about this feature have no
imagination - but what's new?

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Jolly Roger wrote on 3 May 2024 01:21:26 GMT :

On May 2, 2024 at 9:39:01 AM EDT, ""badgolferman"" >>><REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

Is texting "I'm home" too much trouble now?

For kids it is!

It has legitimate use cases for adults as well.

For those who leave their location on all the time (which is most people, I think), it has the advantage that you initiate it and then forget about it.

But I think, based only on what I read in badgolferman's original post,
that it doesn't work all the time. It's a oneshot, it seems.

Is it a constant oneshot? Or is it set & forget?

For example, if it is a oneshot, then it just moves the "remembering"
action from the end of the trip to the beginning (which has some merit).

However, if it's a set-and-forget, then it has different advantages (and disadvantages, of course).

Does it work all the time, meaning you set it once and if you go outside
the outside (larger) geofence area, it turns itself on, and then when you arrive back inside the inside (smaller) geofence area, it sends the text?

Or does it work only once (i.e., a oneshot) & therefore needs to be reset
each time you want to use it?

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Jolly Roger wrote on 3 May 2024 01:27:29 GMT :

The trolls here bitching and moaning about this feature have no
imagination - but what's new?

I didn't see anyone bitching & moaning, so I temporarily disabled the
killfile, and saw it was mostly only Jughead (who has never provided any
value) so I would ignore anything he says.

Apparently "Tyrone" is ambivalent but that's about it for dissenters.

BTW, enabling Jughead's messages nearly *doubled* the number of posts in
this thread, which shows that he provides negative value in every case.

I'm interested in this feature for an aging relative who is only on iPhones
and iPads (what can I say, she fell for the advertisements that it's easy
and safe) where she can't drive but she sometimes gets lost wandering
about.

The granularity of the geofence isn't stated in the article that
badgolferman kindly referenced but it's clear it's meant for "long" trips
(for some measure of long of course).

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On 2024-05-03, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote on 3 May 2024 01:21:26 GMT :

On May 2, 2024 at 9:39:01 AM EDT, ""badgolferman"" >>>><REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone used this Check In feature? I just found out about it.

Is texting "I'm home" too much trouble now?

For kids it is!

It has legitimate use cases for adults as well.

For those who leave their location on all the time (which is most
people, I think), it has the advantage that you initiate it and then
forget about it.

You initiate it to let someone know you have reached your destination
and choose what details they can see if you don’t successfully complete
your Check In. That's the intended purpose of the feature. It's not complicated, Arlen.

But I think, based only on what I read in badgolferman's original
post, that it doesn't work all the time. It's a oneshot, it seems.

Is it a constant oneshot? Or is it set & forget?

If you want someone to see your location indefinitely or some times and
not others, there's an existing location sharing feature for that.

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On 5/2/24 7:29 PM, Alan wrote:

On 2024-05-02 16:03, Alan Browne wrote:

On 2024-05-02 14:13, Alan wrote:

But for me, it's only 5mg of Apixaban every 12 hours.

iOS / Watch have a medications reminder function you can set within
the Health app.

Not sure how that would be better than just using Reminders, but... ...OK.

Why not see where the folks you care about are every step of the way
using Find My?

My son was on a business trip out of the country recently and the Find
My app showed which side of the street he as walking down in a foreign
city on the other side of the world.

Coming home, it tracked him through the airport, onto the concourse,
down the Jetway and even where in the plane he was seated. While the
plane was still parked at the gate, it tracked him getting out of his
seat and going to the can too :-)

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On 2024-05-03 08:41, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote:

On 5/2/24 7:29 PM, Alan wrote:

On 2024-05-02 16:03, Alan Browne wrote:

On 2024-05-02 14:13, Alan wrote:

But for me, it's only 5mg of Apixaban every 12 hours.

iOS / Watch have a medications reminder function you can set within
the Health app.

Not sure how that would be better than just using Reminders, but...
...OK.

Why not see where the folks you care about are every step of the way
using Find My?

Some would find that to be varying degrees of invasive, obsessive,
creepy ...

That said, when my SO and her sister were caught w/o a hotel a few years
ago I had my SO turn on Glympse so I could see where they were, book
them a hotel, guide them around traffic to the hotel. But Glympse times
out - and rightly so.

My son was on a business trip out of the country recently and the Find
My app showed which side of the street he as walking down in a foreign
city on the other side of the world.

Coming home, it tracked him through the airport, onto the concourse,
down the Jetway and even where in the plane he was seated. While the
plane was still parked at the gate, it tracked him getting out of his
seat and going to the can too :-)

In my experience, Find My is not that granular (time wise) with updates
- usually 3 - 10 minutes (or more) apart.

If you want "real time" (or about 5 - 10 second lag) then an app like
Glympse is the go to.

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Jolly Roger wrote on 3 May 2024 05:11:28 GMT :

You initiate it to let someone know you have reached your destination
and choose what details they can see if you don't successfully complete
your Check In. That's the intended purpose of the feature.

Yea. Remember, I read the articles (that you usually outright deny without reading them if you feel that you need to protect Apple's sacred honor).

The article didn't clearly say whether it will work more than once so
thanks for confirming it only works as a oneshot - which you should know as
you have tested it and worked with it since iOS 17 first came out.

Much appreciated.

The reason I ask is that fully automatic geofenced "I'm here" texting is available on both iOS and on Android but it takes a separate app to do it.

