The know-nothing anti-Apple trolls won't of course be posting this news either. The *current* iPhone CPU already outperforms the *yet to be
released* new Android CPU. Even Apple's old A13 chip released in 2019
beats the Android's current CPU.
The know-nothing anti-Apple trolls won't of course be posting this news either. The *current* iPhone CPU already outperforms the *yet to be
released* new Android CPU. Even Apple's old A13 chip released in 2019
beats the Android's current CPU.
iPhone 14 Pro's A16 Bionic Outperforms Latest Snapdragon 8 Chip
Coming to Android Phones Later This Year
---------------------------------------------------------------
Earlier this week, Qualcomm announced its latest Snapdragon 8
Gen 2 mobile chip and platform, promising to "revolutionize
flagship smartphones" with "groundbreaking" experiences. The
new chip is expected to launch in flagship Android smartphones
later this year, but benchmarks suggest it cannot compete with
Apple's A16 Bionic chip, which powers iPhone 14 Pro models.
While the latest chip won't officially ship in smartphones for
a few months, Geekbench scores for the chip have already been
spotted in an unreleased Android handset. According to the
results (via DealNTech), the latest Snapdragon 8 chip scored
1483 in single-core and 4709 in multi-core. The A16 Bionic
scored 1874 in single-core and 5372 in multi-core. For
comparison, the A15 Bionic chip, found in the iPhone 13 Pro
and the lower-end iPhone 14 models, also scored higher than
Qualcomm's latest chip with 1709 in single-core compared to
1483.
In a press release for the new chip, Qualcomm said it will
"define a new standard for connected computing, intelligently
engineered with groundbreaking AI across the board to enable
extraordinary experiences." Qualcomm's senior vice president
and general manager of mobile handsets, Chris Patrick, said,
"Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 will revolutionize the landscape of
flagship smartphones in 2023."
Compared to the first-generation Snapdragon 8 chip, Qualcomm
says the newer platform offers a 35% increase in CPU
performance, a 25% increase in GPU performance, and an
increase in power efficiency. In 2020, Apple's A14 Bionic and
even the A13 Bionic chip from the year earlier beat Qualcomm's
Snapdragon 888 chip that launched on Android devices last
year.
The A16 Bionic chip in the iPhone 14 Pro, like the latest
Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 chip, is built on TSMC's 4nm process, and
both offer improved performance and energy efficiency. The
A16 Bionic chip features 16 billion transistors, a 6-core CPU,
a 5-core GPU, and a 16-core Neural Engine. "The competition is
still working to catch up to the performance of the A13, which
we first introduced with iPhone 11 three years ago," said Greg
Joswiak, Apple's senior vice president of worldwide marketing,
during the Apple event in September.
<https://www.macrumors.com/2022/11/17/iphone-14-pro-a16-outpreforms-snapdragon/>
The know-nothing anti-Apple trolls won't of course be posting this
news either. The *current* iPhone CPU already outperforms the *yet
to be released* new Android CPU. Even Apple's old A13 chip released
in 2019 beats the Android's current CPU.
iPhone 14 Pro's A16 Bionic Outperforms Latest Snapdragon 8 Chip
Coming to Android Phones Later This Year
---------------------------------------------------------------
Earlier this week, Qualcomm announced its latest Snapdragon 8
Gen 2 mobile chip and platform, promising to "revolutionize
flagship smartphones" with "groundbreaking" experiences. The
new chip is expected to launch in flagship Android smartphones
later this year, but benchmarks suggest it cannot compete with
Apple's A16 Bionic chip, which powers iPhone 14 Pro models.
While the latest chip won't officially ship in smartphones for
a few months, Geekbench scores for the chip have already been
spotted in an unreleased Android handset. According to the
results (via DealNTech), the latest Snapdragon 8 chip scored
1483 in single-core and 4709 in multi-core. The A16 Bionic
scored 1874 in single-core and 5372 in multi-core. For
comparison, the A15 Bionic chip, found in the iPhone 13 Pro
and the lower-end iPhone 14 models, also scored higher than
Qualcomm's latest chip with 1709 in single-core compared to
1483.
