• AirDrop 10-minute limit for Everyone in iOS 16.2

    From NewsKrawler@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 8 04:03:00 2022
    https://9to5mac.com/2022/12/07/airdrop-limit-everyone-ios-16/
    iOS 16.2 expands AirDrop 10-minute limit for 'Everyone' from China to everywhere

    Historically, Apple has three different options for AirDrop.
    "Receiving Off" entirely disables the ability for someone to AirDrop you something.

    "Contacts Only" means that only people saved in your contacts could send
    you something with AirDrop.

    "Everyone" lets anyone nearby send you a file, photo, or other content via AirDrop. This means that anyone around you, regardless of whether or not
    you knew them, would see your iPhone as a target for AirDrop.

    Starting with iOS 16.2 RC today, new 10-minutes at a time restrictions on
    the "Everyone" option for AirDrop is now in place globally.

    What this means is that you can no longer have AirDrop enabled permanently
    for "Everyone." Instead, the option can only be enabled for 10 minutes at a time.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to NewsKrawler on Fri Dec 9 02:54:51 2022
    I'm OK with this decision. Better security.

    NewsKrawler <newskrawl@krawl.org> wrote:
    https://9to5mac.com/2022/12/07/airdrop-limit-everyone-ios-16/
    iOS 16.2 expands AirDrop 10-minute limit for 'Everyone' from China to everywhere

    Historically, Apple has three different options for AirDrop.
    "Receiving Off" entirely disables the ability for someone to AirDrop you something.

    "Contacts Only" means that only people saved in your contacts could send
    you something with AirDrop.

    "Everyone" lets anyone nearby send you a file, photo, or other content via AirDrop. This means that anyone around you, regardless of whether or not
    you knew them, would see your iPhone as a target for AirDrop.

    Starting with iOS 16.2 RC today, new 10-minutes at a time restrictions on
    the "Everyone" option for AirDrop is now in place globally.

    What this means is that you can no longer have AirDrop enabled permanently for "Everyone." Instead, the option can only be enabled for 10 minutes at a time.

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  • From sms@21:1/5 to Ant on Thu Dec 8 19:22:03 2022
    On 12/8/2022 6:54 PM, Ant wrote:
    I'm OK with this decision. Better security.

    Would be nice to have an option to turn off that 10 minute limit for say
    12 hours. I'm thinking of long rides on charter buses, something that's
    pretty common for high school trips where the students like exchanging
    photos, etc..

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to sms on Fri Dec 9 05:49:06 2022
    sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
    On 12/8/2022 6:54 PM, Ant wrote:
    I'm OK with this decision. Better security.

    Would be nice to have an option to turn off that 10 minute limit for say
    12 hours. I'm thinking of long rides on charter buses, something that's pretty common for high school trips where the students like exchanging photos, etc..

    Yeah. Customizable for the user.
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    etc. Somewhat slammy Thursday after sleeping 7 hrs.
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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Ant on Fri Dec 9 07:37:01 2022
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
    On 12/8/2022 6:54 PM, Ant wrote:
    I'm OK with this decision. Better security.

    Would be nice to have an option to turn off that 10 minute limit for say
    12 hours. I'm thinking of long rides on charter buses, something that's
    pretty common for high school trips where the students like exchanging
    photos, etc..

    Yeah. Customizable for the user.

    Doesn't help the chinese government.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to scharf.steven@geemail.com on Fri Dec 9 07:11:01 2022
    In article <tmu9kt$12unf$1@dont-email.me>, sms
    <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

    Would be nice to have an option to turn off that 10 minute limit for say
    12 hours. I'm thinking of long rides on charter buses, something that's pretty common for high school trips where the students like exchanging photos, etc..

    fabricated scenario. they do that in other ways, such as imessage,
    instagram, etc.

