• Re: battery life test

    From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Heron on Tue Nov 15 18:08:40 2022
    On 2022-11-15, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> wrote:
    On 11/15/2022 9:30 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    Nope, I disagree with your claim since you haven't proven it.

    Are you actually serious

    Deadly.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Heron on Tue Nov 15 18:09:40 2022
    On 2022-11-15, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> wrote:
    On 11/15/2022 11:30 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    Do you disagree

    Yep.

    Do you remember blah blah blah?

    Do you remember your failure to back up your own words? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Heron on Tue Nov 15 18:10:03 2022
    On 2022-11-15, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> wrote:
    On 11/15/2022 11:30 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    Are you now finally agreeing

    Nope.

    You disagree with all science?

    Another claim I never made. You're on a roll...

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Heron on Tue Nov 15 18:11:22 2022
    On 2022-11-15, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> wrote:
    On 11/15/2022 11:29 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    So is your claim

    You made the claim

    How much basic redox potential inorganic chemistry do you understand?

    Keep squirming, little worm.

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  • From gtr@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Tue Nov 15 09:30:03 2022
    On 2022-11-15 15:18:49 +0000, badgolferman said:

    "If you're looking to give your battery a little extra TLC, "Optimize
    Battery Charging" is a great option to turn on," Rana said.

    How does it work?
    Does it stop the charging at 80% of capacity?

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  • From Heron@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Tue Nov 15 11:36:12 2022
    On 11/15/2022 11:30 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    Do you disagree

    Yep.

    Do you remember redox potentials from your inorganic chemistry classes?

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Tue Nov 15 19:22:34 2022
    badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
    badgolferman wrote:

    Apple is known for using smaller battery capacities in its iPhones
    than what we see in Android smartphones. But it can usually make up
    the difference with tight hardware/software integration. In the
    latest battery test, PhoneBuff found out how much power the iPhone 14
    Pro Max had left when Google’s Pixel 7 Pro died.

    In the end, the iPhone 14 Pro Max had an impressive 21% battery
    remaining when the Pixel 7 Pro died. Based on his testing, PhoneBuff
    says that translates to 3.5 extra hours of messaging.

    Usage time for the iPhone 14 Pro Max was 11 hours 44 minutes active
    with 16 hours standby for a total of 27 hours and 44 minutes.

    Usage time for the Pixel 7 Pro was 9 hours and 41 minutes with 16
    hours of standby for a total of 25 hours and 41 minutes.



    https://9to5mac.com/2022/11/09/iphone-14-pro-max-battery-test-pixel-7-pro/



    Own an iPhone 14?

    Want to know how to prolong its battery life to get the most out of
    your new device?

    We've got you covered.

    The model comes equipped with a setting that can actually lengthen your battery life and make your phone more efficient, according to Apple.

    Here's the one battery setting tech experts say you should have turned
    on your iPhone 14:

    Suhel Rana, an iPhone tech specialist and the co-founder of
    techiaid.com said the quick move is called “Optimize Battery Charging.”

    "If you’re looking to give your battery a little extra TLC, “Optimize Battery Charging” is a great option to turn on," Rana said.

    “The setting is designed to help prolong the battery’s lifespan by learning your daily charging habits and then making adjustments
    accordingly, according to Rana.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2022/11/14/iphone-14-battery-setting-tech-experts/10696741002/

    Watch Heron's head explode when he sees this... :D

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  • From sms@21:1/5 to gtr on Wed Nov 16 07:09:16 2022
    On 11/15/2022 9:30 AM, gtr wrote:
    On 2022-11-15 15:18:49 +0000, badgolferman said:

    "If you're looking to give your battery a little extra TLC, "Optimize
    Battery Charging" is a great option to turn on," Rana said.

    How does it work? Does it stop the charging at 80% of capacity?

    Yes. It keeps the battery at 80% until shortly before you wake up, then
    charges it to 100%. The basic idea is to minimize the amount of time
    that the battery is fully charged. When you wake up, it expects that
    you'll remove the battery from the charger and let it begin to discharge throughout the day.

    Technically you'd be a little better off if you never charged over 80%
    or discharged below 20%, but that's not a built-in option in iOS or
    Android (though there are ways to do this, at least on Android, using AccuBattery, IFTTT, and a smartplug).