But I think, based only on what I read in badgolferman's original
post, that it doesn't work all the time. It's a oneshot, it seems.

Is it a constant oneshot? Or is it set & forget?

If you want someone to see your location indefinitely or some times and
not others, there's an existing location sharing feature for that.

Thanks. Understood.

I have iPhones and iPads but I only use them to test things out as I'm on Android most of the time, not iOS. Thanks for your helpful advice.

On Android, for those with technical expertise, it would likely be done
with Tasker/Automate automation, and for that there are already plenty of plugins but it takes more knowhow than using the native OS to do it. https://ifttt.com/applets/hG8iUPb6-automatically-send-a-message-from-your-android-phone-when-you-leave-work

Of course, with an extra app, both Android & iOS can do it permanently,
which is why I had asked the question of the native Apple oneshot.

https://www.iamherezone.com/
"This app allows users to send pre-generated messages based on
their geofence location area, thus informing other users when
they enter or leave a geographical area. The user defines the
geographical area by drawing it on the map. The app supports
SMS messaging, WhatsApp, email, and push notifications."

1. Draw a zone (on OpenStreetMap)
2. Write your text message
3. Select recipients

Create multiple zones
Store multiple recipients
Send default and customized messages
Setup recurring and one-time messages
Add icon and color to each zone

But, as I said, on both iOS & Android, it takes a separate app to do it. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.syncitgroup.android.iamhere https://apps.apple.com/us/app/im-here-zone/id1452495641?ls=1

I like that Apple made the oneshot so simple that even idiots can do it.
That's actually a complement to Apple since it's native to the OS.

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On 2024-05-03, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote on 3 May 2024 05:11:28 GMT :

You initiate it to let someone know you have reached your destination
and choose what details they can see if you don't successfully complete
your Check In. That's the intended purpose of the feature.

Yea. Remember, blah blah blah

Nobody cares about your public masturbation, Arlen.

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On 2024-05-03, Colour Sergeant Bourne <bourne@rorke.za> wrote:

On 5/2/24 7:29 PM, Alan wrote:

On 2024-05-02 16:03, Alan Browne wrote:

On 2024-05-02 14:13, Alan wrote:

But for me, it's only 5mg of Apixaban every 12 hours.

iOS / Watch have a medications reminder function you can set within
the Health app.

Not sure how that would be better than just using Reminders, but...
...OK.

Why not see where the folks you care about are every step of the way
using Find My?

What does Find My have to do with medication reminders? You lost or
something?

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On 5/3/24 11:12 AM, Chris wrote:

Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

On 2024-05-03 08:41, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote:

Coming home, it tracked him through the airport, onto the concourse,
down the Jetway and even where in the plane he was seated. While the
plane was still parked at the gate, it tracked him getting out of his
seat and going to the can too :-)

In my experience, Find My is not that granular (time wise) with updates
- usually 3 - 10 minutes (or more) apart.

If you want "real time" (or about 5 - 10 second lag) then an app like
Glympse is the go to.

Find My does have a "live" mode where you can follow them in real time, but it won't be as granular as CSB makes out. GPS is not that accurate and certainly not inside a plane.

I don't know what granular means but as I mentioned, while his very
large plane was still at the gate (in Qatar, actually), Find My tracked
him in Live Mode leaving his seat and going to the head and returning.
Didn't see him flush though ;-)

On another flight, he departed Atlanta for San Diego and for whatever
reason, he still had his phone on and FM tracked him in Live Mode for
about 3 minutes during push back, taxi out, takeoff roll and liftoff
until losing contact just short of Villa Rica, GA-- about 30 miles west
of the airport. He was really moving fast from takeoff roll on! Never
saw that before-- or since...

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Jolly Roger wrote on 3 May 2024 16:09:23 GMT :

Yea. Remember, blah blah blah

Nobody cares about your public masturbation

I wonder if you even realize how infantile you always devolve into.
It's your innate nature to be infantile, Jolly Roger.
It's all you've got.

Even when people are agreeing with you and not saying bad things about your Apple God whom you defend with all your infantile skills to the death.

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On 2024-05-03 11:12, Chris wrote:

Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

On 2024-05-03 08:41, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote:

Coming home, it tracked him through the airport, onto the concourse,
down the Jetway and even where in the plane he was seated. While the
plane was still parked at the gate, it tracked him getting out of his
seat and going to the can too :-)

In my experience, Find My is not that granular (time wise) with updates
- usually 3 - 10 minutes (or more) apart.

If you want "real time" (or about 5 - 10 second lag) then an app like
Glympse is the go to.

Find My does have a "live" mode where you can follow them in real time, but

Never noticed - I'll look into that.

it won't be as granular as CSB makes out. GPS is not that accurate and certainly not inside a plane.

iPhones use cell towers for trilateration when GPS reception is poor -
it can be surprisingly accurate - even in a plane on the ground if there
are enough cell towers (3 or 4) spread out nicely - this is indicated by
the error estimation circle.

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On 2024-05-03 11:12, Chris wrote:

Find My does have a "live" mode where you can follow them in real time, but

No way to "force it" on and per some web pages it is not
reliable/consistent.


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On 2024-05-03 12:11, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2024-05-03, Colour Sergeant Bourne <bourne@rorke.za> wrote:

On 5/2/24 7:29 PM, Alan wrote:

On 2024-05-02 16:03, Alan Browne wrote:

On 2024-05-02 14:13, Alan wrote:

But for me, it's only 5mg of Apixaban every 12 hours.

iOS / Watch have a medications reminder function you can set within
the Health app.