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  • From Bob Campbell@21:1/5 to NewsKrawler on Fri Dec 9 14:25:57 2022
    NewsKrawler <newskrawl@krawl.org> wrote:
    https://9to5mac.com/2022/12/07/airdrop-limit-everyone-ios-16/
    iOS 16.2 expands AirDrop 10-minute limit for 'Everyone' from China to everywhere

    Historically, Apple has three different options for AirDrop.
    "Receiving Off" entirely disables the ability for someone to AirDrop you something.

    "Contacts Only" means that only people saved in your contacts could send
    you something with AirDrop.

    "Everyone" lets anyone nearby send you a file, photo, or other content via AirDrop. This means that anyone around you, regardless of whether or not
    you knew them, would see your iPhone as a target for AirDrop.

    Starting with iOS 16.2 RC today, new 10-minutes at a time restrictions on
    the "Everyone" option for AirDrop is now in place globally.

    What this means is that you can no longer have AirDrop enabled permanently for "Everyone." Instead, the option can only be enabled for 10 minutes at a time.

    Sounds OK to me. Every time I have used it, I turn it on, send/receive something, then turn it back off.

    Like Bluetooth, there is no reason to have it on 24/7. Unless I am home, there is no reason to have Wi-Fi on either.

    BTW, nice to see you posting good news.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to Campbell on Fri Dec 9 10:04:08 2022
    In article <c8CdnaWv5KPo2A7-nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@supernews.com>, Bob
    Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:


    Like Bluetooth, there is no reason to have it on 24/7. Unless I am home, there is no reason to have Wi-Fi on either.

    there are many reasons to keep both bluetooth and wifi on, including
    airplay, homekit, iot devices, syncing with the apple watch, better
    accurate location and more. the impact to battery life is almost none.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 9 10:31:17 2022
    In article <tmvjq5$1rlcd$1@solani.org>, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch>
    wrote:

    Like Bluetooth, there is no reason to have it on 24/7. Unless I am home, >> there is no reason to have Wi-Fi on either.

    there are many reasons to keep both bluetooth and wifi on, including airplay, homekit, iot devices, syncing with the apple watch, better accurate location and more. the impact to battery life is almost none.

    I told you a couple of times that this is total nonsense.

    you're still wrong.

    Uses energy
    and increases the area of attack.

    almost none, for both.

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 9 16:21:41 2022
    Am 09.12.22 um 16:04 schrieb nospam:
    In article <c8CdnaWv5KPo2A7-nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@supernews.com>, Bob
    Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:


    Like Bluetooth, there is no reason to have it on 24/7. Unless I am home, >> there is no reason to have Wi-Fi on either.

    there are many reasons to keep both bluetooth and wifi on, including
    airplay, homekit, iot devices, syncing with the apple watch, better
    accurate location and more. the impact to battery life is almost none.

    I told you a couple of times that this is total nonsense. Uses energy
    and increases the area of attack.

    --
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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 9 16:51:25 2022
    Am 09.12.22 um 16:31 schrieb nospam:
    In article <tmvjq5$1rlcd$1@solani.org>, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch>
    wrote:

    Like Bluetooth, there is no reason to have it on 24/7. Unless I am home, >>>> there is no reason to have Wi-Fi on either.

    there are many reasons to keep both bluetooth and wifi on, including
    airplay, homekit, iot devices, syncing with the apple watch, better
    accurate location and more. the impact to battery life is almost none.

    I told you a couple of times that this is total nonsense.

    you're still wrong.

    Uses energy
    and increases the area of attack.

    almost none, for both.

    Wrong.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Chris on Fri Dec 9 16:16:24 2022
    Chris wrote:

    I'm OK with this decision. Better security.

    Would be nice to have an option to turn off that 10 minute limit for say >>> 12 hours. I'm thinking of long rides on charter buses, something that's
    pretty common for high school trips where the students like exchanging
    photos, etc..

    Yeah. Customizable for the user.

    Doesn't help the chinese government.

    Steve, Ant, and Chris have a good point where I assume that Apple did this _only_ for China, but then someone brilliant in Marketing realized they
    could obfuscate that reality by forcing everyone in the world into the same non-settable switch.