    However the reality is that when a device indicates "100%" it's not
    actually charged to the full capacity of the battery, and when it
    indicates 0% the battery is not fully discharged. So going through all
    the trouble to limit charge to 80% is probably not worth it.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to scharf.steven@geemail.com on Wed Nov 16 10:25:08 2022
    In article <tl2ueu$2cfhl$1@dont-email.me>, sms
    <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

    Technically you'd be a little better off if you never charged over 80%
    or discharged below 20%, but that's not a built-in option in iOS or
    Android (though there are ways to do this, at least on Android, using AccuBattery, IFTTT, and a smartplug).

    that can also be done on ios, using similar methods.

    However the reality is that when a device indicates "100%" it's not
    actually charged to the full capacity of the battery, and when it
    indicates 0% the battery is not fully discharged. So going through all
    the trouble to limit charge to 80% is probably not worth it.

    false.

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  • From Heron@21:1/5 to Chris on Wed Nov 16 10:04:41 2022
    On 11/15/2022 7:22 PM, Chris wrote:
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2022/11/14/iphone-14-battery-setting-tech-experts/10696741002/

    Watch Heron's head explode when he sees this.

    Android has long had options to optimize battery charge settings. https://docs.samsungknox.com/admin/knox-platform-for-enterprise/kbas/kba-77-how-to-limit-battery-charging-on-samsung-knox-device.htm

    The goal is not daily battery life since a larger battery serves that
    purpose well already, but overall long lasting batteries over years. https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/set-charging-limit-your-android-device-avoid-excess-battery-wear-0176280/

    On that goal, what I was rather patiently trying to explain to you (and
    which you don't know enough about redox potentials to understand) is that
    the much smaller batteries Apple always puts into the iPhone will always chemically age below minimum threshold before a much larger battery would.

    It's basic science.
    Redox potentials.
    Simple stuff.
    Science.

    Yet all you seem to know is the marketing that Apple is providing.
    Not the science.

    Science is how batteries age over time.
    Not marketing.

    Charge limits are only one piece of the scientific equation.

    You can even use deep cycling to further increase the battery life. https://krispitech.com/battery-charge-limit/

    But what you don't seem to understand is that Apple uses tiny batteries.
    Why can't you understand that Apple uses much smaller batteries?

    Don't you think Apple uses much smaller batteries for a profit reason?

    It's my conclusion, based on the science that even Apple can't refute,
    Apple puts those much smaller batteries in iPhones to decrease their life.

    Why do you think Apple always puts much smaller batteries in the iPhone?

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  • From Big Dog@21:1/5 to sms on Wed Nov 16 10:51:30 2022
    On 11/16/2022 10:09 AM, sms wrote:

    Technically you'd be a little better off if you never charged over 80%
    or discharged below 20%, but that's not a built-in option in iOS or
    Android (though there are ways to do this, at least on Android, using AccuBattery, IFTTT, and a smartplug).

    One of the new features of Galaxy S22 is Protect Battery, which lets you
    limit the maximum charge to 85% to minimize the charging wear to the
    battery.

    When you enable this option, Galaxy S22 (or S21, S20, and S10) will stop charging once the battery reaches this level, regardless of the charging
    method used (USB cable charging or wireless charging).

    As most lithium batteries will lose about 20% of the designed capacity
    after about 500 full charging cycles (from 0-100%) under normal conditions,
    the Protect Battery may slow down the ageing process of the battery by
    avoiding charging the battery from 85% to 100%.

    In simple words, the bigger the battery, the less the charge related aging
    and the lower the final charge the less the charge related battery aging.

    https://gadgetguideonline.com/s22/protect-battery-limit-maximum-charge-85/

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  • From Heron@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Wed Nov 16 10:07:42 2022
    On 11/15/2022 12:10 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    Simply answer the question

    No link, no deal.

    There were more than a dozen links already provided.

    None of them proved your claim

    Why do you think Apple always puts much smaller batteries in the iPhone?

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  • From Heron@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Wed Nov 16 10:08:07 2022
    On 11/15/2022 12:10 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    Are you now finally agreeing

    Nope.

    You disagree with all science?

    Another claim I never made.

    Why do you think Apple always puts much smaller batteries in the iPhone?