Not sure how that would be better than just using Reminders, but...
...OK.

Why not see where the folks you care about are every step of the way
using Find My?

What does Find My have to do with medication reminders? You lost or something?

What's usenet w/o somebody introducing a sin x / cos x ?

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On 2024-05-03, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

Andrew wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote on 3 May 2024 16:09:23 GMT :

Yea. Remember, blah blah blah

Nobody cares about your public masturbation

I wonder if you even realize how infantile you always devolve into.
It's your innate nature to be infantile, Jolly Roger. It's all you've
got.

Even when people are agreeing with you and not saying bad things about
your Apple God whom you defend with all your infantile skills to the
death.

Some people are good examples of bad examples...

Some people can't help but side with known trolls in any disagreement
and project their own weaknesses onto people they hold irrational hatred towards.

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On 2024-05-03, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote on 3 May 2024 16:09:23 GMT :

Yea. Remember, blah blah blah

Nobody cares about your public masturbation

I wonder if you even realize how infantile you always devolve into.
It's your innate nature to be infantile, Jolly Roger.
It's all you've got.

Projection. You constantly sling juvenile insults at anyone who dares to
use Apple products right here in these newsgroups.

Even when people are agreeing with you and not saying bad things

You can't run from your own words, Arlen:

"I read the articles (that you usually outright deny without
reading them if you feel that you need to protect Apple's sacred honor)."

"Apple made the oneshot so simple that even idiots can do it."

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Jolly Roger wrote on 4 May 2024 15:57:20 GMT :

Some people are good examples of bad examples...

Some people can't help but side with known trolls in any disagreement
and project their own weaknesses onto people they hold irrational hatred towards.

And yet, there is no disagreement. I'm just stating the obvious facts.

All three of us, badgolferman, me, and you, Jolly Roger, agree this new
iOS17 "check in" feature is a rather nice easy-to-use simple way for iOS
users to better automate check in upon returning to a geofenced area.

For a more comprehensive iOS/Android checkout/checkin feature, see this:
*Android/iOS easy to use "I'm Home/I left Work" automated SMS geofence app*
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=13360&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#13360>

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Jolly Roger wrote on 4 May 2024 15:55:55 GMT :

Projection. You constantly sling juvenile insults at anyone who dares to
use Apple products right here in these newsgroups.

That's funny because I probably use more Apple products than you do, JR.

The difference is I didn't buy Apple products for the same reason that you
did, since I bought them to test them out to see what they can & can't do.

You buy them to be part of the herd, where you can't stand the truth about Apple because all you know about Apple is what the herd marketing told you.

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Jolly Roger wrote on 4 May 2024 17:26:12 GMT :

Andrew wrote:
That's funny because I probably use more Apple products than you do, JR.

The difference is I didn't buy Apple products for the same reason that you >> did, since I bought them to test them out to see what they can & can't do. >>
You buy them to be part of the herd, where you can't stand the truth about >> Apple because all you know about Apple is what the herd marketing told you.

Predictably you try to change the subject when someone points out your juvenile behavior. And no, you don't use more Apple products than me
(and it's irrelevant anyway).

The reason it matters that I use Apple products is that I test them so I
know what they can and cannot do. You only read advertisements about them.

You bought into only what Apple cleverly promises it does, which is never
what Apple actually does - which is why Apple loses so many lawsuits, JR.

It's good that you admit you buy Apple products in order to troll.

It's indicative of your religious zealotry when you claim that anyone who
tells the truth about Apple products must be trolling by saying the facts.

Maybe the real reason you think the truth is trolling is you actually hate
that Apple doesn't deliver what Apple told you in adverts that it delivers.

So
unlike the rest of us, your use of them is limited to trolling, which explains a lot. Thanks for that admission.

The fact you call anyone who says the truth about Apple products is why I
at first thought you and nospam were the same person - but nospam's
contract presumably ran out and Apple didn't renew it apparently.

Now it's up to you alone to refute every truth ever said about Apple.

You buy them to be part of the herd, where you can't stand the truth
about Apple because all you know about Apple is what the herd
marketing told you.

More insults. They're all you've got. Sad.

Rather funny coming from you, Jolly Roger.

While you have no use for Apple products other than trolling, the rest
of us them to get shit done. Some of us are paid well to do so.

This kind of tirade only happens on the child-like Apple newsgroups, Jolly Roger... it doesn't happen on the adult operating system newsgroups.

The reason this newsgroup is the cesspool that it is... is that you exist.
You don't belong here, Jolly Roger - because you can't act like an adult.

Go away & this newsgroup will approach that of the normal OS newsgroups.

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On 2024-05-04, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote on 4 May 2024 15:55:55 GMT :

Projection. You constantly sling juvenile insults at anyone who dares
to use Apple products right here in these newsgroups.

That's funny because I probably use more Apple products than you do,
JR.

Predictably you try to change the subject when someone points out your
juvenile behavior. And no, you don't use more Apple products than me
(and it's irrelevant anyway).

The difference is I didn't buy Apple products for the same reason that
you did, since I bought them to test them out to see what they can &
can't do.

It's good that you admit you buy Apple products in order to troll. So
unlike the rest of us, your use of them is limited to trolling, which
explains a lot. Thanks for that admission.

