• Comparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 12

    From Marion@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 21 04:21:07 2025
    iPhone 12
    vs
    iPhone 16e

    iPhone 12 Display:
    - 6.1" OLED w/ larger notch
    - 625 nits of brightness
    vs
    iPhone 16e Display:
    - 6.1" OLED w/ smaller notch
    - 800 nits of brightness

    iPhone 12 Camera:
    - Wide: 12MP
    - Ultrawide: 12MP
    vs
    iPhone 16e Camera:
    - Wide: 48MP
    - Ultrawide: N/A

    iPhone 12 Processor:
    - Apple A14:
    - 6 core CPU
    - 4 core GPU
    - 16 core Neural Engine
    vs
    iPhone 16e Processor:
    - Apple A18:
    - 6 core CPU
    - 4 core GPU
    - 16 core Neural Engine

    iPhone 12 Charging:
    - Lightning up to 20W
    - MagSafe up to 15W
    vs
    iPhone 16e Charging:
    - USB-C up to 20W
    - Qi charging up to 7.5W

    iPhone 12 Apple Intelligence:
    - No support
    vs
    iPhone 16e Apple Intelligence:
    - Fully supported

    iPhone 12 Connectivity:
    - Wi-Fi 6
    - Bluetooth 5.0
    - Sub-6GHz and mmWave 5G
    vs
    iPhone 16e Connectivity:
    - Wi-Fi 6
    - Bluetooth 5.3
    - Sub-6GHz 5G

    iPhone 12 Battery:
    - 17 hours of claimed video playback
    vs
    iPhone 16e Battery:
    - 26 hours of video playback

    iPhone 12 Additional features:
    - Ring/mute switch
    - Emergency SOS
    - N/A
    - N/A
    vs
    iPhone 16e Additional features:
    - Action Button
    - Emergency SOS via Satellite
    - Crash Detection
    - Photographic Styles

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  • From MummyChunk@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 23 07:36:16 2025
    Marion wrote:
    iPhone 12
    vs
    iPhone 16e

    iPhone 12 Display:
    - 6.1" OLED w/ larger notch
    - 625 nits of brightness
    vs
    iPhone 16e Display:
    - 6.1" OLED w/ smaller notch
    - 800 nits of brightness

    iPhone 12 Camera:
    - Wide: 12MP
    - Ultrawide: 12MP
    vs
    iPhone 16e Camera:
    - Wide: 48MP
    - Ultrawide: N/A

    iPhone 12 Processor:
    - Apple A14:
    - 6 core CPU
    - 4 core GPU
    - 16 core Neural Engine
    vs
    iPhone 16e Processor:
    - Apple A18:
    - 6 core CPU
    - 4 core GPU
    - 16 core Neural Engine

    iPhone 12 Charging:
    - Lightning up to 20W
    - MagSafe up to 15W
    vs
    iPhone 16e Charging:
    - USB-C up to 20W
    - Qi charging up to 7.5W

    iPhone 12 Apple Intelligence:
    - No support
    vs
    iPhone 16e Apple Intelligence:
    - Fully supported

    iPhone 12 Connectivity:
    - Wi-Fi 6
    - Bluetooth 5.0
    - Sub-6GHz and mmWave 5G
    vs
    iPhone 16e Connectivity:
    - Wi-Fi 6
    - Bluetooth 5.3
    - Sub-6GHz 5G

    iPhone 12 Battery:
    - 17 hours of claimed video playback
    vs
    iPhone 16e Battery:
    - 26 hours of video playback

    iPhone 12 Additional features:
    - Ring/mute switch
    - Emergency SOS
    - N/A
    - N/A
    vs
    iPhone 16e Additional features:
    - Action Button
    - Emergency SOS via Satellite
    - Crash Detection
    - Photographic Styles


    Thanks for the comparison. "


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=684259343#684259343

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  • From Marion@21:1/5 to Ant on Mon Feb 24 03:06:48 2025
    On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 02:19:41 +0000, Ant wrote :


    Or https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-12,iphone-16e which is nicer and easier to read. ;)

    I wasn't aware of that comparison page, which I agree with Ant as being
    quite nice.

    I'm trying to find out what's good about the iPhone 16e where I've already posted some articles which basically lambasted it as too little too much.

    Here is another where I'll summarize the details for the team:
    <https://9to5mac.com/2025/02/19/apple-unveils-new-iphone-16e-heres-everything-you-need-to-know/>
    A18 chip & 48MP back camera & 12MP front & C1 modem
    USB-C (instead of the old deprecated lightning standard nobody cared for)
    $600 for 128GB with no chance in hell of modern expansion capability
    6.1-inch OLED display with a notch & Face ID only
    Action button instead of the mute switch
    Wireless charging support & Crash detection
    Messages via satellite, Emergency SOS via satellite, Find My via satellite

    What's very interesting is that nospam & the Apple trolls claimed USB-C was
    "not needed" & "not wanted"
    Every article claims that USB-C support is a feature (benefit).