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  • From Heron@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Wed Nov 16 10:09:19 2022
    On 11/15/2022 12:08 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    Nope, I disagree with your claim since you haven't proven it.

    Are you actually serious

    Deadly.

    Why do you think Apple always puts much smaller batteries in the iPhone?

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  • From Calum@21:1/5 to nospam on Wed Nov 16 17:14:18 2022
    On 16/11/2022 16:25, nospam wrote:

    Technically you'd be a little better off if you never charged over 80%
    or discharged below 20%, but that's not a built-in option in iOS or
    Android (though there are ways to do this, at least on Android, using
    AccuBattery, IFTTT, and a smartplug).

    that can also be done on ios, using similar methods.

    What app?

    https://www.apple.com/app-store/ ???

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to McKeister@ipanywhere.com on Wed Nov 16 11:39:42 2022
    In article <tl31r4$bqk$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Heron
    <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> wrote:


    Why do you think Apple always puts much smaller batteries in the iPhone?

    because both ios hardware and ios itself are more power-efficient,
    which means a smaller battery is all that's needed for similar (or even
    longer) runtimes. this is not complicated. except to you.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to sms on Wed Nov 16 10:27:02 2022
    On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 07:09:16 -0800, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

    On 11/15/2022 9:30 AM, gtr wrote:
    On 2022-11-15 15:18:49 +0000, badgolferman said:

    "If you're looking to give your battery a little extra TLC, "Optimize
    Battery Charging" is a great option to turn on," Rana said.

    How does it work? Does it stop the charging at 80% of capacity?

    Yes. It keeps the battery at 80% until shortly before you wake up, then charges it to 100%. The basic idea is to minimize the amount of time
    that the battery is fully charged. When you wake up, it expects that
    you'll remove the battery from the charger and let it begin to discharge throughout the day.

    Technically you'd be a little better off if you never charged over 80%
    or discharged below 20%, but that's not a built-in option in iOS or
    Android (though there are ways to do this, at least on Android, using AccuBattery, IFTTT, and a smartplug).

    However the reality is that when a device indicates "100%" it's not
    actually charged to the full capacity of the battery, and when it
    indicates 0% the battery is not fully discharged. So going through all
    the trouble to limit charge to 80% is probably not worth it.

    Is this the accubattery app link you described? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digibites.accubattery&hl=en_US&gl=US
    "AccuBattery protects battery health, displays battery usage information,
    and measures battery capacity (mAh) based on science."

    What about this link? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slash.batterychargelimit&hl=en_US&gl=US
    https://f-droid.org/packages/com.slash.batterychargelimit/

    Is this the ifft charge limit link?
    https://ifttt.com/android_battery

    Can you use tasker instead? https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/galaxy-s22-series/automation-how-to-charge-the-battery-dynamically/td-p/5076427

    Is this the smartplug link you described?
    https://chargie.org/

    Where are the ios apps to do the same things?

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat on Wed Nov 16 11:39:43 2022
    In article <tl328e$jo6$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> wrote:


    Technically you'd be a little better off if you never charged over 80%
    or discharged below 20%, but that's not a built-in option in iOS or
    Android (though there are ways to do this, at least on Android, using
    AccuBattery, IFTTT, and a smartplug).

    that can also be done on ios, using similar methods.

    What app?

    no app or third party service is needed.

    that functionality is built into ios, and has been for quite some time.

    a smartplug will be needed to automatically enable/disable a charger,
    or you could have the phone alert you to manually disconnect it.

    simply create an automation that triggers on the desired charge level
    and set its action to toggle a smart switch (or whatever you want it to
    do). done.

    android can't do that and must rely on third party apps and services,
    which are not that reliable. just ask anyone who has used ifttt about
    its problems. to even claim that's a viable solution is laughable.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Big Dog on Wed Nov 16 17:33:54 2022
    On 2022-11-16, Big Dog <BD7436@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 11/16/2022 10:09 AM, sms wrote:

    Technically you'd be a little better off if you never charged over
    80% or discharged below 20%, but that's not a built-in option in iOS
    or Android (though there are ways to do this, at least on Android,
    using AccuBattery, IFTTT, and a smartplug).