You buy them to be part of the herd, where you can't stand the truth
about Apple because all you know about Apple is what the herd
marketing told you.

More insults. They're all you've got. Sad.

While you have no use for Apple products other than trolling, the rest
of us them to get shit done. Some of us are paid well to do so.

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On 2024-05-04, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote on 4 May 2024 15:57:20 GMT :

Some people are good examples of bad examples...

Some people can't help but side with known trolls in any disagreement
and project their own weaknesses onto people they hold irrational
hatred towards.

And yet, there is no disagreement.

There certainly is, when it comes to your little, petty insults. You're incapable of making posts here without slinging dirt.

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Jolly Roger wrote on 4 May 2024 17:27:12 GMT :

And yet, there is no disagreement.

There certainly is, when it comes to your little, petty insults. You're incapable of making posts here without slinging dirt.

Badgolferman and I were lauding the checkin onshot feature, and you still
think we're "slinging dirt". Why? Is it because you hate it's a oneshot?

If you hate that it's only a one-way oneshot so much, note that on iOS
and Android there is another app you can add that makes both checkin &
checkout bi-directional & repetitive, if that's what you really want.

*Android/iOS easy to use "I'm Home/I left Work" automated SMS geofence app*
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=13360&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#13360>

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On 2024-05-04, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote on 4 May 2024 17:26:12 GMT :

Andrew wrote:
That's funny because I probably use more Apple products than you do, JR. >>>
The difference is I didn't buy Apple products for the same reason that you >>> did, since I bought them to test them out to see what they can & can't do. >>>
You buy them to be part of the herd, where you can't stand the truth about >>> Apple because all you know about Apple is what the herd marketing told you.

Predictably you try to change the subject when someone points out your
juvenile behavior. And no, you don't use more Apple products than me
(and it's irrelevant anyway).

The reason it matters that I use Apple products is that I test them so I
know what they can and cannot do.

In order to troll, yes. And this is irrelevant to your juvenile insults.

You only read advertisements about them.

You bought into only what Apple cleverly promises it does, which is never what Apple actually does - which is why Apple loses so many lawsuits, JR.

You slinging around more juvenile insults just proves my point.

Go away & this newsgroup will approach that of the normal OS newsgroups.

Projection, as usual. You are here for one reason, and it's why you
sling insults at everyone and regularly change your nym to avoid
filtering: You arte here to troll.

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On 2024-05-04, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote on 4 May 2024 17:27:12 GMT :

And yet, there is no disagreement.

There certainly is, when it comes to your little, petty insults. You're
incapable of making posts here without slinging dirt.

Badgolferman and I

Are two peas in a pod. You are the most prolific troll in these news
groups, and badgolferman supports you in your goal to disrupt and insult
others here.

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Jolly Roger wrote on 4 May 2024 20:46:19 GMT :

Are two peas in a pod. You are the most prolific troll in these news
groups, and badgolferman supports you in your goal to disrupt and insult others here.

What's interesting is you had no idea there was a far better checkin app
than the one Apple provides which I explained in good detail over here.

*Android/iOS easy to use "I'm Home/I left Work" automated SMS geofence app*
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=13360&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#13360>

And yet you think providing a better functionality than which Apple
themselves is capable of writing is "disrupting" the Apple newsgroup.

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Jolly Roger wrote on 4 May 2024 20:45:09 GMT :

You are here for one reason, and it's why you
sling insults at everyone

And yet I do not "sling insults" at anyone. Not badgolferman.
Not Cameo. Not Hank.

It's Alan Browne who calls people an "it" which is his own childish way of justifying his inadequacies when it comes to his lack of iOS knowledge.

And it's Joerg Lorenz and you who call everyone a troll who posts useful information that neither of you ever has any clue has existed before.

An example of iOS functionality that you had no clue existed because all
you know is what Apple provides, and Apple can't write this stuff, is

*Android/iOS easy to use "I'm Home/I left Work" automated SMS geofence app*
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=13360&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#13360>

All you do is draw a circle, write the desired text, and check the box for whether you want it to be a checkout or checkin message, plus set the
active time period (defaults to a oneshot) which is easy for everyone.

<https://i.postimg.cc/C1PWHqMm/imhere.jpg>

This is code that Apple is incapable of writing, but others wrote it for
you and we all are the beneficiaries of getting code outside of Apple.

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Chris wrote on Sun, 5 May 2024 07:04:23 -0000 (UTC) :

The reason it matters that I use Apple products is that I test them so I
know what they can and cannot do.

The difference to the rest of us is that you don't *use* them day to day.

Actually, you're both correct & you're dead wrong, & you're missing a lot.
<https://i.postimg.cc/RVdVKS8q/Apple-Ipad.jpg>
<https://i.postimg.cc/PJ4hWyS0/Apple-Iphone.jpg>
<https://i.postimg.cc/zfgrt8dC/Samsung.jpg>

1. You're correct I don't use the iPhones or iPads like you use them;
2. You're wrong that I don't use both of them every single day though;
3. And, what you're missing is I use Android and know what it can do
(so I'm perfectly placed to explain to you how primitive iOS is).

For example, keeping in context of this thread, what you iPhone owners know
is the Apple advertised checkin functionality - which is limited in scope.

Since you Apple owners tend to not know anything about the real world, all
of you were ignorant that far better functionality already exists for iOS.

