Hi.
I don't remember if I've tried Airdrop since I got my new MacBook but it isn't working now. All the right settings are on the MacBook and the iPhone I even tried changing to "everyone" instead of "contacts." When I try to airdrop either direction the
iPhone shows a picture of my Macbook and the MacBook shows a picture of my iPhone and they both say "waiting" but I never get an AirDrop notice on the device I want to send to.

Oh if it matters the iPhone has IOS 15.7.1 and the Mac has 12.6.1.

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In article <a7de0797-2add-4652-ab41-b34716ad29f2n@googlegroups.com>,
Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi.
I don't remember if I've tried Airdrop since I got my new MacBook but it isn't working now. All the right settings are on the MacBook and the iPhone I even tried changing to "everyone" instead of "contacts." When I try to airdrop either direction the iPhone shows a picture of my Macbook and the MacBook shows a picture of my iPhone and they both say "waiting" but I never get an AirDrop notice on the device I want to send to.

is bluetooth enabled on both?
are they both signed into icloud?

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On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 9:58:15 AM UTC-8, nospam wrote:

In article <a7de0797-2add-4652...@googlegroups.com>,
Connor Shannon <cshann...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi.
I don't remember if I've tried Airdrop since I got my new MacBook but it isn't working now. All the right settings are on the MacBook and the iPhone I
even tried changing to "everyone" instead of "contacts." When I try to airdrop either direction the iPhone shows a picture of my Macbook and the MacBook shows a picture of my iPhone and they both say "waiting" but I never
get an AirDrop notice on the device I want to send to.

is bluetooth enabled on both?
are they both signed into icloud?

Thank you for responding. Yes Bluetooth was on both items. I didn't know about iCloud the iPhone is always signed in and I signed in on the Mac. Then I went into Bluetooth settings and when the other device appeared I tapped it. The iPhone says:

Pairing Unsuccessful
MacBook Air is not supported

The Macbook tried to send a passcode to the iPhone but it never arrived.
These both have new OSs what's the problem??

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On 12/15/2022 9:04 AM, Connor Shannon wrote:

Hi.
I don't remember if I've tried Airdrop since I got my new MacBook but it isn't working now. All the right settings are on the MacBook and the iPhone I even tried changing to "everyone" instead of "contacts." When I try to airdrop either direction the

iPhone shows a picture of my Macbook and the MacBook shows a picture of my iPhone and they both say "waiting" but I never get an AirDrop notice on the device I want to send to.

Oh if it matters the iPhone has IOS 15.7.1 and the Mac has 12.6.1.

This usually occurs when the two devices can see each other on Bluetooth
but are not on the same Wi-Fi network, or if either device is connected
via a VPN, or there is a firewall active on the Mac. Also be certain
that personal hotspot is turned off on the iPhone.

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On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 11:17:31 AM UTC-8, sms wrote:

On 12/15/2022 9:04 AM, Connor Shannon wrote:

Hi.
I don't remember if I've tried Airdrop since I got my new MacBook but it isn't working now. All the right settings are on the MacBook and the iPhone I even tried changing to "everyone" instead of "contacts." When I try to airdrop either direction the

iPhone shows a picture of my Macbook and the MacBook shows a picture of my iPhone and they both say "waiting" but I never get an AirDrop notice on the device I want to send to.

Oh if it matters the iPhone has IOS 15.7.1 and the Mac has 12.6.1.

This usually occurs when the two devices can see each other on Bluetooth
but are not on the same Wi-Fi network, or if either device is connected
via a VPN, or there is a firewall active on the Mac. Also be certain
that personal hotspot is turned off on the iPhone.

They are on the same WiFi but I didn't know about personal hotspot. I turned that off and it worked right away! How come??