    As Carlos opined, Apple making it exist for the whole world and also Apple making it non settable for the whole world is a clear surrender to China.

    Apple surrendered to China at our expense.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Fri Dec 9 16:18:26 2022
    On 2022-12-09, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 09.12.22 um 16:04 schrieb nospam:
    In article <c8CdnaWv5KPo2A7-nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@supernews.com>, Bob
    Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:

    Like Bluetooth, there is no reason to have it on 24/7. Unless I am
    home, there is no reason to have Wi-Fi on either.

    there are many reasons to keep both bluetooth and wifi on, including
    airplay, homekit, iot devices, syncing with the apple watch, better
    accurate location and more. the impact to battery life is almost
    none.

    I told you a couple of times that this is total nonsense. Uses energy
    and increases the area of attack.

    You're full of shit. Go ahead and show us verified instances of
    successful Bluetooth attacks against up-to-date iPhones in the wild
    outside of a lab, "smart" guy. Not holding our breaths, because we
    already know you have nothing.

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  • From sms@21:1/5 to Ant on Fri Dec 9 16:06:47 2022
    On 12/8/2022 9:49 PM, Ant wrote:
    sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
    On 12/8/2022 6:54 PM, Ant wrote:
    I'm OK with this decision. Better security.

    Would be nice to have an option to turn off that 10 minute limit for say
    12 hours. I'm thinking of long rides on charter buses, something that's
    pretty common for high school trips where the students like exchanging
    photos, etc..

    Yeah. Customizable for the user.

    Hopefully we'll see that in a future iOS version.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to sms on Sat Dec 10 01:04:09 2022
    sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
    On 12/8/2022 9:49 PM, Ant wrote:
    sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
    On 12/8/2022 6:54 PM, Ant wrote:
    I'm OK with this decision. Better security.

    Would be nice to have an option to turn off that 10 minute limit for say >> 12 hours. I'm thinking of long rides on charter buses, something that's
    pretty common for high school trips where the students like exchanging
    photos, etc..

    Yeah. Customizable for the user.

    Hopefully we'll see that in a future iOS version.

    Let's leave a feedback in https://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone/ so
    Apple can add it to v16.3 or later.

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    15:5,8. Boo 2 my cut dry lips, dropped iPhone & its finger holder, window blind's broken string, spreading biological vir(uses/i), cold temperatures, etc. Slept over 7 hrs. 2 days in a row so far.
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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to ant@zimage.comANT on Fri Dec 9 20:37:38 2022
    In article <xWadncQCHrqURg7-nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    Would be nice to have an option to turn off that 10 minute limit for say >> 12 hours. I'm thinking of long rides on charter buses, something that's >> pretty common for high school trips where the students like exchanging >> photos, etc..

    Yeah. Customizable for the user.

    Hopefully we'll see that in a future iOS version.

    Let's leave a feedback in https://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone/ so
    Apple can add it to v16.3 or later.

    don't hold your breath on that. it's not gonna happen.

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Bob Campbell on Sat Dec 10 10:50:24 2022
    Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:
    NewsKrawler <newskrawl@krawl.org> wrote:
    https://9to5mac.com/2022/12/07/airdrop-limit-everyone-ios-16/
    iOS 16.2 expands AirDrop 10-minute limit for 'Everyone' from China to
    everywhere

    Historically, Apple has three different options for AirDrop.
    "Receiving Off" entirely disables the ability for someone to AirDrop you
    something.

    "Contacts Only" means that only people saved in your contacts could send
    you something with AirDrop.

    "Everyone" lets anyone nearby send you a file, photo, or other content via >> AirDrop. This means that anyone around you, regardless of whether or not
    you knew them, would see your iPhone as a target for AirDrop.

    Starting with iOS 16.2 RC today, new 10-minutes at a time restrictions on
    the "Everyone" option for AirDrop is now in place globally.

    What this means is that you can no longer have AirDrop enabled permanently >> for "Everyone." Instead, the option can only be enabled for 10 minutes at a >> time.