*Android/iOS easy to use "I'm Home/I left Work" automated SMS geofence app*
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=13360&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#13360>

All you do is draw a circle, write the desired text, and set recipients.
This checkin is way better than what Apple has provided to you, in fact.

That's value I add that none of you Apple-only owners could possibly know.
And for that added value about the real world, you should thank me, Chris.

The value I add is that I know how a modern device works in the real world.
And I can inform you that the iOs devices are mired in yesterday's tech.

You should appreciate that vast knowledge I have about how iOS devices
actually work in the real world, and how the primitive iOS devices fare
against a modern device, even an ancient modern Android device as shown in
this screenshot I made moments ago just for you, Chris, of my devices.

<https://i.postimg.cc/fLp1L6XM/real-world.jpg>

You only *test* them to find differences or deficiencies that fit your
bias. You target functionality that is of no interest to anyone or almost no-one.

This is partially true also, Chris, as you use an iOS device mostly to play games, and I've never even tested how well (or poorly) my devices do that.

However, what I try to do is test the lies that nospam, Jolly Roger, Haemactylus and others write about iOS - and you should thank me for that.

The value I add to this newsgroup is I keep those iOS liars honest.
And I let you know about functionality that you'd never know of otherwise.

(Plus I'm the one who broke most of the news about Apple breaking the law, although recently others have overtaken me on that important role here.)

You only raise your ugly head when you see something negative in ios.

C'mon now. I'm not that ugly. I had an operation on my face after the
recent accident, but my wife still thinks I'm the cutest charmer around.

Go away & this newsgroup will approach that of the normal OS newsgroups.

Whenever you're not here for an extended period, this place is much calmer.

First off, I've never left for an extended period, and secondly, nospam has
and the discussions have been tremendously more civil without nospam here.

Note that every adult operating system newsgroup nospam posted his lies in,
he gets his head handed to him - as his lies only worked well on this ng.

That's because this newsgroup feeds off of the childish defense of Apple. Nobody on the adult OS newsgroups defends the mother ship to the death.

Only on Apple child-like newsgroups is this cult-like phenomenon found.

I suspect nospam's presumed contract with Apple expired where his role was
to refute all negative news about Apple using any method he could devise.

Even if that wasn't his contract with Apple, nospam actually knew more
about Apple than any of the rest of the religious zealots did, so we lost
that knowledge he imparted (particularly about the radios in the iPhone).

If we lose Joerg Lorenz or Alan Baker, we lose nothing, right?
If we lose Jolly Roger or Haemactylus, again, we lose nothing right?

In fact, the less those religious zealots post, the most accurate this
group becomes simply because they defend Apple with lies to the death.

Lose me & you lose a lot, Chris - because what you lose - is the truth.

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On 2024-05-04 22:45, Andrew wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote on 4 May 2024 20:45:09 GMT :

You are here for one reason, and it's why you
sling insults at everyone

And yet I do not "sling insults" at anyone. Not badgolferman.
Not Cameo. Not Hank.

Yes: you do sling insults.

It's Alan Browne who calls people an "it" which is his own childish way of justifying his inadequacies when it comes to his lack of iOS knowledge.

And it's Joerg Lorenz and you who call everyone a troll who posts useful information that neither of you ever has any clue has existed before.

An example of iOS functionality that you had no clue existed because all
you know is what Apple provides, and Apple can't write this stuff, is

*Android/iOS easy to use "I'm Home/I left Work" automated SMS geofence app*
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=13360&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#13360>

All you do is draw a circle, write the desired text, and check the box for whether you want it to be a checkout or checkin message, plus set the
active time period (defaults to a oneshot) which is easy for everyone.

<https://i.postimg.cc/C1PWHqMm/imhere.jpg>

This is code that Apple is incapable of writing, but others wrote it for
you and we all are the beneficiaries of getting code outside of Apple.

"Incapable"?

How obstinately stupid are you?

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Jolly Roger wrote on 4 May 2024 20:46:19 GMT :

Are two peas in a pod. You are the most prolific troll in these news
groups, and badgolferman supports you in your goal to disrupt and
insult others here.

What's interesting is you had no idea there was a far better checkin
app

What's interesting is when anyone calls you out on your childish,
trollish behavior you try to dodge by changing the topic of discussion
(which in this case is also based on a lie). This thread wasn't about alternative apps until *you* tried to make it about one, and your little
"you didn't know about blah" lie is just a further attempt to change the
topic. You're a pathetic man-child, Arlen.

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Jolly Roger wrote on 5 May 2024 17:50:08 GMT :

What's interesting is you had no idea there was a far better checkin
app

What's interesting is when anyone calls you out on your childish,
trollish behavior you try to dodge by changing the topic of discussion
(which in this case is also based on a lie).

And yet, I'm the only one (besides the OP) who added on-topic technical
value to this thread, Jolly Roger. Certainly you added nothing of value.

I did add on-topic value. https://i.postimg.cc/C1PWHqMm/imhere.jpg

All you did was complain that you don't like that this app does more things than the limited functionality that the Apple app provided to you, JR.

This thread wasn't about
alternative apps until *you* tried to make it about one, and your little
"you didn't know about blah" lie is just a further attempt to change the topic.

I said outright that even I didn't know about the developer app that works
far better than anything Apple could possibly have written, Jolly Roger.

I only looked for that app when it was confirmed how limited the Apple
feature was (i.e., it's a oneshot and it has to be activated every time).

