Direct quote:
"Regardless of the film's quality, or your feelings about notifications
that straddle the line of a useful deal and an ad, this is
aggressively thirsty."
<https://www.theverge.com/news/692276/apple-wallet-notification-f1-movie-ad>

Note that recently Tyrone called an ad from T-Mobile "malware" so that's
why this is similar malware - only much (much!) worse since it comes from
Apple directly.

Fancy that.

Apple malware spews unwanted ads onto your iOS device.
And you can't even stop them.

At least on Android, you can stop them.
But not iOS. You have no choice on iOS when Apple wants to send you ads.

Let's see how the Apple trolls defend this case of Apple malware ads.

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On 2025-06-24 22:01, Marion wrote:

Direct quote:
"Regardless of the film's quality, or your feelings about notifications
that straddle the line of a useful deal and an ad, this is
aggressively thirsty."
<https://www.theverge.com/news/692276/apple-wallet-notification-f1-movie-ad>

Note that recently Tyrone called an ad from T-Mobile "malware" so that's
why this is similar malware - only much (much!) worse since it comes from Apple directly.

Fancy that.

Apple malware spews unwanted ads onto your iOS device.
And you can't even stop them.

At least on Android, you can stop them.
But not iOS. You have no choice on iOS when Apple wants to send you ads.

Let's see how the Apple trolls defend this case of Apple malware ads.

Tell us:

What makes that "malware"?

'Malware (a portmanteau of malicious software)[1] is any software
intentionally designed to cause disruption to a computer, server,
client, or computer network, leak private information, gain unauthorized
access to information or systems, deprive access to information, or
which unknowingly interferes with the user's computer security and privacy.'

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malware>

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On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:46:38 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :

Note that recently Tyrone called an ad from T-Mobile "malware" so
that's why this is similar malware - only much (much!) worse since it
comes from Apple directly.

I'm not sure I would call this "malware", but I see that you are
comparing it directly to what another user said.

Hi badgolferman ,

Thank you for understanding EXACTLY why I called it 'malware', which is
what the Apple trolls called the T-Mobile "Sliide" advertising screen.

What's really happening is the Apple trolls, who bought Apple products out
of pure religious herd-animal zealotry, are *desperate* to claim something (anything!) in iOS is "better" than it is on Android. Tyrone was so
*desperate* to claim there's more "malware" on Android, that Tryone called
the ad from T-Mobile malware.

So, using the same faulty logic that Tyrone used, I called it malware.
But you & I both know it's not malware - but the Apple trolls call it that.

What it is though, is an "aggressive" unwanted ad by Apple.
And that's what the article was complaining about.
"Regardless of the film's quality, or your feelings about notifications
that straddle the line of a useful deal and an ad, this is
aggressively thirsty."
<https://www.theverge.com/news/692276/apple-wallet-notification-f1-movie-ad>

Apple is desperate (they called it "thirsty") to put ads on your phone!
And you can't stop them from doing that.

I'm not thrilled about Apple pushing advertisements on my phone, but
that F1 advertisement wasn't the only one. There also was one for an
Apple credit card right next to it. Fortunately clicking the little x
made them both go away.

Thank you for that detail, where, let's be clear, I agree with anyone who
makes a logically defensible argument. I agree, both Apple and T-Mobile
made it trivially easy to get rid of the trespassing ad by clicking (X).

That is further agreement that it's not "malware" since both companies (T-Mobile and Apple) were very polite about making the ad go away.

But how do we convince Tyrone that it's not malware when he says it is?

That reminds me, Microsoft has many of these advertisements on its
Windows 11 platform

There is a classic "gotcha" which Apple users often fall into, which is
they "think" they know how other operating systems, work; but they don't.

You "may" have fallen prey to that tendency of Apple users to think they
know how other operating systems operate, based on tidbits of data points.

My wife's laptop is on Windows 11 and I haven't seen an ad but I just
looked it up (since I'm not an Apple troll, I look things up - fancy that).

There are 'ads' (i.e., suggestions) in Win11; but you can turn them off.
1. Settings > Personalization > Start:
"Show recommendations for tips, shortcuts, new apps, and more"

2. Settings > Privacy & Security > General:
"Let apps show me personalized ads by using my advertising ID"
"Show me suggested content in the Settings app"

3. Settings > System > Notifications > Additional settings:
"Show the Windows welcome experience"
"Suggest ways to get the most out of Windows"
"Get tips and suggestions"

4. Settings > Personalization > Lock screen:
Change your background from "Windows spotlight" to either
"Picture" or to "Slideshow" and then uncheck
"Get fun facts, tips, tricks, and more on your lock screen"

5. File Explorer > Options > View tab:
"Show sync provider notifications"

Thank you for bringing this to the fore, as I was unaware of these.
I will check my wife's laptop, but to leverage this knowledge, as I am wont
to do, I will post this information to the Windows 11 newsgroup.