    Sounds OK to me. Every time I have used it, I turn it on, send/receive something, then turn it back off.

    Like Bluetooth, there is no reason to have it on 24/7. Unless I am home, there is no reason to have Wi-Fi on either.

    BTW, nice to see you posting good news.

    Not really good news. It's a mechanism that was designed to help the
    Chinese government suppress descent. AirDrop cannot be monitored like wifi
    or 4G so was used by protestors to rapidly share information.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Chris on Sat Dec 10 15:46:06 2022
    On 2022-12-10, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    It's a mechanism that was designed to help the Chinese government
    suppress descent.

    It's "dissent", smart guy. And that false claim has never been backed up
    with verifiable evidence.

    AirDrop cannot be monitored

    Wrong. Actually, a built-in feature of AirDrop is the ability to see all
    nearby devices with AirDrop enabled, which could certainly be used by
    the Chinese government to track people in a local area. And that flies
    in the face of the above claim that Apple disabled it to _help_ the
    Chinese government.

    But I don't expect gullible idiot trolls to understand such nuance. You
    dip shits will take every chance you can get to spread your "Apple: BAD" propaganda you've been spoon fed, like the little gullible fools you are.

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    JR

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  • From Bob Campbell@21:1/5 to Chris on Sat Dec 10 19:14:32 2022
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Not really good news. It's a mechanism that was designed to help the
    Chinese government suppress descent. AirDrop cannot be monitored like wifi
    or 4G so was used by protestors to rapidly share information.


    Have a link for that?

    Still does not matter to me. I don’t do too much “descending ” these days.

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Bob Campbell on Sat Dec 10 20:56:27 2022
    Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Not really good news. It's a mechanism that was designed to help the
    Chinese government suppress descent. AirDrop cannot be monitored like wifi >> or 4G so was used by protestors to rapidly share information.


    Have a link for that?

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/30/apple-limited-a-crucial-airdrop-function-in-china-just-weeks-before-protests.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/11/apple-limits-iphone-filesharing-feature-used-by-protesters-in-china

    Still does not matter to me. I don’t do too much “descending ” these days.

    "dissent" obviously, but yes it's a benign feature for most of us. Leaves a sour taste in the mouth though.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to WolfFan on Sat Dec 10 16:25:56 2022
    WolfFan wrote:
    On Dec 10, 2022, Andy Burnelli wrote
    (in article <tn2aud$11cg$1@gioia.aioe.org>):

    Jolly Roger wrote:

    He doesn't care about words. Like Trump and his lame-brain supporters,
    words are just weapons of hate to sling around without care of their
    actual meanings. Arlen and his little trollboi gang don't care about
    factual and honest discourse. They are happy to make bullshit claims and >>> bad faith arguments in order to try to disrupt what would otherwise be
    peaceful and useful newsgroups. They are here for one purpose:
    disruption.

    But with all of his words, Arlen still can't produce one actual instance >>> of a successful Bluetooth attack against up-to-date iPhones in the wild
    outside of a lab. Like the rest of them, his troll is a *failure*.

    Hi Jolly Roger,

    The observation you hate the facts doesn't change that the facts are facts. >>
    I don't see anything from the likes of Bob Campbell or Alan Baker or Snit, >> so all I can see is you denying all facts about Apple that you happen to
    hate, which, let's be clear, is a _lot_ of facts that you seem to hate.

    FACT: *No smartphone OS has more zero-day holes than does Apple's iOS!*

    The fact is well known iOS has about a zero-day hole every month for years >> on end, so for you to deny that fact simply means that you hate that fact. >>
    It's also a fact that Apple has _never_ found any iOS zero-day holes, which >> is another fact you happen to hate simply because that fact _is_ a fact.

    The only metric you can possibly argue is if you find that Android has as
    many or more zero-day holes in the same time period as iOS clearly has had. >>
    And you can't.
    Hence, given you've denied all facts that you hate about Apple, it's my
    assertion (based on that observation), that you hate this proven fact:

    *No smartphone operating system has more zero-day holes than does iOS*

    That's just a fact.
    That's just a fact you hate.
    That's just a fact you hate about Apple.

