• Re: Apple acknowledges AI errors in latest fix

    From Alan@21:1/5 to Chris on Tue Jan 7 00:18:49 2025
    On 2025-01-07 00:04, Chris wrote:

    The BBC have reported several issues with wildly wrong AI-generated news summaries over the last few weeks. Apple has now said that the Apple Intelligence features are in "beta" and will be "clarified" in a future update.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cge93de21n0o

    Is AppInt going to be a massive white elephant? At the moment it's
    certainly discouraging me from upgrading my phone rather than the other way around.

    Why?

    You can opt out of using it if you prefer.

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  • From Nick Charles@21:1/5 to Chris on Tue Jan 7 09:42:55 2025
    On 1/7/2025 3:04 AM, Chris wrote:

    The BBC have reported several issues with wildly wrong AI-generated news summaries over the last few weeks. Apple has now said that the Apple Intelligence features are in "beta" and will be "clarified" in a future update.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cge93de21n0o

    Lots of "AI" companies have/will be admitting to errors. "AI" is
    nowhere near ready to always answer questions correctly.

    For that reason - and many others - I ignore "AI" anything. I will read
    and make my own conclusions. I don't need a digital Magic 8 Ball to
    tell me what to do.

    Is AppInt going to be a massive white elephant? At the moment it's
    certainly discouraging me from upgrading my phone rather than the other way around.

    "AI" in general is already a white elephant. Billions of dollars
    invested with NO return at all. Microsoft has even given instructions
    on how to change the (originally dedicated) "Copilot" key on new Windows
    PC keyboards to a different (actually useful) function of your choice.

    And of course, there was the "Windows Recall" spyware disaster last
    year. It was quite amusing to watch MS backpedal on that.

    "AI" is now the biggest hype ever, surpassing "Y2K" 28 years ago. Yes,
    28 years ago. It started in 1997.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Chris on Tue Jan 7 09:08:01 2025
    On 2025-01-07 05:36, Chris wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-01-07 00:04, Chris wrote:

    The BBC have reported several issues with wildly wrong AI-generated news >>> summaries over the last few weeks. Apple has now said that the Apple
    Intelligence features are in "beta" and will be "clarified" in a future
    update.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cge93de21n0o

    Is AppInt going to be a massive white elephant? At the moment it's
    certainly discouraging me from upgrading my phone rather than the other way >>> around.

    Why?

    You can opt out of using it if you prefer.

    There's no point in upgrading if you disable all the new bits. Will keep watching to see how Apple "mature" the tech.


    Opting out of Apple Intelligence isn't "disabling all the new bits".

    I can see why it wouldn't ENcourage you to upgrade your phone, but if
    you don't want to use it, it should be NEUTRAL to you.

    Choose to upgrade as if it didn't exist.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Nick Charles on Wed Jan 8 10:23:38 2025
    On 2025-01-07 14:42:55 +0000, Nick Charles said:

    On 1/7/2025 3:04 AM, Chris wrote:

    The BBC have reported several issues with wildly wrong AI-generated news
    summaries over the last few weeks. Apple has now said that the Apple
    Intelligence features are in "beta" and will be "clarified" in a future
    update.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cge93de21n0o

    Lots of "AI" companies have/will be admitting to errors. "AI" is
    nowhere near ready to always answer questions correctly.

    For that reason - and many others - I ignore "AI" anything. I will
    read and make my own conclusions. I don't need a digital Magic 8 Ball
    to tell me what to do.

    Is AppInt going to be a massive white elephant? At the moment it's
    certainly discouraging me from upgrading my phone rather than the other way >> around.

    "AI" in general is already a white elephant. Billions of dollars
    invested with NO return at all. Microsoft has even given instructions
    on how to change the (originally dedicated) "Copilot" key on new
    Windows PC keyboards to a different (actually useful) function of your choice.

    And of course, there was the "Windows Recall" spyware disaster last
    year. It was quite amusing to watch MS backpedal on that.

    "AI" is now the biggest hype ever, surpassing "Y2K" 28 years ago. Yes,
    28 years ago. It started in 1997.