That way your information will help others learn, and we both will learn
more by asking the Windows 11 newsgroup if that removes all the ads.
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/search.php?group=alt.comp.os.windows-11>

Thank you VERY MUCH for informing me of this Microsoft ad policy!

and I'm fairly sure Samsung pushes them on the Galaxy phones.

Thank you for saying that as "fairly sure" as I've never seen ads.

On my Samsung Galaxy A-series, I have not seen an ad until that T-Mobile ad popped up, which is why it was so unusual as I never see any ads.

So I must ask you, nicely so, why you think there are ads when I haven't
seen those ads that you think are on Samsung devices?

And now streaming services like YouTube, Netflix,
Peacock, Hulu, etc. also force you to watch advertisements unless you
pay for a higher tier of service.

Thank you for bringing that up, but I get YouTube without ads for free.
<https://newpipe.net>

I don't like the Apple advertisements, but honestly I didn't even know
these two were there until I read your article.

Thank you badgolferman for being logical and sensible where it's refreshing
to carry on a normal adult conversation on any Apple Usenet newsgroup.

There are precious few posters to Apple newsgroups who are not religious zealots, so it's heartening that you can carry on a normal conversation.

Better yet, I *learned* from you that Microsoft Windows 11 has ads.
I was not aware of that but I will do the two things above I said.

That way I learn from every (adult) interaction on this newsgroup.
Thanks!
--
Here is the Windows 11 thread that resulted from your useful data!
*Can you turn all the Microsoft-served ads off in Windows 11 - or not?*
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2025
Message-ID: <103hrc6$2cck$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>

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On 2025-06-25 15:04, Marion wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:46:38 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :

Note that recently Tyrone called an ad from T-Mobile "malware" so
that's why this is similar malware - only much (much!) worse since it
comes from Apple directly.

I'm not sure I would call this "malware", but I see that you are
comparing it directly to what another user said.

Hi badgolferman ,

Thank you for understanding EXACTLY why I called it 'malware', which is
what the Apple trolls called the T-Mobile "Sliide" advertising screen.

Cite, please!

What's really happening is the Apple trolls, who bought Apple products out
of pure religious herd-animal zealotry, are *desperate* to claim something (anything!) in iOS is "better" than it is on Android. Tyrone was so *desperate* to claim there's more "malware" on Android, that Tryone called the ad from T-Mobile malware.

So, using the same faulty logic that Tyrone used, I called it malware.
But you & I both know it's not malware - but the Apple trolls call it that.

Quote, please!

What it is though, is an "aggressive" unwanted ad by Apple.

What makes it '"aggressive"'?

And that's what the article was complaining about.
"Regardless of the film's quality, or your feelings about notifications
that straddle the line of a useful deal and an ad, this is
aggressively thirsty."
<https://www.theverge.com/news/692276/apple-wallet-notification-f1-movie-ad>

One writer's opinion does not a fact make.

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On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:22:09 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :

That is further agreement that it's not "malware" since both companies
(T-Mobile and Apple) were very polite about making the ad go away.

Was the T-Mobile ad a T-Mobile Tuesdays notification or was it something within the T-Life app itself? I get notifications sometimes.

Hi badgolferman,

It's a long story to answer your question, so I would just says it wasn't
an advertisement, per se like the Apple advertisement appears to be.

It was a fullpage video news story that popped up and went away easily.
Since I didn't invoke a fullpage video news story, I knew something did.
*Warning: Check your phone for unwanted "Sliide" intrusive full-page video spam*
<https://comp.mobile.android.narkive.com/gwmr7UwY/warning-check-your-phone-for-unwanted-sliide-intrusive-full-page-video-spam>

While iOS is completely brain dead, Android is a real operating system.
So I was able to easily find the exact name of what brought it up.

And then, again, since Android is a real operating system (unlike iOS), I
was easily able to again delete the app that T-Mobile installed June 5th.
<https://i.postimg.cc/vTrHTPB2/t-mobile-play.jpg>

Did I say "again"? Yup. T-Mobile added back a package that I had long ago deleted, so I deleted it again and I also checked my entire phone for any
other activity of a similar name (which is what brain-dead iOS can't do).

As I am wont to do, I wrote tutorials so that everyone else can do what I
can do on Android, but you can't do anything like it on the brain-dead iOS.

Those tutorials were tested in all the important operating setups, namely Linux, command-line (Windows), and Powershell (Windows) which matter.