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In article <tnfrs9$3551r$2@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

This usually occurs when the two devices can see each other on Bluetooth
but are not on the same Wi-Fi network, or if either device is connected
via a VPN, or there is a firewall active on the Mac. Also be certain
that personal hotspot is turned off on the iPhone.

stop pretending to know what you're talking about and misleading people.

airdrop configures wifi between two devices, which means it does not
require any existing wifi network whatsoever. that's the whole point.

vpn and firewall are irrelevant. personal hotspot can sometimes
interact with it because the phone creates a wifi network for other
devices. clearly a lucky guess.

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In article <7ed17b54-486d-4d9b-8072-a84a43cfbab8n@googlegroups.com>,
Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@gmail.com> wrote:

They are on the same WiFi but I didn't know about personal hotspot. I turned that off and it worked right away! How come??

persona hotspot creates a wifi network for a mac (or other device),
which is apparently overriding airdrop.

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On 12/15/2022 11:22 AM, Connor Shannon wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 11:17:31 AM UTC-8, sms wrote:

On 12/15/2022 9:04 AM, Connor Shannon wrote:

Hi.
I don't remember if I've tried Airdrop since I got my new MacBook but it isn't working now. All the right settings are on the MacBook and the iPhone I even tried changing to "everyone" instead of "contacts." When I try to airdrop either direction the

iPhone shows a picture of my Macbook and the MacBook shows a picture of my iPhone and they both say "waiting" but I never get an AirDrop notice on the device I want to send to.

Oh if it matters the iPhone has IOS 15.7.1 and the Mac has 12.6.1.

This usually occurs when the two devices can see each other on Bluetooth
but are not on the same Wi-Fi network, or if either device is connected
via a VPN, or there is a firewall active on the Mac. Also be certain
that personal hotspot is turned off on the iPhone.

They are on the same WiFi but I didn't know about personal hotspot. I turned that off and it worked right away! How come??

AirDrop uses Bluetooth to create a peer-to-peer Wi-Fi network between
the Mac and the iPhone or iPad. When you have personal hotspot turned
on, on the iPhone or an iPad with cellular modem then Airdrop can't use
the Wi-Fi on the iPhone.

It would be nice if there were a pop-up that explains this when you try
to use Airdrop when personal hotspot is turned on. The issue you ran
into is not uncommon, but since few users ever use personal hotspot, and
even fewer have it on when they activate Airdrop, it's not that common
either.

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In article <tng9p0$3685u$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 11:17:31 AM UTC-8, sms wrote:

This usually occurs when the two devices can see each other on Bluetooth >> but are not on the same Wi-Fi network, or if either device is connected
via a VPN, or there is a firewall active on the Mac. Also be certain
that personal hotspot is turned off on the iPhone.

They are on the same WiFi but I didn't know about personal hotspot. I turned that off and it worked right away! How come??

AirDrop uses Bluetooth to create a peer-to-peer Wi-Fi network between
the Mac and the iPhone or iPad.

you're backpedaling. you originally claimed both devices must be on the
same wifi network, without a vpn or firewall.

When you have personal hotspot turned
on, on the iPhone or an iPad with cellular modem then Airdrop can't use
the Wi-Fi on the iPhone.

personal hotspot *can* be a problem, however, that's not always the
case.

stop pretending to know what you're talking about. it's clear that you
do not.

It would be nice if there were a pop-up that explains this when you try
to use Airdrop when personal hotspot is turned on. The issue you ran
into is not uncommon, but since few users ever use personal hotspot, and
even fewer have it on when they activate Airdrop, it's not that common either.

you're contradicting yourself again. first you say the issue is not
uncommon, then you say it's not common. both cannot be true.

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On 12/15/2022 3:14 PM, sms wrote:

<snip>

AirDrop uses Bluetooth to create a peer-to-peer Wi-Fi network between
the Mac and the iPhone or iPad. When you have personal hotspot turned
on, on the iPhone or an iPad with cellular modem then Airdrop can't use
the Wi-Fi on the iPhone.

It would be nice if there were a pop-up that explains this when you try
to use Airdrop when personal hotspot is turned on. The issue you ran
into is not uncommon, but since few users ever use personal hotspot, and
even fewer have it on when they activate Airdrop, it's not that common either.