    Yep. AI is utter crap and simply the latest bandwagon for companies to
    jump onto by having "AI" in everything (who needs an AI kettle!?) to
    con fools into pointlesly upgrading since "Smart" things wasn't as
    successful as they'd hoped / hyped - no surprise there either. Same
    with idiotic "self-driving" cars. They'll never work properly either.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Your Name on Tue Jan 7 16:02:45 2025
    On 2025-01-07 13:23, Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-01-07 14:42:55 +0000, Nick Charles said:

    On 1/7/2025 3:04 AM, Chris wrote:

    The BBC have reported several issues with wildly wrong AI-generated news >>> summaries over the last few weeks. Apple has now said that the Apple
    Intelligence features are in "beta" and will be "clarified" in a future
    update.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cge93de21n0o

    Lots of "AI" companies have/will be admitting to errors.  "AI" is
    nowhere near ready to always answer questions correctly.

    For that reason - and many others - I ignore "AI" anything.  I will
    read and make my own conclusions.   I don't need a digital Magic 8
    Ball to tell me what to do.

    Is AppInt going to be a massive white elephant? At the moment it's
    certainly discouraging me from upgrading my phone rather than the
    other way
    around.

    "AI" in general is already a white elephant.  Billions of dollars
    invested with NO return at all.  Microsoft has even given instructions
    on how to change the (originally dedicated) "Copilot" key on new
    Windows PC keyboards to a different (actually useful) function of your
    choice.

    And of course, there was the "Windows Recall" spyware disaster last
    year.   It was quite amusing to watch MS backpedal on that.

    "AI" is now the biggest hype ever, surpassing "Y2K" 28 years ago.
    Yes, 28 years ago.  It started in 1997.

    Yep. AI is utter crap and simply the latest bandwagon for companies to
    jump onto by having "AI" in everything (who needs an AI kettle!?) to con fools into pointlesly upgrading since "Smart" things wasn't as
    successful as they'd hoped / hyped - no surprise there either. Same with idiotic "self-driving" cars. They'll never work properly either.



    I think AI is exactly like a lot of new technology:

    First, it's always "10 years away".

    Next, someone gets it working a little bit...

    ...and it gets hyped to the sky.

    Then, people notice that it isn't working as well as they thought it
    would from the hype...

    ...and the slamming begins.

    That's where we are right now with AI.

    :-)

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  • From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Jan 8 02:31:12 2025
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-01-07 05:36, Chris wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-01-07 00:04, Chris wrote:

    The BBC have reported several issues with wildly wrong AI-generated news >>>> summaries over the last few weeks. Apple has now said that the Apple
    Intelligence features are in "beta" and will be "clarified" in a future >>>> update.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cge93de21n0o

    Is AppInt going to be a massive white elephant? At the moment it's
    certainly discouraging me from upgrading my phone rather than the other way
    around.

    Why?

    You can opt out of using it if you prefer.

    There's no point in upgrading if you disable all the new bits. Will keep
    watching to see how Apple "mature" the tech.


    Opting out of Apple Intelligence isn't "disabling all the new bits".

    I can see why it wouldn't ENcourage you to upgrade your phone, but if
    you don't want to use it, it should be NEUTRAL to you.

    Choose to upgrade as if it didn't exist.

    Or stay off the new phone every year treadmill.

    My sole interaction with ChatGPT over a book I was reading was amusingly
    mixed in results. Some of the obligatory AI summaries in Google search
    results are ok, but not even up to Wikipedia level reliability. My
    favorites are AI rendered results on images in Canva. That’s where the
    wheels start coming off the bus. As for AI images ratdickgate takes the
    cake.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/scientific-journal-frontiers-publishes-ai-generated-rat-with-gigantic-penis-in-worrying-incident/

    But still I’m sticking with my iPhone 13 til I can’t anymore.

