badgolferman wrote:

Actually I bought it from my friend with 75K miles four years ago. I'm
at least the third owner. It's my very first motorcycle. I went big immediately and didn't bother progressing through sizes.

Hi badgolferman,

Wow. That's not how most people do it. Most of us bought a rice burner when
we were just kids, usually a dirt bike, which is a nice way to learn how to ride as the falls don't break as many bones.

Then, when we get our licenses, we graduate progressively up from smaller
bikes in the rice burner category before progressing to the three big boys.

In fact I had
never rode one before and since I wanted that motorcycle I took the
weekend parking lot test and got my license.

In New York, where I got my initial license, it was a simple test, but here
in California it's a money making endeavor where the "lollipop" test at the
DMV is free but essentially impossible (on a big bike anyway), whereas
almost everyone passes the two-day parking lot test process.

It's kind of like a
teenager getting driver's ed in the school parking lot then immediately driving a semi truck! Right turns from a dead stop were the hardest to master.

Look up countersteering if you haven't noticed yet that to turn left you
push on the right handlebar, and vice versa, to turn right you push on the
left handlebar.

The dangerous part is in braking of course.

Do you let your kids ride on their own?

My two sons don't ride on their own but they like riding on the back of
this one. My wife likes it too, although it's hard for her to get
on/off since she has a problem with her leg. Sometimes her girlfriends
get to go for a ride too. The first time I took a passenger (wife) I
was scared to death, even more so than the first time I rode it myself.
Now I can safely say having passengers has made me a better and safer
rider since I have to be conscious of the extra weight and someone
else's life.

It's completely different with a passenger, I agree.
Sometimes they fight you in the leans, for example, so they knock you off balance until either you figure it out or they figure it out.

Less so this happens on the bigger bikes - but more so on the smaller ones. Good luck, and ride safely.

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On 30.01.25 19:04, badgolferman wrote:

Just out of curiosity, how many Google apps do you have installed on
your iPhone?

You went over the edge ...

--
"De gustibus non est disputandum."

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On 2025-01-30 10:04, badgolferman wrote:

I had to login to University of Virginia's parent website today and it
forced me to download and install Google Authenticator to create a new account. That got me looking at the rest of the apps on my phone to
see how many Google ones I have.

Gmail
Maps
Chrome
Drive
Calendar
Translate
YouTube
Voice
Docs
Authenticator

The thing is I use pretty much all of them on a consistent basis.
Maybe I could get rid of Calendar since I have it synced to my Apple Calendar, and maybe Docs since I can open a document directly from
Drive.

Just out of curiosity, how many Google apps do you have installed on
your iPhone?

Searching with the App Library (and whatever the feature is called where
you pulled down to search—sort of iOS's Spotlight)

Google
Google Earth
Google Home
Google Maps
Google Translate
Assistant
Authenticator
Chat
Chrome
Drive
Family Link
Gmail
Voice
YouTube
YT Kids

I have most of them because I've checked out how they work for a client
or three.

I actually use (on at least a semi-regular basis):

Drive
YouTube
YT Kids (and this only when my niece wants to watch
I very occasionally check Google Maps

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On 2025-01-30 10:12, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

On 30.01.25 19:04, badgolferman wrote:

Just out of curiosity, how many Google apps do you have installed on
your iPhone?

You went over the edge ...

I had exactly the same thought.

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On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 19:55:14 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :

Just out of curiosity, how many Google apps do you have installed on
your iPhone?

Maps and YT only.

Hi Chris,

I think that's wrong if my tests of Google Voice being on my new'ish 10th generation iPad without me ever having created an Apple ID on that iPad.

Are you sure "Google Voice" isn't already installed (by Apple) on your iOS device (which you didn't say whether it was an iPhone or an iPad)?

If not, maybe Apple only puts Google Voice on the iPads by default?

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On 2025-01-30 13:17, Marion wrote:

On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 19:55:14 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :

Just out of curiosity, how many Google apps do you have installed on
your iPhone?

Maps and YT only.

Hi Chris,

I think that's wrong if my tests of Google Voice being on my new'ish 10th generation iPad without me ever having created an Apple ID on that iPad.

I think you're full of shit.