Actually, thinking more about it, the advice about the iPhone and the
Mac needing to be connected to the same Wi-Fi network doesn't make sense because Airdrop creates a peer to peer Wi-Fi network between the iPhone
and the Mac (or between multiple iPhones and/or multiple Macs.

There is a non-standard way to use Airdrop which _does_ require that
devices be on the same network (whether wired or wireless), but not many
users use, or are even aware of, that method.

There are still issues when using a VPN, though there are apparently
ways to configure the firewall so Airdrop will still work.

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In article <k01vdeFggvoU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

On 2022-12-16, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

There is a non-standard way to use Airdrop which _does_ require that devices be on the same network (whether wired or wireless), but not
many users use, or are even aware of, that method.

Explain how we can use this so-called "non-standard way to use AirDrop", please.

it's actually quite hilarious. he thinks he knows all about airdrop,
based on search results he doesn't understand.

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On 2022-12-16, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

There is a non-standard way to use Airdrop which _does_ require that
devices be on the same network (whether wired or wireless), but not
many users use, or are even aware of, that method.

Explain how we can use this so-called "non-standard way to use AirDrop", please.

--
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JR

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In article <tngf81$36lmg$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

Actually, thinking more about it, the advice about the iPhone and the
Mac needing to be connected to the same Wi-Fi network doesn't make sense because Airdrop creates a peer to peer Wi-Fi network between the iPhone
and the Mac (or between multiple iPhones and/or multiple Macs.

that's a whole lotta words to admit you were wrong, although you still
screwed it up.

There is a non-standard way to use Airdrop which _does_ require that
devices be on the same network (whether wired or wireless), but not many users use, or are even aware of, that method.

they're not aware of it because it's not an option.

notably absent are details about this 'non-standard way to use airdrop'.

was that because you realized just how deep of a hole in which you've
found yourself?

There are still issues when using a VPN, though there are apparently
ways to configure the firewall so Airdrop will still work.

also wrong.

vpns are not an issue, however, some vpn *apps* can cause a problem.
that's an issue with the app itself, not that a vpn is in use.

once again, you demonstrate your sheer lack of knowledge of how things
work.

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On 12/15/2022 9:04 AM, Connor Shannon wrote:

Hi.
I don't remember if I've tried Airdrop since I got my new MacBook but it isn't working now. All the right settings are on the MacBook and the iPhone I even tried changing to "everyone" instead of "contacts." When I try to airdrop either direction the

iPhone shows a picture of my Macbook and the MacBook shows a picture of my iPhone and they both say "waiting" but I never get an AirDrop notice on the device I want to send to.

Oh if it matters the iPhone has IOS 15.7.1 and the Mac has 12.6.1.

Glad I was able to solve your problem. It's not something many people
run into. I keep my iPhone hotspot on all the time so I knew about this
issue.

Incidentally, with AirDroid, to go between an iPhone or Android phone
computer (Windows or Mac or Linux) you do not need to turn on personal
hotspot, depending on how you connect.

With AirDroid:
1. Whether on iOS/iPadOS or Android, you can transfer files over an
AdHoc Wi-Fi network (using personal hotspot), or you can log both
devices into the same Wi-Fi network.
2. AirDroid can be used on iPhones, iPads, Android devices, OS-X
devices, and Windows devices.

The drawback, of course, is that AirDroid is not built into the
operating system, you must install the AirDroid App. Technically, since AirDroid is available for iOS, this is a feature that iOS and iPadOS
users already have access to, but few know about.

Unfortunately, you don’t get all the features of AirDroid on iOS or
iPadOS devices. As the AirDroid site states: “Due to the limitation of
Apple, the AirDroid Personal iOS version doesn't have as many features
(e.g., Remote Control, SMS, Notification) as the AirDroid Personal
Android version.”