In a press release for the new chip, Qualcomm said it will
"define a new standard for connected computing, intelligently
engineered with groundbreaking AI across the board to enable
extraordinary experiences." Qualcomm's senior vice president
and general manager of mobile handsets, Chris Patrick, said,
"Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 will revolutionize the landscape of
flagship smartphones in 2023."
Compared to the first-generation Snapdragon 8 chip, Qualcomm
says the newer platform offers a 35% increase in CPU
performance, a 25% increase in GPU performance, and an
increase in power efficiency. In 2020, Apple's A14 Bionic and
even the A13 Bionic chip from the year earlier beat Qualcomm's
Snapdragon 888 chip that launched on Android devices last
year.
The A16 Bionic chip in the iPhone 14 Pro, like the latest
Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 chip, is built on TSMC's 4nm process, and
both offer improved performance and energy efficiency. The
A16 Bionic chip features 16 billion transistors, a 6-core CPU,
a 5-core GPU, and a 16-core Neural Engine. "The competition is
still working to catch up to the performance of the A13, which
we first introduced with iPhone 11 three years ago," said Greg
Joswiak, Apple's senior vice president of worldwide marketing,
during the Apple event in September.
In article <tl68gn$qna$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
The know-nothing anti-Apple trolls won't of course be posting this news
either. The *current* iPhone CPU already outperforms the *yet to be
released* new Android CPU. Even Apple's old A13 chip released in 2019
beats the Android's current CPU.
that's very embarrassing for qualcomm, when the processor your about to release is slower than what your competitor had several generations
ago.
Those benchmark scores are bound to change when the processor is eventually released.
But regardless of whether the Qualcomm chip doesnt perform as
well as the Apple chip, what matters is the total performance of the phone.
I am not qualified to say which is better altogether.
Compared to the first-generation Snapdragon 8 chip, Qualcomm
says the newer platform offers a 35% increase in CPU
performance, a 25% increase in GPU performance, and an
increase in power efficiency.
The know-nothing anti-Apple trolls won't of course be posting this news either. The *current* iPhone CPU already outperforms the *yet to be
released* new Android CPU. Even Apple's old A13 chip released in 2019
beats the Android's current CPU.
I predict “Benchmarks don’t matter” and “Apple didn’t design it anyway so
it doesn’t matter” from the Troll Boys.
Or - even better - “This is off topic for this group”. Possibly yet another link to a story that does not say what Troll Boy claims it says.
It is to laugh. Again.
I predict Benchmarks dont matter and Apple didnt design it anyway so it doesnt matter from the Troll Boys.
Or - even better - This is off topic for this group. Possibly yet another link to a story that does not say what Troll Boy claims it says.
It is to laugh. Again.
It is to laugh, because different benchmarks show different results. You
need to understand the different benchmarks.
But don't despair, you are highly unlikely to see any lag at all on A16
or even A15 based devices, and by the time the A17 comes out Apple will likely catch up to, or pass, Qualcomm in system performance.
The iPhone 15 Pro is predicted to result in a "super-cycle" of upgrades because of USB-C, higher-resolution cameras, periscope telephoto lens,
and 8K video, all of which are already on the flagship Samsung Galaxy S22.
The Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 has some advantages over the A16, especially in
terms of photo and video capability, but also with a better 5G modem
(X70 versus X65). But the iPhone 15 is likely to use the same x70 modem that's inside the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2, and will also likely support 8K
video. 8K video was predicted for the iPhone 14 Pro devices but did not
make it.
If Apple is so good at chip design, why can't Apple design a 5G modem?
Those benchmark scores are bound to change when the processor is eventually released. But regardless of whether the Qualcomm chip doesn’t perform as well as the Apple chip, what matters is the total performance of the phone.
I am not qualified to say which is better altogether.
