• Rumors Apple may improve the biggest iPhone weakness: The crappy batter

    From Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 3 16:39:49 2024
    If you're charging every night - you definitely have a crappy battery.

    "Another angle to this story is the influence of the EU, which
    requires customer-friendly battery replacement in some circumstances.
    If the cell does not reach 83% of capacity after 500 full charges,
    or 80% after 1,000 full charges, then the phone is required to have
    greater access to make replacement easier. While all the latest
    iPhone 15 models meet the 1,00-charge test, earlier phones do not."

    The introduction of a new battery technology like this is a strong message
    for Apple to stop putting the crappiest batteries they can into the iPhone.

    But time will tell how Apple works on the problem that all iPhones have the crappiest batteries in the smartphone industry by a huge failure margin.

    Why Apple puts the worst batteries in the industry in iPhones is up for conjecture (e.g., to shorten iPhone lifespan, for greater profits), etc.

    The fact simply is that the iPhone has the crappiest batteries of all.
    But maybe that will change with the iPhone 16... we'll have to wait.

    *Apple To Upgrade iPhone 16
    <https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidphelan/2024/07/03/apple-to-upgrade-iphone-16-design-in-important-way-new-leak-claims/>

    "The next iPhones, the iPhone 16 series, are expected to include
    models with an all-new battery design, with battery life amplified
    with a new, powerful processor. Everyone wants better battery life
    as well as more power and there's also a suggestion we will be
    able to hold on to our iPhones for longer."

    "It's thought the new battery will be found in some iPhone 16 models,
    though perhaps not all, with the expectation that all models in
    the iPhone 17 range released in 2025 will see the new design."

    But, unfortunately, instead of adding a better capacity battery, Apple apparently is opting merely to put the existing crappy battery into a metal case, according to the details which are published as recent rumors.

    Still, given iPhones have the worst batteries in smartphones, it's a
    welcome statement that the EU seems to have forced Apple's hand at
    designing a produict that doesn't fail after only a couple years.

    And, when the iPhone inevitably fails due to the crappy batteries Apple
    puts in all of them, at least this will make it easier to replace.

    "Another angle to this story is the influence of the EU, which
    requires customer-friendly battery replacement in some circumstances.
    If the cell does not reach 83% of capacity after 500 full charges,
    or 80% after 1,000 full charges, then the phone is required to have
    greater access to make replacement easier. While all the latest
    iPhone 15 models meet the 1,00-charge test, earlier phones do not."

    The introduction of a new battery technology like this is a strong message
    for Apple to stop putting the crappiest batteries they can into the iPhone.



    BTW, I'm well aware that the ignorant religious zealots claim that a puny single-digit percentage in "efficiency" magically overcomes triple-digit percentages in smaller battery capacity - which is simply absurd.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Andrew on Wed Jul 3 10:59:15 2024
    On 2024-07-03 09:39, Andrew wrote:
    If you're charging every night - you definitely have a crappy battery.

    "Another angle to this story is the influence of the EU, which
    requires customer-friendly battery replacement in some circumstances.
    If the cell does not reach 83% of capacity after 500 full charges,
    or 80% after 1,000 full charges, then the phone is required to have
    greater access to make replacement easier. While all the latest
    iPhone 15 models meet the 1,00-charge test, earlier phones do not."

    The introduction of a new battery technology like this is a strong message for Apple to stop putting the crappiest batteries they can into the iPhone.

    But time will tell how Apple works on the problem that all iPhones have the crappiest batteries in the smartphone industry by a huge failure margin.

    Why Apple puts the worst batteries in the industry in iPhones is up for conjecture (e.g., to shorten iPhone lifespan, for greater profits), etc.

    Yada, yada, yada.

    Battery capacity needs to be matched with energy USAGE.

    You can tell what kind of a match you have simply by comparing the run
    times of various devices.

    There are only 12 smartphones tested by tomsguide.com that outlast the
    best iPhone for battery life.

    <https://www.tomsguide.com/us/smartphones-best-battery-life,review-2857.html>

    It really isn't any more complicated than that.