    Fancy that.
    The Apple trolls were wrong.

    How could it possibly be that USB-C is a "good thing" after all?

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Marion on Mon Feb 24 02:19:41 2025
    Or https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-12,iphone-16e which is nicer and easier to read. ;)


    Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
    iPhone 12
    vs
    iPhone 16e

    iPhone 12 Display:
    - 6.1" OLED w/ larger notch
    - 625 nits of brightness
    vs
    iPhone 16e Display:
    - 6.1" OLED w/ smaller notch
    - 800 nits of brightness

    iPhone 12 Camera:
    - Wide: 12MP
    - Ultrawide: 12MP
    vs
    iPhone 16e Camera:
    - Wide: 48MP
    - Ultrawide: N/A

    iPhone 12 Processor:
    - Apple A14:
    - 6 core CPU
    - 4 core GPU
    - 16 core Neural Engine
    vs
    iPhone 16e Processor:
    - Apple A18:
    - 6 core CPU
    - 4 core GPU
    - 16 core Neural Engine

    iPhone 12 Charging:
    - Lightning up to 20W
    - MagSafe up to 15W
    vs
    iPhone 16e Charging:
    - USB-C up to 20W
    - Qi charging up to 7.5W

    iPhone 12 Apple Intelligence:
    - No support
    vs
    iPhone 16e Apple Intelligence:
    - Fully supported

    iPhone 12 Connectivity:
    - Wi-Fi 6
    - Bluetooth 5.0
    - Sub-6GHz and mmWave 5G
    vs
    iPhone 16e Connectivity:
    - Wi-Fi 6
    - Bluetooth 5.3
    - Sub-6GHz 5G

    iPhone 12 Battery:
    - 17 hours of claimed video playback
    vs
    iPhone 16e Battery:
    - 26 hours of video playback

    iPhone 12 Additional features:
    - Ring/mute switch
    - Emergency SOS
    - N/A
    - N/A
    vs
    iPhone 16e Additional features:
    - Action Button
    - Emergency SOS via Satellite
    - Crash Detection
    - Photographic Styles

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Marion on Sun Feb 23 19:29:46 2025
    On 2025-02-23 19:06, Marion wrote:
    On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 02:19:41 +0000, Ant wrote :


    Or https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?
    modelList=iphone-12,iphone-16e which is nicer and easier to read. ;)

    I wasn't aware of that comparison page, which I agree with Ant as being
    quite nice.

    I'm trying to find out what's good about the iPhone 16e where I've already posted some articles which basically lambasted it as too little too much.

    Here is another where I'll summarize the details for the team: <https://9to5mac.com/2025/02/19/apple-unveils-new-iphone-16e-heres- everything-you-need-to-know/>
    A18 chip & 48MP back camera & 12MP front & C1 modem
    USB-C (instead of the old deprecated lightning standard nobody cared for) $600 for 128GB with no chance in hell of modern expansion capability
    6.1-inch OLED display with a notch & Face ID only
    Action button instead of the mute switch
    Wireless charging support & Crash detection
    Messages via satellite, Emergency SOS via satellite, Find My via satellite

    What's very interesting is that nospam & the Apple trolls claimed USB-C
    was  "not needed" &  "not wanted"
    Every article claims that USB-C support is a feature (benefit).

    Fancy that.
    The Apple trolls were wrong.

    How could it possibly be that USB-C is a "good thing" after all?

    Straw man.

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  • From Marion@21:1/5 to Marion on Fri Feb 28 07:29:33 2025
    On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 04:21:07 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :


    iPhone 12 Battery:
    - 17 hours of claimed video playback
    vs
    iPhone 16e Battery:
    - 26 hours of video playback

    Since we strive to *understand* Apple products, it behooves us to
    understand what the facts are on the dismal Apple battery capacity.

    For such an expensive phone, the iPhone 16e battery capacity is pathetic
    "iPhone 16e has a battery capacity of 3961 mAh"
    <https://9to5mac.com/2025/02/27/iphone-16e-battery-comparison/>

    Yet, the iPhone 12 has an even more pathetic battery capacity of 2,815 mAh.

    No wonder Apple is no longer allowed to sell the iPhone 12 in the EU after
    this summer due to the pitiful number of lifetime charge cycles before the battery drops below 80% (which Apple must certify to sell in the EU).

    As feeble as the iPhone 16 e battery capacity is, at least the iPhone 16e battery has a 141% bigger capacity than the lame iPhone 12 battery had.

    Note: My free $200 MSRP Galaxy A32-5G from 2021 has a 5 Amp Hour battery.

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