    The observation you hate the facts doesn't change that the facts are facts.

    Interesting. You have failed to produce even one example of the event requested. I suspect that you cannot. I further suspect that most/all of the ‘facts’ that you’re on about cannot be supported by actual events and are, therefore, NOT facts, except in your diseased mind.

    To refute this is simple: produce an example as requested by JR. Just one, fulfilling his stated requirements. I don’t think that you can. I know that you have not, so far, done this.


    He has, however, achieved his goal. This is apparent from your
    response. Andy has been around a long time, and very successful.

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  • From sms@21:1/5 to Chris on Sat Dec 10 15:21:23 2022
    On 12/10/2022 2:50 AM, Chris wrote:

    <snip>

    Not really good news. It's a mechanism that was designed to help the
    Chinese government suppress descent. AirDrop cannot be monitored like wifi
    or 4G so was used by protestors to rapidly share information.

    Hunger Strike in front of Apple Visitor Center <https://images.axios.com/UA2pmUjbx42Ux1Un5K407A8uYNA=/0x0:1920x1080/1920x1080/2022/12/06/1670337156697.jpg>

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Mayayana on Sat Dec 10 23:39:54 2022
    Mayayana wrote:

    I always assume my cellphone is hackable by everyone but
    me and only use it occasionally for phone calls. The NYTimes
    had an in-depth article yesterday about Israeli-made
    malware used by governments to commandeer your cellphone
    without needing any action on your part.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/08/us/politics/spyware-nso-pegasus-paragon.html

    We had a similar NSO discussion on the iOS newsgroup, where, to the
    knowledge of everyone on that group, the Pegasus spyware mostly infects the
    iOS kernel (although it "can" infect other components of both iOS &
    Android).

    To date, Pegasus has _never_ infected the Android kernel.
    Pegasus, to day, has only infected (multiple times!) the iOS kernel.

    I don't know why this is the case though, so if someone out there knows
    more about _why_ the iOS kernel is so vulnerable compared to the Android kernel, please let the rest of us know why.

    BTW, despite Apple's (brilliant) advertising to the contrary, this is yet another of many situations where iOS is far more vulnerable to hacking than Android (the other situation being iOS consistently has far more zero-day
    holes than Android - none of which are ever caught by Apple engineers - so
    they can't be fixed until someone is kind enough to tell Apple of their one-a-month zero-day holes in iOS).
    --
    Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
    which, in this case, is to point out the many Apple lies about security.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Chris on Sun Dec 11 02:29:54 2022
    On 2022-12-10, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Not really good news. It's a mechanism that was designed to help the
    Chinese government suppress descent. AirDrop cannot be monitored
    like wifi or 4G so was used by protestors to rapidly share
    information.


    Have a link for that?

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/30/apple-limited-a-crucial-airdrop-function-in-china-just-weeks-before-protests.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/11/apple-limits-iphone-filesharing-feature-used-by-protesters-in-china

    BZZZT. Neither of those articles prove your claim that Apple's supposed motivation was "to help the Chinese government". Yet again, you're
    stating your opinion as fact, when those are very clearly two different
    things. Gullible fools have a real hard time differentiating between
    them, but not the rest of us. Stay in school.

    Leaves a sour taste in the mouth though.

    Nah. That sour taste is from the dick "Apple:BAD" bullshit you're
    spewing.

    --
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    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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  • From gtr@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Dec 10 19:54:58 2022
    On 2022-12-10 18:29:54 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/30/apple-limited-a-crucial-airdrop-function-in-china-just-weeks-before-protests.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/11/apple-limits-iphone-filesharing-feature-used-by-protesters-in-china

    BZZZT. Neither of those articles prove your claim that Apple's supposed motivation was "to help the Chinese government". Yet again, you're
    stating your opinion as fact, when those are very clearly two different things. Gullible fools have a real hard time differentiating between
    them, but not the rest of us. Stay in school.