    Blah blah blah

    Arlen thinks nobody will figure out this is actually him using a
    brand-new new nym in a lame attempt to make it appear that some new
    person is echoing Arlen's own talking points. Arlen is a very stupid
    troll who thinks everyone else is as gullible and dumb as he is. ; )

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Heron on Wed Nov 16 17:36:36 2022
    On 2022-11-16, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> wrote:
    On 11/11/2022 10:19 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    "Everyone knows" is the bastion of people who don't know.

    It really is

    Why do you think Apple always puts much smaller batteries in the
    iPhone?

    Because Apple's tight hardware and software integration allows them to
    use power much more efficiently and get competitive run times with
    smaller batteries.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Heron on Wed Nov 16 17:37:45 2022
    On 2022-11-16, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> wrote:
    On 11/15/2022 12:10 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    Simply answer the question

    No link, no deal.

    There were more than a dozen links already provided.

    None of them proved your claim

    Why do you think

    Why can't you back up your claim, Arlen? Because you can't.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Heron on Wed Nov 16 17:38:11 2022
    On 2022-11-16, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> wrote:
    On 11/15/2022 12:10 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    Are you now finally agreeing

    Nope.

    You disagree with all science?

    Another claim I never made.

    Why do you think

    Why are you such a shit person?

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Heron on Wed Nov 16 17:39:12 2022
    On 2022-11-16, Heron <McKeister@ipanywhere.com> wrote:
    On 11/15/2022 12:11 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    So is your claim

    You made the claim

    How much basic redox potential inorganic chemistry do you understand?

    Keep squirming, little worm.

    Why do you think

    Continue.

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  • From Heron@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Wed Nov 16 12:22:33 2022
    On 11/16/2022 11:36 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    Why do you think Apple always puts much smaller batteries in the
    iPhone?

    Because Apple's tight hardware and software integration allows them to
    use power much more efficiently and get competitive run times with
    smaller batteries.

    Rather than make up your claim out of thin air, provide a cite.
    You can't because you made it all up.

    No amount of your made up ridiculous efficiency can overcome the 20% degradation over the expected lifetime of the always tiny iPhone batteries.

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  • From Heron@21:1/5 to nospam on Wed Nov 16 12:24:20 2022
    On 11/16/2022 2:39 PM, nospam wrote:
    Why do you think Apple always puts much smaller batteries in the iPhone?

    because both ios hardware and ios itself are more power-efficient,
    which means a smaller battery is all that's needed for similar (or even longer) runtimes. this is not complicated. except to you.

    Rather than your constant made up claims pulled out of thin air, just
    provide a cite for your ridiculous made up claim above.

    Otherwise it's ridiculous your claim Apple has a secret battery chemistry
    that prevents aging of the batteries over the expected battery lifetime.

    A much smaller battery will always age below threshold than the much larger ones that Apple does not put into any iPhone (and Apple never will).

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  • From Heron@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Wed Nov 16 12:26:36 2022
    On 11/16/2022 11:37 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    Why can't you back up your claim

    A much smaller battery will always age below output thresholds than a much larger battery that Apple does not put into any iPhone (and never will).

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  • From Heron@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Wed Nov 16 12:29:14 2022
    On 11/16/2022 11:38 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    Ask a few hundred more times, please.

    A much smaller battery will always age below threshold much sooner than a
    much larger battery that Apple has never & will never put into any iPhone.

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  • From Heron@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Wed Nov 16 12:28:50 2022
    On 11/16/2022 11:38 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    Why are you such a shit person?

    You are the one who is claiming ridiculous special battery chemistry.
    Not me.

    A much smaller battery will always age below threshold much sooner than a
    much larger battery that Apple has never & will never put into any iPhone.

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  • From Heron@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Wed Nov 16 12:30:08 2022
    On 11/16/2022 11:38 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    Keep going.

    A much smaller battery will always age below threshold much sooner than a
    much larger battery which Apple has never & will never put into any iPhone.

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  • From sms@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Nov 16 17:10:01 2022
    On 11/16/2022 8:27 AM, JAB wrote:

    <snip>

    Where are the ios apps to do the same things?

    There's a Jailbreak Tweak to accomplish this, without the need for any
    hardware to turn off a charger. See <https://www.ios-repo-updates.com/repository/udevs/package/com.udevs.battsafepro/>.