But there are still some major reasons to use AirDroid as their web site explains: "Unlike Android, third-party apps are sandboxed on iOS
devices. You can't access files of apps directly. Except for the photos,
you can't share data between apps. Therefore, Apple released the Files
app, which can check some files saved on your iPhone. But you still
can't share, move and manage those files and data on iPhone. You can use
macOS Finder and Windows File Explorer to access your iPhone with a USB
cable. Because of the system limitation, you can only access photos in
the DCIM folder on Windows. You need to install iTunes to access the
files and other photos on your phone. That's not an easy thing.
AirDroid can easily solve this troublesome! With AirDroid, you can
access files on iPhone on Windows, Mac, Linux, and even Chromebook.
What's more, you don't need a USB cable and iTunes."

I included this as 204a on page 98 of the document <https://tinyurl.com/iOS-Android-Features>.

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In article <tnivfj$3feji$2@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

But there are still some major reasons to use AirDroid as their web site explains: "Unlike Android, third-party apps are sandboxed on iOS
devices.

sandboxing is a good thing, which is why it's part of android and other platforms.

<https://source.android.com/docs/security/app-sandbox>
Android uses the UID to set up a kernel-level Application Sandbox.
The kernel enforces security between apps and the system at the
process level through standard Linux facilities such as user and
group IDs that are assigned to apps. By default, apps can't interact
with each other and have limited access to the OS. If app A tries to
do something malicious, such as read application B's data or dial the
phone without permission, it's prevented from doing so because it
doesn't have the appropriate default user privileges. The sandbox is
simple, auditable, and based on decades-old UNIX-style user
separation of processes and file permissions.
...
Android relies on a number of protections to enforce the application
sandbox. These enforcements have been introduced over time and
have significantly strengthened the original UID-based discretionary
access control (DAC) sandbox. Previous Android releases included the
following protections:

your knowledge of android is also lacking. imagine that.

You can't access files of apps directly. Except for the photos,
you can't share data between apps.

false.

i don't doubt that *you* personally are unable to do so (after all, you
have problems unlocking your phone in the dark), however, those who
actually own and use ios devices certainly can.

Therefore, Apple released the Files
app, which can check some files saved on your iPhone. But you still
can't share, move and manage those files and data on iPhone.

false, and you're also contradicting yourself.

You can use
macOS Finder and Windows File Explorer to access your iPhone with a USB cable.

not in the way you're claiming.

Because of the system limitation, you can only access photos in
the DCIM folder on Windows. You need to install iTunes to access the
files and other photos on your phone.

false. itunes certainly makes things easier, however, it's not required.

That's not an easy thing.

yes it is. installing itunes is extremely easy. simply download the
installer and run it.

if you can't figure out how to install a windows app, then it's no
surprise you have difficulties sharing content.

AirDroid can easily solve this troublesome! With AirDroid, you can
access files on iPhone on Windows, Mac, Linux, and even Chromebook.
What's more, you don't need a USB cable and iTunes."

there is no need for airdroid (or any other app) to access files on
other platforms while using an ios device, nor is a usb cable needed.

you really have no clue about this stuff.

I included this as 204a on page 98 of the document

yet another thing you do not understand and get wrong.

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sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

Therefore, Apple released the Files
app, which can check some files saved on your iPhone. But you still
can't share, move and manage those files and data on iPhone. You can use macOS Finder and Windows File Explorer to access your iPhone with a USB cable. Because of the system limitation, you can only access photos in
the DCIM folder on Windows. You need to install iTunes to access the
files and other photos on your phone. That's not an easy thing.
AirDroid can easily solve this troublesome! With AirDroid, you can
access files on iPhone on Windows, Mac, Linux, and even Chromebook.
What's more, you don't need a USB cable and iTunes."

What IS that smell here?

Oh yes, its the giant load of horse shit that the Apple Troll Boy posted.

The Files app can connect to any computer. Directly. Over Wi-Fi. You
can drag and drop files in both directions. You don’t need a USB cable or iTunes.

I didn’t know this until maybe a year ago. I learned from a post from nospam. You know, the guy who you claim knows nothing about iOS.

BTW, iTunes is easy to install.

You REALLY should get an iPad/iPhone and see how this stuff works.

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