You can't do anything like this with iOS, unfortunately, so it's foreign to
you that you have that much power over what an operating system does.

It's actually shocking how brain dead iOS is compared to Android when you
need to identify and delete things that suddenly pop up, but that's life.

It's more proof iOS isn't an operating system; it's more a dumb TV screen. Anyway, it wasn't an advertisement, per se.

It was video news story that T-Mobile added via a company called Sliide.
But it's gone now.

Meanwhile, iOS still has ads because you can't delete them on iOS.
They come from Apple.
Sigh.

But how do we convince Tyrone that it's not malware when he says it is?

I'm not even sure Tyrone is who he says he is, so don't waste your breath.

Yup. Tyrone is most likely someone who has been here before.

At first I thought Tyrone was nospam.
Mostly because he defended Apple to the death exactly as nospam does.

But Tyrone knows Windows networking better than nospam does.
The fact was nospam didn't know anything whatsoever outside of Apple.

But Tyrone is most likely one of the previous posters to Apple newsgroups.

However, Tyrone likely isn't one of the classic Apple trolls (like Alan
Baker or Your Name or Jolly Roger or even Chris, as none of them know
anything about Windows; but still, he's someone who knows the history here.

So I must ask you, nicely so, why you think there are ads when I haven't
seen those ads that you think are on Samsung devices?

My eldest son used to complain about all the bloatware and ads on his
Samsung Galaxy years ago. He switched to Google Pixel and was pleased with the difference in experience when it comes to pop ups and such. I think
they were Samsung ads and such.

Well, I thank you for bringing this topic of ads on other systems, as you
know I'm a main proponent of UNDERSTANDING the differences between them.

I've confirmed that Windows 11 has "suggestions" from Microsoft.
And that you can turn most (if not all) of them off.

To my query on the Windows 11 newsgroup, Paul supplied this link:
*How to disable Microsoft Ads and Recommendations in Windows 11*
<https://www.howtogeek.com/how-to-disable-microsofts-ads-and-recommendations-in-windows-11/>

Since I never see ads on my wife's Windows 11, and since I originally set
it up from Windows S top Windows 10 Home (she migrated to Windows 11), I am "fairly sure" that this process disables all those ads you taught me about.

But if there are still ads in Windows 11, I'll keep my eye out for them.
Plus the thread I opened should, over time, flesh out if they still exist.

As for Samsung, I've never seen an ad, but what is hugely different between
a Pixel and a Samsung is the operating system Settings are different.

The Pixel is straight Android. The settings are exactly as documented.
The Galaxies have various Samsung overlays to the Android settings.

Other than that, there's no difference in the advertising, and, in fact, I never see ads on any of my Android phones - but of course, I'm not stupid.

I set up my phone for privacy so if an ad shows up, it's time to kill it.
Which is what I did when that video news story popped up from T-Mobile.
*Warning: Check your phone for unwanted "Sliide" intrusive full-page video spam*
<https://comp.mobile.android.narkive.com/gwmr7UwY/warning-check-your-phone-for-unwanted-sliide-intrusive-full-page-video-spam>

It's my humble opinion that if an advertising shows up on any computer
device, then that computer device is set up incorrectly by the user.

Of course, on iOS, there's no way to stop the intrusive ads by Apple.
Which is the point of this thread after all. Sigh.

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On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 03:05:14 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :

As I am wont to do, I wrote tutorials so that everyone else can do what I
can do on Android, but you can't do anything like it on the brain-dead iOS.

I forgot to enter the link to the tutorial, which, I might observe, adds
more value than all the value ever posted by the Apple trolls to this ng.
*Tutorial: How to use a PC to find (& kill!) a rogue Android activity & its offending package*
<https://comp.mobile.android.narkive.com/qpP2TLVf/tutorial-how-to-use-a-pc-to-find-kill-a-rogue-android-activity-its-offending-package>

Think about that presciently astute observation.

Just one tutorial is more value added than the Apple trolls have added in
their entire lives. That's how I know they have no education to speak of.

Not a single Apple troll has ever made it past a high school education.
That's a fundamental reason why they're religious zealots to the core.

Apple trolls have no capacity to understand anything even slightly complex. Which is why they are herd animals to the core.

They trust the decision of the herd.
It's a survival mechanism, much like defenseless herbivores use.

To them, there is safety in numbers.
Which is why they want me, a fast & intelligent predator, to go away.

I'm a danger to Apple trolls.
Because I bring facts to the table.

Those are my sharp teeth.
Facts.

And I stalk them with logic and sense.
The Apple trolls are herd animals with no defense to those weapons.

So they fear me.
So be it.

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