There may be some gamers that benefit from the higher GPU performance of
the Qualcomm chips, but that's an area where Qualcomm has had a
significant lead for a while.
Gamers typically choose Android devices
specifically designed for gaming, with thermal solutions that Apple
would never consider.
For example, the Nubia RedMagic 7 Pro has an
internal fan (as well as dedicated shoulder trigger buttons). Asus
offers a clip-on external fan on its ROG Phone 5 series. On non-gaming phones, the CPU is throttled if the temperature rises too much.
On 11/17/2022 3:00 PM, badgolferman wrote:
<snip>
Those benchmark scores are bound to change when the processor is
eventually released. But regardless of whether the Qualcomm chip
doesn’t perform as well as the Apple chip, what matters is the
total performance of the phone. I am not qualified to say which is
better altogether.
It depends how you define performance.
While the Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 significantly outperforms
Apple's A16 Bionic in every benchmark except single-core performance
(see
<https://beebom.com/snapdragon-8-gen-2-vs-apple-a16-bionic-benchmarks/
), one thing that is not measured is "performance per watt" orthermal performance. iPhones typically do much better in terms of
battery life even though they have lower-capacity batteries than
competing flagships.
The reality is that an end-user is unlikely to ever even notice the >difference in performance between flagship phones, despite the
difference in benchmark scores.
There may be some gamers that benefit from the higher GPU performance
of the Qualcomm chips, but that's an area where Qualcomm has had a >significant lead for a while. Gamers typically choose Android devices >specifically designed for gaming, with thermal solutions that Apple
would never consider. For example, the Nubia RedMagic 7 Pro has an
internal fan (as well as dedicated shoulder trigger buttons). Asus
offers a clip-on external fan on its ROG Phone 5 series. On
non-gaming phones, the CPU is throttled if the temperature rises too
much.
Why the heck would someone play those type of games on a phone?
Android phones also have access to more cloud gaming platforms,
including Google Stadia, Nvidia GeForce Now, and Xbox Cloud Gaming,
while the iPhone only has access to Xbox Cloud Gaming (I added this to
I don't think
that Apple has interest in producing a version of the
iPhone that has the features that gamers want since it would not sell in
high enough numbers.
They'd have to do a version of the Bionic that has
some of the features of the Qualcomm Snapdragon SOC, including a faster
GPU.
They'd have to use a more expensive, higher-refresh OLED screen.
They'd have to add some trigger buttons.
They'd need an enhanced thermal
solution since throttling the device based on temperature is not an acceptable thermal solution for gamers.
There may be some gamers that benefit from the higher GPU performance
of the Qualcomm chips, but that's an area where Qualcomm has had a >significant lead for a while. Gamers typically choose Android devices >specifically designed for gaming, with thermal solutions that Apple
would never consider. For example, the Nubia RedMagic 7 Pro has an
internal fan (as well as dedicated shoulder trigger buttons). Asus
offers a clip-on external fan on its ROG Phone 5 series. On
non-gaming phones, the CPU is throttled if the temperature rises too
much.
Why the heck would someone play those type of games on a phone?
no, since apple silicon runs cooler for similar performance.
no, since apple silicon runs cooler for similar performance.
*Why did Samsung _secretly_ throttle CPUs,*
iPhones typically do much better in terms of battery life
even though they have lower-capacity batteries than competing flagships.
Why the heck would someone play those type of games on a phone?
they definitely do on iphones.
If Apple is so good at chip design, why can't Apple design a 5G modem?
On 11/23/2022 4:07 PM, sms wrote:
iPhones typically do much better in terms of battery life even though
they have lower-capacity batteries than competing flagships.
This temporary advantage only lasts a short while because iphone
batteries always lose capacity much faster due to their appreciably diminutive spec.
A claim you have failed to prove, over and over again, instead choosing
to spew links to articles that don't prove what you claim.
On 11/24/2022 12:10 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
A claim you have failed to prove, over and over again, instead
choosing to spew links to articles that don't prove what you claim.
Since you eschew all science
where do you come up with your absurd claim
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