Are you sure "Google Voice" isn't already installed (by Apple) on your iOS device (which you didn't say whether it was an iPhone or an iPad)?

If not, maybe Apple only puts Google Voice on the iPads by default?

Or (much more likely), you don't remember having installed it.

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On 2025-01-30 15:05, badgolferman wrote:

Marion wrote:

On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 19:55:14 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :

Just out of curiosity, how many Google apps do you have installed
on your iPhone?

Maps and YT only.

Hi Chris,

I think that's wrong if my tests of Google Voice being on my new'ish
10th generation iPad without me ever having created an Apple ID on
that iPad.

Are you sure "Google Voice" isn't already installed (by Apple) on
your iOS device (which you didn't say whether it was an iPhone or an
iPad)?

If not, maybe Apple only puts Google Voice on the iPads by default?

Apple doesn't install Google Voice by default. It's likely you
installed it on one of your devices when you actually had an iCloud
account and it reinstalled on your iPad when you logged in at some
point. Or maybe you installed it and don't remember. I believe you've mentioned before using Google Voice at one time.

I can't wait to see what "Arlen" replies...

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On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 23:05:39 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :

If not, maybe Apple only puts Google Voice on the iPads by default?

Apple doesn't install Google Voice by default. It's likely you
installed it on one of your devices when you actually had an iCloud
account and it reinstalled on your iPad when you logged in at some
point. Or maybe you installed it and don't remember. I believe you've mentioned before using Google Voice at one time.

Hi badgolferman,

It's refreshing responding to you versus to the Apple trolls, who are like small children who can't carry on a normal adult conversation with others.

First off, I fully understand that it would be considered odd that Apple
would install, of all things, a third-party competing app such as Google
Voice, on any iOS device, so I have to consider why that Google Voice is on there, even as I had thought it had never been logged into.

Given your objection, I dug deeper and found out what I think is the issue.

While I have a few iPads & iPhones, this particular 10th Generation iPad is merely a test device, so I have never explicitly wanted to add an account
to it, which means it would have been difficult for me to add any apps
given the iCloud account likely wouldn't work - but it has been a while
since I bought it and I did have to create an account of some sort on the
Apple servers just to *initialize* this iPad in the first place.

As you are likely aware, only Apple murders your privacy by requiring that.

Given that I had to establish an account on Apple's mainframe servers just
to boot the damn thing, it's likely maybe at the time, just maybe, dunno,
that I had installed "Google Voice" on it (I don't remember if I did that).

At the moment it has no account on it, so I don't know how I could have
done that; but given Google Voice is, indeed, a strange third-party app for Apple (of all companies) to have installed, I stand corrected, and admit I
must have made a mistake when I had responded to Chris the way I did.

I apologize to Chris, and to anyone who might have been offended; but I
will LOOK deeper on the device to see the history as I typically take a lot
of screenshots so I will look at what I did to rehash its history.

Suffice to summarize, for now though, that almost certainly you are
correct, which means that I was wrong in what I said, and I apologize for leading anyone astray - as I probably added GV at some point and then wiped
out the account (or something like that).

My apologies to you and to Chris for that inadvertent mistake.

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On 2025-01-30 18:39, badgolferman wrote:

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

On 2025-01-30 15:05, badgolferman wrote:

Marion wrote:

On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 19:55:14 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :

Just out of curiosity, how many Google apps do you have installed
on your iPhone?

Maps and YT only.

Hi Chris,

I think that's wrong if my tests of Google Voice being on my new'ish
10th generation iPad without me ever having created an Apple ID on
that iPad.

Are you sure "Google Voice" isn't already installed (by Apple) on
your iOS device (which you didn't say whether it was an iPhone or an
iPad)?

If not, maybe Apple only puts Google Voice on the iPads by default?

Apple doesn't install Google Voice by default. It's likely you
installed it on one of your devices when you actually had an iCloud
account and it reinstalled on your iPad when you logged in at some
point. Or maybe you installed it and don't remember. I believe you've
mentioned before using Google Voice at one time.

I can't wait to see what "Arlen" replies...

Are you satisfied now? See how he’s able to admit when he’s wrong and apologize, unlike many others on this group?

I'm satisfied you're being played and used.

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