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  • From david@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Jul 3 22:47:31 2024
    Using <news:v643hj$29pf5$1@dont-email.me>, Alan wrote:

    On 2024-07-03 09:39, Andrew wrote:
    If you're charging every night - you definitely have a crappy battery.

    "Another angle to this story is the influence of the EU, which
    requires customer-friendly battery replacement in some circumstances.
    If the cell does not reach 83% of capacity after 500 full charges,
    or 80% after 1,000 full charges, then the phone is required to have
    greater access to make replacement easier. While all the latest
    iPhone 15 models meet the 1,00-charge test, earlier phones do not."

    The introduction of a new battery technology like this is a strong message >> for Apple to stop putting the crappiest batteries they can into the iPhone. >>
    But time will tell how Apple works on the problem that all iPhones have the >> crappiest batteries in the smartphone industry by a huge failure margin.

    Why Apple puts the worst batteries in the industry in iPhones is up for
    conjecture (e.g., to shorten iPhone lifespan, for greater profits), etc.

    Yada, yada, yada.

    Battery capacity needs to be matched with energy USAGE.

    You can tell what kind of a match you have simply by comparing the run
    times of various devices.

    There are only 12 smartphones tested by tomsguide.com that outlast the
    best iPhone for battery life.

    <https://www.tomsguide.com/us/smartphones-best-battery-life,review-2857.html>

    It really isn't any more complicated than that.

    The batteries failed Apple's own tests which followed EU test protocols.

    Why do you think Apple reported every iPhone battery except the battery in
    the iPhone 15 failed the standard test which every OEM has to obey today?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to david on Thu Jul 4 10:39:48 2024
    On 2024-07-03 21:47, david wrote:
    Using <news:v643hj$29pf5$1@dont-email.me>, Alan wrote:

    On 2024-07-03 09:39, Andrew wrote:
    If you're charging every night - you definitely have a crappy battery.

      "Another angle to this story is the influence of the EU, which
       requires customer-friendly battery replacement in some circumstances. >>>    If the cell does not reach 83% of capacity after 500 full charges,
       or 80% after 1,000 full charges, then the phone is required to have >>>    greater access to make replacement easier. While all the latest
       iPhone 15 models meet the 1,00-charge test, earlier phones do not." >>>
    The introduction of a new battery technology like this is a strong
    message
    for Apple to stop putting the crappiest batteries they can into the
    iPhone.

    But time will tell how Apple works on the problem that all iPhones
    have the
    crappiest batteries in the smartphone industry by a huge failure margin. >>>
    Why Apple puts the worst batteries in the industry in iPhones is up for
    conjecture (e.g., to shorten iPhone lifespan, for greater profits), etc.

    Yada, yada, yada.

    Battery capacity needs to be matched with energy USAGE.

    You can tell what kind of a match you have simply by comparing the run
    times of various devices.

    There are only 12 smartphones tested by tomsguide.com that outlast the
    best iPhone for battery life.

    <https://www.tomsguide.com/us/smartphones-best-battery-life,review-2857.html>

    It really isn't any more complicated than that.

    The batteries failed Apple's own tests which followed EU test protocols.

    Cite, please.


    Why do you think Apple reported every iPhone battery except the battery in the iPhone 15 failed the standard test which every OEM has to obey today?

    Cite, please.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Jul 4 17:41:04 2024
    On 2024-07-04, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-07-03 21:47, david wrote:

    The batteries failed Apple's own tests which followed EU test
    protocols.

    Cite, please.

    Why do you think Apple reported every iPhone battery except the
    battery in the iPhone 15 failed the standard test which every OEM has
    to obey today?

    Cite, please.

    Don't hold your breath.

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  • From david@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Thu Jul 4 14:10:02 2024
    Using <news:leo55gFkdk4U5@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger wrote:

    The batteries failed Apple's own tests which followed EU test
    protocols.

    Cite, please.

    Why do you think Apple reported every iPhone battery except the
    battery in the iPhone 15 failed the standard test which every OEM has
    to obey today?

    Cite, please.

    Don't hold your breath.

    I'll hold my breath for you to wait for you to read the cite in the OP.

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