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Chris wrote:

1. You're correct I don't use the iPhones or iPad

Exactly. You only did the above screenshots because badgolferman asked
the question. Whereas I and many others use our iphones to take and
share photos all the time, without ever needing a Windows pc.

Notice what you just said, Chris. You said that badgolferman asked a
reasonable question, and I (among others) helped him answer that question.

What I did was show something none of you inside the walled garden could
have shown him - which is how easy a modern operating system handles photo naming conventions versus the primitive way Apple handles naming images.

I showed that Apple uses the primtiive naming convention that digital
cameras first used something like a decade or even two decades ago.

What I showed was the truth, Chris.

Apple's naming conventions are mired in ancient decades' old technology. Android's naming conventions had moved into the modern age long ago.

That's just the truth. And I proved the truth. With screenshots, which is something most of the religious zealots never do as they don't know how.

2. You're wrong that I don't use both of them every single day though;

What do you actually use them for that isn't looking for problems, then?
Give examples of what you used your ipad(s) for today.

Remember Chris, I tell the truth about Apple products, so that's mostly
what I use them for, e.g., see these images from the badgolferman thread.

https://i.postimg.cc/RVdVKS8q/Apple-Ipad.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/PJ4hWyS0/Apple-Iphone.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/zfgrt8dC/Samsung.jpg

What I try to do on the iOS devices is everything that I do on the Android devices, which is how, for example, I found out that iOS can't give you the privacy of the Tor browser - as just one example.

When I tried to graphically debug my Wi-Fi on the much larger iPads, I
found out that iOS is incapable of graphically debugging Wi-Fi or cellular.

When I tried to organize my iPad homescreen the way I wanted to organize
it, I found out it was impossible to do something that simple on iOS. https://i.postimg.cc/LXzB3Lc0/appleid01.jpg

When I tried to use my iPad without logging into the Apple ID, Apple locked
me out of my own device Chris. I know that because I tested it. You don't. https://i.postimg.cc/g008YhxP/appleid02.jpg

Hundreds of things I do every day on Android are impossible on iOS, Chris.
And yet, nothing on iOS isn't already on Android, for good reasons, Chris.

1. Developers write most functionality
2. Apple won't let developers write the functionality above
3. Google can't stop them.

I know all this because I have both devices.
All you religious zealots know is what Apple feeds you.

Which is almost always a lie (e.g., there's no privacy on an iOS device).
Even I'm shocked, by the way, that Android has far more privacy than iOS.

But it is what it is.
I know this because I tested every feature I am telling you about.

On both platforms.

3. And, what you're missing is I use Android and know what it can do
(so I'm perfectly placed to explain to you how primitive iOS is).

Your clear preference is for Android because you believe it fits your "privacy model" better. Therefore everything that doesn't fit that model
is bad/wrong/deficient/whatever.

You are at least partly right that Android allows far more privacy than iOS (e.g., Android works fine without a mothership tracking account).

But what you're also missing is that Android is far more functional than
iOS and Android is fantastically more customizable than iOS is, Chris.

So what I know that most of you religious zealots do not know is...
1. Android is far more functional than iOS (hence iOS is just a toy)
2. Android is far more customizable than iOS (hence easier to use)
3. Android is far more private than iOS (Apple lied about privacy)

You don't happen to like the truth about Apple's iOS - and that's fine.
But you not liking the truth is never going to stop me from saying it.

For example, keeping in context of this thread, what you iPhone owners know >> is the Apple advertised checkin functionality - which is limited in scope.

It is called "check in" for a reason; it isn't designed to solve all use-cases.

This is another case where I add tremendous value to this Apple newsgroup.

The record shows I read the article (which most of the religious zealots didn't) and I immediately congratulated badgolferman right from the start
and told him I liked that Apple created this feature which I had not known about.

Of course, I new Android did it years ago, but I knew the Android method
(using Tasker, for example) was complex for most people so I even told
Jolly Roger that I thought it was good of Apple to add this feature native.

Then Jolly Roger started going off on me and badgolferman for his own
personal reasons, but at the same time I realized how *limited* Apple's
checkin feature was - so I looked to see how Android did the same feature.

Lo and behold (since I'm excellent at finding software), I found that there
was a free adfree much better checkin/checkout geofence multiple-use app.

Notice this app does everything the Apple checkin does, and far more.
That's tremendous value for this newsgroup that nobody else knew about.

You just don't happen to like this app is better than what Apple provided.

Since you Apple owners tend to not know anything about the real world, all >> of you were ignorant that far better functionality already exists for iOS. >>
*Android/iOS easy to use "I'm Home/I left Work" automated SMS geofence app*
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=13360&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#13360>

How is it "far better" when you've never actually used it in "the real world"? It's an app with 1-star rating and hasn't been updated in five
years.

Notice a few things about that statement, as I did "test" it as shown here. https://i.postimg.cc/C1PWHqMm/imhere.jpg

Also, while you're correct that I didn't even know about this app until
Jolly Roger started slinging insults at me and badgolferman, that I simply added value to the thread topic.

What value are YOU adding to the thread topic Chris?

All you do is draw a circle, write the desired text, and set recipients.
This checkin is way better than what Apple has provided to you, in fact.

Stating something is a fact doesn't make it so. I've said this to you
many times. You have many opinions and insinuations, but very few facts.

Well, it's a fact the app exists and it's a fact that's how it works. https://i.postimg.cc/C1PWHqMm/imhere.jpg

You are classic in that you haven't even *tested* the app and you're
already defending Apple's limited checkin feature to the death, Chris.