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  • From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to Chris on Wed Jan 8 02:34:08 2025
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    The BBC have reported several issues with wildly wrong AI-generated news summaries over the last few weeks. Apple has now said that the Apple Intelligence features are in "beta" and will be "clarified" in a future update.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cge93de21n0o

    Is AppInt going to be a massive white elephant? At the moment it's
    certainly discouraging me from upgrading my phone rather than the other way around.

    The way AI is progressing so far we will be lucky to get: “Me fiend on
    Saran Kanye may me seen her’s ok?”

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 8 16:14:17 2025
    On 2025-01-08 02:31:12 +0000, *Hemidactylus* said:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-01-07 05:36, Chris wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-01-07 00:04, Chris wrote:

    The BBC have reported several issues with wildly wrong AI-generated news >>>>> summaries over the last few weeks. Apple has now said that the Apple >>>>> Intelligence features are in "beta" and will be "clarified" in a future >>>>> update.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cge93de21n0o

    Is AppInt going to be a massive white elephant? At the moment it's
    certainly discouraging me from upgrading my phone rather than the other way
    around.

    Why?

    You can opt out of using it if you prefer.

    There's no point in upgrading if you disable all the new bits. Will keep >>> watching to see how Apple "mature" the tech.

    Opting out of Apple Intelligence isn't "disabling all the new bits".

    I can see why it wouldn't ENcourage you to upgrade your phone, but if
    you don't want to use it, it should be NEUTRAL to you.

    Choose to upgrade as if it didn't exist.

    Or stay off the new phone every year treadmill.

    My sole interaction with ChatGPT over a book I was reading was amusingly mixed in results. Some of the obligatory AI summaries in Google search results are ok, but not even up to Wikipedia level reliability. My
    favorites are AI rendered results on images in Canva. That’s where the wheels start coming off the bus. As for AI images ratdickgate takes the
    cake.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/scientific-journal-frontiers-publishes-ai-generated-rat-with-gigantic-penis-in-worrying-incident/


    But still I’m sticking with my iPhone 13 til I can’t anymore.

    The real problem is that so many people are trusting this over-hyped AI
    garbage for important things, such as medical diagnosis. Thanks to the
    useless nature of AI and its easily made horible mistakes, there will
    be LOTS of people going undiagnosed and LOTS of people being
    misdiagnosed. X-( Some of these places claim they have real people
    checking the AI results, so what's the point of bothering with the
    useless AI in the first place?!

    Like "smart" technology that never worked properly either, AI is just
    another pointless fad used to make money by the greedy tech giants and startups.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 7 18:58:05 2025
    On 2025-01-07 18:31, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-01-07 05:36, Chris wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2025-01-07 00:04, Chris wrote:

    The BBC have reported several issues with wildly wrong AI-generated news >>>>> summaries over the last few weeks. Apple has now said that the Apple >>>>> Intelligence features are in "beta" and will be "clarified" in a future >>>>> update.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cge93de21n0o

    Is AppInt going to be a massive white elephant? At the moment it's
    certainly discouraging me from upgrading my phone rather than the other way
    around.

    Why?

    You can opt out of using it if you prefer.

    There's no point in upgrading if you disable all the new bits. Will keep >>> watching to see how Apple "mature" the tech.


    Opting out of Apple Intelligence isn't "disabling all the new bits".

    I can see why it wouldn't ENcourage you to upgrade your phone, but if
    you don't want to use it, it should be NEUTRAL to you.

    Choose to upgrade as if it didn't exist.

    Or stay off the new phone every year treadmill.

    I never suggested you should be ON that treadmill.

    My point is that Apple's AI efforts shouldn't play a role in one's decision.


    My sole interaction with ChatGPT over a book I was reading was amusingly mixed in results. Some of the obligatory AI summaries in Google search results are ok, but not even up to Wikipedia level reliability. My
    favorites are AI rendered results on images in Canva. That’s where the wheels start coming off the bus. As for AI images ratdickgate takes the
    cake.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/scientific-journal-frontiers-publishes-ai-generated-rat-with-gigantic-penis-in-worrying-incident/

    But still I’m sticking with my iPhone 13 til I can’t anymore.
    Hey.. ...I had an iPhone 8 until about a month ago.

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