    On some newer Samsung devices you can turn on "the "Protect battery"
    option which limits the charge level to 85%, but this is not a standard
    Android feature, and I've only ever seen it on Samsung phones, like the
    Galaxy S22 and the A52 5G.

    The amount of time spent at the 100% charge level does affect how long
    the battery lasts before degrading to the state where it needs
    replacement. Hopefully iOS will add the charge-limit feature in a future version of iOS.

    When I'm on a long road trip, my iPhone 11 stays on the charger all the
    time and it would be nice to have a way to set a charge level limit. I'm
    using a MagSafe phone mount which charges my iPhone 11 at a 7.5W rate
    (the iPhone 11 isn't MagSafe compatible but I have a case for it that
    has the magnets <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B5ZQCPJP>). Since the
    iPhone 11 is technically not MagSafe compatible it doesn't charge at the
    20W (iPhone 14/14 Plus) or the 27W (iPhone 14 Pro/14 Pro Max) rate.
    While I'm a big fan of wireless charging, I don't think I'd want to do
    20W or 27W wireless charging very often, 5W to 10W is fine.

    I added this as 198a on page 94 of the document <https://tinyurl.com/iOS-Android-Features>.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to scharf.steven@geemail.com on Wed Nov 16 21:07:04 2022
    In article <tl41l9$2fjul$1@dont-email.me>, sms
    <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

    Where are the ios apps to do the same things?

    There's a Jailbreak Tweak to accomplish this, without the need for any hardware to turn off a charger. See

    you're moving the goalposts again.

    your solution for android was to use a third party app, ifttt *and* *a*
    *smart* *plug*:

    In article <tl2ueu$2cfhl$1@dont-email.me>, sms
    <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
    Technically you'd be a little better off if you never charged over 80%
    or discharged below 20%, but that's not a built-in option in iOS or
    Android (though there are ways to do this, at least on Android, using AccuBattery, IFTTT, and a smartplug).

    now you're changing the requirements to no additional hardware, because
    you just learned that ios can do that with nothing more than the smart
    plug (and without jailbreaking).

    stop pretending to know about ios. leave that to those whom you call
    trolls, because they know a *lot* more than you ever will.

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to sms on Wed Nov 16 22:09:43 2022
    On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 17:10:01 -0800, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

    When I'm on a long road trip, my iPhone 11 stays on the charger all the
    time and it would be nice to have a way to set a charge level limit.

    What do you think about the Costco $30 USB-C chargers on sale next week? https://www.costco.com/scosche-powervolt-pd30-usb-c-30w-power-delivery-mini-fast-charger-(two-pack).product.100976871.html

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to gtr on Thu Nov 17 18:27:36 2022
    On 2022-11-15 17:30:03 +0000, gtr said:
    On 2022-11-15 15:18:49 +0000, badgolferman said:

    "If you're looking to give your battery a little extra TLC, "Optimize
    Battery Charging" is a great option to turn on," Rana said.

    How does it work? Does it stop the charging at 80% of capacity?

    The "Optimize Battery Charging" option in iOS limits charging to 80%
    "in certain situations".
    <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210512>


    There is also at least one hardware+software option called "Chargie"
    which you can set the limit you want, but it's expensive and I
    personally don't know how good or not it is.
    <https://chargie.org>

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to Ken@invalid.news.com on Thu Nov 17 00:29:43 2022
    In article <tl4fmb$14ic$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Blake
    <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:

    What do you think about the Costco $30 USB-C chargers on sale next week?

    https://www.costco.com/scosche-powervolt-pd30-usb-c-30w-power-delivery-mini-fa
    st-charger-(two-pack).product.100976871.html

    scosche is reputable. also look at anker.

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  • From sms@21:1/5 to Ken Blake on Thu Nov 17 09:00:10 2022
    On 11/16/2022 9:09 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 17:10:01 -0800, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

    When I'm on a long road trip, my iPhone 11 stays on the charger all the
    time and it would be nice to have a way to set a charge level limit.

