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On Mon, 4 Aug 2025 12:04:39 -0700, sms wrote :

I think that the one thing is MDM, (Mobile Device Management) which is
why many corporations, that provide company phones, use iPhones.

My wife's former employer (she's now retired), buys tens of thousands of iPhones (and AirPods) for employees. The iPhones are locked down tight
due to HIPAA, using MDM. She had to carry a separate personal phone.

When she first started at that company they were using Nextel, which was
a nightmare because the employees frequently traveled to more remote
areas of the county where Nextel had no coverage.

Also, because of HIPAA, the Nextel PTT (Push To Talk) feature could not
be used (the employees used to call it PTA (Push To Annoy)). Then they
tried Sprint, after Sprint bought Nextel, but that was no better in
terms of coverage. Only AT&T and Verizon have adequate coverage in
Silicon Valley, so employees were often using their personal phones even
for work. Thankfully, the company eventually switched to Verizon.

I still recall my sister-in-law, who switched from a Samsung Android
phone to an iPhone, trying to set different volumes for ring and notifications (which she needed to do at work) and me explaining to her
that the iPhone doesn't have that capability. She didn't believe me, and
went to an Apple store in the mall to the Genius Bar, where they told
her the same thing. iPhone sill lacks that capability, unless you
Jailbreak <http://aidyc.saurik.com/package/net.midkin.smartvolumemixer/>
or <http://apt.thebigboss.org/onepackage.php?bundleid=com.brend0n.volumemixer&db=>
but I doubt if these still work.

It's refreshing that both Steve & badgolferman brought up highly advertised
& therefore obvious iOS capabilities that seemingly don't exist on Android.

I know nothing about MDM, so I looked it up, where it appears that MDM
is alive & well on Android, through Android Enterprise, which includes:
a. Zero-touch enrollment for large-scale deployments
b. Work profiles to separate personal & corporate data
c. Remote app distribution via Managed Google Play
d. Policy enforcement, remote wipe & device tracking
e. Security features like encryption, passcode enforcement & geofencing REFERENCES:
<https://www.android.com/enterprise/management/>
<https://expertinsights.com/endpoint-management/the-top-mobile-device-management-solutions-for-android>
<https://blog.scalefusion.com/top-android-mdm-solutions/>

Apparently Android MDM solutions like Scalefusion, Microsoft Intune,
VMware Workspace ONE, and IBM MaaS360 offer enterprise-grade controls
that rival or exceed iOS in flexibility based on numerous articles.
REFERENCES:
<https://simplemdm.com/blog/apple-mdm-vs-android-mdm/>
<https://www.techtarget.com/searchmobilecomputing/post/Evaluating-top-MDMs-for-Android-and-iOS>

It's a completely different question of why some corporations prefer iOS
over Android (and vice versa, of course), where some of those reasons may be
A. Uniformity:
Apple's limited device lineup makes fleet management simpler.
B. Security reputation:
Apple's closed ecosystem is perceived as more secure by the unknowing.
C. Apple Business Manager:
Offers streamlined deployment and integration with tools like Jamf.

But this doesn't mean Android can't do MDM; it just means Apple's approach
may be more appealing for certain IT teams or compliance needs.

In summary, Steve has been great in keeping tabs on what iOS and
Android can and cannot do - which I give him credit for a valiant
effort - however - my research above shows Android has MDM too.

As such, Steve needs to be apprised that MDM isn't exclusive to iOS.
Since I think he blocks me, someone else may need to let him know.

Android Enterprise offers comprehensive device management, including
zero-touch enrollment, work profiles and remote policy enforcement.

The real difference lies in implementation.

Apple's ecosystem is more uniform, which some IT departments prefer
for simplicity. But Android's flexibility and depth, especially with
tools like Scalefusion or Intune, make it equally viable, especially
for BYOD or diverse device fleets.

So while iPhones may be popular in some corporate settings, it's not
because Android lacks MDM. It's often just a matter of preference.

In short, as far as I can tell with research, Steve needs to rethink
the MDM but I am impressed that Steve is helping to answer the question.

The question therefore remains unanswered as far as I can tell...

Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
A: ?

Is there anything else iOS can do that Android doesn't already do?

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On Mon, 4 Aug 2025 11:56:08 -0400, badgolferman wrote :

Does your company recommend the use of anti-malware software on Apple
devices and computers?

Mine does not, but all our devices are MDM controlled or behind the
corporate firewall.

Hi badgolferman,

Bear in mind MDM is alive & well on Android also, but more to your point,
all mobile devices are insecure, whether they be iOS based or Android.
<https://www.comparitech.com/blog/vpn-privacy/ios-malware-stats-and-facts/>

Apple's are particularly insecure, but all of them, Android included, are
so chock full of holes that even comparing the number becomes useless.

Sure, iOS has 1-1/2 times the number of known exploits than Android
<https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog>
many of which are in the kernel and in WebKit underlying all browsers.

But even Android has 2/3rds the number of known exploits than iOS has.

Probably what the person was alluding to is Android has more malware than
iOS, which is true, but which is a misleading figure often misused to claim that iOS has no malware (which isn't true), especially since both the iOS kernel and Webkit are horridly insecure as shown by the Pegasus record.

Zero-click exploits like Pegasus have targeted iOS devices using vulnerabilities in iMessage and Safari for example. Malware like GoldPickaxe.iOS has been used to steal facial recognition data and banking credentials. Sideloading and malicious configuration profiles can still
infect iPhones, especially when users are tricked into installing them.

Phishing attacks are more common on iOS than Android in enterprise environments, according to Lookout's 2024 report.
*Hackers target iOS more than Android*
<https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2024/12/26/ios-more-exposed-to-attack-than-android-220-million-devices-analyzed/>

However, it's true Android has more malware than iOS for a variety of
reasons, one of which is Android is used by 70% of global mobile users.

But, as shown above, iOS still has plenty of malware to deal with,
especially given how atrociously insecure the iOS kernel & Webkit are.

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On Mon, 4 Aug 2025 07:35:48 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :

FACT:
Only Apple was unable to earn an "A" in efficiency in recent EU benchmarks.

[Factcheck: this is false]

Android *cannot* do that!

FACT:
And yet, every major Android OEM was able to earn an "A" in efficiency.

[Factcheck: this is false]

It's no longer shocking you Apple trolls deny that which nobody would.

Show us the "A" in efficiency that you claim Apple earned, Chris?
















HINT: It doesn't exist. You're desperate to claim an A Apple didn't earn.

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