Why don't you try the app out first before you berate it?

A. The Apple app is limited as a oneshot & it has to be fired off first.
B. The "I'mHere" app is NOT limited as a oneshot & it does NOT have to
be fired off first to use it. Although it can do that too.

Notice you didn't even realize that the developer app is more powerful
than the Apple capability nor did you even try it out before defending
Apple's limited app to the death, no matter what.

The fact is:
1. Both capabilities exist for iOS
2. One works both on iOS and Android
3. That one is far more functional than the native iOS feature (see above).

Those are facts.
You don't like those facts.
But you not liking them doesn't change that they are facts.

That's value I add that none of you Apple-only owners could possibly know. >> And for that added value about the real world, you should thank me, Chris.

Why? You've not actually used it in the "real world". You're simply recommending crap, that probably doesn't work, simply because it isn't
by Apple.

You don't see you're defending Apple to the death no matter what, Chris.

The facts are incontrovertible, Chris - despite your lies to the contrary.
1. The fact is both features exist for iOS (one exists for Android too).
2. The fact is one says it's a oneshot (the other says it does more).
3. The fact is one says it's limited (the other says it does much more).

You can't deny those facts so you lie that those fact don't exist.
Don't you see how you're trying to defend Apple to the death, no matter
what even though you've probably never tried either of the two apps yet.

Why don't you try them.
They're both free.

If you find *then* that they don't work as advertised, only then would your defense of Apple's limited product to the death make any sense Chris.

It's what an adult would do who is refuting the very facts above.
Remember, nobody refutes facts except a fool (that's why they're fools).

The value I add is that I know how a modern device works in the real world.

No you don't as you've admitted so yourself. You don't add value.

Keeping on topic, I already added tremendous value to this thread, Chris.
a. Badgolferman added value by telling us all about this feature
b. You and Jolly Roger & Jeorg & Tyrone & others didn't add any value
c. I added tremendous value by showing a more functional capability

Before you respond, think about how much on-topic value any of you added.
Hint: The answer is zero.

Only badgolferman and I added on topic technical value to this thread.
None of the rest are capable of adding any technical value.

And that's important. They & you don't know anything about iOS, Chris.
I do.

And I can inform you that the iOs devices are mired in yesterday's tech.

You should appreciate that vast knowledge I have about how iOS devices
actually work in the real world, and how the primitive iOS devices fare
against a modern device, even an ancient modern Android device as shown in >> this screenshot I made moments ago just for you, Chris, of my devices.

<https://i.postimg.cc/fLp1L6XM/real-world.jpg>

Man, you do love your unsubstantiated and pointless photos/screenshots.
Don't you? Here's my android phone: https://i.postimg.cc/tg1f9PN7/u6-ACPLn-Zh-HS9fm-JGE772n-U.jpg

Good. Now tell me, Chris...

1. What happens when you plug that phone into any Windows PC over USB
and then you try to copy files to and from that phone to & from the PC?

Versus...

2. What happens when you plug an iPhone into any Windows PC over USB
and then you try to copy files to and from that iPhone to & from the PC?

You'll notice NOTHING works on the iPhone. Yes. Nothing.
HINT: The AppleID can be anything just as the GoogleID can be anything.

Notice, the iPhone simply does not work in the real world.
Android easily does.

If you don't run that test, then you can't claim to understand what I said.

I said the truth about Apple.
If you don't run that test, you can't deny that truth.

No adult would do that.
Only fools do that.

You only *test* them to find differences or deficiencies that fit your
bias. You target functionality that is of no interest to anyone or almost >>> no-one.

This is partially true also, Chris, as you use an iOS device mostly to play >> games, and I've never even tested how well (or poorly) my devices do that.

Wrong.

Do you use that iOS device to copy any file you want to copy from any
Windows computer you want to copy it from to and from that device Chris?

Hint: You can't.
DoubleHint: Android can.

Hence the Apple devices do not work in the real world.

Now you have to understand the difference between fact & assessment, Chris.

FACT:
The iOS device can't do what the Android device easily does

Assessment of that fact:
The iOS device doesn't work in the real world.

You can disagree with the assessment of the fact, but only a fool would disagree with the fact (which is why fools are fools in the first place).

(Plus I'm the one who broke most of the news about Apple breaking the law, >> although recently others have overtaken me on that important role here.)

Lol. Get over yourself. None of that happened.

Do you realize I was the first person to report the battery gate stuff?
Do you realize I broke tons and tons of news of Apple breaking the law?

I stopped doing that (as it was boring) but now badgolferman took over.
The only time Apple tells the truth is when forced to, in court.
(That's an assessment of the fact Apple has been caught in so many lies.)

You can't deny Apple has been caught in a bunch of very expensive lies.
What you can deny is that it means Apple only tells the truth in court.

But the truth is what you hate, Chris.

Reporting the truth about Apple is what you dislike about me, Chris.
So be it.

You only raise your ugly head when you see something negative in ios.

C'mon now. I'm not that ugly. I had an operation on my face after the
recent accident, but my wife still thinks I'm the cutest charmer around.

Sorry to hear that.

Yeah, I almost died. They had to keep me in the ICU for a week.
It's over now. Water under the bridge. My wife still thinks I'm cute.

Notice though the difference between fact and assessment of that fact.
a. I have scars all over my face now (they're still healing).
b. You call me ugly... my wife still thinks I'm cute.

