On 2024-11-27 15:00, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2024-11-27, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

On 2024-11-27 09:12, *Hemidactylus* wrote:

Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

On 2024-11-24 23:04, -hh wrote:

No, I

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I fully agree with you, but find this a losing battle. <S>

It doesn't matter. I've found many other groups where there are more
people who are:

-polite
-humble and/or genuinely subject matter experts (and not snide about it)
-can talk about a shortcoming of iPhones v. Android w/o making it a
black and white battle for the souls of the human race
-broader range of valuable inputs and insights
-no trolls (not very long anyway)
-no moderation delay - but a-holes get ejected within hours if not minutes >>
So I tell myself at least once per week not to bother coming here ...
and one day (probably soon) I will heed my own advice. And by "here"
I mean usenet (I use about 6 NG's).

Same, because the signal to noise ratio here is substandard due to the unchecked trolling activity. Look at the group's current activity as an example.

Well, hate to chide you, but you respond to them a lot (I do too - just
not much) and that is their bread and butter.

Reddit is a vast area and it's hard to find "the right place" (I don't
spend enough time on it, so hard to find "the right place").

You have some control over what shows up in your Home feed on Reddit. So
your place can look however you want in that respect. And there are moderators (though that can cut both ways).

Doesn't it always? Stiff moderation can kill a groups as easily as trolls.

That's what's been pleasant on the Telegram group I'm in - so far
everyone is cool and polite - don't really know "who" moderates it.
(But they are there - and there are rules).

Yep, looking like December on I will be absent - maybe check in in 6
months...

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the culture and independence of the ancient States of Europe."
Winston Churchill

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On 2024-11-29, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

On 2024-11-27 15:00, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2024-11-27, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

So I tell myself at least once per week not to bother coming here
... and one day (probably soon) I will heed my own advice. And by
"here" I mean usenet (I use about 6 NG's).

Same, because the signal to noise ratio here is substandard due to
the unchecked trolling activity. Look at the group's current activity
as an example.

Well, hate to chide you, but you respond to them a lot (I do too -
just not much) and that is their bread and butter.

Not lately, I haven't. Time to update your counter.

Reddit is a vast area and it's hard to find "the right place" (I
don't spend enough time on it, so hard to find "the right place").

You have some control over what shows up in your Home feed on Reddit.
So your place can look however you want in that respect. And there
are moderators (though that can cut both ways).

Doesn't it always? Stiff moderation can kill a groups as easily as
trolls.

That's not what is happening on Reddit though. Moderation has its flaws,
but the most popular subreddits have moderators that deal with trolls
pretty efficiently overall, which is why those groups aren't constantly disrupted by the like of Arlen.

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JR

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On 2024-11-29 13:33, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2024-11-29, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

On 2024-11-27 15:00, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2024-11-27, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

So I tell myself at least once per week not to bother coming here
... and one day (probably soon) I will heed my own advice. And by
"here" I mean usenet (I use about 6 NG's).

Same, because the signal to noise ratio here is substandard due to
the unchecked trolling activity. Look at the group's current activity
as an example.

Well, hate to chide you, but you respond to them a lot (I do too -
just not much) and that is their bread and butter.

Not lately, I haven't. Time to update your counter.

Good for you. I don't count much.

Reddit is a vast area and it's hard to find "the right place" (I
don't spend enough time on it, so hard to find "the right place").

You have some control over what shows up in your Home feed on Reddit.
So your place can look however you want in that respect. And there
are moderators (though that can cut both ways).

Doesn't it always? Stiff moderation can kill a groups as easily as
trolls.

That's not what is happening on Reddit though. Moderation has its flaws,
but the most popular subreddits have moderators that deal with trolls
pretty efficiently overall, which is why those groups aren't constantly disrupted by the like of Arlen.

Which is why trolls are pushed to where there is no moderation.

There used to be moderated usenet groups - but they fared poorly as the "response time" was very slow - and that sucked the oxygen out of the experience...

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"It would be a measureless disaster if Russian barbarism overlaid
the culture and independence of the ancient States of Europe."
Winston Churchill

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