    What do you think about the Costco $30 USB-C chargers on sale next week? https://www.costco.com/scosche-powervolt-pd30-usb-c-30w-power-delivery-mini-fast-charger-(two-pack).product.100976871.html

    I bought two of these <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XYNK5TG> when they
    were on sale for $21.59. I like having multiple USB ports. I can use it
    to charge my Lenovo laptop as well using a USB-PD to barrel connector
    cord <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FRCV5K9>. It charges my iPhone 11 at
    18 watts with a wired connection, but usually I use a MagSafe wireless
    charger.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to scharf.steven@geemail.com on Thu Nov 17 12:03:05 2022
    In article <tl5pb1$2m7u5$4@dont-email.me>, sms
    <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

    It charges my iPhone 11 at
    18 watts with a wired connection, but usually I use a MagSafe wireless charger.

    the iphone 11 does not have magsafe.

    adding a case with magnets is *not* the same. what you have is nothing
    more than basic qi that is held in alignment via magnets.

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  • From Golf Carts@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 21 16:39:16 2022
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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Golf Carts on Tue Nov 22 15:30:19 2022
    On 2022-11-22 00:39:16 +0000, Golf Carts said:

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    Capacity:
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    5-Hour Rate (Ah):
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  • From Bob Campbell@21:1/5 to Your Name on Tue Nov 22 23:12:29 2022
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2022-11-22 00:39:16 +0000, Golf Carts said:

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    Condition:
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    Battery Type:
    Deep-cycle lead-acid wet cell batteries
    Battery Group Size:
    DC
    Volts:
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    Cells:
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    Capacity:
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    5-Hour Rate (Ah):
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    20-Hour Rate (Ah):
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    100-Hr Rate (Ah):
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    Weight:
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    Warranty:
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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Bob Campbell on Tue Nov 22 18:03:37 2022
    Bob Campbell wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2022-11-22 00:39:16 +0000, Golf Carts said:

    Buy US Battery US12VRX 12V 155Ah (4 Pack, 48V)

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    Are You Looking For Where to Buy USA Battery?
    This Set of Four 12 Volt Golf Cart Batteries made by US Battery
    (US12VRX) is designed to replace the batteries on ALL 48 VOLT GOLF
    CARTS THAT REQUIRE 12V BATTERIES (Club Car, EZGO, Yamaha, etc.).
    These US Battery US12VRX’s are deep cycle flooded batteries and are the >>> best overall value for golf carts. US Battery is a trusted brand that
    is known for making long-lasting golf cart batteries that are
    reasonably priced. Your golf cart will get great performance, power,
    and longevity with brand-new US batteries.

    ***PLEASE NOTE THAT BATTERIES SHIP VIA COMPANY TRUCK DELIVERY OR LTL
    AND MAY TAKE A COUPLE OF DAYS LONGER THAN NORMAL SHIPPING TO SET UP

    For LTL battery shipments, please be sure to inspect the item before
    signing the delivery receipt provided by the freight company. Damage
    must be noted at the time of delivery to avoid claim denial. Any damage
    claim that is submitted after the delivery receipt has already been
    signed will be denied.***

    https://MORONSPAMADVERTISERS/

    BUY US BATTERIES
    Recommended For:
    48 VOLT GOLF CARTS WITH 12V BATTERIES Golf Cart Makes:
    Club Car, EZ-GO, Yamaha, etc.
    Model:
    US Battery / US12VRX
    Condition:
    New
    Battery Type:
    Deep-cycle lead-acid wet cell batteries
    Battery Group Size:
    DC
    Volts:
    12 volts
    Cells:
    6 cells (watering holes)
    Capacity:
    292 minutes @25 amps; 110 minutes @56 amps
    5-Hour Rate (Ah):
    122Ah
    20-Hour Rate (Ah):
    155Ah
    100-Hr Rate (Ah):
    172Ah
    Weight:
    86 pounds each
    Warranty:
    12-month manufacturer’s warranty
    Dimensions:
    L 14″ x W 7.06″ x H 11.38″
    Manufactured:
    Made in the USA
    Replaces:
    Any 12V deep cycle flooded batteries
    Battery Info:
    US Battery US12VRX Datasheet
    Product Includes:
    Four 12V Deep Cycle Lead Acid Batteries
    https://MORONSPAMADVERTISERS/
    Product Categories:
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    https://MORONSPAMADVERTISERS/
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    How many hours of use would it give the iPhone??

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    To polish an apple turd, you need genuine apple turd polish. Tap on
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