    Try reading for comprehension next time.
    The implication was clear in both articles.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to gtr on Sun Dec 11 05:44:18 2022
    On 2022-12-11, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
    On 2022-12-10 18:29:54 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

    BZZZT. Neither of those articles prove your claim that Apple's
    supposed motivation was "to help the Chinese government". Yet again,
    you're stating your opinion as fact, when those are very clearly two
    different things. Gullible fools have a real hard time
    differentiating between them, but not the rest of us. Stay in school.

    Try reading for comprehension next time. The implication was clear in
    both articles.

    Try pulling your head out of your ass sometime. Again, implying something
    does not magically make it true. Gullible fools have a *really* hard
    time differentiating between fact and opinion (implication). A key part
    of AirDrop is the ability to see a list all devices in the local
    vicinity that are set to receive messages from everyone, which naturally
    means Chinese authorities with an iPhone could also see that list. There
    is no evidence that Apple rolled out this change in order "to help the
    Chinese government" (again, implications and opinions are not evidence).
    The article even states that the Chinese people were also using other
    means to spread messages including painting graffiti, hanging posters,
    and so on. So AirDrop wasn't the only method being used to disseminate
    such information.

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sun Dec 11 11:34:55 2022
    On 11/12/2022 02:29, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2022-12-10, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Not really good news. It's a mechanism that was designed to help the
    Chinese government suppress descent. AirDrop cannot be monitored
    like wifi or 4G so was used by protestors to rapidly share
    information.


    Have a link for that?

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/30/apple-limited-a-crucial-airdrop-function-in-china-just-weeks-before-protests.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/11/apple-limits-iphone-filesharing-feature-used-by-protesters-in-china

    BZZZT. Neither of those articles prove your claim that Apple's supposed motivation was "to help the Chinese government".

    No one is going to be able to prove anything when dealing with famously secretive organisations like the Chinese Communist Part and Apple.

    So if the above is not enough for you, then fair enough. Any reasonable
    person can see the link, however.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Chris on Sun Dec 11 14:34:50 2022
    On 2022-12-11, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 11/12/2022 02:29, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2022-12-10, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    Not really good news. It's a mechanism that was designed to help
    the Chinese government suppress descent. AirDrop cannot be
    monitored like wifi or 4G so was used by protestors to rapidly
    share information.

    Have a link for that?


    BZZZT. Neither of those articles prove your claim that Apple's
    supposed motivation was "to help the Chinese government".

    No one is going to be able to prove anything

    It's your little trollboi gang who can't prove your bullshit
    accusations. You don't speak for the rest of us.

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  • From cris@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sun Dec 11 11:48:48 2022
    On 11/12/2022 05:44, Jolly Roger wrote:

    There
    is no evidence that Apple rolled out this change in order "to help the Chinese government" (again, implications and opinions are not evidence).

    Can you point to any news reports which imply what you said you believe
    which directly contradicts what all those previous news articles inferred?

    Or did you just make it all up without any backing evidence whatsoever?

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to cris on Sun Dec 11 20:52:46 2022
    On 2022-12-11, cris <cris@removespam.me.com> wrote:
    On 11/12/2022 05:44, Jolly Roger wrote:

    There is no evidence that Apple rolled out this change in order "to
    help the Chinese government" (again, implications and opinions are
    not evidence).

    Can you point to any news reports which imply what you said

    You trollbois are the ones making this claim, and you have the burden of
    proof, yet none of you have provided proof of the claim.

    which directly contradicts what all those previous news articles
    inferred?

    Get this through your incredibly thick heads: Inference isn't evidence.
    Like Trump's blind followers, you believe opinions that align with your narrative and follow them without question. You gullible fools have a
    *really* hard time distinguishing between fact and opinion. It'd be
    funny if it wasn't so fucking sad. Try thinking for yourself.

    Or did you just make it all up without any backing evidence
    whatsoever?

    Projection, as usual. Priceless.

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