Please don't be like Alan Baker and lie about your education just so that I will believe you Chris. Just state facts. Assess those facts as an adult.

If you state a fact about Apple - I will NOT dispute it (only fools do
that). However if you claim that an assessment of mine is wrong, well
that's fine - just don't claim that a fact is wrong because you don't know
the difference between a fact and an assessment of that fact.

Fact: Apple settled a bunch of very expensive legal-issue lawsuits.
Assessment: The only time Apple tells the truth is in court.

Please learn the difference as my facts are never wrong.
That's because I don't say facts unless I know them to be facts.

You can disagree with my assessments of fact all you like though.
Adults do that all the time because they weigh facts differently.

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On 2024-05-05, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote on 5 May 2024 17:50:08 GMT :

What's interesting is you had no idea there was a far better checkin
app

What's interesting is when anyone calls you out on your childish,
trollish behavior you try to dodge by changing the topic of
discussion (which in this case is also based on a lie).

And yet, I'm the only one (besides the OP) who added on-topic
technical value to this thread, Jolly Roger. Certainly you added
nothing of value.

That's funny coming from you, since you literally thanked me for my
input. Your lies know no bounds.

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On 2024-05-05, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:

Chris wrote:

1. You're correct I don't use the iPhones or iPad

Can't keep your nyms straight, Arlen?

[reams of self-masturbatory bullshit rightfully ignored]

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Chris wrote on Sun, 5 May 2024 22:11:14 -0000 (UTC) :

I was highlighting how pointless your photos were and it worked!

It didn't work. I asked you to tell me how you'd do what every other
operating system easily does as I knew you can't do it with the iPhone.

The point I was making is the iPhone is a dumb terminal without being
logged into the Apple mainframes 24/7/365 as it's brain dead all alone.

The iPhone is just a toy because it can't do what all other devices do.

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On 2024-05-05 11:20, Andrew wrote:

Chris wrote:

1. You're correct I don't use the iPhones or iPad

Exactly. You only did the above screenshots because badgolferman asked
the question. Whereas I and many others use our iphones to take and
share photos all the time, without ever needing a Windows pc.

Notice what you just said, Chris.

Notice what you just did, Arlen:

Out yourself.

Not that you're ever really able to disguise your "unique" style.

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On 2024-05-05, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:

Chris wrote on Sun, 5 May 2024 22:11:14 -0000 (UTC) :

I was highlighting how pointless your photos were and it worked!

It didn't work.

It worked perfectly, and you fell for it.

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Jolly Roger wrote on 6 May 2024 00:24:34 GMT :

It worked perfectly, and you fell for it.

With respect to the checkin feature, there are at least 2 known methods for
the iPhone (& vastly greater methods available for Android owners).

1. Apple's rather limited checkin oneshot which is native to iOS 17
<https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-check-in-iphc143bb7e9/ios>

2. A developer's functional checkin/checkout oneshot and/or repeater
<https://www.iamherezone.com/>

3. The vast modern advanced automation features available in Android.
<https://www.androidauthority.com/best-automation-apps-android-3024941/>

What is a fact is all exist (although the iPhone lacks modern automation)
which is on-topic value that none of you Apple zealots knew anything about.

Anything else the Apple religious zealots retort is off topic for this
thread and hence doesn't add any useful technical value of merit.

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On 2024-05-06, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

On 06/05/2024 06:45, Andrew wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote on 6 May 2024 00:24:34 GMT :

It worked perfectly, and you fell for it.

With respect to the checkin feature, there are at least 2 known methods for >> the iPhone (& vastly greater methods available for Android owners).

1. Apple's rather limited checkin oneshot which is native to iOS 17
<https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-check-in-iphc143bb7e9/ios> >>
2. A developer's functional checkin/checkout oneshot and/or repeater
<https://www.iamherezone.com/>

3. The vast modern advanced automation features available in Android.
<https://www.androidauthority.com/best-automation-apps-android-3024941/> >>
What is a fact is all exist (although the iPhone lacks modern automation)
which is on-topic value that none of you Apple zealots knew anything about. >>
Anything else the Apple religious zealots retort is off topic for this
thread and hence doesn't add any useful technical value of merit.

As someone who claims to understand OSes and technology better than "children" I'm surprised - actually I'm not - you've completely
overlooked Apple's Shortcuts and Automation features. Clearly a sign of someone who doesn't actually use their Apple devices for anything other
than to find problems, and not solve them.

You'll find that the in-built tools are more than capable of achieving
what you claim is deficient. All without using a poorly rated,
unsupported, 5 yo, third party (cr)app. See the for the in-built Travel Triggers which will work perfectly. https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/shortcuts/apd8ebfc4e8e/ios https://www.imore.com/how-use-automations-shortcuts

You claim to have an elderly relative that would benefit from having
such a facility on her iphone. I look forward to hearing how it works
out for you/her. I won't hold my breath, however...

I mean if it was genuinely important to you you would have found out how
to do it over the *three and half years* since Shortcuts was built into
iOS. It was an separate app for *three years* prior to that.

Yet over several days of looking for an iOS solution all you can come up
with is an untested, unknown, and unused app. Doesn't feel like "value"
or "truth" from here. More like "wilfull incompetence" and "axe-grinding".

When your single goal is zealotry, you don't find actual solutions to
problems. Arlen proves his ignorance and stupidity every time he posts.

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